/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13010784]

MEAT EATERS ETERNALLY WRONG

Study:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2217915-avoiding-red-or-processed-meat-doesnt-seem-to-give-health-benefits/

The study looked at the effects of cutting meat consumption by just three portions a week, without saying what amount people were consuming to start with.
A study looking at smokers cutting down by just 10 cigarettes a day might produce similar results (a small reduction in risk of disease), but how sensible would it be to suggest they continue smoking?

>"evidence"

All the evidence from this study was assessed to be low or very low in certainty – so at best, the results are unreliable.
Many of the participants were young and unlikely to suffer illness in the short time period involved in the trials.You don’t develop bowel cancer two weeks after eating a bacon sandwich.

>layers of flaws

Experts have slammed the study’s conclusions. Professor Walter Willett is Professor of Epidemiology and Nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health and lead author of the EAT-Lancet Commission, which advocates a plant-based diet for both environmental sustainability and health.

He said: “This report has layers of flaws and is the most egregious abuse of evidence that I have ever seen.”

[Anonymous No.13010789]

>a 'disgrace'

In a comment on the Annals of Internal Medicine website, Public Health Officer Henning Ansor, of the Public Health Department in Santa Barbara County in the US, said: “For the Annals to publish this article (and for the authors to even write it without concern for the environmental effects of food choices) shows, to what extent we as physicians, are out of touch with the real world. It is a disgrace!”

The World Cancer Research Fund does not accept the study’s new interpretation of the evidence either.

Dr Giota Mitrou, Director of Research Funding and Science External Relations said: "It could be putting people at risk by suggesting they can eat as much red and processed meat as they like without increasing their risk of cancer.

[Anonymous No.13010813]

eat meat

[Anonymous No.13010823]

and die of early cancer

[Anonymous No.13010838]

>>13010784
>Experts have slammed the study’s conclusions. Professor Walter Willett is Professor of Epidemiology and Nutrition at the Harvard School of Public Health and lead author of the EAT-Lancet Commission, which advocates a plant-based diet for both environmental sustainability and health.
>He said: “This report has layers of flaws and is the most egregious abuse of evidence that I have ever seen.”
Source for these claims?

[Anonymous No.13010878]

>>13010784
Seething vegan LOLOLOLOL!

[Anonymous No.13010910]

>>13010878
Seething? The entire academic community is laughing at you for thinking this is a valid study. Seething meatcucks!

[Anonymous No.13010931]

>>13010878
>>13010910
It makes me sad how the world has lost so much decorum.

[Anonymous No.13010936]

Ask me how I know this is complete bullshit just based on its face value without having to at all dig any deeper.

[Anonymous No.13010941]

>>13010784
Here have a burger

[Anonymous No.13010963]

why do you care so much if other people want to do something that shortens their life?

[Anonymous No.13011030]

>>13010963
Sentient beings are being tortured and murdered because of "MUH TASTE"

[Anonymous No.13011037]

>>13010784
>Is it ok for us to kill our babies
Abortions exist, so yes.

[Anonymous No.13011042]

>another vegan thread

[Anonymous No.13011051]

>>13010784
Yes goys, stop eating like your granparents, throw out those ancestral foods and eat our cereals with Disney characters on them.

[Anonymous No.13011054]

>>13011030
people aren't going to stop eating meat. people have been pushing veganism for thousands of years, and it's still a very small percentage of the population. most vegans don't even stay vegan for long.

you should support getting lab-grown meat into stores, and ensuring its quality and nutrition matches the real thing. even people who currently eat meat say they would switch to that because they aren't too happy with the idea of needing to kill animals for food. you're never going to get everyone to go vegan.

[Anonymous No.13011068]

>>13010784
Is this bait? Or are vegans really this upset about this article? Talk about your whole world falling apart! LOL

[Anonymous No.13011085]

>>13010910
>the entire academic community

So a handful of paid vegan propaganda specialists is "the entire academic community?" The whole world lols at vegans, and with good reason.

[Anonymous No.13011098]

>>13011030
Yes, by you and all vegans. Stop killing animals if you are so concerned. TIA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGHKr-NoqQ&app=desktop

[Anonymous No.13011111]

>>13011054
The point is to get white people to stop eating meat, vegansim isn't being pushed in china.

