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12621222 No.12621222 [Reply] [Original]

Nathan of Nathan’s MREs got raided by the USDA for possibly illegal possession of foreign MREs. Here’s film of the raid:
https://youtu.be/gaynAEWfU-s

And his reaction afterward:
https://youtu.be/rpYU4I4iIUk

He’s guessing that other MRE YouTubers either already have been raided or will be soon, and that this may end up killing off MRE YouTube as a genre.

What do you think, anons? Have the feds gone too far this time? Is this a wise use of tax money and federal agency time? Will it get harder to import not just foreign MREs, but all kinds of foreign foods soon?

>> No.12621235

>>12621222
overblowing the situation on both ends. though I can see how quickly the gov could escalate, it's unlikely it'll amount to anything

>> No.12621262

>>12621222
I dont care. I wouldnt pull a hair for "mre YouTube" lmao.

>> No.12621268

>>12621262
>First they came for the MRE YouTubers...

>> No.12621284

I can understand both sides of the story. Him trying to make money, and the usda saying you’re eating unidentified Chinese mystery meat. What if you contract botulism or some shit.

>> No.12621296

>>12621235
It's just petty bullshit bean counters fucking with people's lives for a paycheck. How about they go to the Mexican markets and fuck with the illegals selling tamales out of a cooler?

>> No.12621299

>>12621268
>anti natsoc propaganda

>> No.12621305

>>12621284
The usda can't stop you from poisoning yourself, only selling poison and kinder eggs to other people.

>> No.12621308

>>12621296
>It's just petty bullshit bean counters fucking with people's lives for a paycheck.
Now we see how the world works. How would you reliably police against behavior like this, bullshit work for easy pay, across all industries?

>> No.12621371 [DELETED] 

>>12621308
Kill every last hebrew

>> No.12621376

>>12621222

oh no no how could trump do this bros

>> No.12621380

>>12621371
You wish, but then you lot would end up doing the same thing

>> No.12621389

>>12621376
Trump is not nice.

>> No.12621471

>>12621380
Why would a national socialist government prevent someone from reviewing rations?

>> No.12621495

>>12621471
It wouldn't, I was asking anon how outlier cases of people going after petty matters with petty excuses instead of doing their jobs and they gave the low effort "kill muh boogeyman" response. Who do you think I meant when I said "you lot"? Certainly not the Jewish.

>> No.12621498

>>12621495
>how outlier cases of people going after petty matters with petty excuses instead of doing their jobs
*would be policed

>> No.12621499

So basically those "internet people" are retarded. He's not selling anything.

>> No.12621514

>>12621495
Makework positions for idiots would be eliminated as they're unhealthy for the nation.

>> No.12621556

>>12621514
It's not about work positions. The man in OP has a job. It's about the things that either he decides or is told to go after. And this case in ended up being petty BS because MRE dude wasn't selling shit. But regardless people get riled up about this. So I ask how you would stop or prevent these edge cases of dumb investigations from even occuring in the first place. Assuming the agency otherwise does a fairly good job of catching actual misconduct

>> No.12621581

>>12621268
Shut the fuck up retard.

>> No.12621590

>>12621222
>one tired inspector sent out to investigate a complaint is a raid

Get this clickbait bullshit outta here.

>> No.12621632

>>12621590
20thpbp

>> No.12621642

oi m8 you got yer MRE loiscense?

>> No.12621655

>>12621581
Shut up baby dick lmao

>> No.12621675
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>>12621655
damn.. this one really hurts..

>> No.12621678

>>12621675
I’m sorry friend. I went too far

>> No.12621693

>>12621222
based trump btfo these ration soyboys

>> No.12621759

>>12621678
no man it's okay I'm used to it..

>> No.12621855

>>12621222

>our internet people

stupid bureaucrats
I hope that idiot steps on a lego

>> No.12621857

>>12621222
It is stated right at the start of the video that the raid was based on an accusation of him selling them.

>> No.12621914

>>12621284
>>12621305
There's also a quarantine risk. Anyone who imported foreign MRE's into Australia would get assblasted if they ever got discovered by the Government.

>> No.12621924

>>12621914
They're a designed to be totally sterile to prolong shelf life. The quarantine risk is no greater than any other parcel being imported from a foreign nation.

