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[Anonymous No.12917852]

Everyone morning I have 1 shot of vodka before work.
After work from 5 to 9 I have 6 additional shots of vodka.

Is this alcoholism?

[Anonymous No.12917860]

>>12917852
I'm thinking yes. I did the same thing for years and I was still shaking and throwing up in the bathroom all day. Do you get sick of you don't drink in the morning?

[Anonymous No.12917881]

>>12917860

The one time I didnt have a morning shot I got the shakes really bad.
At the moment I can only go 10 hours at a time without a shot.
Used to be 4 hours, then I increased to 6, then 8.. and now I'm here.

[Anonymous No.12917895]

>>12917881
Well you're heading in the right direction at least. Alcohol withdrawal is horrendous and really dangerous. Do you drive to work? You really need to ween yourself down and take a break for a few months for your body to reset. It's really difficult to do on your own, I had to go away for a few months. My life is much better now than it was a couple years ago.

[Anonymous No.12917907]

Depends. Can you go a week without drinking anything? If the answer is "no" then yes, you're an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.12917914]

>>12917895

I tried a few times before I got on buspar (an analytic) and lamotrigine (anti-seizure).
The trouble I'm having is slowing down after work. I went from 4 shots back up to 6, and did a 9 the other day which I felt terrible about.

I drive to work prior to taking my first shot. One right before I go in to the office to get me through the day.

Any suggestions for keeping myself occupied after work so I can get down to 1-2? After I get used to that it should be a breeze.

[Anonymous No.12917915]

Short answer: Yes, Absolutly.

[Anonymous No.12917929]

>>12917914
Idk man they tell you it's really important to have a hobby when you get clean so you can do something constructive with your time. Idle hands are the devil's playground. Family support was key for me. I've got a woman who loves me and supported me through all of it. I've got a son too who counts on me so that responsibility helps keep me straight.

[Anonymous No.12917935]

If you have to ask, you most likely are.

[Anonymous No.12917938]

OP I feel like this is a problem. I personally cannot go more than 3 to 4 days without a drink, I don't drink heavily but I get an urge to drink really really bad after 3 to 4 days; it's almost as if I think to myself "look you've gone 3 days, just have a drink!"

Fuck bros; alcohol is so bad.

[Anonymous No.12918206]

>>12917852
>from 5 to 9 I have 6 additional shots
It takes you 4 hours to drink 6 shots?
Man, I'd say you're at a good maintenance/functional level. When I drank, I'd slam a water glass of chilled vodka in like 4 seconds.
I never drank in the morning or before work.

[Anonymous No.12918223]

>>12917852
I did the math and apparently I typically have 5-6 "shots" of mug vodka before work, and then another 15-20 when I get home. I'm completely functional and work a 45-50 hour week. So no, I don't think you're an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.12918246]

>>12917852
You may not be physically addicted to alcohol, yet, but you clearly have at least a mental dependency and you're drinking several times more than the recommended maximum.
49 units a week is enough to do some real damage to your body.

[Anonymous No.12918256]

>>12917938
Wow a whole three days, you might need Jesus at this point.

[Anonymous No.12918261]

>>12917852
Are you me, fren?

[Anonymous No.12919515]

>>12917852
>drinking in the morning
Yes, you’re an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.12919528]

No that's nothing. I need half a bottle a day to feel good

[Anonymous No.12919535]

>>12919528

You understand 8 shots is equivalent to half a bottle, correct?

[Anonymous No.12919538]

>>12918256
You wrote your sarcasm incorrectly. "A whole" indicates that it's a long period, whereas you should be (sarcastically) indicating that it is a short period.

[Anonymous No.12919583]

>>12917914
>>12917929
Definitely second having a hobby. A lot of people start drinking because they're bored. It's a very common issue with the elderly who no longer have jobs and only a little family.
And a lot of people fall off the wagon because the days are suddenly really fucking long. You need something to do. Preferably something that makes you leave the house, by the way, so not just video games or Netflix. Or maybe those if you go to the library or a coffee place or something for it. Don't sit around at home all day.
If you can't quit cold turkey you may want to try switching to beer instead of hard liquor. I'm not personally familiar enough with tapering like this to give very specific advice on it, but most patients I've had to tried it found it easier to pace themselves with brewskies rather than shots. Makes sense to me.
And don't buy more than you "need" for one day at a time.

>>12917938
This is mental rather than physical dependency. That doesn't make it less real.

>>12918223
There's nothing in the definition of "alcoholic" about being able to hold a job or not.
You are very obviously dependent on alcohol and that makes you an alcoholic.

>>12919515
Definitely a red flag. Interestingly, many people seem to start out drinking in the morning because they think they have withdrawals when what they actually have is a hangover which would have gone away if they had some water and waited a few hours. Eventually they do get real withdrawals of course. It's a shame.

