Sorry gascucks, your antiquated way of cooking is no longer allowed in civilized society.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:37:14 2019 No.12650937 [Reply] [Original]

Sorry gascucks, your antiquated way of cooking is no longer allowed in civilized society.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:37:48 2019 No.12650938 Why are you on a cooking board if you prefer electric?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:44:39 2019 No.12650955 >>12650937 What do SJWs have against natural gas? I don't keep up with these things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:45:22 2019 No.12650960 >>12650955 I'm assuming it's an earthquake safety thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:45:46 2019 No.12650962 I mean, it kind of makes sense logically with how retarded people are nowadays. Why spend the money cleaning up the mess when you can just ban it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:45:51 2019 No.12650963 >>12650937 >acting like I can't just capture the gases that come from my septic tank and use that. Nice try faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:46:06 2019 No.12650964 >>12650937 There's not even any practical difference, so who cares?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:46:28 2019 No.12650966 >muh greenhouse gases Do they not realize the increased electric grid usage will more than make up for any emissions savings from people using gas stoves? Fucking retards

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:47:05 2019 No.12650970 >>12650937 Wood and coal fired ovens when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:48:23 2019 No.12650976 File: 70 KB, 653x586, Screenshot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Meanwhile, in the UK

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:49:04 2019 No.12650977 Based, fuck gasfags, get blown up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:49:04 2019 No.12650978 >>12650955 >everyone I don't like is a SJW

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:50:13 2019 No.12650982 >implying a single person in berkeley cooks a meal at home

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:50:21 2019 No.12650983 >>12650966 100% of the heat produced a gas furnace or oven is produced by burning gas. The same is not true of the power grid.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:50:52 2019 No.12650986

>>12650937
what the fuck is the "logic" behind this. all i can think of is muh environment and natural gas is clean as hell. do liberals thinks electric is a magic energy force that comes from nowhere?
>something cheaper and more cost efficient
>welp can't have that gotta ban it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:51:51 2019 No.12650989 induction is faster anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:51:53 2019 No.12650990 >>12650955 something about how natural gas isnt green so we need to ban it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:51:54 2019 No.12650991 Gas is so shit for boiling water. Most of the heat just slips around the vessel. I will never have that meme shit when induction works just as well now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:52:51 2019 No.12650993 >>12650966 no i read an article, they way they talk pretty much implies they have no idea how electricity is produced. it's just magic sparks that shoot through ropes to them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:53:20 2019 No.12650995 Are they expected to use heat pumps when it gets chilly?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:54:37 2019 No.12651001 >>12650962 You could just make people smarter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:55:21 2019 No.12651003 >>12651001 woah there hitler calm down

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:56:24 2019 No.12651007
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>>12650937
>>12650955
Read the article, apparently they are forcing everyone to use induction stoves. I recently moved apartments switching from a gas stove to an induction one, and they're such a gimmick. Can't even use half of my stone pots, can't even adjust temperature properly, when I "lower" the temperature on an induction stove, all it's really doing is providing the electricity that heats the pot in bursts instead of continuously, the lower the temperature the more time between bursts, so whenever I'm say boiling something on a "low" temperature, it'll just bubble up for a second, settle down for several seconds, and bubble up again when it's receiving electricity. I feel really sorry for Berkeley if the whole city is going to be forced to use stuff like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:56:32 2019 No.12651009 >>12651001 You really can't. People as a whole never change.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:57:01 2019 No.12651012 File: 448 KB, 450x292, Leoric Laughs.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650964 >There's not even any practical difference It's amazing how quickly you can find people who don't cook here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:57:36 2019 No.12651013 >>12651007 You can solve that problem with a $60 hotplate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 22:57:54 2019 No.12651017 >>12651012 pseud

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:00:03 2019 No.12651026 >>12651013 Even restaurants have been doing it. Ranges are going the way of mainframes/minis. https://www.fastcompany.com/90313508/why-top-restaurants-are-getting-rid-of-stoves-and-why-you-might-too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:00:18 2019 No.12651028 >>12651007 >I feel really sorry for Berkeley i don't. i hope they experience greater inconveniences. instead of a shining city upon a hill, Berkeley should be a filthy gutter clogged with the homeless

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:00:27 2019 No.12651029

>>12650962
wasn't the reason it was entirely environment. but what a naive shortsighted thought this is
>miniscule safety concern
>let's ban it
by this logic driving should be banned, there are plenty of alternatives and driving is the most dangerous thing the average person does daily.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:00:50 2019 No.12651031 >>12650937 Isn't electricity much more wasteful than gas for heating purposes? There's all sorts of transmissions loss involved with electric.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:02:08 2019 No.12651038 >>12650976 m8 loicense fire extinguisher?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:02:26 2019 No.12651039 >>12651013 And make 50% of an expensive appliance redundant. Might as well get a regular electric range at that point. Or better yet, just use gas.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:06:58 2019 No.12651058
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>>12651017
A flame heats both the bottom and sides of the pan and can be observed and adjusted instantly. While you can argue about theoretical heat distribution all you want, coils get fucked to hell very rapidly with any usage causing random near dead spots and hot spots all over the burner whereas gas is controllable. Coils also take a while to cool down and heat up, not a problem with flames; also there's no fucking fire with flames to do other things like roast a vegetable skin with.

Electric is straight shit you install in American apartments so the insurance companies freak out less.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:07:48 2019 No.12651059 Those who care enough can take the initiative to get a portable unit no one needs to know about, like those Japanese ASMR youtubers have, not a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:08:27 2019 No.12651061 >>12651058 >things like roast a vegetable skin with. That's what a kitchen torch is for m8e

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:10:00 2019 No.12651072 >>12651058 >dead spots >take a while to cool down and heat up We have induction now and it works great.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:10:33 2019 No.12651076

>>12651026
What a stupid article. The guy said nothing about the quality of that induction plate or how well it cooks compared to other more conventional methods. All he said was how pretty it looked when both on the wall and in use, and how convenient it is in a kitchen with no ranges at all.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:11:26 2019 No.12651081
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>>12650937
Honestly a good thing. I don't want to die because my neighbor is a retard, my other neighbor didn't call the authority before they started digging a hole, or a the utility company was a made a mistake in sending excess pressure through the line

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:13:56 2019 No.12651097 >>12650937 >coal powered electric

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:15:55 2019 No.12651108 >>12651081 >because their have never been electrical fires.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:17:15 2019 No.12651113

>>12651031
Transmission losses are minimal, and compensated for by local transformers.

The efficiency of resistance heaters depends more on the design of the stovetop and your cookware. Most stovetops (as well as things like baseboard heaters and laundry machines) across North American run off of 240 volts instead of 120 volts to reduce line current, and thus line losses.

