/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12958199]

Where were you when California ruined wine?

[Anonymous No.12958206]

How was wine ruined exactly?

[Anonymous No.12958205]

>>12958199
I took a few wine classes at my school which is known really for wine.

Kids from France were sent over to study wine there and they were routinely the biggest douchebags.

[Anonymous No.12958212]

>ruin
Californian wines are among the best in the world. Keep seething yurocuck.

[Anonymous No.12958213]

>>12958206
Anything California produces is ruined.

[Anonymous No.12958220]

>>12958212
I'm not European

[Anonymous No.12958223]

>>12958213
>seething

[Anonymous No.12958224]

Californian wines suck cause they're made by wyts

[Anonymous No.12958238]

>>12958224
Californians of all colors ruin wine

[Anonymous No.12958244]

>>12958212
No need to import your wines though. The last 2 years have produced excellent vintages.

[Anonymous No.12958608]

>>12958199
Cali ruins everything it touches are you even suprised?

[Anonymous No.12958628]

>>12958212
they ARE the best. old world wines taste like trash and are over priced because muh import. sorry but California has the best soil on earth to grow wine and now the generational knowhow to continue to dominate. it's over frenchies

[Anonymous No.12958629]

>>12958206
SJWs from California touched it and filled it with estrogen to turn you trans

[Anonymous No.12958760]

>>12958238
His wines aren't very good. If you want really good wine produced by Mexican immigrants, try Delgadillo and anything made by Rolando Herrera - his personal label is Mi Sueño.

[Anonymous No.12959296]

>>12958628
>fertile soil is good for wine
Spoken like a fatty fat McDonalds customer, enjoy your high octane swill
>>12958760
>napa
>napa
>napa
There are Mexicans everywhere, can't they make wine somewhere that doesn't suck, like Yamhill?

[Anonymous No.12959357]

>>12958199
Why does he have such long and thick eyelashes?

[Anonymous No.12959449]

>>12958199
>X RUINED Y for me WWWAAAAHHHHHH

you're a crybaby manchild, fuck off and die
t. northeast, don't even try to call me a "seething californian" like the fucking reddit tourist you are

[Anonymous No.12959479]

>>12958629
men shouldn't be drinking wine anyway
>inb4 buttblasted euros

[Anonymous No.12959516]

>>12959449
Nobody said "for me", that's your projection speaking, you dumb Meiomi fan

[Anonymous No.12959534]

>california wine is bad
NO!
all wine is bad
this has been meticulously tested, wine tasting is for losers who insist that their weird grape juice is better than others

>oh but you can taste chocolate and oak and
NO!
fuc kin gross, if I wanted to taste those things, I'd spend money on those things

>but it's complex, you just don't underst-
NO!
half of the time when you say you can taste something, it's your brain tricking you into tasting it

there's a way to study all of the different ways wine can break down into flavorable compounds, and yet nobody does it because OOP--turns out wine tasting is bullshit

we ALL know that you really can't taste the difference between wines, even some tricky little food coloring would throw you off, so let me throw you off and out of my board


you can enjoy wine, but don't be a little bitch about it
just drink vodka instead

[Anonymous No.12959562]

>>12958199
wine was never that good to begin with

[Anonymous No.12959568]

>>12958206
It touched californians

[Anonymous No.12959574]

>>12959534
What Adam Ragusea video is this from?

[Anonymous No.12959592]

>>12959534
Boomers need to die and take their appetite for the flavors of wood with them

[Anonymous No.12959618]

The amount of quality wine California produces is incomparable to any point in history.

[Anonymous No.12961107]

please. the ukranians destroyed wine like 40 years ago. the japanese thrust another dagger in it.

[Anonymous No.12961143]

>>12958199
>>12958206
>>12958212
>>12958608
>>12959296
>>12958628
>>12959618
I wasn't born yet because it was in 1976

France is still assmad about losing it's own wine tasting competition-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)

>Although Spurrier had invited many reporters to the original 1976 tasting, the only reporter to attend was George M. Taber from TIME magazine, who promptly revealed the results to the world.[13] The horrified and enraged leaders of the French wine industry then banned Spurrier from the nation's prestigious wine-tasting tour for a year, apparently as punishment for the damage his tasting had done to its former image of superiority.[2] The tasting was not covered by the French press, who almost ignored the story. After nearly three months, Le Figaro published an article titled "Did the war of the cru take place?" describing the results as "laughable," and said they "cannot be taken seriously."[3] Six months after the tasting, Le Monde wrote a similarly toned article.[3]

>The validity of the statistical breakdown of the scores was called into question, so they redid the tallying. American wines still won
>There was another tasting in 1978, America won again
>and Again in 1986
>and again in 2003

[Anonymous No.12961144]

>>12959592
There's a new generation of boomlets, raised on Game of Thrones, which actually has a wine now. Mouth breathers will never stop liking vanilla extract in their fruit bombs.
>>12961143
>the only places that make wine are napa and france
Great, now that you got that off your back return to your Jollibee threads

[Anonymous No.12961145]

>>12961143
French wine is overrated but new world piss is fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.12961147]

>>12961143
>that femald judge that demanded her scorecard back so she could change the scores

Truly hilarious

[Anonymous No.12961149]

>>12961145
>>12961144
>seething

[Anonymous No.12961154]

>>12959618
Quantity. The word you want is quaNtity.