[Anonymous No.13011124]

>>13011111
Numerals confirm

[Anonymous No.13011128]

>>13011111
Israel is the world capital of veganism for a reason.
I'm sorry you are low IQ and watched too many keto vids on youtube.

[Anonymous No.13011135]

>>13011128
They look pretty unhealthy

[Anonymous No.13011142]

>>13011128
I never brought up israel, climate change is a Chinese psyop

[Anonymous No.13011149]

>>13011054
>people have been pushing veganism for thousands of years
The term vegan wasn’t even a thing until last century, any veganic eating hasnt even been in recorded history until a couple hundred years ago

[Anonymous No.13011154]

>>13011111
China is still mostly poor and it's harder to get poor people to believe animal products are unhealthy because they don't have them that often. It's only when someone basically has unlimited access to animal products that they start thinking it's bad.

[Anonymous No.13011157]

>>13011098

[Anonymous No.13011164]

>>13011142
>climate change is a Chinese psyop
And here I used to think you couldn't infer dry sarcasm from text

[Anonymous No.13011171]

>>13010784
I hope the comic artist is pro life

[Anonymous No.13011180]

>>13011164
When you learn the communists are pulling the strings it all starts to make sense.

[Anonymous No.13011182]

>>13011149
This was foretold in scripture.

[Anonymous No.13011183]

>>13011149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#History
>The practice can be traced to Indus Valley Civilization in 3300–1300 BCE
>One of the earliest known vegans was the Arab poet al-Maʿarri (c.973 – c.1057).
The word vegan might be new but the practice isn't.

[Anonymous No.13011195]

>>13011157
Your hands are dripping in animals blood vegan. Why the sanctimony animal killer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stfuoAgn-DQ&app=desktop

[Anonymous No.13011236]

>>13011195
Some vegans will admit that their diet still causes animals to be killed, but it's less than how many are killed for an omnivorous diet. Acting like it doesn't matter if you can't reduce the kill count to 0 so you shouldn't worry about it makes you seem irrational.

Most omnivores should care about that too, not so that they go vegan, but because most people are overeating and wasteful and it causes more animals to be killed unnecessarily.

[Anonymous No.13011246]

>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.13011371]

>>13011157
Carnists literally btfo! >>13011195 aka toothless, attempts to sputter and squirm a recovery but the data crushes him.

[Anonymous No.13011398]

>>13011195
TOOTHLESS

[Anonymous No.13011399]

>>13011182
>muh theoretically existing early chritcuck prosletyzer extolled carnism
>eat bread it's muh flesh, drink wine it's muh blood
Good goy! Now go evangelicize!

[Anonymous No.13011411]

>>13010784
Dilbert is anti-choice? That is quite problematic.

[Anonymous No.13011427]

>>13010784
>MEAT EATERS ETERNALLY WRONG
No it's not FUCK OFF!

[Anonymous No.13011439]

>>13011371
I don't have to "recover" anything. I'm not the one in the starvation cult, I'm the one laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.13011444]

>>13011398
Why do vegans have such wretched awful rotten teeth btw? Never could get an answer on that.

[Anonymous No.13011446]

>>13010784
>and lead author of the EAT-Lancet Commission, which advocates a plant-based diet
Oh wow, he doesn't seem biased AT ALL!

>>13010789
>and for the authors to even write it without concern for the environmental effects of food choices
That has absolutely nothing to do with whether meat is healthy to eat or not. These people have clearly already made up their minds and agendas.

[Anonymous No.13011468]

>>13011411
>inviting yourself into a stranger's home
>not inviting them to your place so they can learn the culture of the country they moved to

[Anonymous No.13011485]

>>13011468
The Left doesn't have a culture. They just appropriate other people's just like (((them))).

[Anonymous No.13011514]

>>13011444
Can’t steal the precious calcium from the cow, that would be wrong.

[Anonymous No.13011551]

>>13011514
Yeah, you gotta respect the stupid cow's wishes.

[Anonymous No.13011568]

>>13011551
It's all so crazy because vegans want to kill off all the cows. Their "compassion" is something in between insanity and pure evil.