[Anonymous No.12919589]

>>12919535
Fuck off kike

[Anonymous No.12919598]

>>12917852
Mental. Do it long enough and you'll have a physical dependency. Stop now before you literally can't go even 6 hours without horrible shaking and vomiting settles in.

[Anonymous No.12919609]

>>12919598
And if you wait too long before having that curative shot, if you somehow manage to sleep for a full night for once, the shaking and vomiting will be so bad that that first glass (no longer a shotglass of course, a bigger one) goes flying out your nose when you try to drink it.
And even though it burns like fire both in your nose and all the way up into your eyes, and the vodka gets in your laptop and shorts it out, your first thought is "Oh no, I wasted a glass of vodka"

[Anonymous No.12919764]

>>12917907
Fudge.

[Anonymous No.12919774]

I drink in the morning and throughout the day at work

[Anonymous No.12919840]

>>12919583
I am also afraid that I have withdrawals. I can go a week without alcohol, I dont sweat or shake, but after drinking the next weekend I again think
>shit this time I will get shakes
I also have general anxiety disorder which explains my fear I guess. I now just force myself not to drink, or just 1 glass wine before sleep.
But I thought noone has this problem where they are afraid of withdrawals and that makes them drink more than they should.

[Anonymous No.12919844]

>>12919840

PAWS. Post-acute withdraw symptoms.

Have one low alcohol beer and keep trucking. It will get better over time.

[Anonymous No.12919940]

>>12919844
Dont know if I need the beer. I woke up 8 hours ago and feel ok, just a bit hungover. I think it's just in my head, but I might have a small drink before sleep.

[Anonymous No.12919947]

>>12919940
How do I know if I have just a hangover or withdrawals?

[Anonymous No.12920122]

>>12919947
You drink water and wait. If it gets better it's a hangover. If it gets worse it's withdrawals.

[Anonymous No.12920149]

>>12919609
Ive ruined my laptop twice and I'm still fucking mad at myself. I fucking hate this horrifying poison that I can't stop because it might kill me.

[Anonymous No.12920322]

>>12919609
That is a bleak picture of Alcoholism you described.

[Anonymous No.12920701]

>>12919609
This is downright literary. Your ability to capture in such a concise bit of writing the horrors of alcoholism is truly impressive. Well done.

>>12920149
I've ruined multiple laptops too. Ugh.

[Anonymous No.12920705]

If I drink a whole fifth of vodka alone in a night, but can go weeks - months even - without it yet everytime I drink again I drink to that point, am I an alcoholic?

[Anonymous No.12920709]

>>12919940
Don't fucking do it. You already have a good start, don't ruin it.

[Anonymous No.12920710]

>>12917852
any more than 2 drinks a day is bad, but it is incremental

[Anonymous No.12920712]

Reading through the thread, yes, you're definitely an alcoholic.

[Zed !ZF41dz6F/Y No.12920729]

>>12917852
>I drink all day everyday, and suffer terrible withdrawal symptoms if I don't.
>IS THIS ALCOHOLISM???

[Anonymous No.12920740]

>>12920705
Nah.

[Anonymous No.12920744]

>>12920705
You're a binge drinker, which is a type of alcoholic. A fifth is way more than most people drink in a night and drinking alone is indicative of depression or some other mental struggle that you use alcohol to cope with.

[Anonymous No.12920749]

>>12920709
Would one drink be bad? Or is it just that it might become more than 1?

[Anonymous No.12920758]

>>12920744
That is exactly why I drink. I should add that I can go on 2 or 3 day benders and go through a bottle or so each day. Frankly, I'd love to go and get a bottle now so I wasn't so sad and bored today. Lately it's gotten to a weekly or bi-monthly pattern. I went about 3 miserable months sober earlier in the year.

[Anonymous No.12920778]

>>12920758
Sounds like it becomes more often which is a problem.

[Anonymous No.12920783]

>>12919840
Frankly I'm impressed with your self-control. I don't want to encourage your drinking, and your probably better off without it at all, but if you can limit yourself to just one glass of wine, that's genuine moderation, and it's totally foreign to me.

[Anonymous No.12920790]

>>12920749
No, one wouldn't be that bad, if you could always keep it to just that one. But if you do think it might turn into a binge, and that you might keep binging repeatedly after that, then you definitely shouldn't have the one.

[Anonymous No.12920814]

>>12920783
It doesnt always work. But lately it usually works during the week at least. Yesterday I had much more.

[Anonymous No.12920825]

>>12920778
Yeah it's definitely a problem I think I'll be dealing with for the entirety of my life. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I don't think the science is really in on binge drinking and how it relates to classic alcoholism.