Frankly, switching to completely electric homes is mostly just a matter of simplifying infrastructure. Rather than having to have an entire separate utility, with its own infrastructure, it's easier just to have a more rugged electrical grid. Damage to a gas main can lead to a massive loss of resources, where as damage to an electrical line actually takes load off the source. There are other convenience benefits to completely electric homes, mostly because the source of electrical power can be changed from older forms of power to more environmentally friendly ones, with absolutely no need to change things on the consumer's side.

Not that this matters where I live, because natural gas is a luxury, and most of our power is hydroelectric.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:17:38 2019 No.12651114 >>12651097 Gas cooking loses a lot of efficiency from much of the heat not transferring into the pan before the hot plume speeds past it. A single flat face isn't a very optimal thermal interface.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:18:10 2019 No.12651117

>>12650986
natural gas lines are a massive hazard in an earthquake especially in a low density residential context when you will have tons of pipes coming off of the main, and if any one of these fails you can have an explosive situation. So there is a theoretical reason for banning residential natural gas in tectonically active areas. They're probably doing it for GHG emissions though which is patently retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:22:08 2019 No.12651131 File: 285 KB, 3000x2774, Wadashla.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You can cook with tanks of gas all you want, you just can't have gas lines, and your dumbass neighbors won't have a gas stove by default.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:24:11 2019 No.12651137

>>12650960
Everywhere in Japan uses natural gas and earthquakes and they have literally 0 problems with this.
Your phone literally gives you 30sec warning of incoming earthquake, so you just turn it off (if it isnt already) before hiding under the table.

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:30:10 2019 No.12651158
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>>12650937
It's ok bro I've been dead inside for years.

That's when KFC was no longer finger lickin good anymore.
They switched to Canola oil to make healthy progressive fags that kept bitching about KFC not being healthy happy. KFC held out not giving a fuck what the healthfags wanted until the fags got Obama involved. Obama threatened to help ban KFC from poor neighborhoods because he thought that it was mostly poor people who ate KFC
>Making a law to not allow fast food joints in poor neighborhoods

KFC finally gave in, and switched oils. Now it taste like a ghost of it's former finger linking good self.
Obama fucked up KFC's shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:34:59 2019 No.12651183 >>12650978 >Berkeley >not run by SJW are you European or just retarded?

Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:36:15 2019 No.12651189

>>12651158
this is the heart of the problem. banning a serviceable utility under specious circumstances and bootlicking retards itt giving reasons why it's great(just buy more shit bro no biggie) when the 100% sole reason they did it was to "fight climate change". there was no other reason. it wouldn't have even been brought up for debate otherwise

those same people are the first to bitch about KFC and blame them for their quality going in the shitter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:38:37 2019 No.12651198 File: 35 KB, 640x437, Spots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are there actually decent electric ranges? Because the only ones I've worked with are these shitty over sized crack pipes like in pic related.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:47:35 2019 No.12651244 >>12651198 Yes, induction has been affordable for several years and heats much faster than gas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:51:27 2019 No.12651259 >>12650937 Yeah!? I'm gonna take that old coal-burning oven out of the basement in California, dust it off and burn coal day and night JUST BECAUSE! Enjoy your black lung, Berserkely hippy faggots!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:53:37 2019 No.12651267 >>12651259 There is nothing more alphachad than giving yourself cancer to own the libs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 17 23:59:03 2019 No.12651281 >>12650955 They hate anything other people enjoy.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:00:09 2019 No.12651288

>>12651244
left out the part where it's still more expensive though. induction will eventually take over, there's o need to artificially ban shit from existence that still has viability to it. little things like this done a million times over is why the middle class can't afford to live their and is fleeing it in droves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:02:30 2019 No.12651301 File: 6 KB, 212x237, 2Q==.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650937 Guess they'll have to ban beans next

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:03:04 2019 No.12651303 File: 236 KB, 1061x448, Gas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12651137 You don't even need to turn it off yourself, the gas meters can detect the earthquake and cut the flow automatically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:11:14 2019 No.12651341 It sucks so many people are compelled to live there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:12:53 2019 No.12651346 >>12651341 It's worth it to be far from your kind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:29:01 2019 No.12651426 >>12651346 Do you think Im right or left?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:32:24 2019 No.12651440 >>12651426 T W O S I D E S you heckin' bumpkin

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:35:34 2019 No.12651453 They still have gas hot water though right? They wouldn't force everyone in the city to live awful miserable lives with shit water, would they?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:38:38 2019 No.12651461 >>12651108 Electrical fire > Gas explosion

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:42:50 2019 No.12651468 >>12650978 It's a safe assumption with Berkeley

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:45:14 2019 No.12651475 >>12651031 Modern electronics are very efficient

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:47:40 2019 No.12651482 >>12650976 >PUG strats.png

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:47:56 2019 No.12651485 >>12651097 California's electricity is almost all hydroelectric. There is only one coal plant in the state.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 00:49:39 2019 No.12651488 >>12651038 Well memed!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:23:20 2019 No.12651756 Natty gas in the US is too cheap and abundant now because it’s a by-product of fracking. If this policy is somehow designed to boycott fracking then it’s pretty retarded. But they can’t ban gasoline I guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:33:01 2019 No.12651777 Americans can't cook anyway. Might as well ban kitchens altogether

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:33:59 2019 No.12651781
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>>12650937
As an electrician and certified solar installer and hobby chef that lives in California, this pisses me the fuck off. Every fucking time you rent a home in CA it's electric or induction. It is not as energy efficient as gas in the long run. It is not as good at cooking. You cannot control the heat as well as you can with gas. California has so many untapped gas deposits it's insane. Even if we don't want to do it, we can still import it from other states for bargain basement prices. The CA government fucks up time and time again, but this is just stupid. CH4 is good. Solar is a marketing ploy.

If you really want to be good to the environment, eat organic. Solar and wind don't mean shit. Just don't use coal and oil. Use natural gas. It's just that we need to force companies to cap their wells properly when they finish fracking. That's the only thing. Anyone who is worth a damn knows that Viking Stoves are GOAT. Every time I hear legislative news about CA, I want to move away even more. Anywhere but here. Anywhere but here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:39:41 2019 No.12651793 >>12650978 >Everyone I don't like is a far-right incel racist misogynist neo-nazi the motto of Berkeley

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:41:08 2019 No.12651799 File: 24 KB, 396x382, F2469843-F356-48A5-AA3A-B87FEBE22E4B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650938 >>12651012 >>12651058 >braindead flyover faggot that doesn‘t know what induction is tries smugposting

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 02:45:44 2019 No.12651806

>>12651799
No. You are absolutely wrong. All you are doing is posting an anime girl. You are not making any argument to the contrary. >>12651058 is right. You cannot understand the abject dystopia of California unless you live here. We are a sad, sad slave race.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:04:31 2019 No.12651852

