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Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:01:19 2019 No.12652176 [Reply] [Original]

How do I know when sauerkraut goes bad? Or does it not go bad? The expiration is smudged. It's been opened (lid on though) and in my fridge for 5 months.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:07:14 2019 No.12652188

As a fermented product, it has "gone bad" at the factory. It simply has done so in a way that tastes good. Hopefully the rot and bacteria that taste good will be able to overpower whatever other baddies jump in when you open the lid.
Continue to enjoy it until it tastes funny or you unexpectedly get botulism.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:09:56 2019 No.12652197

>>12652176
It depends if it was raw or pasteurized. Raw sauerkraut stays good for a long time and can probably eaten as long as it doesn't smell foul or get moldy. The stuff you buy unrefrigerated will spoil a lot faster once opened since it doesn't have all the good bacteria keeping it fresh. So if it was bought in the refrigerated section and it smells/looks okay, it's probably fine. If it was bought unrefrigerated, just throw it out, I wouldn't eat that stuff after a week of being opened.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:36:43 2019 No.12652260 >>12652176 >opened >5 months throw it out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:42:19 2019 No.12652268 >>12652260 this. unopened it could keep for a year or even longer, but once opened it's only good for a few weeks. pro-tip, when it's gone bad, it tastes a bit fizzy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 05:43:28 2019 No.12652270 >>12652176 >How do I know when sauerkraut goes bad? When your bayonet turns red.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 06:04:40 2019 No.12652324 >>12652268 Fizzyness is harmless. It's actually considered a desired trait in similar ferments like kimchi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 06:09:07 2019 No.12652338 >>12652324 afaik, it's not desired in kraut

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:33:10 2019 No.12652486 >>12652338 not him but fairly sure i've had kraut that was fizzy. tasted fine when cooked.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:36:29 2019 No.12652495 >>12652176 >fermented food enjoy your histamines

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:45:00 2019 No.12652519 >>12652197 Fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:46:23 2019 No.12652522 File: 82 KB, 454x541, 1514066289673.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12652197 >good bacteria

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:12:08 2019 No.12652597 >>12652495 >t. allergycuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:11:06 2019 No.12652777 >>12652522 dumbass

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:18:17 2019 No.12652796

Look for mold, and smell it. As long as you've used clean forks then it could be just fine. I keep condiments forever, and it lasts a pretty long time. I usually have it for a few months, but make an active attempt at using it before 3. I hate kimchi so I use it instead with rice dishes, brats, and just as a snack.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:56:44 2019 No.12654044 File: 36 KB, 200x200, 1419290053960.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he doesn't age his sauerkraut until it turns brown

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:00:47 2019 No.12654056 >>12652197 >as long as it doesn't smell foul Right, so throw it in the trash right when I first open it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:28:55 2019 No.12655066 >>12654056 >t. literal child

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:32:10 2019 No.12655087 Eat it. You'll know if it's bad in about an hour

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:34:31 2019 No.12655097 >>12652777 rats with sterile guts live longer than rats with "good bacteria" in their intestines

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:38:12 2019 No.12655110 >>12655097 horseshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:39:13 2019 No.12655115 >>12655097 Gonna need a source on that obviously made up claim

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:39:36 2019 No.12655116 >>12652495 More like enjoy your bowel/esophageal cancer. >fermentedfags cope now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:41:26 2019 No.12655125 >>12655097 Yeah, in a bubble protected from all external factors like infectious disease. Classic example of conflating correlation with causation.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:41:57 2019 No.12655131

>>12655097
I doubt it. I tried finding a study that would prove your claim, and the first one I looked at said no healthy gut flora results in neurological issues and a bunch of other health problems. So if you could provide a source for your claim, I'd be interested in seeing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:43:20 2019 No.12655136 >>12654056 It should smell sour, but in a pleasant way. You'll definitely be able to tell when something has spoiled by the change in smell.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:46:07 2019 No.12655147

>>12655110
>>12655115
"There is growing evidence indicating that the gut microbiota influences the aging process. Indeed, [germ-free] mice live longer than conventionally colonized control animals"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5006193/

"The [germ-free] mice survived longer than the SPF mice"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1748169

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:47:09 2019 No.12655151 >>12655125 this study compared totally germ-free mice to mice that were free of pathogens. the germ-free mice still lived longer: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1748169

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:04:23 2019 No.12655219

>>12655147
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5006193/
>GF animals are functionally and structurally abnormal across numerous body systems. GF research has revealed that the microbiota is necessary for normal aging and immune, metabolic, digestive, GI, and nervous system function
>As GF mice are raised in sterile conditions, their longer life span is likely due to the absence of pathological infections.

>>12655151
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1748169
>The GF mice survived longer than the SPF mice, but the combination of GF status with food restriction did not seem to extend life span more than food restriction alone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:07:03 2019 No.12655231 >>12655219 >their longer life span is likely due to the absence of pathological infections. the second study I posted shows that can't be correct, since the GF mice were compared to pathogen-free mice and still lived longer.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:11:29 2019 No.12655253

>>12655231
The first study in the other post also says GF mice need to eat more to maintain the same bodyweight, so if the GF and SPF mice were being fed the same amount, the GF mice would be at a lower bodyweight which is also associated with an increased lifespan. It's more complicated than just "bacteria in your system make you die sooner".

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:15:09 2019 No.12655272

>>12655253
I think the data is best explained by the effect of endotoxin. germ-free mice should have a near absence of endotoxin, which is a major factor in aging and insulin resistance. calorie restriction also achieves a reduction in endotoxin. this could explain why gf mice didn't live longer when both groups were calorie-restricted

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:19:10 2019 No.12655291 How have you had it for 5 months and it's practically full? You must not like it, stop buying it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:20:43 2019 No.12655301 If it smells like a freshly fucked ass or is slimy, its no good. Otherwise slather that shit on all of your food.

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