[Anonymous No.12920836]

Any tips on better sleep? I had insomnia long before I started drinking.
I hate just being awake in bed with my thoughts, but all the tips like just go to sleep at the same time, or make your room really dark dont help.
That is one of the main reasons I like drinking so much, I can just go to bed and fall asleep in a minute.

[Anonymous No.12920891]

>>12920836
I'm sure you've figured this out already but drinking doesn't improve sleep. At all.
There are some drugs that can help you sleep, many of carry the same issues as alcohol. Metatonin is the best and "mildest" one if it works for you. And probably the easiest to get a prescription for since it's not something people abuse.
Other than that it's just the same advice I'm sure you've managed to find already; decent diet, no smoking or coffee or alcohol especially in the last few hours before bedtime, exercise, mental stimulation such as reading a book or doing crosswords or whatever...
And don't leave the computer or TV on in your bedroom. Try to have as little light and as little noise as possible.

Another overlooked aspect is the subconscious association with the bedroom and the bed; If you do a lot of other things besides sleep in your bed you'll be less relaxed in it when it comes time to actually sleeping.
I don't mean sex. I mean using your laptop or phone for hours in your bed, or even just reading.
Move all activities to the livingroom and dedicate the bedroom to sleep entirely.
This also applies when you wake up. Don't stay in bed for a couple hours on your day off browsing 4chan or watching TV etc.
Get up and go sit in a chair or sofa for that.

Cutting down on drinking will make it harder to fall asleep but the quality of the sleep will be better pretty much from day one, and the ability to fall asleep should get better after a few days.

[Anonymous No.12920902]

>>12917929
I started martial arts and it's helped me, good luck anon

[Anonymous No.12921046]

>>12920891
Thx.
Yes alcohol doesnt hurt, it does help for one evening though. But it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.12921052]

>>12921046
*doesnt help

[Anonymous No.12921240]

I've been tanking 4-6 liters of lager every day for the past 10 years ama

[Anonymous No.12921259]

Whatever it takes to get you through the day in this (((world))) I had to go for wings and pitcher of beer on lunch one day last week to deal with my life being a groundhog day movie

[Anonymous No.12922077]

>>12919589
no bully

[Anonymous No.12922110]

>>12917907
That's a stupid definition. I clear half a 30 rack a day but a week is easy to get through. I do sober October ffs. I've never drank before or during work though, that's pretty fucked up

[Anonymous No.12922141]

>>12919947
What this idiot said isn't true >>12920122
You will almost certainly know when you get withdraw. I say almost because I had night terrors my whole life and sleep paralysis as well. When I went through, I thought it was just that but more trippy. Tbh, it was kinda fun. But I woke up so sweaty it didn't make sense.
You'll know, hangover isn't anything compared

[Anonymous No.12923596]

>>12917881
>I can only go x amount of time without something
That’s like as textbook as addiction gets

[Anonymous No.12923602]

>>12919538
What do you think sarcasm is

[Anonymous No.12923608]

>>12922110
Drinking a lot at once dosen’t make you an alcoholic genius

[Anonymous No.12923649]

>>12917852
I was downing a bottle of whiskey a day for 3 years and had no symptoms of withdrawals when I stopped. I just tapered off I drank 1/3 of a bottle of whiskey on my last night and drank plenty of water so I avoided the hangover.

[Anonymous No.12923775]

almost 2 years drinking every day till i'm fucked up. fully functional (have job, social life etc.)
never drinking in the morning. no hangovers, hardcore depression and suicidal on the daily basis. don't drink that shit

[Anonymous No.12924569]

>>12923608
No but drinking it every day for the past 8 years does. Matter of fact I'm an alcoholic according to the great state of Pennsylvania. A week without is easy. Ive been doing sober October since Rogan started it.

[Anonymous No.12924573]

>>12920836
Benadryl.

[Anonymous No.12924575]

>>12924569
>A week without is easy.
speak for yourself normie

[Anonymous No.12924581]

drinking is degenerate

[Anonymous No.12925071]

>>12917852
I bring a water bottle of vodka water to school every day, hope im not running myself into the tunnel of trouble that is alcoholism

[Anonymous No.12925081]

>>12918206
I was thinking the same thing, Ive been looking at booze like medication almost like a xanax for anxiety

[Anonymous No.12925478]

>>12917907
>Can you go a week without drinking anything?
That's easy, I can do that, I just stop wanting to around Wednesday.

[Anonymous No.12925500]

>>12920891
>Metatonin is the best and "mildest" one if it works for you. And probably the easiest to get a prescription for since it's not something people abuse.
Melatonin isn't a prescription drug, you can just go buy it at Walmart.

[Anonymous No.12925514]

>>12917852
Severe alcoholism. So bad that I wouldn't stop cold- not tapering could give you seizures. I'd do next week with 5 shots a day, then a week with 4, then 3, etc until you're clean.

