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13100046 No.13100046 [Reply] [Original]

Is this shit Chinese state propaganda or are their women really this fucking skilled?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKJIYsnNQy4

>> No.13100053

Is OP a retard or just an underage troll? Aha wait, there's no difference between the 2.

>> No.13100055

Yes to both. It is propaganda that makes use of women who are really that skilled and hopes to inspire other women to emulate them.

>> No.13100056

>>13100046
Everything from China is state propaganda my dude

>> No.13100216

>>13100046
Both. Firstly, Liziqi is legit, but she's also working on the understanding that the state is supporting her purely because she presents a romanticised view of rural Chinese life which never existed.

Secondly, Chinese girls really do cook all that shit all the time. I'm in China rn and my flatmates will cook huge hotpots and soups and fried chicken stuff and their own sauces and pickles and force it on me if I don't quickly tell them I've already eaten.
>>13100055
this

>> No.13100905

>>13100216
>Chinese girls really do cook all that shit all the time.
Wrong. Some can maybe but many grow up in the dormitories where they never have to touch a pot or even watch someone cook at all.
I had a Chinese gf and I was better at most Chinese dishes soon than anyone in her friendcircle. Its not that dramatic and rather understandable that they don't know much about cooking when their childhood consists of mostly learning learning learning but its just not true when you say that "Chinese girls cook all that shit".

>> No.13100923

>>13100905
That's not true at all. Like I said, my flatmates cook all the time (although the boy just lives on eleme) and my Chinese ex also cooked all the time, as did all her friends. Even if it was just huge batches of fucking jiaozi with the chilli dip thing.

>> No.13100928

This framerate startles me D:

>> No.13100932

>>13100046
>kill fish
>only eat the head
what did they mean by this?

>> No.13100957

>>13100923
Then we have entirely different experiences of Chinese people. Most of those I've met couldn't cook for shit. Some of the lads even burnt down his Spaghetti completely once.

>> No.13100961

>>13100957
The males raised in China are basically useless. Spoilt little brats.

>> No.13100995

>>13100046
Only skimmed it, but looks to be a highlight reel of mostly things even my boomer dad does?

>> No.13101001

>>13100995
Well, depending on how rural you are that might be the whole point of these videos.

>> No.13101017

>>13100957
>>13100923
>>13100905
>over a billion people in china
you're so close to figuring it all out

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>> No.13101020

>>13101017
Shrugging and going "well there's a fucktonne of people in the world and they all have different experiences" is correct, sure, but it's also boring.

>> No.13101024

>>13101019
What happened to those folks? Did they get deported or some shit?

>> No.13101077

>>13101020
Truth is often boring, yes. I was just pointing out that anecdotal evidence is particularly weak here, since china makes up almost a fifth of the world's population.

>> No.13101106

>>13101077
Fuck off, cunt.

>> No.13101117

>>13100928
I am more terrified by how quickly Chineese chilis grow.

>> No.13101121

>>13101117
Peppers grow fast as long as they're kept picked. It's why a green pepper is so much cheaper than a red pepper. Producing a red one requires pausing production.

>> No.13101134

>>13101121
Sugar, these peppers go red and they're still mega fast. Throw everything you think you know out the window.

>> No.13101138

>>13101106
Did I trigger the aussie by bringing up his new masters?

>> No.13101148

>>13101138
How many layers of American are you on that you think cunt = aussie

>> No.13101157

>>13101138
>new masters
Do you ever stop and think before opening your stupid fucking mouth? Australia has been China's gimp since the 90's. Emperor Ping is simply making his bitch dance for him

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>>13101157

>> No.13101326

>>13100046

I really enjoy all the videos. Very relaxing.

>> No.13101343

>>13100046
Some are actually very good cooks/homemakers but rural China is infinitely more shitty than what is depicted there

t. live in HK and have lived in the mainland in the past

>> No.13101346

>>13100046
Compared to this woman my wife is a fucking potato.

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13101394

great stuff

>> No.13101399

>>13101394
very subversive, Star Wars tier.

>> No.13101422

>>13101020
it's not boring, you're just lazy

>> No.13101440

>>13101394
I hate zoomer memes.