>>12651485
>this old hydroelectric = clean meme where we pretend having giant shelves of limestone fucking up the watersheds thereby destroying downstream carbon sinks/wetlands and releasing massive amounts of co2/methane through erosion/poor reservoir management is a good thing

Can't wait until the Salton Sea's death drives all the stupid fucking LA scum out of the state.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:20:49 2019 No.12651893

>>12651244
Induction ranges sold in North America have dogshit reliability and cost fortune to repair. Very strange since plug-in single induction ranges work fine. Perhaps the tech isn't there yet to make the coils that can do high power output (>1500W) work reliably?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:24:42 2019 No.12651895

>>12651893
This. Anyone worth a damn on this board owns an enameled cast iron dutch oven and uses it most of the time. It's so heavy and sturdy that it could seriously damage any glass-covered induction cook top. In fact, I've seen many regular SS saucepans screw up an induction top. Induction was a good idea, a fun concept, but a poorly executed practicality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:41:06 2019 No.12651931 >>12651007 >stone pots u meme harder than liberals, and I applaud u

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:53:50 2019 No.12651966
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Boy I sure can't wait to ban stoves and burn even more coal and gas for the magic go go juice when we finally kill our last nuclear power plant.
I'm sure more solar on rooftops that produce no power during peak demand will totally alleviate our need for even more fossil fuels!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:57:08 2019 No.12651980 >>12651793 They aren't wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 03:59:54 2019 No.12651991 >>12650938 >I am too stupid to use induction

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:00:48 2019 No.12651993 >>12650955 gas stoves actually emit tons of fumes that are bad for you but keep huffing them to own the libs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:01:53 2019 No.12651997 >>12650989 >induction is faster anyway Yeah the speed is addictive. It is hard as fuck to back to anything else once you are used to induction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:05:48 2019 No.12652013 File: 433 KB, 832x1000, 1558226478655.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm a plumber and gasfitter. I probably know more about gas heating and cookers than anyone on this board. Ask me anything.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:09:49 2019 No.12652029

>>12651031
Like there is no loss in producing, laying and maintaining gas pipes and making and transporting and pumping the gas, and all the extra precautions you need to have in place. That doesnt count with electricity because you need it anyway in your living space.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:12:32 2019 No.12652040 >>12652013 Why is your union letting this happen?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:12:46 2019 No.12652041 >>12651108 A house with a gas range will still have electricity in 99.99% of all cases, retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:15:56 2019 No.12652051 This just in. We are no longer allowed to cook with heat. It is much safer this way. Only cooking with microwaves are allowed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:16:00 2019 No.12652052 >>12651993 >not holding your breath while cooking

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:20:44 2019 No.12652066

>>12651893
>Perhaps the tech isn't there yet to make the coils that can do high power output (>1500W) work reliably?
You cant go higher with portable tops in the US because you only have 110V in your houses. More power would need more Amperes which would toast the wiring in any normal house. In Germany we can plug 3500W induction tops and water kettles into any standard outlet. I have two 2000W portable induction tops, I have never had an issue with them. And honestly 2000W is all you need for normal cooking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:24:25 2019 No.12652075 >>12650976 Treating your population like children will only help to make them pedomorphed. UK is willingly extenguishing themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 04:33:14 2019 No.12652103 >>12650976 >11 years ago >still waiting for that precedent to manifest as a trend

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 06:39:13 2019 No.12652396
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>>12651081
>House looks like it's made of bricks
>It's actually made of wood and paper
Why do Americans do this?
Instead of spending 40 grand to build a house that's going to lose half its value every single year, why not spend 300 grand to build a house that only goes up in value, and that will still be part of your family's estate in 100 years?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:05:03 2019 No.12652441 >>12652396 Because the people who build the houses are developers and not residents.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:49:30 2019 No.12652525

>>12651058
>A flame heats both the bottom and sides of the pan and can be observed and adjusted instantly??
So what youre saying is it gets hot. Nice.
>coils get fucked to hell
Stop buying garbage quality
>gas is controllable
Physics, learn it sometime.
>Coils also take a while to cool down and heat up
Sure, on opposite day
>cant roast
Use a bbq or a torch

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:50:32 2019 No.12652528 >>12651806 California probably is shit, doesnt change the fact that there is virtually no difference between cooking on an electric or gas range for people who arent 60 IQ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:51:38 2019 No.12652529 >>12651895 Stop throwing your dutch oven and its not a problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:53:10 2019 No.12652535 >>12652041 its almost like putting the wiring in close proximity to a heat source increases the rate of failure. hmmmmm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 07:54:23 2019 No.12652540 >>12651001 but then we'll have more people posting on 4channel. it's already pretty crowded here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:04:07 2019 No.12652576 >>12651341 Lots and lots of people are moving out of California. Too bad they bring their "values" wherever they go and shit up the decent places.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:10:23 2019 No.12652593

>>12650976
Oh for fuck's sake!
The solution to that issue is to teach people when and how to use the extinguisher, not to ban the fucking device. Goddamn this fucking clown world, man.

>>12650966
Is that really why they're banning it? Because they think it's harder on the environment?
Fuck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:11:41 2019 No.12652596 >>12652593 i wish i was smarter than other people like u

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:14:43 2019 No.12652606 >>12651081 Guess you'll want cars outlawed as well, right? A lot more people getting killed with those.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:16:54 2019 No.12652609

>>12652593
Today I got a mug (at a promotion). There was a warning leaflet inside.
The part that hot drinks may scald you is an old story.
But did you know that if you tip the mug over, you risk spilling the contents?!!
Oh my, how could I remain ignorant of such a risk! I'm so glad they informed me!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:17:06 2019 No.12652610 >>12652606 Does anybody have to demonstrate that they can use gas responsibly before being given a license to use gas? Fucking retard. I hope you're dead before you find you, for your sake.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:20:56 2019 No.12652621
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>>12652596
You are. And you're not an arrogant asshole for acknowledging it.
Teaching people the basics of private firefighting takes a couple hours, and it's fun. Include it in the process of getting a driver's license along with CPR. That should work nicely.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:23:18 2019 No.12652627

>>12652610
I'll say it again; a LOT more people are killed with cars than with gas (since 1945 anyway) so it would seem the drivers aren't that fucking responsible either.
But yeah, I wouldn't hate the idea someone having to take a quick little safety course to get a gasline in his house. Wouldn't have to be State enforced either. It's in the interest of the gas company to keep things safe.