>> No.12621947

>>12621924
Food products can never be fully sterile and the longer a product is stored the less sterile they will get. And we're talking about people who trade shit from as far back as the 1940's all over the world. How many times does Steve open something up that the packaging is completely destroyed, cans eaten through by rust and has to get out his gas mask.
It also wouldn't be just the food itself that can cause a problem. There could be insects or eggs that get stuck in the packaging that get away, the person handling the products might have their own diseases or bacteria that they transfer to the products.

>> No.12621952
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12621952

Isn't it frightening that a government agency can track down and monitor a small Youtube channel, then send an agent to a home address without any due process and start questioning people on their property?

>> No.12621966

>>12621952
>track down and monitor a small Youtube channel
didn't they get a tipoff?

>> No.12621992

>>12621952
He could probably have called the cops to escort the man away. He does not have to answer any questions. In some states he would be allowed to shoot the guy unless he leaves his property. You should never talk to police or authorities, at least without a lawyer present.

>> No.12621995

>>12621222
>berating some low-level functionary
>"What do you have to say to the viewers"
Holy fucking autism

>> No.12622004

>>12621947
You're right anon, America should never import anything at all. We should all switch to bitcoin too, who knows where your cash has been previously? You might get sick and can't provide more money for big dick daddy government!

>> No.12622005

>>12621947
Not him, but again, this can happen with literaly any parcel.

>> No.12622007

>>12621992
>Local man suspected of selling government rations shoots senile 80 year old USDA worker

I thought this board was full of fags - guess not.

>> No.12622010

>>12621966
Yes. I tipped them off.
I'm trying to get all of these stupid "MRE" channels shut down.

>> No.12622026

>>12621992
>I don't talk to the Government without my lawyer. Please leave my property. Thank you.
USDA Bernie would have walked off without a complaint and fired it up the chain for the next person to deal with.

>> No.12622035

>>12621952
What makes you think they didn't follow due process? He wasn't arrested, didn't have his house searched, he just got a visit from an unarmed inspector who I doubt was a "federal agent" based on publicly visible records.

>> No.12623085
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>>12621222
>raided
> 1 old guy

>> No.12623164

>>12622010
Based Steve , eliminating the competition

>> No.12623182

>>12621947
>Food products can never be fully sterile

Autoclaving works perfectly well. Even in spore form liveforms need far more complex (and thus fragile) molecules than what's required just for the structural integrity of food.

>> No.12623195

>>12621952
If a law enforcement officer tries to come on your property w/o a warrant, he has to leave if you so order. Even if he has a warrant you aren't required to answer any questions and in fact should not do so w/o an attorney present.

>> No.12623199

>>12623195
>Even if he has a warrant you aren't required to answer any questions and in fact should not do so w/o an attorney present.

This is how you get cops to fuck you over if they can. Help them out and they'll help you out.

>> No.12623222

>>12623199
Ew, they sound like creeps

>> No.12623297

>>12623199
>help us out and we won't fuck you over
Cops are such trash.

>> No.12623367

>>12623199
Holy shit, never do this. USE YOUR RIGHT TO A FUCKING ATTORNEY.
t. Lawyer.

>> No.12623535

>>12623367
The right to an attorney is a privilege, not a right.

>> No.12623558
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>>12621222
Technically they’re not legal for individual and sometimes private sale. But who literally gives a fuck; there’s some retards selling military equipment every fucking day.

>> No.12623561

>muh ecelebs
Zoomer trash

>> No.12623566

>>12623199
t. Officer McSnitchy

>> No.12623574

>>12621855
Reddit>>12621857

>> No.12623578
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>>12621222
Is he alright /ck/?

>> No.12623601
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12623601

Absolute fucking bullshit.

>> No.12623660

I'm mad because it's such a pointless invasion of privacy. If they were trading shit like foreign grenades for a YouTube channel I could at least see the inherent danger. It's not an abuse of power, but a flagrant misuse to bother with such an absolute nothing.

>> No.12623682

>>12623660
And your taxes are paying for it.
Goddamn, I hate Government.

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>>12621947
>who trade shit from as far back as the 1940's
pleb af

>> No.12623724

>>12623199
Probably a bait poster, but i'll bite:

That is what Miranda rights are for you fucking absolute boot licking faggot. If they deliberately try to fuck you over for exercising your rights and actually defending yourself, they should all get fired. They aren't supposed to operate like some unprofessional gang. Now go back to your beat and catch drug dealers or something.

