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Will it catch on?

>> No.12599647

>>12599640
>report says
lol.

>> No.12599653

GRRR
GURG PROTEST
BURN LETTUCE ON STICK
NOT MY BURGER, NOT MY BURGER
BLOOD GOOD, PLANT BAD

>> No.12599656

>>12599640
The same way any old soy-based imitation meat "caught on". It'll never taste like meat.

>> No.12599659

>animal flesh

interesting choice of words

>> No.12599660

>>12599653
this is a really gay post and I hope you're embarrassed you made it

>> No.12599676

>>12599640
Well if it's cheaper and better for me, may as well right?

>> No.12599677
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>“““plant-based meat“““

>> No.12599682

>>12599656
apparently these newer ones actually resemble meat instead of a hockey puck of beans mashed together

>> No.12599700

>>12599640
there is no such thing as plant-based meat

>> No.12599710

>>12599682
What are they made of?

>> No.12599728

>>12599700
Yes there is, it’s just meat

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>>12599640
If it doesn't have the same amount of protein as real meat I won't even try it.

>> No.12599733

>>12599710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIiLqNQOgPA

>> No.12599735

>>12599653
it's funny how the left always reuse the NPC meymey, but wrong, it's nearly like this shit made you so mad from being so on point it fried half your remaining neurons

>> No.12599738

>textured soy protein and canola oil “meat”

Fuck off

>> No.12599743

>>12599735
>grug
>npc meme
You have to go back, summer.

>> No.12599762

>>12599640

of course. we will be one united vegan world and live happily ever after forever

>> No.12599808

>>12599640
Why would you risk your health by abstaining from real meat?
Also:
>Report says bug eating is the new big thing.

>> No.12599888

I actually do feel guilty whenever I eat meat, so ill be happy to give these a try as soon as they become cheaper than beef.

If they taste bad though, Im going straight back to meat, make no mistake.

>> No.12599899

>>12599640
If it tastes just as good as regular meat it will.
I wouldn't mind not eating meat if I could get a "plant based" burger that tasted like the real thing.
Problem is most of them taste like shit.

>> No.12599909

Yeah but how do they replicate the taste of animal fat? I bet they taste like those extra lean beef burgers that uppity soccer moms love to buy. In other words like SHIT.

>> No.12599924

>>12599909
thats the problem with those things. they hardly put any fat in them at all and I always end up burning them because I never know when the fuck they are supposed to be done.

>> No.12599926
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>>12599640
>plant-based meat

>> No.12599928

>>12599640
>Will it catch on?

If I like it, fine. Otherwise nope.

>> No.12599941

i eat meat but i prefer a veggie patty to have recognizable veg in it, like corn or beans
the fake laboratory meat shit just hurts my stomach and makes me crave tartare

>> No.12599957

>>12599640
It will never be cheaper because of many reasons for example the investors who poured their money in developing this shit would never agree in losing money because they know their market. Also the vegan faggot fad is eventually going to die, they've even started advertising testosterone boosters and saying that Americans are pussies.

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12599961

My "meat" do they mean it can replace bacon, ribs, steak, burgers, sausage, fish, chicken, wings, turkey, duck, jerky, shellfish, deer, tender loin, cracklin'...?

anyone else want to list some more?

>> No.12599974

>>12599961

mainly it looks like theyre trying to replace beef atm. over time theyll probably work on separate products to replace each of the other different meats.

>> No.12600090

>>12599640
If it catches on, demand will go up as well as prices.

>> No.12600108

>>12599640

except it's not meat. it's plants. people want meat because it's nourishing.

>> No.12600115

>>12600108
Isn't B12 the only actual benefit of meat (other than its deliciousness) though?

>> No.12600124

>>12599735
Heh, So this is the power of summer instinct

>> No.12600169

>>12599743
>muh summer
Shut the FUCK UP retard.

>> No.12600172

>>12599640
>plant based """meat"""
>"animal flesh"
Wow, what a perfect informative, impartial, and unbiased article to share on my vegan yummie mumie facebook group :^)

>> No.12600176

>>12599640
I very, very much doubt this unless they're only comparing it to the more expensive beef patties. That being said, if true, that would be amazing assuming it's talking about the kinds of patties that supposedly actually taste like beef and not the crap oldschool type of veggie burger patties.

>> No.12600184

>>12600169
Summerfag, go eat dinner with your family.

>> No.12600187

>>12600184
Don't reply to me ever again.

>> No.12600189

>>12600187
Or will your dad backtrace my account?

>> No.12600193

>>12600169
Summer is here!

>> No.12600198

>>12599640
If it tastes just as good as meat then maybe.

>> No.12600204

If you don't hunt for and process your own meat in your own backyard, you're a coward" and a stain on "humanity". Plain and simple.

>> No.12600218

>>12599640
Why not just buy the real thing ? Meat is easily available everywhere for cheap.

