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hfcs

>> No.12975823

Just eat less.

>> No.12975867

anglos are so fat

>> No.12975873

Sugar and sweeteners lower your BMR so even on a low calorie diet you still gain weight.
Eat all the fast food you want and just stop drinking soda/eating candy and you will lose weight

>> No.12975877

40% of Americans can't be obese? That seems insane

>> No.12975879

>>12975877
if you've only been to new york or a major city it does seem off

then you go down south or pretty much any rural area and you'll wonder how it's so low

>> No.12975884

>>12974971
To be fair this is mostly women, obesity is a mostly gender specific problem

>> No.12975887

>>12974971
Even more interesting is to see a graph of yearly US obesity rates juxtaposed with the amount of hfcs produced. The correlation is striking and frightening. It's now in almost all processed foods and fast-food.

>> No.12975888

>>12975879
Anywhere there are farms the people are usually in good shape

>> No.12975889

>>12975884
This right here, women are more likely to be obese AND men are counted as fat even if their weight is from muscle.

>> No.12975895

>>12975889
Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women). 99 million are overweight (45 million women and 54 million men)

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>>12974971
where did it all go so wrong bros...

>> No.12975900

>>12975895
Men are counted as fat from muscle though so they’re inherently more likely to be seen as fat with how we test for it (BMI), it is actually alarming that the numbers are close to equal and not showing men much fatter.

>> No.12975901

>>12975873
>Sugar and sweeteners lower your BMR so even on a low calorie diet you still gain weight.
IMPOSSIBLE

>> No.12975907

>>12975897
I love how Colorado ends up sticking out the entire time.

>> No.12975908

>>12975884
>>12975889
>>12975900
LMAO is this true? Is hating fat people problematic misogyny?

>> No.12975911

>>12974971
>hfcs
incorrect
high fat diets + processed, ready to eat meals are the problem.

>> No.12975913

>>12975908
Yes there is no other system being used other than BMI for telling how fat people

>> No.12975918

>>12975913
how fat people are*

>> No.12975940

>>12975900
Do you honestly believe fit muscular people are a large percentage of the population?

>> No.12975945

>>12975911
nah, it's still overeating.

>> No.12975953

>>12975940
Men are automatically more muscly than women so they would automatically be fatter on the BMI scale at square one. You must be a female with so little brain power.

>> No.12975956

>>12975888
Not fucking true in America. Shitheads park their ass on a tractor all day, make enough to buy a hunting rifle, park their ass in a treestand for days at a time to take pot shots at deer they lured in front of the stand with fucking corn, eat a massive fucking dinner, and shit out 3 kids.

>> No.12975960

>>12975956
What is this female/never worked hard a day in their lives bullshit

>> No.12975962

>>12975960
The truth about rural America.

>> No.12975965

>>12975962
I bet you also think rural america is poor while they’re all buying $20000 tractors to go with their tow capable trucks

>> No.12975985

>gets outed that the fat people crisis is the fault of women
>suddenly nobody hates fat people

>> No.12976016

>>12975873
That's silly. It's just easy to consume too much sugar because it's not very satiating, which can easily add hundreds of calories. Some guy lost weight while mostly eating Twinkies because he just counted calories.

>> No.12976022

>>12975953
>Men are automatically more muscly than women so they would automatically be fatter on the BMI scale at square one.
Except men are taller and BMI also considers height. It's not a 100% accurate measurement but it's probably within a pretty small margin of error.

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>>12975897
updated
>>12975907
the last hope....
>>12975953
women store more fat on their chest and butt naturally though

>> No.12976049

>>12976035
That seems like a cope. To be thin makes a girl automatically at least 7.5/10 now, if skinny girls are worth so much why are skinny guys worthless? Does fat make men attractive? Face it women have pretty much cucked humanity by being fatasses

>> No.12976066

>>12976035
>obesity has always centered around where there were the most blacks
Why are black people so fat?

>> No.12976076

All of the fattest states support Trump. Why are conservatards so obese?

>> No.12976081

>>12976066
Probably because they are so poor? There isn’t a poorer race on average in earth than the african american

>> No.12976115

>>12976066
It’s more centered on places with high concentrations of misery. Georgia is highly black, but tends to be thinner than other black states. Then you have Iowa, West Virginia and North Dakota being horribly obese, but having very few blacks. There’s a strong correlation of black states being fat, but an even stronger correlation is how miserable it is to live there.