>> No.12623740

>>12623535
Nope. The Miranda supreme court decision made it a right, not a privelege. If it can be proven the authorities withheld that right, the criminal charges will be thrown out.

>> No.12623743

>>12623724
But they ARE an unprofessional gang, just a government sanctioned one with a license to kill.

>> No.12623753

>>12621296
>quit restaurant that keeps chicken for two fucking weeks and uses the rotten chicken for deep-frying because it's less offensive there
>keeps the raw vegetables underneath it
>USDA is worried a guy that reviews MREs
For fuck sakes how about you guys reign in health inspectors.

>> No.12623800

>>12623753
Did you tell anyone?
How do you expect anyone to do anything about grossly illegal hygienic practices, if you're helping keep it a secret?

>> No.12623834

>>12623800
It's okay anon... they're gone now.

>> No.12624119

>>12621222
LAND OF THE FREE MEANS NO MRE

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xD

>> No.12624157

>>12623199
Oi dat's a nice clean criminal record, squire. Shame if somethin' happened to it

>> No.12624419

>>12623199
>Hmm, let me give up my Constitutional rights because I'm scared the meanies will hurt my feefees
This is how we get to a post 2016 status quo.

Enjoy the flavor of boot polish!

>> No.12625109

>>12623297
>>help us out and we won't fuck you over
> proceeds to fuck you over after cooperating
Based hero officer please let me take a knee to suck your dick!

>> No.12625982

>>12623199
Miranda v. State of Arizona; Westover v. United States; Vignera v. State of New York; State of California v. Stewart

The Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination requires law enforcement officials to advise a suspect interrogated in custody of their rights to remain silent and to obtain an attorney, at no charge if need be. Supreme Court of Arizona reversed and remanded.

>> No.12626014

>>12624419
>reddit spacing
>libertarian views
aint no nigga as dumb as you evah been

>> No.12626112

>>12621299
The ideology that started a war in which tens of millions died and attempted a genocide on an industrial scale? I'm ok with them being kept down, fuck off /pol/.

>> No.12626125

>>12621222
Canadian IMPs are awful, I had enough of them in basic. Can't believe armyfags eat this slop

>> No.12626188

>>12623195
>he has to leave if you so order
No, he just can't set foot on your curtilage

>> No.12627504

I am surprised so many idiots in the ration game are squeeling like pigs. Nate is unintelligent and delusional.
The retailers got greedy.
Then other dummies suggesting someone in the ration game called USDA. Yeah sure, let's bring attention to ourselves.

>> No.12627527

>>12626125
IMPs and MREs are joint worst when it comes to NATO rations.
British ORP and the Spanish ones are surprisingly good.

>> No.12628789

>>12623199
Literally the opposite of what you should do

>> No.12629047

>>12623578
The 'nice' is great but why no comment about a hiss when opening?

>> No.12629138

>>12626014
> Caring about your rights makes you a libertarian
I genuinely hope you grow old with the one you love, and raise a family with them. And then your oldest son grows to fine one they love as well, and you get to see your grandchild shot by corrupt police in front of you anon, and then the city rapea your family in a courtroom for all you and your loved ones are worth. Because you genuinely deserve that.

>> No.12629162

>>12626112
It's ok to kill socialists now, you all heard it right here.

>> No.12629200

Jesus fucking christ, this is why we need to vote for more Libertarians, who gives a fuck what country MREs come from?

>> No.12629204

>>12621222
don't broadcast your bid'ness to the world or shit like this happens.

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12629793

>>12621222
ITT-pic related

>> No.12629813

>>12623740
People in this thread are heavily conflating criminal prosecution, with some low level official investigating a threat to the public order. There is a line between preventative and repressive.

>> No.12631527

Nathan should have kept his mouth shut. Loose lips...

>> No.12631639

>>12621222
would this result in MRE videos being pulled from youtube?
should I download and back-up SteveMRE videos just to be safe?

>> No.12631642

>>12629813
Of the various flavour profiles enjoyed on /ck/, "boot" isn't one of them.

>> No.12631660

>>12631639
If so, i am not going to sit idle by and let it happen. Seal the issue in time with a little friend of mine.