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>>12650937
Have you ever seen a Chef using anything but gas to properly cook???
You can shill induction all you want, i may also concede that it is more safe, but you can't cook like a boss on these things!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:24:48 2019 No.12652632 >>12650993 this always boggles me like people actually believe that giant made in china batteries good nuclear power bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:25:15 2019 No.12652635 >>12652610 Pretty sure you need a license to do electrician work

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:27:00 2019 No.12652641 >>12652628 But what about chernobyl! I watched the docudrama where that one woman figured out everything all by herself and saw how evil and awful nuclear power is!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:34:40 2019 No.12652661 >>12652632 the coal lobby propaganda campaign did extensive work to ensure that their only threat was killed off early

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:36:53 2019 No.12652673 >>12652641 ..what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:38:18 2019 No.12652676 File: 592 KB, 552x735, o.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12652066 Except that stoves and some other appliances use 240v

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:42:52 2019 No.12652688 >>12652013 What did you eat for breakfast this morning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:43:12 2019 No.12652691 >>12652628 Only one I can think of is Le Gavroche. I remember watching a video of Michel Roux Jr touring the kitchen and it had induction hobs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:46:47 2019 No.12652698 >>12650937 It's an incredibly wealthy place so who cares, they can cook by burning $100 bills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:46:59 2019 No.12652699 >>12650937 That’s fucking bullshit. Gas cooking is 100 times better than electric. Fuck Berkeley.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:48:43 2019 No.12652702 >>12652641 Based delusional /pol/tard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:50:13 2019 No.12652706 >>12650976 Why don’t they ban bathtubs to prevent drowning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:54:08 2019 No.12652712 >commiefornia Lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:56:31 2019 No.12652721 >>12651007 >heats the pot in bursts instead of continuously Hate that. More and more people are eating out and hardly ever use their stove. In the future people will view gas stoves like we view some outdated Victorian era contraption. Sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:58:54 2019 No.12652726 >>12650983 Yeah instead you have the grid which is made up of natural gas AND harmful rare Earth metal produced energy like nuclear and solar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:06:42 2019 No.12652759 >>12650990 Natural gas is a more efficient energy-to-heat conversion process than is electric heating

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:15:03 2019 No.12652786

>>12651781
Idk where the fuck you live in California (maybe la county or in the San Francisco area but in the inland Empire area of southernmost California all we have is gas, nobody uses electric or induction. I never actually saw any electric cooking appliances until I stood at my wife's parents house in west Covina and they had an electric stove.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:18:36 2019 No.12652798 >Civilized society >Berkeley Pick one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:29:44 2019 No.12652824 >>12652627 Your analogy is pointless. Cars have no substitute. Public transport can cover some usecases in some areas, but will never be a full-featured replacement to private vehicles. Gas on the other hand has no objective advantages over induction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:33:25 2019 No.12652833 >>12652676 That is a special high Ampere outlet, for washing machines, dryers and electric ranges and similar stuff. In Germany normal wall outlets like the two white ones on the left have 240V and are rated for 15 Amps for 3500W appliances.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:34:35 2019 No.12652836

>>12652676
And those are the ones breaking. Look up pretty much any induction range model sold in the U.S., and the reviews all scream about how many times they had to get the range replaced under warranty, and they're fearful of the repair costs when the warranty runs out. There is a widespread quality control problem out there on induction ranges sold in the U.S. It could be just that only GE and Frigidaire sells mainstream induction ranges under $2,000 in the U.S., and both companies are just shit at making induction stoves, and if you're rich enough to install Gaggenau induction cooktops, everything works perfectly and never breaks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:35:44 2019 No.12652842 >>12652786 I couldnt imagine using a gas stove with the temperatures at 110°F in the summer. Imagine how much energy your A/C sucks down just to get rid off all the incredible amount of waste heat gas generates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:39:04 2019 No.12652847 how many people die a year from gascooking related incidents in muttland?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:43:56 2019 No.12652865 >>12652842 it's not as bad as you think, and it's not that expensive to live here in the first place unless you live in Riverside, fuck that place though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:48:12 2019 No.12652877 >>12651893 Induction tops are such a meme here in the US because of that 1,500 watt restriction. Even compared to a regular coil electric stovetop, they suck complete ass. You can’t do shit with only 1,500 watts on induction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:54:33 2019 No.12652896 File: 172 KB, 827x707, 5244DC73-F865-44CD-9003-10F52250DF10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12652842 Should be cooking outside anyway, heh. sip

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:54:45 2019 No.12652897 >>12652702 stfu libtard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:55:18 2019 No.12652898 >>12652635 Same with someone who would have to install gas lines. However, you do not require a license to use the rather dangerous element of electricity despite needing a license to be an electrician.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:09:40 2019 No.12652944 >>12652847 Thousands. They're doing retarded shit all the time like leaving them on and giving themselves (more) brain damage, and blowing up entire apartment complexes constantly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:12:31 2019 No.12652955 >>12652896 nice weber, bro. You restore that yourself?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:44:08 2019 No.12653057 File: 1.61 MB, 3456x5184, 1524908028.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12652944 then its understandable I guess most laws exist because 20% are retards who would ruin it for everyone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:54:40 2019 No.12653089 >>12650937 the land of the free

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:58:41 2019 No.12653106

>>12653057
I used to think like you; there needs to be a nanny state to keep safe all the retards who would otherwise gas themselves or drown in puddles etc.
But eventually I started wondering why I wanted them kept alive. And then my bootlicking days were over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:59:01 2019 No.12653109 >>12653089 California isn’t the land of the free. It’s trying hard to emulate Yurop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:06:41 2019 No.12653139 >>12653106 >blowing up entire apartment complexes constantly you fucking retard, its because they endanger others

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:08:40 2019 No.12653148 >>12652609 And yet you know the only reason that's in there is because in tge past someone sued for that reason. 'But nobody TOLD me that if i tipped my mug it'd spill!'

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:09:19 2019 No.12653153 >>12653139 It's been asked already; should we outlaw cars as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:15:29 2019 No.12653183 >>12651793 kek. >>12651980 No, they are laughably wrong and have a very juvenile/cartoonish view of the world.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:15:29 2019 No.12653184
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>>12653153
we outlawed drunk driving, driving without a license or a seatbelt, driving without a registered car, going over the speed limit, driving with toxic or inflammable materials, driving with loads too heavy for a cars specifications, driving with broken lights, driving in the wrong direction, using flashy lights that could blend others, driving too close to somebody etc etc pp

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:16:58 2019 No.12653190 >>12652759 It's efficient at heating your kitchen. Much of it bypasses the cooking vessel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:19:08 2019 No.12653197 >>12650937 >(((berkeley)))

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:20:31 2019 No.12653203 >>12652528 >there is virtually no difference between cooking on an electric or gas range for people who arent 60 IQ. the IMMENSE irony of this statement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:21:18 2019 No.12653207 >>12652842 Air conditioners usually have a coefficient of performance of at least 200%, so it doesn't cost much. I still prefer not to have combustion products in my living space. I won't even burn candles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:22:53 2019 No.12653214 I'd rather be fucking dead than cook on electric. We're looking at homes in Littleton, CO, and even though ALL OF THE HOME HAVE GAS HEAT, THEY HAVE ELECTRIC RANGES. WHY. WHY THE FUCK IS THIS. ITS FUCKING RETARDED JUST RUN THE FUCKING PIPE