>> No.12976119

>>12976115
North dakota is the coast of the mid west

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>> No.12976150

>>12976141
Black kids don’t watch tv all day, they spend all day in the backseat of their moms car while she’s at school/work/with a man

>> No.12976163

The weird thing about these threads is that when they’re full of lefties people jump to argue but when it’s full of /pol/ nobody has an argument. Like what are you waiting for, /pol/ is right here, btfo those idiots

>> No.12976166

>>12976163
>implying anyone can actually argue with /pol/ truthsayers in good faith

>> No.12976168

>>12976163
too lazy, polfags base their arguments of their emotions, no point asking them for a peer reviewed regression analysis, they wouldn't even know what that means

>> No.12976175

>>12976066
No fucking way is there a single black person alive in North fucking Dakota.

>> No.12976180

>>12976168
So basically your a sheep and they aren’t a shepherd

>> No.12976185

>>12976175
As much as the Dakota’s get memed as the conservative epicenter of America the north is very liberal.

>> No.12976189

>>12976186
What they are saying logical though, shouldn’t you be able to easily disprove it with better logic?

>> No.12976194

Imagine how healthy west would be if wheat was as uncommon food item as in japan/korea.

>> No.12976201

>>12976185
>big cities in the north are very liberal
fixed for u.
i live in michigan, the only thing that keeps the state blue (most of the time) is detroit. nearly everywhere else in the state is conservative

>> No.12976205

>>12976194
Wheat is not at fault for people not being able to control themselves. I eat bread and I'm slim.

>> No.12976207

>>12975965
Meanwhile, U.S. farm bankruptcies are at a record high.

>> No.12976208

>>12976194
Wheat is incredibly common at least in japan because that’s what americans fed them after nuking their ass. We did the run around with korea too so probably same deal. Think about all those crazy japanese wheat snacks, it’s basically to them what the potato is to us.

>> No.12976229

>>12976205
Ok, give your idea to make western nations healthy then.
Go.

>> No.12976239

>>12975945
...which is exacerbated by HFCS, a substance literally proven to have negative satiation, making it objectively worse than pure granulated white sugar.

>> No.12976251

lmao how is fat even real just stop eating lmao put down the fork lol

>> No.12976271

>>12976208
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/what-the-world-eats/

For japan it is 400cal wheat and usa 600
Then they eat less dairy which is another inflammatory agent

>> No.12976279

>>12975877
Nah its true. Fucking pigs

>> No.12976289

>>12976185
It’s not even about the politics. The only people who “live” in North Dakota are Native Americans and white people, and all 19 of them are drunks.

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>>12976229
It will never happen. The West will only get fatter and fatter. The liberal media is actually encouraging it now and trying to brainwash people into thinking fat women are sexy

>> No.12976341

>>12976229
Why would I? This is the Chinese century. The West has become a decadent liveral hellhole.

>> No.12976363

>>12976066
I've actually seen multiple theories on that.
The most prevalent of course is just the general ignorance regarding nutrition. Yes, you can be skinny on junk food, but it's hard. People are already typically a bit malnourished as it is; they'd be even more so if they only ate 1kcal of Wendy's a day or something like that. They don't have the knowledge to make nutritionally whole meals, or just don't care to try.

Another interesting theory I heard was regarding genetics; black people supposedly have a much lower, virtually nonexistent tolerance for refined grains and sugars because West Africans didn't have nearly the same history of agriculture and grain. For them, sugar's even more addictive than it is for whites and processed even less efficiently. Supposedly, this wasn't a research paper.

>> No.12976373

>>12976363
Pretty sure at least coastal africans had grain for hundreds of years. Islam had their golden age down there.

>> No.12976381
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12976381

>all fat people are women
How is this okay?

>> No.12976382

>>12976239
>..which is exacerbated by HFCS, a substance literally proven to have negative satiation,
not true, hfcs is probably high satiating. try eating a bunch of it. I bet you can't.

However, people can eat entire pizzas by themselves, why? because pizza is loaded with fat, and fat suppresses satiety, while at the same time being very calorie dense.

>> No.12976387

>>12976341
>liberal
It's difficult communicating with someone who has a rudimentary grasp of english, Deng. How many years of shitposting do you have left before they'll let you see your wife and kid again?

>> No.12976403

>>12976387
nah, hes american anon. as far as im aware they are the only people for that use the word liberal to mean 'progressive'

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>>12974971
>called hungary
>apparently so

>> No.12976413

>>12975965
>everyone in rural america is a farmer

>> No.12976421

>>12976381
If climate change were the cause of women it would be okay.