>> No.12631666

>>12621952
Why would you need "due process" to ask someone questions?

>> No.12631688

>>12631666
Because they're not messaging him on Youtube. They're pulling his name and address and showing up at his house.
I'd say "post your own address if you don't think that's disturbing" but the retarded mods here would probably ban me for doxing, because patty assholes love those little positions of power, be it on 4chan or in Government.

>> No.12631732

>>12621222
Stay safe, Steve

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the retard MRE guy is clearly trying to stir shit up

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>>12631735

>> No.12631738

>>12631735
>>12631737
He shouldn't have even tried to blur that statist cunt's face at all. You want to show up on a man's property and accuse him of crimes he didn't commit, you don't get any fucking privacy yourself.

>> No.12631750

>>12631738
Oi m8 he walked on muh property so its ok to do this really fucking dumb and illegal thing and put it on the internet

>> No.12631787

>>12631750
Maybe illegal in UK or Australia, but not in the US, man. He didn't even legally have to blur his face at all since he's a government worker.

And what is with this "muh" for my? You're using an extra letter for what reason?

>> No.12631797

>>12631750
>t. fed

>> No.12631808

>>12631750
Filming someone on your property isn't illegal in the US, you stupid fuck.

>> No.12631828

>>12631787
>>12631808
Just take it straight to the court instead of being some bitchboy and making drama on the internet

>> No.12631834

>>12631642
Then I hope they chase the construction worker fixing their sewage lines leading to their property and the potholes on the road in front as well. Can't have those boots around to ruin the day. Because some guy investigating possible health risks from exotic imported foods is doing nothing else. Working to keep public order upheld.

>> No.12631841

>>12631738
What crimes? Are there charges being pressed now?

>> No.12631856

>>12631666
>>12631688
due process in this case is to first get in contact with the citizen in question and ask what is going on and if they would like to present their side of the story. Give them a hearing before further decisions are being made. And to give someone a hearing, you need to figure out how to contact them, no? Usually this would be done through a letter and not showing up in person, but it can be done in person. Nothing at all has happened, just an official announcing that he has been made aware that there COULD be health threats involved and wants to know what is what, in case he needs to take steps.

Make a thread like this when he actually gets a letter to stop importing MREs and to destroy all foreign MREs in his possession within X days under threat of a fine.

>> No.12631869

>>12631834
I pay taxes to have those sewer lines and roads. I will not pay taxes to have some pencil pushing faggot harass me for no good reason. Do you not see the difference between those two?
His "investigation" could have ended with him learning the very basics about the Amazon links he was talking about instead of wasting more of that same taxpayer money driving out to accuse someone of a crime and have HIM explain his job to him.
Are you that much of a bootlicker that you don't expect the cops to know the law when they pull you over?

>> No.12631884

>>12631869
that anon is clearly a dumbass cuck NEET

>> No.12631897

>>12621222
>PAIN HAMBURGER
While that sounds badass, I'm not going to eat something with pain in the name. I think this is bad marketing.

>> No.12631899

>>12631869
That the whole operation was unnecessary in hindsight and the official should have been better informed about the workings of Amazon is clear. But neither was any damage done. Except to the thin skin of people who think every interaction with government, is not only an annoyance, but a full-on "raid" intent to take their rights away.

Food regulation is a bog standard arm of the government dealing with threats and dangers to the public order. A very simple comparable case would be, if you had a tree on the border of your property whose branches hang partly over a public street. Might be someone worries that the tree is starting to get rotten or damaged in a storm and a branch could fall and hurt someone on the street. Some low level paper pusher comes along and asks you about it. You say the tree is in excellent health. He looks at it. And makes his decision. Probably nothing. Or maybe he might tell you to cut off the branch hanging over the street. Which of course is a total end of the world scenario for many people.

Even areas like construction supervision, which are highly dangerous with things like static and fire hazards in building, are pretty chill in working with the citizens if you are open and respectful. Which you should be to anyone who is offering the same to you.

>> No.12631918

>>12631828
You are making drama. Bitchboy.

>> No.12632002

>>12631738
Imagine actually using the word "statist" un-ironically.
Let me guess, you've got into arguments about how it's not paedophilia it's something else because the girl is 12 years old.