>> No.13101441

>>13101440
nobody:
literally nobody:
anon: i HaTe ZoOmEr MeMeS

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>>13100046
>>13100055
>>13100056
>>13100216
>youtube video of Farmer Joe showing a ol' recipe of Texas-style chicken on his country farm
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS IDEALIZED U.S. PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT. ALL FARMERS DONT LIVE LIKE THIS! WHAT A LOAD OF LIES, THE STATE JUST WANT AMERICA TO LOOK GOOD

>> No.13101451

>>13100056
Based.

>> No.13101478

>>13101020
how is saying "there's an unlimited amount of experiences" more boring than "everyone acts in the same way"?

>> No.13101494

>>13101478
not him but i feel like nobody is saying "everyone acts in the same way". while every time i see someone say "there's an unlimited amount of experiences" it's meant to end an interesting conversation people are having about cultural differences with a banal platitude. like what happened in this thread
two people were discussing different experiences they had with chinese people and they were close to arriving at a reason for it - i.e. one anon had experience with people who've mostly lived in dorms while another one with a different group. and then the third poster basically said "yeah everybody's different of course, no need to give it anymore thought than that"

at least that's how i read the conversation

>> No.13101750

>>13101394
a lot of things start to make sense when you realize what the average IQ of the world is.

>> No.13101790

>>13100046
Not even watching the vid, but if you're asking yourself this about a cooking video you're fucked. Just put all your savings into your offgrid home and be done with it.

>> No.13101792

The Chinese government can afford the very best propaganda material.

>> No.13101797

>>13100923
>a few chinks i knew did it so they all do
k then

>> No.13101812

>>13101020
>but it's also boring
So fucking what? You'd rather invent bullshit than accept the truth because you have to make your gay life less "boring?" Fucking millennial brain damage logic. Kill yourself dumbass.

>> No.13101914

>>13101343
Yeah, for the most part, people are running to the cities for a reason. I was just talking to a girl who loves the mountains and wants to live in the country but doesn't ACTUALLY want to live in the country 'cause she'd have no job and no infrastructure.
>>13101443
Liziqi is literally funded by the Chinese state, anon. She started out indie tho, and she hasn't really changed.
>>13101478
>>13101812
Because it's the answer to all of these sorts of questions. It's more fun to discuss our unique experiences.
Also, I'll have you know I'm a zoomer.

>> No.13101977

>>13100046
you are retarded if you think that camera, editing and lightning is anything close to a hobbyist effort.
just enjoy the pretty pictures and dont be too surprised if one day in the description there will be a survey low key asking about your thoughts on winnie the pooh.

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>>13101914
>Liziqi is literally funded by the Chinese state, anon. She started out indie tho, and she hasn't really changed.
yes, but so what? People shriek that "its so romanticized!! not all people live like that!!!" Would anyone say the same about rural america if they saw "farmer joe" on youtube, doing home cooking in his rustic farmhouse.
Like, how is it "propaganda"? its just a girl in a beautiful environment cooking with simple means and being nice to her granny. Because they show a nice place in China its "propaganda" that ALL of Chinas is like that?

>> No.13102310

>>13101443
>equality for equalities sake
Brainlet

>> No.13102312

>>13102296
>Would anyone say the same about rural america if they saw "farmer joe" on youtube, doing home cooking in his rustic farmhouse.
Yes.
>how is it propaganda
Anon, it is literal, actual propaganda. It's funded for a very specific reason: it makes rural China look comfy.

>> No.13102322

>>13100046
Yes it is propaganda. Rural China is fucking third world and they have the mentality of medieval peasants. But I guess it's effective if retards like >>13102296 fall for it.

>> No.13102627

Not saying it ain't state funded but are there any proofs to that claim?
I mean she doing youtube videos probably for money. Of course she will make everything look nice and comfy and not film herself shitting in a septic tank and killing bamboo-rats on the side like the usual women in Chink countryside.
Is binging with Babish propaganda because he's a faggot and makes the urban hipsterlivestyle look appealing or something? No he is just making money with good video production and I assume the same holds true for her.

Besides she is clearly the inferior Chinese cooking channel.
The obvious choice for the patrician taste would be my nigger Wang Gang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHpcjXqw0I

>> No.13102686

>>13100046
I live in Wales, would love to be able to just grow shit like this. Can I just pick a nearby woods and go throwing down seeds n shit?