Hold on a sec, if climate change is from industrial work wouldn’t women doubling the workforce thanks to feminism actually be a source of climate change?

>> No.12976422

>>12976411
Retard.
Your animu is fucking gay as well.

>> No.12976426

>>12976421
Holyfuck we just solved climate change, it’s not a problem anymore if women are involved

>> No.12976441

>>12976387
>to communicate*
>English
Nice ESL there. Dilate.

>> No.12976446

>>12975879
>40%
Yup sounds about right. 1 out of every 2 people here are fat. The ones who a arent fat are rail thin because they smoke meth
t. Tennessee fag

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>>12976426
If it weren’t for feminism we definitely would not be looking at eating bugs that’s for sure.

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>>12976422
remain upset, fatty magyar
you were warned

>> No.12976530

I'm glad too see that all of ck is filled with incel retards as usual. Stay strong

>> No.12976540

>>12976530
they’re making points tho

>> No.12976544

OH SAY CAN YOU SEEE

>> No.12976546
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12976546

why are all the countries that used self-reported data at the bottom of the chart?

>> No.12976549

>>12976544
Kek, based, more like america home of the fat women

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12976550

>>12974971
Consumption is down

>> No.12976555

So in the US you need to be an above average guy just to get a non obese mate.

>> No.12976556

>>12976546
Because they needed to give the graph a slope, as showing that almost everyone is fat would be detrimental to their point.

>> No.12976568

>>12974971
Someday, we will hang the people responsible for sugarizing the American food industry

>> No.12976573

>>12976550
What if it’s not even sugar? What if it’s JUST women being spoiled?

>> No.12976578

>>12975897
It just radiates out of the south

>> No.12976584

“Sugar” did nothing wrong and HFCS is overrated explanation.

Processed food and rancid seed oils are the major culprits. So the rates reflect races that get fat easily (pretty much any non-asian race) + how widespread processed food is.

>> No.12976591

>>12976530
roastie is toastie

>> No.12976608

>>12976363
Another theory I've heard is that, since almost all African Americans are descendants of the slave trade, they were selected for their size, which means slower metabolism.

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12976610

>>12975897

>> No.12976618

>>12976610
>obesity supposedly effects women and men equally even though they have completely different hormones but the races aren’t equal even though they’re supposed to be the same
So, are they actually different species then?

>> No.12976622

>>12976618
Are americans different species from yuros?

>> No.12976626

>>12976610
>source: dude trust me

>> No.12976627

>>12976066
>i-it's the blacks and the womyn!!!
HahhhahahahhahhahhhhahahahhahahahahahhahhahHahhahahah

OH SAY CAN YOU SEEE

>> No.12976683

>>12976610
o wow guys, look at that the y axis starts at a non 0 number, i wonder why the author did that?

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12976743

>>12975897

>> No.12977263

>>12975884
>>12976066
cope

>> No.12977468

>>12976446
which part of the state? im at the west end and obesity is out of fucking control. have always heard east of nashville is healthy though

>> No.12979170

>>12976573
it's not just HFCS, that chart doesn't show carb consumption in general

>> No.12979184

>>12979170
>muh carbs make you fat meme

>> No.12979301

>>12979184
They literally do

>> No.12979307

>>12979301
Overeating makes you fat, fattie.

>> No.12979441

>>12979307
Overeating carbs, yes

>> No.12979494

>>12979441
Is this what you fatties tell yourselves to have an excuse to gorge on sausages and burgers?

>> No.12979514

There are lots of fat whites, but obesity is far more of an issue among non-white Hispanics (notice how high up south and central american countries are on the list) and American blacks. I don't really care though. We've made tons of medical advancements learning how to treat disgusting stupid slobs and their worthless obese spawn.

>> No.12979742

>>12974971
what is wrong with every country that is not japan or south korea, jesus christ. i just cannot imagine having that many fat people in a country.

>> No.12979886

>>12975877
I work in a shitty ass mall and I can assure you over half the population of this fucking country is at least chubby. It's disgusting.

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12979932

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-18770328

>> No.12979938

>>12975877
What's even more insane is that's purely obesity rates. Imagine how high that rate is if you include all BMI over 26.

>> No.12979943

>>12979494
>burgers no carb
try overeating vegetables and meat and get fat

>> No.12979960

>>12979886
Whats half of 100, anon?