>> No.12632007

>>12623724
>They aren't supposed to operate like some unprofessional gang.
lol

>> No.12632349

>>12621222
>illegal possession of foreign MREs
What?

>> No.12632369

Wtf isnthis Authroitarian BS? Eating Sushi, rare meat and game meat also carries risks, shove off Uncle Sam.

>> No.12632556

>>12626014
>attempting to communicate in nigger babble while calling someone else dumb
This, gentlemen, is what we call "irony".

>> No.12632565

>>12632556
Best post on this whole thread. Thank you.

>> No.12632609

>>12621284

the USDA should be disbanded. people have a right to eat whatever the fuck they want. if you contract botulism, fuck you.

please kill yourself you limp wristed faggot.

who gives a shit holy fuck would someone please shoot me in the head so i don't have to live in this world full of cowardly faggots

>> No.12632616

>>12632609
Enjoy your gutter oil

>> No.12632624

>>12621296
>How about they go to the Mexican markets and fuck with the illegals selling tamales out of a cooler?
do you think that doesn't happen?

>> No.12632657

>>12632609
They need to be reformed, not deleted.

>> No.12632670

>>12632609
this but ironically

>> No.12632691

>>12632616

>"oh no. i have to take responsibility for myself"

>> No.12632715

>>12632609
Have fun dying or shitting your guts out after eating something you thought was food, but it turned out to be stretched with raw sewage.

>> No.12632759

>>12632715

the fucking USDA can't prevent that, the only thing that can prevent that is not being a retard and taking some responsibility. you gullible fucking moron.

>> No.12632894

>>12632759
They can, though. Economic consequences is why the shit you eat right now doesn't get stretched with sawdust, dirt, sewage or whatever else that's free/cheap and semi edible. It simply wouldn't be profitable.

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>>12621947
>Food products can never be fully sterile
Which is why you make them the right kind of not sterile, the kind that literally never goes bad.

>> No.12633750

>>12632894
Just buy food that doesn't have that crap in it. If you choose to buy food like that it's your own problem.

>> No.12633755

>>12623199
>cops are on your side bro
cops don't know shit. They're often sub100iq enforcers who are inclined to believe you are a criminal. even in the best case it's often easy to have your words twisted or misinterpreted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

>> No.12633764

>>12633750
How exactly will you know if it has it? Keep in mind that spices are very good at masking the flavor of rotting meat, so the idea of companies using artificial flavorings to mask the taste and smell of all manner of cheap, toxic fillers isn't too far off the mark.

>> No.12633768

>>12633750
>doesn't have that crap in it
That's the whole point. If there's no consequences for lying on the declaration then you can't know what's actually in it, unless you raised and butchered it yourself.

>> No.12633771

>>12626112
It didn't happen.

>> No.12633860

can someone give me a rundown? why are foreign MRE's a problem, and is the US justified in their stance?

>> No.12634052

>>12633860

cuz buy american you commie faggots. ok?

>> No.12634068

>>12622004
based boomer retard, people like you will not be happy until the World burns.

>> No.12634079

>>12623199
what a fucking boot licker, holy shit.

>> No.12634102

>>12621590
>>12623085
Fucking this. Fuck off with your sensationalist bullshit.
It sucks they're doing this but it certainly wasn't a "raid".

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>Literally the only acceptable youtuber

>> No.12635314

watched a few minutes and I don't see the big issue, if a restaurant cant import foreign, unsafe products to sell why should this guy be able to do that, because its a meme thing people do on the internet?

>> No.12635319

>>12632624
Not in my city, we love illegals for the cheap labor and cheap food.

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>>12621222
>you'll have to excuse me blood pressure is really up

>> No.12635501

>>12626112
>DONT FORGET MY TEN GORRILLION GOY

>> No.12635570

>>12633750
Okay anon, here, eat this 100% certified organic beef.
Certified by who? Go fuck yourself, that's who. What's wrong, don't believe me? Why would I POSSIBLY lie in a world where lying has no consequences?

>> No.12635679

>>12621947
>1940's

I know I've seen 1860's hardtack being eaten. I don't see quarantine being an issue, though. They're just going to get salmonella or tapeworm or something else that's already everywhere and being contracted on a daily basis from domestic, modern food that wasn't handled properly.