>> No.13102699

>>13100961
Disagree.
The Chinese FOBs here for university are resourceful as fuck, instead of depending on the school meal plan they just head over to the pond and catch ducks.

>> No.13102706

>>13100046
Something inbetween.
Started as a genuine thing, became state propaganda

>> No.13102842

>>13101024
disappeared, likely organ harvested

>> No.13102877

>>13100046
>one woman is very skilled
So that means this is either state propaganda or all Chinese women are highly skilled?

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>>13102322
>>13102322
Im not "falling for it", its just a video series of a girl cooking in a nice place, it doesn't not mean I believe ALL of rural China is like that. Why do people freak out about it, nowhere does it say all of China is like that, damn...
Isnt it even a good thing if a government would promote and help sponsor wholesome content such as that? Shes just cooking with simple tools in silence and then serving her grandmother. thats literally it.
Just blind (american?) China hate...

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>>13102627
>I mean she doing youtube videos probably for money. Of course she will make everything look nice and comfy and not film herself shitting in a septic tank and killing bamboo-rats on the side like the usual women in Chink countryside.
>Is binging with Babish propaganda because he's a faggot and makes the urban hipsterlivestyle look appealing or something? No he is just making money with good video production and I assume the same holds true for her.
this

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>>13102706
>woman makes video showing homely cooking techniques for her aging grandmother
>government helps promote and support such wholesome content
>wow its chink shill ccp communist propaganda now

>> No.13103691

>>13102877
yes! China #1

>> No.13103749

Dianxi Xiaoge > Liqi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Go4vpAdMTo

>> No.13103752

>>13100046
it's nice propoganda.
v cozy.
I can't see anything wrong with it.

>> No.13103804

>>13103752
Sort of like the social credit system, all it is is making people not be dicks and visit their grandparents and shit. If the west implemented a social credit system where you got points for mentioning a product line in your facebook posts and getting vasectomies we would be like yeah that’s awesome.

>> No.13103835

>>13103525
Yes that's how it works retard, no need to green text

>> No.13103839

CHINA NUMBA ONE

>> No.13103869

wang gang > liziqi

>> No.13103905

wow what a believable video! mountain chink who cooks over fire and apparently had no electricity is also a master videographer and editor!

>> No.13103910

>>13103525
yeah that's the definition of propaganda dumb nigger
they're certainly not going to sponsor children shitting on the streets and getting run over by high speed cars while everyone watches

>> No.13104032

>>13100046
>love Liziqi
>don't care if it's propaganda
>comfy entertainment with cute azn grill+grandma
>sometimes cute animals that are always young
>occasional endearingly clumsy foley editing
>scroll down to comments
>people think it's real
>they don't know what film editing is
>they really think she lives in a primitive house doing nothing but cooking and making crafts with antiquated tools
>comment like they are talking directly to her and not her producer
>obviously too stupid to recognize stock audio or catch the camera tricks as she picks already clean/trimmed vegetables
kill me

>> No.13104059

>>13104032
>>obviously too stupid to recognize stock audio or catch the camera tricks as she picks already clean/trimmed vegetables
I would like you to do so to verify your powers.

>> No.13104118

who cares, it's comfy

also as if netflix isn't propanganda anyway, i prefer the message the chinese are pushing

>> No.13104165

>>13100046
I'm seeing 1800s peasants doctoring up vegetable sludge with oil and peppers. Realistically actual peasants would just have rice sludge so they're probably more like middle class. There's literally no skill here. Chop shit up and throw it on heat with a bunch of oil and dried peppers. Peasants do exactly the same thing even today throughout asia. It's the foundation of indian food, except they have more spices. If this wasn't supposed to be a wholesome propaganda piece featuring attractive actors from a tier 3 city she would definitely be illiterate.

>> No.13104209

Oh she has almost 7million subscribers. This is propaganda. Nothing chinese that's remotely big online isn't. They like her image as hardworking and traditional. It makes china, their people and their food look good. She probably lives pretty easy. I'd be surprised if these videos aren't the only time she ever works.

>> No.13104235

>>13104059
if I cared more I would but I'm fucking lazy. I don't think it detracts from the overall entertainment value really.