[Anonymous No.12925680]

>>12917852
I told an army doctor at meps I drank 1-2 times a month for occasions(bdays etc.) and he said I was an alcoholic

so technically yea, any type of drinking is alcoholism

[Anonymous No.12926175]

>>12925514

Thanks, anon. I did a similar weed almost a year ago and got off for a week. Then got back on the wagon. I'm so very tired. I can't do this much longer.

[Anonymous No.12926179]

>>12926175

ween*

[Anonymous No.12926732]

>>12925680
He's retarded. Alcoholism is short for alcohol dependence or alochol use disorder. If you don't have any sort of dependence than you can't be an alcoholic. Sounds like stupid boomer or Mormon thinking.

[Anonymous No.12926757]

>>12917852
soon that shot in the morning won't have any affect on you, and you'll have to have 10 shots at night to feel the same buzz
that's how it escalates, you can't just plateau

[Anonymous No.12926882]

>>12920836
Try the Bud Winter relaxation method or any other relaxation method. Once you get the habit it makes it easier to fall asleep and you wake up better rested.
Try also to sleep less at night and take more naps. Like 4 or 5 hours at night and then a couple of 20 minute naps throughout the day.

[Anonymous No.12927014]

>>12921240
Are you ashamed of yourself?

[Anonymous No.12927557]

>>12922110
naw man its " sober up September" for the hard on alkies who NEED to prepare by tapering off so they have less chance of droping dead from withdrawls.

[Anonymous No.12927582]

I can't wait for DUDE to become legal here so I can substitute a bad and unhealthy habit for a bad habit.

[Anonymous No.12927603]

>>12927582
>implying weed is healthy

[Anonymous No.12927834]

>did not drink at all before 18
>started to go on vodka and whiskey hard, feel awesome
>now if i drink 0.5 whiskey/vodka/rum, i have a good chance to turn into a mindless puking zombie and not remember anything at the morning
I miss the simpler times

[Anonymous No.12927934]

>>12927834
Blackouts are the only good part of drinking. That's when you wake up feeling satisfied.

[Anonymous No.12927937]

day two not drinking
yesterday was easy and i went to bed normally
now it's almost tomorrow and i'm still peak energy, no semblance of tiredness

and my farts are fire

[Anonymous No.12928628]

i dont miss having to down a pint of vodka to stop myself throwing up in the morning

[Anonymous No.12928658]

>>12921240
Based, same here.

And with based I mean absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.12928665]

>>12922110
What's a 30 rack? You mean you drink 15 cans of beer per day?

[Anonymous No.12928686]

>>12928665
>What's a 30 rack?
What is Google? Retard. Don't even respond to me.

[Anonymous No.12928908]

>>12925500
In some countries for example Australia it is

[Anonymous No.12928916]

>>12928908
Pls don't lie. Tell me you're lying. Please.

[Anonymous No.12928918]

>>12928916
Wait sorry I’m retarded I thought it was because a friend told me they got it from a doctor looked it up oi can get it at any pharmacy

[Anonymous No.12929572]

Well look at it this way: everyone has their hobby. Some people like hiking, you like drinking.

[Anonymous No.12929579]

>>12917895
>Alcohol withdrawal is horrendous and really dangerous.
I've been an alcoholic for at least 11 years, never once experienced withdrawals.
The hangovers I get are fucking hellish though.

[Anonymous No.12929587]

>>12929579
Half a handle alcoholic? Unless you're downing 750+ml you might not be dealing with the same dangerous levels of fucking kill me I'm having seizures withdrawals.

[Anonymous No.12929610]

>>12917914
Find something you like to do in which alcohol would impede your performance. Try a mentally taxing creative task. I like music technology. It gets harder, less pleasing when I'm drunk and higher.

[Anonymous No.12929617]

>>12929587

i drank 1 liter of vodka a night and on my last detox run i was medically detoxed for 28 days

im over a year sober now

[Anonymous No.12929625]

>>12917852
yes

[Anonymous No.12929663]

>>12925680
>>12925500
That's great. I work in healthcare but don't really know a lot about what's over the counter and what isn't since it all requires a doctor to sign off on it at the hospital.
Here's where I'd write a little warning about self medicating, but switching from vodka to melatonin is probably always going to be a healthier choice anyway.

>army doctor
ain't no such thing. It's an oxymoron just like "military intelligence".

>>12929579
Tolerance both the alcohol and to the withdrawals can vary immensely.
People do quite often actually die of alcohol withdrawals. Including, as far as I remember, that one guy from the really depressing documentary, which NatGeo have apparently pulled from Youtube. Cocksuckers.

[Anonymous No.12929716]

I only drink friday night, saturday night, and sunday, although on sunday I usually don't get wasted like I do the rest of the weekend.

During the week I only ever drink if I have a compelling reason to, like going on a date or company dinners

[Anonymous No.12931271]