[Anonymous No.13011600]

>>13011085
>look at this pic with unverifiable sub-images! they're all vegans!
C'mon, not even a vegan but using shit like infographs as your argument is a sure way to look retarded. Also, we get most of our vitamin D from body processes using sunlight, not meat, and I'm sure vegans go outside more than any of us.

[Anonymous No.13011619]

>>13011568
Surely that will end all cow farts but don't kill any buffalo or bison.

[Anonymous No.13011654]

>>13011444
I did some research awhile back when people liked that webm of that guy screaming and his teeth fly out. It's due to a lack of vitamins only found in animal products.

[Anonymous No.13011668]

>>13011439
>the toothless ignoring data once again to promote his carnist brainwashed from childbirth cult!
One doesn't even need to flip a coin to determine where you fall on the political spectrum. Now go get your equipment to attempt to clean the rotting flesh clagging the few teeth you have left.

[Anonymous No.13011689]

>>13011135
He is the patriarch. He is probably extremely wealthy from his long career shilling for the starvation cult, but it looks like that very same death diet is about to end him.

[Anonymous No.13011712]

>>13011600
Vegans can't get any vitamin D no matter how much time they spend outside, no cholesterol/meat in the diet means they can't process vitamin D regardless. Also notice how (Caucasian) vegans all look like pale ghosts, also anemia.

And black vegans are literally bringing rickets back lol (in their children they malnourish)

[Anonymous No.13011763]

>>13011600
What's wrong- Don't you want to see the results of the healthiest diet known to man??

[Anonymous No.13011774]

>>13011654
I believe this is true. Vegans reject our species-specific diet, and try to live on cow food, with miserable results...

[Anonymous No.13011856]

>>13010784
>vegans

[Anonymous No.13011862]

>>13011712
That’s not even remotely true you dumbass

[Anonymous No.13011863]

Animal rights activists had a parade in Toronto in the Summer. I was very concerned that they were holding up the streetcar and I would be late for my movie!

[Anonymous No.13011881]

>>13011863

[Anonymous No.13011901]

>>13011600
Show me how you get D12 from the air too. Oh, you have to buy supplements from big pharma to not die? Well done, you just outplayed yourself for no reason at all. Get lost, corporate pawn.

[Anonymous No.13011907]

>>13011568
They're the same as the nihilist scum that think nonexistence is preferable to any amount of suffering and brag about not procreating

[Anonymous No.13011915]

>>13010784
Goddammit OP here I can't believe I forgot to mention that I'm gay.

[Anonymous No.13011940]

>>13011901
You mean B12 you actual brain damaged faggot?

>ah blooo muh big pharma!!
Yeah that giant B12 supplement product that only Bayer churns

[Anonymous No.13012021]

>>13011907
Anyone who would spawn a being into the dystopian world you vehemently advocate for, should be prosecuted for child abuse. Do you even Greta? We're not spawning anymore until our overlords get their shit together and start fixing their fuck ups. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.13012035]

>>13011907
>>13012021

[Anonymous No.13012049]

>>13012021
OK nice troll lol.
But the veganbots are removing their genes from flat Earth, may it please Gaia!

[Anonymous No.13012108]

>>13012049
Cope

[Anonymous No.13012182]

>>13012108
That's a typo, the average life of a real vegan (vegan from birth) is 8.5 months...

[Anonymous No.13012198]

I'm not interested in being right, I'm interested in eating meat

[Anonymous No.13012224]

>>13012021
>We're not spawning anymore until our overlords get their shit together and start fixing their fuck ups.
Or just make breeding pits.

[Anonymous No.13012232]

>>13012182
Look mum, I posted it again! Can I have muh good boy tendies and blood sauce now!

[Anonymous No.13012252]

>>13010784
>He said: “This report has layers of flaws and is the most egregious abuse of evidence that I have ever seen.”

[Anonymous No.13012260]

>>13011551
>Backing up with his hands in the same position
inadvertently hilarious

[Anonymous No.13012316]

>>13012108
both my grandparents lived to 76 after having the worst diets of predominately burnt hamburgers, smoking three packs daily, and drinking only diet coke and they both died of colon cancer
I think I'm gonna be okay.