>> No.13104277

>>13101020
yeah the truth is often very boring

>> No.13104906

>>13102627
Yes, as explained in the thread she made everything look nice and comfy before she got funded by the state, because indeed that's what people wanna watch. However, the state didn't randomly decide to fund her.
That's why it's kinda propaganda and kinda not. Like I said, it's honestly like those "come and visit our country on holiday!" videos countries make. You wouldn't really call it propaganda.
>>13103804
No, anon, the social credit system is really really fucking bad. A lot of idiot westerners have been parroting this without looking at WHAT exactly causes you to lose points. Buying video games loses you points. You know those forums with loads of rules and moderators who love to enforce them? And how posting there feels like tip-toeing all the time, and it just isn't fun? That's the social credit system.
>>13102686
Bro you live in Wales, I'm surprised you're not living this peasant lifestyle already. I bet there's a bunch of people who dedicate themselves to this sort of thing around where you live, even if they're probably all old weird boomers.
>>13104277
Guess we can't discuss anything ever then.

>> No.13104918

>>13104165
She's legit, you know. She got fired from her job and had to move back to the country with her grandmother so she started making videos because she had nothing else to do. It's when she got big doing that that she got given support.
You do realise all those "I moved from the country to get a job here~" girls had to come from somewhere, right?
>>13104209
This, even the "cyborg girl" with lights beaming from her short shorts and the boyfriend who may or may not actually make all her stuff has to be very very very careful not to say anything which pisses off the government. VICE spliced an interview of her with an interview with tibetan protestors or something and she got hugely butthurt because just that association could fuck her.

>> No.13104928

>>13101750
The IQ scale is based around the average, so this statement makes little sense unless you have a low IQ.

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>>13100046
fuck off chink shill

>> No.13105172

She’s the Chinese pioneer woman lol

>> No.13105369

>>13102296
It shows a beautiful image of China and I would have unironically believed China was a great place — had I not seen all the webms of Chinese children getting run over by cars, kidnapped in plain sight for organ harvesting, or straight up beaten to death in the street as passerbys look, but do nothing.

>> No.13105386

>>13105369
I went on a trip to China before and the homeless population is fucking scary there, alot of them are deformed and act like zombies

>> No.13105395

>>13105386
>Kill your kids if you have more than one
>Eat baby soup
>Social credit score
>actively censor foreign media
>Leave homeless alone
Why wouldn't China just execute their homeless?

>> No.13105444

Lot of people here really don't understand what propaganda is. Something can be completely true and also propaganda. Propaganda isn't just the fabrication of lies to make something look good or bad. Putting a lens on a real good or bad thing for the purpose of persuasion is still propaganda. Simply not drawing attention to the things that do not support your message is also propaganda.

Propaganda that is entirely fabricated or outright contradictory to reality is generally far less effective than "authentic" propaganda. As "stupid" as the average person is, the general populace is actually quite good at identifying out and out falsehood.

>> No.13105470

>>13104906
I think the difference is that the those holiday advertisements and this is that those don't conceal a plethora of human rights abuses behind the scene, but this does.

>> No.13105652

>all these seething mutts
I guess food network is American propaganda, do they think they can gloss over daily injustices such as child malnutrition with their immaculately prepared roasts?

>> No.13105662

>>13101020
Based alternative facts retarded anon

>Galze

>> No.13105703

>>13105444
literally everything is propaganda then because nothing is truly unbiased. any conveyed information is always meant to achieve some end at some level. chemistry books are propaganda to create more STEM grads (and therefore affect society in whatever myriad ways) rather than to simply convey the information of chemistry. your definition is overly broad.

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>>13105444
checked. here is a visual representation for those retards that still dont get it.

>> No.13105764

>>13101443
>>13102296
>>13103506
>>13103525
Impressive

With this most recent achievement, fate has, in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. The blessings of Chinese plasma stealth technology, undetectable hypersonic combat vehicles, quantum direct-current electricity, neutrino submarine detectors, gamma titanium mono crystal turbines, quantum aircraft carriers, unmanned autonomous A.I. tanks, near-space ballistic air-to-air missiles, super light tanks, +2km range airburst rifles, quantum enhanced railguns, 5G Remote Surgery, magnetized plasma cannons, quantum superalloy drones and the genuine Liziqi cooking channel will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