This is why you work in a mall.

>> No.12979998

>>12975879
I'm in a coastal city and can go weeks before seeing someone beyond chubby overweight. Don't even have walmart or most fast food places in the city. Those are the only benefits of living here however.

>> No.12980006

>>12976016
>Some guy lost weight while mostly eating Twinkies because he just counted calories.
Really?

>> No.12980013

>>12979960
Over 50% of Americans are overweight, OP's pic is only counting obesity, moron

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>>12979514
I understand people make their choices; 100% they do. If someone decides to eat like shit for years, I'll let them.
The problem arises when MANY people follow the main pattern, which in turn burdens our back-asswards health care system with lots of lardasses that have heart attacks at 50 because they ate McD's for 3 decades straight. It's not enough to say "fuck them" when every taxpayer with a health care plan gets their premiums raised by a minute amount every year.

>> No.12980994

>>12979943
Yeah, no. Meat doesn't break the rules of thermodynamics, retard.

>> No.12981003

>>12979998
Man if you ever left the central area you would see at least 5 walmarts surrounding your city

>> No.12981020

>>12976458
I bet you'd love to eat bugs, if only a /fit/ broscientists """proved""" that eating a kilo a day makes your cock big and your muscles bigger.

Besides, aren't women in Notrealtraditioland the picky eaters? Get your facts straight!

>> No.12981045

>>12979932
Show flat tits

>> No.12981186

>>12974971
>NZ is higher than UK

what happened............?

>> No.12981190

>>12976446
I once had to change planes in Nashville and literally everyone in sight was a hambeast, it was crazy. How can people let themselves go like that?

>> No.12981341

>>12976550
>source: dude just trust me, ok?

>> No.12981351

>>12976413
>$20,000 tractor
Why'd you forget a 0?

>> No.12981382

>>12980006
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Yeah, and he actually got a little healthier just because he lost weight. He still ate some vegetables but the majority of his diet was junk food.

>> No.12981416

>>12981382
I don’t think anyone is saying calories in calories out will result in weight loss, I think the argument is that you can lose weight without counting calories if you restrict your sugar intake.

>> No.12981422

>>12981416
Will not*

>> No.12981437

>>12981416
>I think the argument is that you can lose weight without counting calories if you restrict your sugar intake.
Well that's still wrong too. It's easy to have too much sugar especially if you have sugary beverages, but fat gets turned into bodyfat if you overeat too.

>> No.12981595

>>12976194
What's wrong with wheat?

>> No.12981602

>>12981437
It being easier can make all the difference

>> No.12981603

>>12981595
Gluten will make you dick fly off.

>> No.12981612

>>12976141
The TV must be making people fat

>> No.12981615

>>12976458
I wish rainbows werent a political symbol.

When I was younger I wanted a rainbow car but my dad said I would look like a fag if I had that. It makes me sad to know that he is right :(

>> No.12981626

>>12981595
The basic issue is its derivatives raises blood sugar levels more than most foods, leading to obesity.
The 2nd is it's inflammatory and causes variety of issues, its proteins going trough the gut linen causing a reaction from bodys defence mechanisms.

>> No.12981645

>>12981626
>The basic issue is its derivatives raises blood sugar levels more than most foods, leading to obesity.
Can you back this up with an actual study?

>> No.12981646

>>12981626
>raises blood sugar levels more than most foods, leading to obesity.
You don't become obese because your blood sugar is raised. You become obese because you consume too many calories.

>The 2nd is it's inflammatory
Maybe too much refined wheat is inflammatory. Doubt there's a problem with normal whole wheat consumption. Most people are fine with eating wheat unless they actually have Celiac disease, which is only a very small number of people.

Eat less processed food and eat less in general. This is a hard concept for people to grasp either because they've been too brainwashed by all the extreme fad diets and "healthy food" marketing, or because they just don't have the willpower to do it. Blaming individual things like wheat or carbs or meat isn't addressing the major issue of overconsumption, which can happen with any food.

>> No.12981685

>>12981646
>Doubt there's a problem with normal whole wheat consumption.
Yes. if you eat whole wheat rarely it's not a problem. Most people eat highly refined wheat and a lot of it in the west.
The inflammatory effect happens to everyone, not just celiacs.

>>12981645
Its pretty common sense, if you feed candy to children it produces different effect than a balanced meal. Cereal, bread, pasta and similarly fast digested and any blood glucose level graph on google will show that.
The consequence of carb heavy diet is being hungry quickly after a meal leading to overeating, partly due to different hormone signals. Protein heavy meal will suppress hunger hormones much longer than carb heavy meal.