[Anonymous No.13012325]

>>13012316
Do you not understand what the word 'average' means?

[Anonymous No.13012326]

>>13011600
They’re all vegans. I’ve seen their videos. The chick in the bottom right is the most interesting imho

[Anonymous No.13012330]

>>13012316
You need to get a colonoscopy every month. That shit is hereditary.

[Anonymous No.13012370]

Who the fuck cares if its fair or nice to the animals we kill and eat them?

You think anything we do is fair? Is it nice to the animals we just show up and concrete the whole fucking forest and put up a city? Of course not it completely disregards their wants and needs.

But nobody cares because guess what nature is an arms race and we won.

[Anonymous No.13012713]

So why should we be the o my animal that doesn't eat meat? All "herbivores" eat meat if the soil their feed is poor.

[Anonymous No.13012723]

You realize all herbivores in nature eat meat when they can get their hands on it. If you honestly believe you can go for long without meat, I'd like to redirect you to webmd's page about anemia.

[Anonymous No.13012836]

>>13012723
Wrong. Most herbivores don't have hands, imbecile. Also wrong.

[Anonymous No.13012848]

>>13011030
>What about the ANIMALS
>orders soy on his Iphone made from lliteral slave labour

[Anonymous No.13012859]

>>13012836
Herbivores eat meat. Gorillas who are herbivores and eat leaves famously eat insects when they're low in nutrients. This gives them b12 which is very much needed to avoid going anemic.
https://youtu.be/TdTXaFtDqZE
Vegans obtain really small amounts from insects as well. Its not enough, though and it'll come and bite them in the ass further down in life.

[Anonymous No.13012865]

>>13012021
>We're not spawning anymore
Yes incel, because you had a choice.

[Anonymous No.13013410]

>YOU DON'T NEED MEAT TO SURVIVE YOU MURDERERS
>th-these supplements? IGNORE THEM I JUST LIKE THE TASTE OK?!

[Anonymous No.13013423]

>>13013410
Yeah maybe you have the vegans caught there but I've been vegetarian for years and I've never taken supplements. I've also gone from 29 BMI to 23 BMI, cholesterol down, lower blood pressure, etc. Other good effects like higher and more consistent libido too. I don't see veganism as health-viable but you may as well try vegetarianism

[Anonymous No.13013631]

>>13010963
They rarely, if ever, just drop dead one day from full health directly to corpse. They cost millions upon millions, probably more, as they get hospitalized and treated and then become increasingly unable to sustain themselves because of it, which is another PREVENTABLE burden for everyone.

[Anonymous No.13013707]

>>13012035
No.. it is a tragedy beyond measure, if we leave this world to non-whites.

[Anonymous No.13013723]

>>13013631
It is rather shocking, how vegans don't seem to care about the harm they cause, to others and themselves..

[Anonymous No.13013770]

>>13013707
the tragedy has long-since passed, it was just too quiet to notice. mankind goes out, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

Rejoice! For with no hope there is no despair.

[Anonymous No.13013851]

>>13010784
I'm gay, btw, not sure if that matters.

[Anonymous No.13013861]

>>13012370
>Who the fuck cares if its fair or nice to the animals we kill and eat them?
a lot of people seem to care. thinking that being on top makes it okay to just shit all over everything else is retarded.

[Anonymous No.13013867]

>>13013423
>I've also gone from 29 BMI to 23 BMI, cholesterol down, lower blood pressure, etc. Other good effects like higher and more consistent libido too.
All those benefits come from just eating less too. Being overweight is more of an issue than which diet you choose to follow most of the time. But a vegetarian diet can still be pretty healthy.

[Anonymous No.13013946]

>>13013861
A lot of people pretend to care, then they pay farmers to massacre animals for them with pesticides, bulldozers, shotguns etc etc etc.

