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/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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Isn't it weird how pictures of "fancy" cars, "fancy" athleisure apparel, "fancy" watches, and "fancy" scotch doesn't upset people of more pedestrian means, but pictures of nice food and delicious wine makes them seethe?

I can't understand it. An individual I know has his computer wallpaper set to a picture of a $80,000 wristwatch, and he avidly follows blogs about internal combustion assault vehicles, but he gets mad at the sight of food that isn't McDonalds tier. Isn't liking good food a natural instinct that even animals have?

>> No.12975563 [DELETED] 

>>12975495
I'm gay, btw, if that matters.

>> No.12975580

Because people are shallow and materialistic. You can't wear a gourmet meal around your wrist or drive a vintage french wine down main Street at midday.

>> No.12975589

>>12975495

Expensive food isn't about being good, it's about being expensive. Aka it's pretentious as all hell.

>> No.12975605

>>12975495
What's the point of putting half of that leaf off the plate when there's all that free space?

>> No.12975633

that plate looks like something you puke in at the hospital

>> No.12975669

The idea of paying upwards of 500 dollaridoos for under a pound of sustenance is pretty fucking stupid. Just cook your own food, jesus fuck it's not even that hard...

>> No.12975673

>>12975495
Everybody eats and most people enjoy some kind of food, which is why /ck/ is 90% garbage. Not very many people are actually really interested in food and cooking, though. Somebody who cares about having a nice watch or expensive car can save up and have it for years. A good meal lasts a few hours at most, and can't be shared or flaunted with anyone other than the present company, so most people can't understand spending $100+ on a fleeting experience. Your image is obviously cherry picked and meant to bait.

>> No.12975705

>>12975495
What food, the person finished already

>> No.12975747

>>12975589
>an $80,000 hublot is sensible but a $300 meal is evil and should be banned
You're who I'm asking about. Explain yourself please.

>>12975669
People who know what a michelin star is are invariably better cooks than you, but congrats on figuring out how to boil ramen noodles without burning your house down, I guess.

>> No.12975761

>>12975495
>stop liking what I don't like

>> No.12975917

>>12975495
All luxury consumption is bad. Luxury food is worse since it's non transferable. You sound the capital and its gone forever. A luxury watch (not that i condone them) may hold or increase in value for decades.

>> No.12976369

>>12975917
It only holds value for reasons that you would find objectionable though

>> No.12976384

>>12975589
>Aka it's pretentious as all hell.
It's not at all pretentious if you can afford it.

>> No.12976567

>>12976384

I dont think you understand what pretentious means

>> No.12976595

>>12976369
Why does that matter?

>> No.12976643

>>12975917
Luxury is relative

>> No.12976654

OP here I come from /pol/ btw

>> No.12976660

>>12975495
Expensive and fancy doesn't equal good you retard.

>> No.12976669

>>12976595
If your definition of value is reducible to the utility potential for the most people, then the value stored by an ultra expensive wristwatch is a signal of counterproductive individual utility functions in the potential wrist watch market participants. Those utility functions need to be rewritten in order to set up a more productive higher order utility distribution. In doing so the stored value in those watches evaporates as its demand dwindles to a value based on its time keeping usefulness or the scrap value of the metals

>> No.12976679

>>12976567
I do exactly. It's putting on airs. Trying to make yourself seem higher in social status than you are through conspicuous displays. But if you are of the social status of the clientele of a very expensive upscale restaurant eating there isn't the least bit pretentious because that's just what people of your social status do.

>> No.12976689

>>12976669
Too bad, money is useful.
$80k wristwatch can be turned into money.
$500 wine will only be turned into piss.

>> No.12976692

>>12976669
Hero destroys the gold standard. 2019. Anonymous. (shitpost on forum).

>> No.12976696

>>12976689
Never been to a wine auction, have you?

>> No.12976711

>>12975673
You don’t need to save up for one meal at a nice place, unless you are unbelievably poor. Stop pretending dinner at EMP is like buying a Lamborghini. It’s literally cheaper than my shoes.