>> No.12981723

>>12981685
>The inflammatory effect happens to everyone, not just celiacs.
Source?

>Cereal, bread, pasta
You can get all these in whole grain varieties without a ton of added sugar. Obviously relying entirely on carbs for a meal isn't healthy, but that doesn't mean carbs are necessarily bad. If I eat nothing but protein and vegetables I don't really feel satisfied either without some kind of carb.

>> No.12981749

>>12981723
>Source?
Google will pour you with articles that then quote other articles.
I guess it depends on your philosophy whether inflammation exist and is real or whether its a spook.
> don't really feel satisfied either without some kind of carb.
What do you mean, feeling hungry 1h after a protein heavy meal?
But yes if you eat whole grain its certainly alright. But people prefer the mouthfeel of kernel only wheat flour products so the advice is "avoid wheat".

>> No.12981752

>>12976229
>ban corn syrup
>forced conscription
>non-medical obesity is a fine
>anyone over 600 lbs of fat can be hunted
>no more tv ads for food
>all toilets are now squat toilets

>> No.12981775

>>12975877
American here and it's really not unbelievable. Most obese people I've known are just poorly educated in diet or eat cause they're sad. Worst part is people make it out to be "body acceptance!" Mothafucka you're just unattractive and a glutton.

>> No.12981809

>>12981749
Well the few studies I quickly looked at said whole wheat reduces inflammation. If you were only saying refined wheat increases inflammation then it makes sense. It's like the difference between eating a whole piece of fruit and just drinking the juice.

>> don't really feel satisfied either without some kind of carb.
>What do you mean, feeling hungry 1h after a protein heavy meal?
Not exactly. Just that I feel like I've gotten enough fat/protein/veg and start craving some bread or something.

>> No.12981826

>>12975877
Looking at the population around me, can confirm.
Obesity rates have skyrocketed in the last 10-15 years.
Frankly I think it's just another manifestation societal depravity (people are indulging in all vices at an exponential rate).

>> No.12981883

>>12981826
It’s feminism and fat is beautiful and 80/20 at work. We now have a bunch of fat bitches weighing down the system.

>> No.12981895

>>12981883
Actually even if everyone was getting fat, men require more calories than women and it’s easier for women to get at. Although it can effect anyone fat could be a gender issue, like homelessness.

>> No.12981915

>>12981883
Fuck off back to >>>/r9k/.
Fat men, fat women, fat teenagers, fat republicans, fat natsocs, fat incels are everywhere. It's got nothing to do with "fat acceptance" (which is just a way of pretending the problem doesn't exist).
None if this shit is going to go away unless we FIX society.

>> No.12981988

>>12981915
Why does it HAVE to be equal, how does that make sense

>> No.12982213 [DELETED] 

>>12981895
Are you literally retarded? It's the opposite. If your body requires more calories to mantain your mass, that means you need more calories to get fatter, hence it's harder for you to gain weight.

>> No.12982227

>>12982213
He said it's easier for women to get fat.

>> No.12982531

>>12976194
Wheat is basically what Italy diet is based on and it's on bottom of the list.

Stop spreading bullshit

>> No.12982547

>>12982531
>Obesity rates in Italian two-year-olds are the highest in Europe with a rate of 42%.[2] Causes are lack of a Mediterranean diet and lifestyle choices such as exercise and getting enough sleep.[2]

>The Mediterranean diet is a diet inspired by the eating habits of Greece and Italy in the 1960s.[2][3] The principal aspects of this diet include proportionally high consumption of olive oil, legumes, unrefined cereals, fruits,[4] and vegetables, moderate to high consumption of fish, moderate consumption of dairy products (mostly as cheese and yogurt), moderate wine consumption, and low consumption of non-fish meat products.[5]

>> No.12982558

>>12982547
Nice paste without reading.

And link the study you mongoloid

>> No.12982565

>>12982558
The post I replied gave no proof for his claim

>> No.12982566

>>12982547
>Causes are lack of a Mediterranean diet
>lack of a Mediterranean diet
>lack
This means they aren't following that diet.

>> No.12982578

>>12982565
What claim?
You don't believe that Italian eat a fuckton of pasta?

>> No.12983527

>>12982566
So?

>> No.12983535

>>12982531
>* means that self-reported height and weight data are used in these countries