>Oh my Goddess I love animals so much!!!!
>Here Mr. Pea protein isolate farmer, here's my money could you please use it for mass animal culling on your farm??? Thanks so much!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGHKr-NoqQ&app=desktop

[Anonymous No.13013964]

>>13011030
i don't give a fuck. tastes good, has health benefits, makes men stronger.
deal with it

[Anonymous No.13013970]

>>13011128
nice downie from a malnourished family

[Anonymous No.13013975]

>>13013946
I don't think anybody's critical thinking is really as bad as yours. You're just too desperate to think. You're latching on to anything.

[Anonymous No.13013986]

>>13011863
>i want to live
>free the animals
what did it mean by this?

[Anonymous No.13013996]

[Anonymous No.13014099]

>>13010789

Vegan shills are are stroking out from rage lmao. Pure SEETHING and coping.

[Anonymous No.13014752]

>>13014099
See
>>13010910

Maybe read more than half a post before posting next time, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.13014778]

>>13013975
>More vegan sophistry.

Wow I'm totally shocked! Enjoy your enhanced cancer risk in everything you eat, which a known vegan specialist openly admits here.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpHW4En0F0U

[Anonymous No.13014794]

>>13013986
"I want to live" the so-called vegan activist is speaking for the cows, which vegens want to kill off. As if the vegan death cult couldn't get any more evil.

I want the cows to live, vegans want them all dead. Frankly I hope the vegans die off not the cows...

[Anonymous No.13014807]

>>13011149
are you retarded?
jainists are as hardcore vegans as you get and those fuckers have been around since before christianity split.

[Anonymous No.13014826]

>>13012108
This can be explained easily, using logic puzzles. Inv4 reddit spacefagging.

Who are vegans? (STRICT: VEGAN. Hindu vegetarians don't count) They are predominantly upper-middle or uppee class individuals of wealthier nations of the world, with the highest living standards, public hygeine and medical treatment. If you go to a poor neighbourhood even in a rich country, like the USA, you'll notice theres what? No vegans. This is vecause vegan diets are expensive and require redrifgerators and cooking skills that they don't have, so they just eat mcdonalds (unhealthy).

People who are vegans have higher average lifespan because they are priviledged to have access to better lives than omnivores in general. Rich asian bitches with FOB parents in Toronto are vegan. Rich Jews and mennonites are vegan for virtue signalling e-clout.

Poor black niggers addicted to crack in Atlanta are not vegans.

Your argument is piss and stupid.

[Anonymous No.13014895]

>>13014826
Funny how there are zero vegans in China, but every Asian whore who gets over here is fully woke and vegan lol. (Not all, but a lot, so many)

[Anonymous No.13014900]

>NOOOOO, THINK OF THE CUTE PIGS AND CHICKENS

[Anonymous No.13015138]

>>13014895
there are some jains, and buddhists who will be "vegan" in their own way for religion but its a small minority.
>there are zero vegans in china
you don't get praised for being a vegan on asian social media circles. therefore there is less reason to be one. they just don't care and if you are vegan they just keep it to themself. truly, its a foreign concept.

[Anonymous No.13015160]

>>13011446
>Oh wow, he doesn't seem biased AT ALL!
He advocates a plant-based diet (based on plants, not vegan) because that's what research says is the best. It's not biased.

[Anonymous No.13015202]

>>13014826
Sounds like some made-up cope to me.
>Poor black niggers addicted to crack in Atlanta are not vegans.
Exactly. That's your typical meat eater.

[Anonymous No.13015223]

>>13015202
>typical
nice shitpost. 0/10 got one (You). it's as outrageous as saying the average vegan is a dying, sickly gazelle looking soyboy.

just quit being a manchild and admit that dietary statistics are 100% of the time, always flawed and you'll never find conclusive information from them given how uncontrolled the studies are.

[Anonymous No.13015246]

>>13010910
How does this make you feel faggot?

[Anonymous No.13015247]

>>13011042
Post meat

[Anonymous No.13015275]

>>13010784
>EAT-Lancet Commission
they only care about cheaply feeding 10 billion people in the future. their organisation glows.

Just eat any diet that is low carb. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30630542/

[Anonymous No.13015282]

>>13011157
Am I supposed to give a fuck about the death of chickens?

[Anonymous No.13015291]

>>13011128
None of those women have decent tits.