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:31:13 2019 No.12653241 >Crackheads steal copper pipes, causing gas explosions. >Clearly this is the fault of natural gas.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:35:31 2019 No.12653254
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Gas is shit at heating water, and you shouldn't be frying anyway. You can get high output portable gas burners to satisfy your autistic fixation, and the neighbors who live on autopilot won't blow you up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:36:02 2019 No.12653256 >>12653241 blaming those responsible for problems is not politically kosher right now, so they can't do that what is valid is blaming it on the popular propaganda piece of the year, which is currently climate change

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:37:04 2019 No.12653259 >>12653254 >ditch your gas, plebian. Trust the state, it’s for your own good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:37:42 2019 No.12653261 >>12650991 Any tricks to this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:39:14 2019 No.12653266 It's not like any of you chuckleheads could ever afford a house there, so what are you whinging about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:40:02 2019 No.12653271 >>12653266 Precedent

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:45:52 2019 No.12653293 >>12651991 Induction is a meme. It is good at a couple of things but sucks for the rest. Woks and other curvy pans will underperform with induction. Anything non ferrous simply doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:46:21 2019 No.12653296 Wait, how does this even work? I've always had an electric stove all my life, so I've never thought about this. But do you guys have to like, buy gas containers and put them under the stove, so the stove can access the gas?

>>	letmepost Thu Jul 18 11:47:39 2019 No.12653300 File: 263 KB, 429x405, uwotm8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12653296 >actually being this retarded cmon anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:48:12 2019 No.12653302 Someone who regularly eats fried food is too stupid to be trusted with gas, and frying is all it can do better. When I had a gas range, I had to get a separate hotplate for my pressure cooker because it took so long.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:49:14 2019 No.12653307 >>12653296 Urban and suburban areas are connected to the gas grid where such infrastructure is available...pretty basic stuff.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:52:16 2019 No.12653321

>>12653296
There's pipes feeding natural gas directly to appliances. Berkeley is banning the construction of new homes with gas lines so they don't need to deal with that shit. Anyone with an autistic fixation on gas stoves can still use tanks, like people do with their grills.

Rural folk often have a big propane tank outside for everything. Sometimes urban people do too. In Barcelona, there's an annoying gas vendor hitting a tank with a stick as he does his daily rounds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:52:38 2019 No.12653323 >>12653300 >>12653307 But isn't gas more valuable than electricity? That's the reason we build all these electric cars, because we are running out of gas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:55:43 2019 No.12653333 >>12653323 natural gas is not the same as gasoline

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:56:09 2019 No.12653335 >>12653323 They are building electric cars because hipsters are willing to buy them. Gas is a byproduct of oildrilling. It's basically free for the gas companies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:08:13 2019 No.12653381 >>12650982 Nail on the head. Progressive professionals don't cook, ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:17:31 2019 No.12653400 >>12653261 >Any tricks to this? Go into store, buy induction top and induction capable cookware, use induction ...?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:19:39 2019 No.12653409 >>12653293 Woks are retarded anyway. All the stuff gets bunched up in the center and boils in its own juices. They do nothing that you cant do much better in a flat bottomed pan, except maybe make huge portions and toss the food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:29:53 2019 No.12653446 >>12653256 >Climate change. I would have figured with the current propaganda that they would be blaming Trump or Russia for natural gas even existing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:31:36 2019 No.12653456 4ailchanners shouldn't be trusted with natural gas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:32:48 2019 No.12653464 >>12650938 >why are you on a cooking board if you prefer cooking on a board? missed opportunity bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:37:46 2019 No.12653482 >>12652833 You just repeated what I said, except you also contradicted your earlier statement that they "only have 110v"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:45:35 2019 No.12653520 File: 160 KB, 1188x770, 651.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650937 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:47:41 2019 No.12653530 mAh gas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:48:58 2019 No.12653537 File: 407 KB, 1260x1782, 1536898817165.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650937 >Natural Gas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:56:23 2019 No.12653575 >>12653323 We’re not running out of anything petroleum related in muttland. In a year or two, we’ll be self sufficient when it comes to oil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:57:31 2019 No.12653582 >>12653575 Who told you that? Why do you believe that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:18:57 2019 No.12653659 >>12653582 it's not 1975, you can basically wonder the heart of flyover land with a pair of boots and stumble onto an oil job https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Becomes-Net-Oil-Exporter-For-First-Time-In-75-Years.html#

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:20:45 2019 No.12653664 >>12652396 >t. No understanding of real estate markets

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:20:49 2019 No.12653665 >>12653659 That's always been the case. Why do you believe we'll use it to be independent? What reason do you have to believe we'll stop doing business with OPEC

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:23:16 2019 No.12653670 >>12650955 Orange man said he likes it so using natural gas is now racist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:24:41 2019 No.12653676 >>12650937 do americans really do this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:26:15 2019 No.12653684 >>12652688 Avacado toast

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:27:08 2019 No.12653686 >>12653676 I noticed in Spain the gaseous fuels lacked odorants. Do Europeans really do that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:28:30 2019 No.12653687 >>12653684 bumpkin can't spell a common vegetable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:31:38 2019 No.12653705 >>12653686 all spanish natural gas and butane gas has mercaptans as odorants. maybe you are smelling something else in america?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:34:50 2019 No.12653718 >>12653575 >>12653659 I don't get it. Why do you insist on terrorizing the world for their oil reserves then? You even pester Germany about making oil deals with Russia. Like, why do you even care?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:37:36 2019 No.12653728 File: 31 KB, 403x403, 1466588212786.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12653687 >vegetable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:39:09 2019 No.12653737 >>12653728 Only monoglots are prescriptivist melvins about this sort of thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:40:20 2019 No.12653746 >>12653728 Culinarily, an avocado is a vegetable the same way a tomato is, even though they're both fruiting bodies. Botanically, all plants are vegetable in nature. Great work on the weak dick semantics and generic cat picture though

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:41:44 2019 No.12653752

>>12653718
>he thinks it's about the oil specifically
lmao
it's about control, you silly goose
The petrodollar is a system that forces all purchases of oil to be made in US dollars
this then mandates a perpetual demand for US dollars, giving it it's titanic value
this is the reason why the US is able to stand with over 20 trillion in debt, but not ease up an inch on their welfare programs for nigs

This system requires an extremely powerful military, however, since if the US was weak, some other power could just muscle in and declare that they should be the ruler of this petrodollar system, and gain the same prosperity the US did

The US losing petrodollar status would result in the dollar dropping to rock bottom in value in a matter of fucking hours, and annihilate the US economy in a manner worse than has ever been seen
amusingly, due to globalism and globalization, the US economy collapsing, or any major nation's economy, would immediately cause a domino effect on all the other world economies, and give the world Great Depression 2: electric boogaloo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:44:22 2019 No.12653767 >>12653737 I agree, but the faggot did choose to make a post only to point out a spelling error.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:47:33 2019 No.12653787

>>12650937
This is retarded. I don't have a gas stove myself, but my furnace and water tank both use gas. It's insanely cheaper than electric, and at the end of the day honestly better for the environment than the amount of electricity needed to do the same thing.