>> No.12976716

>>12976711
THIS

>> No.12976739

>>12976669

Anon I'm sorry but I have no idea what that means I have no understanding of economics. I don't even know how you determine the value and relative value of money and someone told me money itself has no value but represents it or something. Could you please explain it in a simpler way?

>> No.12976768

>>12976669
That's not how luxury items work. Their value is far beyond their utility. It has a lot more to do with their difficulty to produce, scarcity and reputation among luxury consumers. Same is true of expensive restaurants. The value comes from the fact that you can't get those ingredients and even if you could you can't cook like the chef and don't have the serving staff the restaurant has. So the value of the luxury restaurant is much more than the utility of the food. Just like a Ferrari F40. Not a really useful car, but there are only a few of them in the world and they're a huge pain in the ass to make and maintain. But they also embody a level of automotive excellence most people can't even imagine, which is why they sell for several million dollars.

>> No.12976787

>>12976739
Ok so forget “money” and “central banking”, just imagine you’re in a prison cell with some basketball players like Wilt Chambermaid or whatever, and you all get poker chips from the warden you can barter for food and water. There are many of you. The amount of water you get for a chip is very little so you are always a little thirsty. Now imagine your cell mate points out that you can all drink your pee and you will need less water, you agree because you are mad hungry. Or in other words your utility function values the prison water a little less now. But some of you are too vain for that and will only drink the prison water. So as a whole you are still not getting strong.

The prison water is like the Hublot and the vanity represents a different individual utility function. Rewriting that function reduces aggregate demand for prison water because now you all gladly drink pee because you value food more than dignity. Now the cellmates can work out more for prison gainz and empower society to seize the means of production.

Does that help?

>> No.12976791

>>12975563
based I'm gay, btw, if that matters. poster
you're the hero this board needs

>> No.12976828

>>12976787

so... The utility function represents the desireability of a product over another? And now that there is a cheaper alternative, the value of it's own utility functions rises, while the value of the previous product now lowers and it's seen as a luxury, therefore artificially increasing the value in order to remain competitive in the marketplace?

>> No.12976835

>>12976768
Almost all luxo barges lose 50% of their value the instant you roll out of the dealership. And their sticker price doesn’t reflect externalities that humans pay for via secondhand driving (tens of thousands maimed and killed every year not to mention environmental destruction affecting farmers and property owners all around the world). Plus respiratory damage to those who must bear the tyrannical burden of having violent cagers cage to and fro, all day every day.

>> No.12976838

>>12976787
I sense you have something of interest to say on a manner of topics and would like to hear more from you. How can I go about doing that?

>> No.12976841

>>12976835

in fairness, cars are pretty much a necessity for most people. Not a ferrari, sure, but even an electric, spacious car for a family is needed

>> No.12976852

>>12976828
You’re touching upon the idea there yes. In the prison case you need to add some variables like the coercive potential of “dignity” which turns dignity-conferring goods into a value store. Eventually the chip value of a dignity conferring good can become a market signal that (rightly or wrongly) suggests that other goods may have their own hidden dignity carrying capabilities. This is the principle behind a so-called veblen good, eventually expensive is what confers the dignity and not its water exchange rate.

>> No.12976855

>>12976841
>wat is a cargo bike
>wat is a subway car
You don’t NEED a cage, you WANT a cage. All you NEED is transportation

>> No.12976876

>>12976835
>Almost all luxo barges lose 50% of their value the instant you roll out of the dealership.
Depends on the car. I used the F40 as an example for a reason. Only 400 were made for the entire world. That scarcity helps them keep their value, and even causes them to increase in value over time. I'm not talking fake luxury like your lawyer's Audi Q7 here. We're talking a legit veblen good.

>> No.12976881

>>12976876
My lawyer doesn’t have a drivers license

>> No.12976898

>>12976876
interesting post, do you mind if i ask, are you really as rich as you pretend to be? many /ck/ posters post as if they possess the kind of wealth that's pretty much beyond us plebs' imaginations.
how do you make your money and how does it feel to interact with us plebs?