[Anonymous No.12961156]

>>12959534
Anyone who hates complex alcohol flavours is in NO position to call anyone a 'bitch'. Barrel ageing contributes incredible amounts of flavour to wine and spirits.

[Anonymous No.12961162]

>>12961143
Wow, it's almost as if centuries of complacency can lead to a worse product and a lack of good taste.

[Anonymous No.12961163]

>>12961143
Kek
>"The results of a blind tasting cannot be predicted and will not even be reproduced the next day by the same panel tasting the same wines."[4] In one case it was reported that a "side-by-side chart of best-to-worst rankings of 18 wines by a roster of experienced tasters showed about as much consistency as a table of random numbers."
It's almost like wine experts are full of shit.

[Anonymous No.12961185]

>>12961163
yeah that's the funniest part to me, they're outright admitting sommoliers are 100% bullshit hokum

[Anonymous No.12961207]

>>12961156
It's a stretch to call it "barrel aging", what you think of as barrel aging is really oak chips chucked in a vat. Good wine doesn't taste like getting hit in the face with an oak 2x4.

[Anonymous No.12961216]

>>12961207
>what you think of as barrel aging is really oak chips chucked in a vat
this is depressing to think about and makes me want to vomit

[Anonymous No.12961230]

>>12961216
If you really want to vomit, pop the cork on some california ''''wine''''', pour a little taste, and take a sniff.

[Anonymous No.12961481]

>>12961145
Which ones are the best then?

[Anonymous No.12961483]

>>12961481
You can't afford the best.

[Anonymous No.12961486]

>>12958199
i live in northern california and i always buy old world wines. i don't know wtf is wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.12961491]

>>12961483
Okay but if french is overrated and new world is piss then where are the best ones coming from? Screw the cost for arguments sake.

[Anonymous No.12961502]

>>12961491
I like Umbrian stuff.
Good climate for vineyards.

[Anonymous No.12961506]

>>12961491
Realistically speaking you can make amazing wine practically anywhere, it's just going to be prohibitively expensive to make after a point (same concept as vat-grown meat or foie gras made without gavage). So looking at California for instance what do you think you're going to get if you try and grow grapes on land that is wildly expensive, in a state where doing business is wildly expensive, with no subsidies, and where "management" consists of some rich twat who made his fortune in hollywood or silicon valley and is doing this as a vanity project. You're going to get wildly expensive wine that tastes like less expensive wine, of course.

French wine is only overrated if you're a retard, they have the climate and conditions (political, economic, and geographic) to produce high quality wine at all price points. You can accuse them of cheating if you want (their industry is HEAVILY subsidized) but even after middleman fees and taxes French wine can compete with anyone, price to quality wise, in most countries. Just because Chinese businessmen drove up the cost of DRC monopoles doesn't mean you're getting a bad deal when you buy a bottle of no-name Rhone wines.

[Anonymous No.12961541]

>>12961506
French wine is mostly additives. We shouldn't have saved their wine production since they ended up just ruining it on their own again.

[Anonymous No.12961550]

>>12961541
California wine isn't even wine, it's the wine equivalent of Sunny D.

Also, the only reason "we" had to save their wine production is because "we" sent them a noxious disease. Also, the graftings "we" sent them didn't come from California, so don't try to take credit for this you west coast scum, whatever "we" was involved had nothing to do with you.

[Anonymous No.12961558]

>>12961550
>We
You aren't American, and the French aren't real people.

[Anonymous No.12961563]

>>12961558
>You aren't American
People like me grew up being told that by people like you, if you think my feelings are going to be hurt by that you're delusional.
>the French aren't real people.
The French have better "American" values than most rah rah flag waving "Americans" these days. You people are trying to bring feudalism to America while the French are defending modernity as Europe burns.

[Anonymous No.12961569]

>>12961550
>California wine isn't even wine, it's the wine equivalent of Sunny D.
Lul xd put me in the screencap
>Also, the only reason "we" had to save their wine production is because "we" sent them a noxious disease.
The French imported American grafts many times, before, and after the blight retard, because their dumb asses were always prone to diseases.
>Also, the graftings "we" sent them didn't come from California, so don't try to take credit for this you west coast scum, whatever "we" was involved had nothing to do with you.
>We didn't save them, but we saved them. Uh fuck you, you retarded French faggot.

[Anonymous No.12961578]

>>12961563
>People like me grew...
Literally coping. The post.
>The French have better "American" values than most rah
Bending over isn't a value to be proud of Muhammad bin lejean.

[Anonymous No.12961582]

>>12961578
>look at this faggot who cried because his country was taken over by nazis
Yeah he should be celebrating like the MAGA crowd, rah rah ethnic cleansing!

[Anonymous No.12961583]

The French literally can't do anything right.

[Anonymous No.12961588]

>>12961569
What a mess of a post, lern2 greentext

[Anonymous No.12961590]

>>12961582
>Taken over
The how was important.

[Anonymous No.12961596]

>>12961588
>focuses on the formatting, because she got btfoed
Everytime.
Why do you even still post here? You're stupid as fuck, your device trolling is boring, and you resort to doing the same thing everytime someone calls your dumb ass out.
Kys unironically you boring faggot.

[Anonymous No.12961620]

>>12961583
how embarrassing