Like banning controlled burns and then suffering endless forest fires, liberals are short-sighted reactionary morons.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:50:50 2019 No.12653807

>>12653752
>The US losing petrodollar status would result in the dollar dropping to rock bottom in value in a matter of fucking hours, and annihilate the US economy in a manner worse than has ever been seen

Petrodollar status is not a binary thing where when it finally flips over one day, and everything suddenly changes. U.S. Dollar has been steadily losing "petrodollar" status since the early 2000s with the emergence of Euro and later with resurgent China. More and more oil producers are willing to accept payments in Euro or Yuan, especially Iran which now sells most of their oil to China.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:51:49 2019 No.12653812 >>12653787 Berkeley doesn't need furnaces. The record low is 25 freedoms, and it's rarely below 40, so a small heat pump is all that's needed. Running gas lines just for showers seems like an unnecessary hassle.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:54:10 2019 No.12653825

>>12653812
>Running gas lines just for showers seems like an unnecessary hassle
Not just showers, it's for stoves, furnaces, and water heaters (all your hot water). Is natural gas to homes not a standard thing in Commiefornia? Here it's standard, like water, electric, cable, or phone lines.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:55:26 2019 No.12653829 >guys we don’t NEED gas anymore, so let’s just make it illegal Can we do the same with racists?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:03:12 2019 No.12653867 >>12653825 What are cable and phone lines?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:04:43 2019 No.12653873 >>12653867 For cable TV and landline phones (which you should keep in case of power outage, as traditional phones will still work that way unpowered, and can be used to contact emergency services even without a plan).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:06:27 2019 No.12653877 >>12653873 wtfrick is cable tv? Is that like netflix?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:12:41 2019 No.12653899

>>12653877
I can't tell if you're just shitposting or not because I've worked with kids who honest to God didn't know what a coax cable is, so I'll explain anyway.

Cable TV is a subscription service, identical to satellite TV except instead of fetching a signal with a home dish, it recieves one at a central hub and the signal is then sent to homes in an area via physical cables, either buried or along power lines. In the home, you connect the cable line to either a reciever box, or directly to your TV. Then based on your subscription (think cell phones, Netflix, et al) you get a certain amount of channels, anywhere from ~20 to ~1000+. With that you can watch different channels, which show pre-determined programming interspersed with commercials. There are some specialty channels, bus most are general interest.

A good alternative is using an antenna, which captures over the air (OTA) signal to show channels broadcast locally. If you have a newer TV, you can hook up the antenna directly to your TV, and it will decode the signal for you, without need for a separate box. Most channels are broadcast in full digital HD now, but there are a few in more rural areas still in analog (think fuzzy picture, old CRT TV).

Hope that helps clear things up, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:33:41 2019 No.12653972 >>12653899 "wtfrick" wasn't enough for you to know they're funposting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:36:41 2019 No.12653978 >>12653972 Never know, man. Plus I've got nothing going on, and if they're underage or foreign and honestly just clueless it doesn't help anything to shitpost back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:39:16 2019 No.12653985 >>12653873 >>12653899 I hope you feel better now that your little rant is over

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:40:04 2019 No.12653987 >>12653985 Do you even know what a rant is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:40:41 2019 No.12653992 >>12653985 not me btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:41:51 2019 No.12653997 >>12652721 nah, i believe most restaurants will keep using gas for decades to come, as they far superior

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:44:03 2019 No.12654004 regular electric < gas < induction

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:52:15 2019 No.12654031 >>12651007 at that point why don't you just cook over open fire in your yard if you care about "controlling the temperature" so much you fucking virgin lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:57:31 2019 No.12654050 >>12650955 The ultimate goal of leftism is complete control over all aspects of your private life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:07:03 2019 No.12654074 >>12650937 >american...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:07:49 2019 No.12654078 >>12650937 so we finally use braap gas in cooking purposes ? i must inform /d/

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:35:03 2019 No.12654204

>>12654050
Correct. The irony of a lot of idiots screaming "fascist" is that fascism is inherently a leftist philosophy. Most people have no idea what the word means, though the ones desperate to attack their own government while glorifying their personal political leader are getting warmer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:35:32 2019 No.12654207 You can’t make proper Chinese food without gas. Wok hei.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:53:10 2019 No.12654329

>>12652628
At the pastry kitchen we use induction. But because you can buy small ones that you connect to the wall, set on top of your table and put away when finished. Gas is always used at the hot kitchen for everything, the range of temperature is ridiculous when compared to induction, the only thing induction is better at is boiling water

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:55:54 2019 No.12654337 >>12651799 >anime poster is retarded autist and water is wet

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:57:24 2019 No.12654345 >>12654329 Heating watery liquids is all you should be doing on a stove. If you're stupid enough to eat food cooked in oil, you're too stupid to be trusted with gas.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:58:46 2019 No.12654352

>>12653296
In Mexico you can buy tall gas tanks. People usually buy one and when they run out (monthly for a family of 4) you either call the gas company of catch one of the trucks that do patrol around the city selling gas. They simply swap your empty tank with a full one. In my old house we had a stationary tank that only needed to be filled twice a year, we called the gas company and they would come with a special truck and fill it. We now live at an apartment and we are connected to a gas line, we just pay every month what we consumed, like electricity or water

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:58:57 2019 No.12654354 >>12652726 >nuclear and solar >harmful t. Exxon shill

>>	OP Thu Jul 18 15:59:51 2019 No.12654360 land of the free

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:06:06 2019 No.12654394 >>12654345 >if you don't eat food how I say you should, you're dumb dank shitpost

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:07:10 2019 No.12654399 >>12654394 How many weeks since you ate something green, shart?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:14:33 2019 No.12654440 >>12653254 >youre either boiling water or frying something in a pan alright buddy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:14:49 2019 No.12654442 >>12650982 What? Tons of foodie cooking types live in berkeley

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:15:24 2019 No.12654446 >>12654399 >he's never sauteed vegetables lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:15:52 2019 No.12654449 >>12654446 Fat people don't eat vegetables.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:21:36 2019 No.12654482 >>12654449 That's just not true. You can eat vegetable and still be fat if you eat too much and don't exercise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:23:05 2019 No.12654487 >>12654345 >Wh*te people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:23:13 2019 No.12654489 >>12654482 Not eating vegetables doesn't make them fat, but being fat stops them eating vegetables.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:25:11 2019 No.12654499 >>12654449 >>12654489 fat people absolutely eat vegetables. Have you ever worked in a kitchen before??

