Is "organic" food a meme?

[Anonymous No.12917605]

Is there any actual evidence that they are healthier than common food? Also, is there evidence that pesticides used in crops are absorbed by us in any way?

[Anonymous No.12917616]

>>12917605
i usually just get organic because it has the word organ in it, which makes it seem better for my organs
idk if its true but, it seems like it might be

[Anonymous No.12917642]

>>12917616
medfag here, this is actually how organic food works

[Anonymous No.12917650]

Labeling some food organic makes my inner chemist mad. Oh is the rest of the food inorganic?
Nope still has carbon in covalent bonding.

It's not healthier, tastier, safer or better for the environment. It's just more expensive.

[Anonymous No.12917663]

>>12917605
>Is there any actual evidence that they are healthier than common food?
No, and that's not the point of organic.

[Anonymous No.12917679]

>>12917650
Based Mr. White

[Anonymous No.12917681]

>>12917650
>Labeling some food organic makes my inner chemist mad. Oh is the rest of the food inorganic?

[Anonymous No.12917704]

>>12917650
>Oh is the rest of the food inorganic
yes?
ur fucking retarded, they put organic on the label because it makes the food sell for more
if they cant put the label on, its probably not organic

[Anonymous No.12917711]

>>12917605
Rather not eat foods that are sprayed with Monsanto chemicals, thanks.

[Anonymous No.12917731]

>>12917711
Everything is a chemical, my dude.

I remember once that guy from The Wolf Pit channel was complaining about "ascorbic acid" in the list of ingredients of one of his frozen or canned foods and someone in the comment section pointed out it was just Vitamin C.

The key question remains: are the "chemicals" used in large crops a threat to us?

[Anonymous No.12917735]

I buy the Publix "organic" oatmeal because the ingredients list are a lot nicer than the regular oatmeal.
Here's the difference between the two for the "Maple and Brown Sugar" oatmeal.

Regular:
>Whole Grain Rolled Oats, Sugar, Natural Flavors, Salt,
>Calcium Carbonate, Caramel Color, Guar Gum, Niacinamide,
>Reduced Iron, Vitamin A Palmitate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride,
>Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D.

Organic:
>Whole Gain Rolled Oats, Evaporated Cane Sugar, Salt, Natural Flavor.

[Anonymous No.12917770]

>>12917735
>>Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Niacinamide
These are all types of Vitamin B.

>Calcium Carbonate
Calcium supplement

>Guar Gum
Stabilizer.

Don't let the list scare you, they're typically vitamins that they add to fortify whatever they're selling.

[Anonymous No.12917800]

>finally get out of prison
>kicked out of old man's house for ordering chinese drugs
>high wears off, time to live in a tent
>food is scarce, too many people to eat from dumpsters
>literally down by the river
>apples on hike, apples everywhere

Oh god may September never end, I thank the library.

[Anonymous No.12917805]

>>12917731
Indeed they are chemicals, but.. In March 2015, the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) classified glyphosate as "probably carcinogenic in humans" (category 2A) based on epidemiological studies, animal studies, and in vitro studies.

[Anonymous No.12917814]

>>12917800
Homeless scums should be hunted for sport

[Anonymous No.12917818]

>>12917770
>Don't let the list scare you, they're typically vitamins that they add to fortify whatever they're selling.
if you look at the nutritional information, you can see literally no evidence that enough of those things are added to make an impact--meaning they can't be listed on the nutritional information as Vitamin B
In fact, it will tell you that the significant levels of Calcium and Vitamin D are at 0%

[Anonymous No.12917824]

>>12917605
Real organic food?
No
"Organic" food that's just technically organic
Yes

[Anonymous No.12917831]

>>12917805
>In contrast, the European Food Safety Authority concluded in November 2015 that "the substance is unlikely to be genotoxic (i.e. damaging to DNA) or to pose a carcinogenic threat to humans", later clarifying that while carcinogenic glyphosate-containing formulations may exist, studies "that look solely at the active substance glyphosate do not show this effect."

[Anonymous No.12917833]

>>12917605
Yes

[Anonymous No.12917839]

>>12917704
Are you legitimately stupid? Spraying pesticides on a tomato doesn't change the organism. Just fucking wash it you retards

[Anonymous No.12917865]

>>12917605
Supposedly studies have shown that they have similar nutrient profiles to conventionally grown foods except for when it comes to antioxidants. Certified organic produce should also be exposed to far less synthetic chemicals which has a really big impact on the people working on farms but can also impact the people consuming them. Typically organic farms have less of a negative impact on the local environment, which also benefits the local ecosystem and local drinking water. Certain foods are already grown with few(er) pesticides and have less harmful impact on the environment, so they are not as important to buy organic as others. An extra 50 cents more for a pint of organic strawberries can give you 20%-40% more antioxidants with better tasting strawberries grown with far fewer chemicals. Buying completely organic will have a much greater overall impact to your health, but if you're already struggling to feed yourself (and family) then it might not be financially feasible to always buy organic. If you can do so, it certainly doesn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.12917880]

>>12917616
>>12917642
Can it truly be organic though?

[Anonymous No.12917885]

>>12917831
Probably vs unlikely. Pick a side, anon.