>> No.12976905

>>12976855

anon how the fuck am I going to transport my microphone, leads, mic stand, guitar and PA system on a fucking cargo bike or subway? If I need this gear for my job and there's a ton of it there's no feasible way I can do it otherwise

>> No.12976914

>>12976905
Get a real job

>> No.12976921

>>12976905
HTFU
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/brazilian-man-rides-bike-fridgefreezer-back-cobbles-279013

>> No.12976938

>>12976921
>>12976914

It's a real job, and even if it wasn't, lots of jobs require you to carry gear with you. That man is on the news because it's noteworthy. Am I supposed to get on a fucking bycicle, with 100kg of shit attached to my ass, mind you, and drive ON THE MOTORWAY to a wedding/bar/funeral, covered in sweat, and then perform for hours?

>> No.12976945

>>12976938
If you ride more you will sweat less. Zone 2 training to raise your FTP

>> No.12976952

>>12976696
No, I never heard of people walking to a wine auction with a glass full of wine they bought at a restaurant.

>> No.12976965

>>12976898
I'm not rich at all. But I have a number of friends and associates who are. Plus my industry puts me in the company of lots of stupidly wealthy people. The gap between them and us is ridiculous. I think twice at dropping a few hundred on a night out. These folks don't balk at dropping well over a grand. When you're in the orbit of such people it gives you some perspective on what it's like.

>> No.12976985

>>12976965

Real shit. I know a girl who runs a chain of strip clubs and she makes over 8k a week. She gave my friend a rollex and an expensive coat on a night out, just cuz. I've seen people blow literal thousands like it's nothing. I've been to a dude's house who had a fucking LAKE, an actual full sized LAKE in his property, with boats in it and shit. It's absolutely insane.

The saddest story though is this dude who sued doctors that gave him cerebral palsy or something as a baby and invested it and became a millionaire. He's a friend of a friend who let us crash at his place once. It was just a gigantic, empty house and two bimbos who obviously didn't like or understand him, just hanging around him laughing at everything he mumbled. Poor fucking guy, perfectly mentally lucid.

>> No.12977003

>>12975495
>Car that vroom vrooms harder than cheaper cars
>Apparel thats made after thousands man hours of lab testing and development to be more efficient than walmart sweatshop made shorts
>Scotch that took decades to age
vs
>Food at a 4000% markup because youll pay for it
Youre falling into the trap of "more expensive = more better" and other people are making fun of you for it.

>> No.12977005

>>12976985
I'm entertainment industry. I've had years where I've been legally able to write off stupid expensive luxury purchases as "image maintenance". Let that sink in.

>> No.12977014

>>12975589
Looks like we found the NEET whose step dad never took him to get expensive food

>> No.12977021

>>12977005

Entertainment industry too lmao. You can write off or get reduced taxation and manage to effectively win back money through tax returns on several products if you put them down as some kind of business expenditure.

What do you do anon?

>> No.12977047

>>12977021
Music business. Been a tough decade. But I lucked into something privately funded by a wealthy guy, so I'm doing fine.

>> No.12977055

>>12977047

oh, me too, but I'm a performer. I'm not making millions, but I eek on by making a decent living doing local gigs. At least I do something I sincerely enjoy.

>> No.12977063

>>12977055
I was an artist for years, did fine, but am in the producer's chair now. Can still play whenever I want but make more telling people what to do.

>> No.12977431

>>12976914
And of course nobody with a "real job" could potentially have to dive hundreds of miles between states in rural areas, and have to say, be there at a certain time.
I feel like "cage" posters are almost all city slickers that have to commute maybe a couple miles each day. Plus I can sleep in my car. Any Walmart parking lot can be home.

>> No.12977617

>>12975589
So is literally everything else

>> No.12977858

>>12975747
Yikes, who the fuck are ypu trying to impress on an anonymous image board?

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>>12975495
>that will be $375.99 plus tip please

>> No.12978286

>>12977431
>Plus I can sleep in my car. Any Walmart parking lot can be home.
That’s dystopian and not something that would make any reasonable person think cage culture is good

>> No.12978612

>>12977014
Weirdly specific post

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>>12975747
>he is so poor he doesn't know the reason why people wear expensive watches
Try walking out of country with 80k in cash, even old money does this..hell even royalty kept some of their assets in jewels

>> No.12978683

>>12978650
>old money
>thinks $80k is “assets”