[Anonymous No.13015294]

>>13015223
But it's true, the typical meat eater is fat, sick, and stupid. Great job, meat. Meanwhile the typical vegan is smart, fit, and healthy.

[Anonymous No.13015299]

>>13010784
Cope: the post.

[Anonymous No.13015300]

>>13015275
>just kill yourself with fat im gay btw

Cross sectional studies known to have been inadequate for heart disease research since the 70s
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/313701/

[Anonymous No.13015306]

>>13015294
Your mom sucks cock. "Eating meat" is just a euphemism. It doesnt explain why her body is such a disgrace.

[Anonymous No.13015309]

>>13015275
>The median intakes of total carbohydrate, fat and protein were 53·7, 30·5 and 15·6 % energy/d, respectively.
53.7% carb is low-carb?

[Anonymous No.13015317]

>>13015306
Dude, I'm telling you. Listen. Meat eaters look like Fat Albert. Vegans look like Blade.

[Anonymous No.13015322]

>>13015317
Wtf i love veganism now

[Anonymous No.13015325]

>"ANIMALS AREN'T FOOD"
>posts thread on a food board
Checkmate, vegans.

[Anonymous No.13015364]

>>13015317
Is there a way to not be black?

[Anonymous No.13015436]

>>13015364
Eat animal products, but no meat
eg eggs, dairy

[Anonymous No.13015765]

Veganism is self harm and a mental illness

[Anonymous No.13015783]

>>13010784
>meta study reviews evidence for the claim that meat is unhealthy
>sorts out junk studies
>doesn't find any hard evidence
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE HOW DARE YOU
>meanwhile pic related
I mean at this point, if I were a vegan I'd just kill myself.

[Anonymous No.13015950]

>>13015783
>industry funded study uses junk studies and statistical fudging to editorialize their own findings
Ftfy, dont let not being vegan stop you

[Anonymous No.13015987]

>>13015783
They basically are. We just have to sit back and watch (and laugh)

(And I can't even post my best meme on ck- instaban)

[Anonymous No.13016023]

>>13015783
I know a single child of vegans who murderously hates his parents, they should seriously be thinking about what they’re doing.

[Anonymous No.13016051]

>>13015317
>Vegans look like Blade.
Blade needed serum so he didn't have to drink blood and it was causing problems for him. He'd probably rather have lab-grown blood than an imitation.

[Anonymous No.13016059]

>>13015765
>>13015783
>>13015987
Look how desperate toothless is. He replies to himself and constantly keeps posting his baldy screenshots.

[Anonymous No.13016108]

>>13010910
>source: trust me, dude

[Anonymous No.13016426]

>>13016059
what are you even on about

[Anonymous No.13016785]

>>13010784
>Why yes I support legal abortion do you?

[Anonymous No.13017450]

>>13016426
It's that one vegan fruitcake.

[Anonymous No.13017784]

>>13012848
Theres a difference between cutting back on or eliminating a luxury and calling vegans hypocrites for not casting aside every facet of society to prevent all harm from occurring. Yes people are aware animal products are used in nearly everything. It doesn't mean you need to make it worse by raising many to be eaten too.

[Anonymous No.13017798]

>>13010784
fuck off op

[Anonymous No.13017810]

>>13016785
only if we eat the remains

[Anonymous No.13018293]

>>13012021
Is this a subtle StarCraft reference?

[Anonymous No.13018623]

>>13011128
>Israel is the world capital of veganism for a reason.

And this is how the common jew looks like, are you telling us this is healthy?

[Anonymous No.13018629]

>>13011128
God those kids look so jewish

[Anonymous No.13018642]

Why dont the vegan companies try to make fake meat patties using nutrition from bugs if theyre so concerned for animals and health and cleverly brand it, instead of shoving even more cheap canola oil/soy down gullets?

[Anonymous No.13018739]

>>13018642
I hate to say it, but the bugs might be healthy. They want to sicken and sterilize their vegan customers so they feed them the soy food/canola oil slop.

[Anonymous No.13019711]

>>13011030
sentience is just an expression of the will to live, a sentient being suffers because of the will to live, it doesn't make their lives more valuable

[Anonymous No.13021087]

>>13010931
Have sex