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>>13102312
>>13102322
>>13105369
>>13102706
>>13103835
>>13103910
>>13103752
>>13103905
>>13104032
>>13104906
>>13105395
>>13105444
>>13105703
>>13105709
see
>>13105652
People here freak the fuck out as soon as China is metninoed, especially if its something positive or nice. What positive or nice thing from China would you allow that you dont class as propaganda?
>I guess food network is American propaganda, do they think they can gloss over daily injustices such as child malnutrition with their immaculately prepared roasts?
this is exactly what I mean. as someone said before too, is binging with babish propaganda too? Its a professionally done video with a nice looking guy in a clean place making food, uh oh!! why the FUCK didnt he show homeless people outside his apartment?? >:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kDUl2ly8LE
These videos are way more "rough" than OP video, but are still comfy. Are they also propaganda? They showed happy people in china, wtf?? where are the constantly collapsing buildings? children getting organ-harvested left right and center? people getting instantly grabbed and shot by the government for not permanently smiling and praising the state?

And this are things people in this thread actually spout, they think this is everyday life in china? America has such a sick warped view/perception of China right now. I guess it is from a combination of the current "trade-war" and competition for global nr. 1 world power, combined the isolation of Chinese interaction/perspective due to the isolation of the internet wall. Americans have become truly indoctrinated and rabidly(!) anti-chinese. They usually think that us in Europe also totally share this sentiment and are fully "on their side" in this.
It feels like most chinese stereotypes are like 10 years out of date. Again, probably due to the isolation of internet wall. Even "cheap crap from china" doesnt really apply anymore.

>>13105764
cringe

>> No.13106007

>>13105703
Yeah, but postmodernism is old news at this point. Propaganda is when ideological influence is the primary intention of the communication.

>> No.13106022

>>13105444
>spends two paragraphs trying to define propaganda
>no mention of "government" anywhere
I don't think YOU understand what propaganda is

>> No.13106023

>>13106004
stfu, chink

>> No.13106026

>>13106004
It being wholesome doesn't stop it from being Propaganda.
It's not implying that everyone in China is living like that, nor that poor people and degradation don't exist, it's promoting a mode of life that's more convenient for the state.
If you can't see that you're deluded.

>> No.13106027

>>13105764
I need a /ck/ version of this posst.

>> No.13106030

>>13106026
why are you talking to a reply spamming faggot? the retard just wants them (You)'s.

>> No.13106039

>>13106030
He bothered to write such a long post so I wanted to call him a faggot at least

>> No.13106044

>>13106023
I am not Chinese or have Chinese relatives
>>13106026
>it's promoting a mode of life that's more convenient for the state.
what? do you mean that they have to promote this basic/primtive lifestyle because they can handle everyone living modern lives?
Also again, what positive Chinese thing would you allow to be shown then? If it shows something positive, even if its doesnt claim everything is that positive, its propaganda after all.
>People dancing? fuck these videos, its just chinese propaganda for getting people to dance together... Yea, they dont say ALL of china is a good dancer, but it promotes being friendly together, which is convenient for the STATE. ignore these insidious videos

>> No.13106046

>>13106044
Holy shit I've got Xi Jingping himself reading something I wrote this very minute.

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>>13106046
u got me!

but what im saying is still right tho. Americans need to CHILL OUT when >anything< about china is shown or mentioned

>> No.13106050

>>13106044
Hey, Jingypingy old buddy, imagine if you saved the Kurds and suppressed the ISIS resurgence right now. You'd probably fast track your nation's global dominance by at least five years. America would be eternally BTFO.

>> No.13106051

>>13106044
More and more people are moving to cities. Many villages and rural areas are devoid of young folks.
It's only natural they try to prime this type of living

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>>13106048
lad you are very dumb. fuck off and look up the definition of propaganda. if that still doesnt help - consider riding a local escalator.

>> No.13106349

Youtube isn't even accessible in China, how can anyone think she isn't sponsored by the state ?

>> No.13106378

>>13101441
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.13106451

>>13105703
>chemistry books are propaganda to create more STEM grads
only on 4chan you would see such obnoxious analyses such as this. you say some rational thing at first, and say the most inane, braindead opinion on the next.

>> No.13106900

>>13100046
Don't give one shit about her cooking, but I want to rape the shit out of her.

>> No.13106935

>>13106900
relax bucko

>> No.13107519

>reee China
Holy cringeroly you burgermuts need to chill out.