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:25:15 2019 No.12654500 >>12654489 Explain, in as much detail and with as much effort as possible, how being fat stops someone from eating any kind of vegetable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:26:41 2019 No.12654504 >>12654500 Being the kind of person who gets fat and stays fat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:27:21 2019 No.12654513 >>12654504 What do you mean? Please explain more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:32:38 2019 No.12654526 >>12654504 lol what a fucking idiot

>>	Smug !!+dHR5gaZraZ Thu Jul 18 16:46:26 2019 No.12654593 >>12651198 What is going on in this picture

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:01:42 2019 No.12654694 >>12652051 It's the American way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:06:39 2019 No.12654710 >>12650977 Have fun waiting for your gay glass to heat up retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:09:36 2019 No.12654726 >>12650991 I've only had this problem with my tea kettle, otherwise it's not that noticable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:40:03 2019 No.12654840 >>12654710 dumb fucking impatient zoomer, you deserve to get blown up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:59:45 2019 No.12654930 >>12654710 That's the only bad kind of electric. Old coils and new induction are both great if you know what you're doing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:03:29 2019 No.12654947 >>12651781 >Anywhere but here. Anywhere but here. You'd move to Flint, Michigan?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:14:04 2019 No.12654989

>>12652576
This is extremely misleading. There is net migration for uneducated and poor people, but for bachelor's and above there is net immigration to California. All the "libs" (intelligent educated wealthy people) aren't leaving at all

Basically the people leaving California are the ones who simply can't compete so go to the nearest drumpfville, and the intelligent and successful people in drumpfville are leaving to go to California probably cause of far more opportunities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:46:04 2019 No.12655933 I absolutely hate cooking on electric stoves. Cooking without a flame just feels wrong and retarded. How can people willingly go from gas stove to electric? I can understand electrucks if they have never used gas before at least

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:00:21 2019 No.12655979 >>12650937 Natural gas is cheaper as a heat source than pretty much any other fuel supply by a wide margin. >t. operates a natural gas utility

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:21:16 2019 No.12656352 >>12653409 Those reasons are pretty good reasons to get a wok

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:22:04 2019 No.12656359
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>>12650937
>Sorry gascucks, your antiquated way of cooking is no longer allowed in civilized society.
IT'S NOT FAIR, DELETE THIS! NATURAL GAS IS SAFER AND MORE ECO FRIENDLY!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:09:24 2019 No.12656611 >>12650955 >They hate coal >They hate fission >They hate methane >They even hate wind Do these cunts have any idea how power is generated

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:34:36 2019 No.12656738 >>12651781 Viking is a piece of shit stove. Been really happy with American Range. Induction is crack/snap city. Electric is trash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:51:03 2019 No.12656797 >>12653261 Set the flame lower so it's hitting the underside of the pot rather than the sides.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:53:29 2019 No.12656807 hydrogen will be the new cooking gas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:58:52 2019 No.12656822 >>12650937 Annex the west coast already, nothing of value will be lowest.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:03:09 2019 No.12656835
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>>12650955
In civilized society we don't huff dinosaur farts or cook with them either because it is 2019 and fossil fuels are deader than dino.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:23:48 2019 No.12656921

>>12652029
He's talking about transmission loss, not resources required to install a gas system. Transmission loss refers to how voltage can drop when sent over very long distances through wire. Plus it has to be 'treated' through many stages by the time it ends up flowing out of your outlet at a smooth consistent 120v/10A 50Hz A/C.
Natural gas doesn't lose potency over distance and it doesn't have to be managed to such an intense standard as electricity. Towns and cities have to maintain teams of overseers and monitoring personnel 24 hours a day to watch the current load in all areas of the city and make constant flow adjustments at peak and off peak times to ensure that the current and voltage remain in spec.
If the flow of natural gas coming out of your stove is a few percent more or less than the night before you won't notice. If your electricity increases by 10 or 15 volts then many of your sensitive electronics will go into a failsafe mode or their power supplies will be destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:27:01 2019 No.12656932 File: 159 KB, 650x600, 1514744854822.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12652525 one of the worst posts I've seen in my whole time on 4channel. congratulations

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:30:01 2019 No.12656941 >>12651158 what did they use before canola oil?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:31:19 2019 No.12656944 >>12656932 cope

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:34:29 2019 No.12656953 File: 1.10 MB, 205x223, 1511595632236.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12654989 As someone that lived in California recently, I've never seen someone type so hard right out of their ass like that. It's almost amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:40:45 2019 No.12656966 >>12654345 basically every form of cooking uses some type of oil, with the exception of blanching or boiling vegetables, which is by far and away the most bland and uninteresting way to cook literally anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:44:00 2019 No.12656970 >>12651288 these articles are sensationalized, gas ovens arent banned its just now new apartments/homes need to have electric/induction ovens. No one is going to force people to give up thier old ovens

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:45:24 2019 No.12656972 File: 325 KB, 1200x881, 1500911590337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12656944 >posts 5 arrogant non-arguments >tells someone else to cope

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:53:06 2019 No.12656995 >>12656822 *lost

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:14:09 2019 No.12657056 Why? It's much faster than electric.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:15:25 2019 No.12657061

>>12652396
>Americans
>Actually having a family
>A fucking estate, like lol nigga wtf
>Kept in the family for generations
We are Brazil except powerful, but we do not have this kind of future that you are thinking of.
t. No family or future having mutt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:21:29 2019 No.12657085 File: 727 KB, 628x1021, 1560037608743.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650937 Our Patience Has Its Limits SEIG HEIL ! SEIG HEIL ! SEIG HEIL !

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:55:18 2019 No.12657175 >>12656966 None of my cooking involves oil, you ducking normie. My stove rarely gets used for anything but heating a pressure cooker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:07:50 2019 No.12657858 >>12656966 Baking. Also, checked

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:17:43 2019 No.12657883 >>12650937 but y tho its clean burning

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:21:03 2019 No.12657889 >>12657175 Microwaves detected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:22:19 2019 No.12657895 >>12657883 Idiocracy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:35:28 2019 No.12657920 This is retarded, wtf.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:40:58 2019 No.12657934 >>12651076 I think the title alone was a dead giveaway about said "articles" quality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:43:27 2019 No.12657941 >>12651061 I hope you are using an electric kitchen torch that doesn't use gas, it's uncivilized.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:46:42 2019 No.12657949 >>12657941 My brother, the zoomer, bought an electric weed burner for his driveway. It's awful and it looks like a big hairdryer. And there's no damn way in hell it's more energy efficient than a gas one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:46:46 2019 No.12657950 I've always been afraid of accidentally leaving the gas on and gassing myself in my sleep. Electric master race

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:51:48 2019 No.12657963 >>12653214 really? the whole city? doesn’t that vary by suburb? t. grew up in multiple different houses in highlands ranch (nuke that fucking city please) and only one used electric