[Anonymous No.12917890]

There were studies fifteen years ago that basically said organically grown stuff was often times "dirtier" than traditionally grown produce. It boiled down to the fact that most fungicides and pesticides listed for organic use suck a fat cock which means you had to apply them over and over again to get the same effect as spraying once with a non-organic chemical. Basically, spraying the organic stuff over and over created enough bad shit that it became "worse for you" than eating produce sprayed with "harmful" chemicals.

Lefty researchers were up in arms about it, but I don't think they were ever able to disprove it.

[Anonymous No.12917898]

I heard that there's no FDA standard for what constitutes "organic." It's a label that can be slapped on anything.

[Anonymous No.12917901]

>>12917898

USDA certified organic is a thing, and it's a bitch to get labeled. The amount of red tape and bureaucracy you have to cut through is insane.

[Anonymous No.12917904]

>>12917901

link:
https://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/becoming-certified

They make it sounds easy but it's anything but.

[Anonymous No.12917986]

>>12917770
>Don't let the list scare you
It doesn't scare me. I'm not one of those "chemicals bad!" morons.
I'm not a chemist, but I did have to take a couple of chemistry classes for my degree, so I'm not completely ignorant.

It's just... looking at the list of ingredients, it has a bunch of unnecessary stuff. So I can get the "organic" oatmeal and the ingredients are fucking oatmeal and sugar.
Or I can get the regular one that has oatmeal, sugar, a bunch of additives that don't really serve a purpose, and a thickening agent.

[Anonymous No.12917996]

>>12917650
>>12917731
is anyone making bets that the age expectancy will drastically lower by the end of this century? christ knows how the kids born in 2000 will age

[Anonymous No.12918004]

>>12917650
The definition of organic for food labeling isn’t the same as the definition for chemistry, you massive fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.12918008]

>>12917770
Guar gum is linked to intestinal disorders and is an absolutely unnecessary additive to oatmeal

[Anonymous No.12919761]

>>12917605
I brought in greens from the fields in southwestern us and it was a joke
Half the stuff was thrown away, the other stuff was no different from the other stuff it all came from the same fields and same workers

[Anonymous No.12919788]

>>12917605
There are no organic foods available on the market currently.

[Anonymous No.12919789]

>>12917735
I like how you skip over caramel color which is believed to be really addictive and is present in most processed/junk foods

[Anonymous No.12919796]

>>12919789
Meant for
>>12917770

[Anonymous No.12919821]

>>12917605
>Is there any actual evidence that they are healthier than common food?
None whatsoever. Also they're worse for the environment.

[Anonymous No.12919825]

>>12918008
Everything is linked to something shitty if you look hard enough

[Anonymous No.12919826]

i prefer to just get meat and produce direct from producers i trust
lots of small scale farms don't go for the organic label and many implement safer, organic practices

[Anonymous No.12919832]

>>12917865
>Typically organic farms have less of a negative impact on the local environment
At the cost of causing massive deforestation due to increased land use.

[Anonymous No.12919956]

>>12919789
Don't know much about caramel color, but I highly doubt it can be addictive. In my opinion we must rethink this whole concept in regards to food to see whether or not people are simply blaming the food for their lack of self-control.

[Anonymous No.12920272]

>>12919832
Any new farm will need land whether they are conventional or organic.

[Anonymous No.12920801]

>>12917805
So wash your fucking fruit and veggies first. Is it really that hard of a concept?

[Anonymous No.12920876]

>>12917818
nigger what

[Anonymous No.12920893]

Good Organic soil + Microbe tea + synthetic nutrients = the best plants

[Anonymous No.12920988]

>>12917605
>is there evidence that pesticides used in crops are absorbed by us in any way?
Depends on which one, and how/when it was applied. The combinations of things in use also matter. It's complicated.

But too many agribusinesses use pesticides as a way to avoid looking after what they're growing properly. That's just asking for trouble, but the pesticides aren't necessarily the problem directly. The lack of care is the real problem.

[Anonymous No.12920992]

>>12920801
Not going to help. Sorry. Try again.

[Anonymous No.12921305]

>>12920988
This is a very good point. Depending on the circumstances the pesticides might not have much of an affect on the consumer, but the lack of care in mass conventional farming can mean that they aren't properly caring for their product. The pesticides can also be very harmful to the workers and people who live in close proximity to the farm even if the final product isn't something you eat and becomes a component of a non-edible product. Synthetic nitrogenated soils can also cause a lot of harm to the ecosystem and harm the entire environment around the farm, not just the drinking water. Sustainable farming practices are better than ones that have a more negative impact on the environment, so there are many aspects of "organic" and generally "sustainable" products that are beneficial over conventionally produced things. It's important to make sure the labels they are putting on the products that you buy actually do have some sort of benefit considering the typically higher price and that you aren't just paying extra for feel good labeling. It's great to be able to afford (and have access to) the stuff that truly is better for your health directly and indirectly, but it's okay if you can't. At the end of the day, foods that are properly grown/cared for generally end up tasting much better when they get to your plate, which is a good incentive to opt for those items despite the typically higher cost even if you don't give a shit about the other direct and indirect benefits.

[Anonymous No.12921370]

>>12920992
Source?

[Anonymous No.12921385]

>>12921370
http://npic.orst.edu/capro/fruitwash.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29222908

[Anonymous No.12921390]

Just eat your vegetables, don't worry about labels.