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:54:38 2019 No.12657972 >>12657949 Gas is a nazi thing, so you should feel ashamed and use electric things, they are green because I can recharge the batteries. Also, gas is sometimes made with dead animals, so it's not vegan. Just kidding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:58:47 2019 No.12657981 File: 36 KB, 118x151, 1549647028649.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12650937 >Berkeley >civilized society

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:02:09 2019 No.12657988 >>12651058 >coils take a while to cool down Just take the pan off the fucking coil then you tard holy shit. I don't get why people can't simply learn to use an electric stove, once you learn how it works you can cook fine

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:10:17 2019 No.12658002 File: 197 KB, 380x400, 1562953983844.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12657988 >I don't get why people can't simply learn to use clearly inferior cooking appliances, once you learn how they work you can cook fine

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:11:59 2019 No.12658007 >>12650937 this unironically is bearish for natgas, someone start a thread on /biz/

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:17:01 2019 No.12658017

>>12658002
electric stoves are shit but if they’re never going to fuck up a recipe on one unless you’re truly fucking retarded
what kind of michelin star jacque pepin bullshit are you trying to accomplish on a stovetop anyways? i dont even have a problem making shit like bechamel or caramelized onions on my busted ass coil stove. most of you chromosome hoarders are just trying to sear meat/brown some mince or boil water 99% of the time, its like you’re complaining about your prius’s inability to drift consistently in the rain while you only ever use it as a daily commuter to your wage cage

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:18:31 2019 No.12658018 >>12658017 >electric stoves are shit and gas stoves aren't. That's why I prefer gas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:35:46 2019 No.12658043 Good Imagine wanting to turn your house into a bomb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:38:06 2019 No.12658057 Maybe finding one of those old time wood-burning stoves would be a good idea. Then again, California seems to have issues with not going up in flames. Hmmmm, a quandry......

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:45:52 2019 No.12658090 >>12658017 >most of you chromosome hoarders are just trying to sear meat/brown some mince or boil water 99% of the time Sounds like projection to me, senpai

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:53:10 2019 No.12658124
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>>12658057
those things heat up their surroundings like a motherfucker
the heat is also irregular at best and quite hard to control
they are the shit regardless especially here in the north

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:56:16 2019 No.12658137 >>12654050 Corporate 'Murika is already doing a good job of controlling the sheeple via marketing and fake news.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:03:08 2019 No.12658150 >>12658137 that corporate jewish trickery also occurs across the pond, Eurotrash this shit ain't unique

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:20:52 2019 No.12658207 >>12657963 Fucking feels like it. We've narrowed it down to 10 homes, and only one of them has a gas ranch. We arent even considering Highlands Ranch because the HOA covenants make it like Nazi fuckin Germany. Or that weird episode of X-files

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:32:05 2019 No.12658235 >>12651993 >Ah, I'll take common kitchen features for 200 alex >"This low hanging, humming metal apparatus is most likely right above your stovetop" >What is a Range Vent? >"Correct"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:37:14 2019 No.12658258 >>12650955 Oy vey

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:47:36 2019 No.12658293 >>12658137 Crazy how the left turned super big business and pro corporate consumerism, huh? Megacorps like Alphabet, Disney, etc own the left and it's blatant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:52:09 2019 No.12658308 >>12655979 At COP 4 electricity can just about compete with gas for heating at commiefornia prices. Of course you need a house designed for heat pump heating to get COP 4 at lower temperatures and below freezing it's just plain out of reach.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 12:16:45 2019 No.12658604 >>12654593 Hot knives. It's how we used to smoke hash. And by used to I mean I smoke hash off electric stoves as often as I can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 12:51:47 2019 No.12658724 >>12650978 Berkeley is a known SJW shithole, and also banning things is what SJWs live for.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 12:56:14 2019 No.12658748 >>12653482 No, I didnt. Those US 240V outlets are for major appliances. they cant be used with electric kettles, induction tops or similar stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 13:35:56 2019 No.12658915 >>12658748 >tfw no compact 240V outlets in every room for regular everyday use

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:11:17 2019 No.12659028 >>12652593 >! Boomer begone

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:19:34 2019 No.12659070

>>12650966
>Do they not realize the increased electric grid usage will more than make up for any emissions savings from people using gas stoves?

Cooking isn't really relevant emission wise, but your bullshit is still bullshit.

Induction puts around 10x more heat into a pan than a gas burner per kWh, you can easily swallow the generation and transmission losses.

Gas hobs are room heaters more than pan heaters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:41:10 2019 No.12659178 >>12654050 It's only to protect us from racism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:54:01 2019 No.12659232 >>12659070 I can't use my copper pots on induction therefore they are useless. >just get a hotplate bro Why should I have to bother with hotplates when gas does it's job with no fuss?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:59:17 2019 No.12659245 >>12650966 What is, hydroelectric, aeroelectric, nuclear, and geothermal power sources for 100? Also, depending on your electric company, the source burning a fuel source could be more efficient than you simply burning gas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 15:04:38 2019 No.12659267 >>12658724 >only dumb libtards want to ban things! >We need to ban immigration, abortions, homosexuality, minorities and other things I don't like. Nice one Cleetus.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 15:16:25 2019 No.12659311
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>>12650966
electrifying the cooking systems will reduce the footprint, but not entirely eliminate it, you’re ofc correct. unless the grid is powered by renewables, which berkely plans to do

>>12650955
natural gas from houses makes up 27% of Berkely’s emissions, equivalent to 20 million gallons of gas per year.

berkely also plans on having their grid be powered by 100% renewables by 2035, so electrifying as much as possible beforehand seems smart.

like what >>12651007 and everybody else is saying though, electric stoves can and should be better. right meow they function like microwaves and just go from 0 to 100 over and over at a pace that averages out to your setting.

somebody design a better electric range and take all my money.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:00:32 2019 No.12659481

>>12659311
>berkely also plans on having their grid be powered by 100% renewables by 2035, so electrifying as much as possible beforehand seems smart.
Actually, restricting generation and significantly increasing load simultaneously in a short period of time is not smart at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:17:32 2019 No.12659576 File: 50 KB, 983x376, kmZzM03[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12658724 >>12659267 Banning things in general is the action of brainlets on any hard left or right side of the spectrum. AKA most people on 4chan.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:22:29 2019 No.12659596

>>12659481
It's just a question of money and will. California has plenty of mountain ranges and deserts. Fill the deserts with solar panels, fill the mountains with pumped hydro ... then fill the valleys with all the dead hippies needed to do both.

Technically California might be able to get carbon neutral by 2035, realistically no way in hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:43:07 2019 No.12659689 >>12658293 And megacorps own the right, too. That's nothing new.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 17:14:23 2019 No.12659832 >farting is not allowed anymore

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