>> No.12600222

>>12600218
For most people, it's probably the environmental impact of livestock and the health benefits of the plant "meat" that's appealing

>> No.12600228

>>12600169
SUMMERTIME AND THE NEWFAG'S SPERGING

>> No.12600229

>>12599640
>plant based meat
no such thing fucker

>> No.12600265

>>12599682
I'll take a black bean "burger" any day over these disgusting fake meat abominations.
Impossible, Beyond Beef, etc. I've tried them all. They all taste, look, and smell nothing like a proper burger patty.
The vegetable patties that have only adopted the convenient patty form but don't actually try to taste like meat are at least honest and often actually taste good.

>> No.12600299

once the taste is the same and its cheaper, yeah of course.

They're pretty close on flavor already.

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>>12600222
>the environmental impact of livestock
What about the environmental impact of industrial agriculture ? What health benefits ? Lack of b12 ? It's a wealthy white woman thing. When you know what hunger mean, you stop this kind of bullshit. If a war break, they'll sell their ass for a pound of dog meat.

>> No.12600313

>>12600229
then what's grass-fed beef made out of?

>> No.12600323

>>12600222
Except production and transport of this crap is just as polluting and it literally is not healthier in ANY way

>> No.12600332

>>12600309
Whoa, whoa, whoa there
I am a fellow meat eater
I'm just saying that that's the appeal for the vast majority of people who go for this kind of thing

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>>12600309
>What about the environmental impact of industrial agriculture ?

>> No.12600337

>>12600323
It's not?
I feel like a lb of this stuff vs a lb of red meat is probably less unhealthy at the least

>> No.12600351

>>12600337
Yeah and that's exactly what they want you to assume based on exactly nothing except the word "plant"

>> No.12600362

Stop getting hung up on the wording of "meat" you need to change your understanding of it, same with "patty" and "burger" those are more obvious to understand since those are terms and anything can be a patty or burger. Regardless it's still food and they made it taste good, personally don't care if meat goes away because I'm not a person who is bound to it, I just eat food if it tastes good and you can make things taste good if you prepare it properly. So basically just git gud at cooking.

>> No.12600374

>>12600362
>stop using words how they‘re meant to be used
>you (((need))) to change common words
Fuck off, globohomo niggersoy vegacuck.

>> No.12600378

>>12600351
>lower cholesterol
>lower fat
>based on exactly nothing
????

>> No.12600381

Yeah of course its cheaper its mass produced trash
I just hope real meat prices go down a little as a result so I can enjoy them

>> No.12600382
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>>12599732
Plant protein has an incomplete set of amino acids, they mostly supply the ones our bodies can make anyway. Animal proteins generally contains a complete spectrum of amino acids, including the essential proteins that we cannot synthesize. This is one of the reasons long term vegans always look like leftover road kill. The lack of an actual human soul doesnt help either, but that's a topic for another thread.

>> No.12600384

>>12599640
If it tastes good and is filling I will eat it. If it is not I won't.

>> No.12600391

doesnt matter if its 0.01$ an lb
i will still eat real animal meat any day of the week

>> No.12600397

>>12600309
>What about the environmental impact of industrial agriculture

It's massively lower per equivalent amount of food than livestock.

>> No.12600399

>>12600382
Based
Seems legit
Like the Great B12 Debate?

>> No.12600403

>>12600382
>>12600382
except you can mix and match sources of plant protein to achieve the full spectrum

>> No.12600409

It''s already being sold. As far as we dont know.

>> No.12600411

>>12599974
>mainly it looks like theyre trying to replace beef atm
not even real beef, just ground beef lol

>> No.12600515

>another vegan shill thread
oregano

>> No.12600682

half the price, half the taste

yum

>> No.12600698

>"""animal flesh"""
Gee, this article surely doesn't have an agenda or anything

>> No.12600703

>>12599640
If I wanted vegetarian food, I'd want dishes that were meant to be vegetarian rather than psuedo meat.

>> No.12600727

meat is already mostly plant based and just makes more meat
>give tonnes of fodder to calf over time
>calf becomes cow
>cow makes calf
>eat cow
>give tonnes of fodder to calf over time

I don't see how you can get any more vegan than this plant based meat

>> No.12600729

>>12599653
based schizoposter

>> No.12600735

Where in the OP did it say anything about the plant based meat being vegan? All you guys need to chill. It probably won't taste or feel exactly like meat, but if it satisfies that craving, can be made to taste good and is cheaper than real meat then it's a good product.

>> No.12601020

>>12599640
I don't eat meat for the price.

>> No.12601060

>>12600335
Of course the phoneposter is a retard. Of course.

>> No.12601068

>>12599682
Tried beyond meat recently, it smelled and tasted like canned cat food. Fucking disgusting

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>>12600187
>>12600189

>> No.12601095

>>12600309
The catch is you feed livestock with the product of industrial agriculture and introduce losses in the process.

>> No.12601106

>>12600362
In this context, "meat" is a marketing term. I doubt the USDA would let them put it on packaging. Same reason why Oreos have "creme" in them and not "cream"

>> No.12601111

>>12600313
>trying to argue semantics to get around blatant false advertising

>> No.12601112

>>12600397
>>12600403
I'll take "Rice and Beans" for $100, Alex.

>> No.12601117

>>12601095
Shame we can't just feed cows grass, that thing they're meant to eat, which grows without human intervention, requires no industry to maintain, and is then well-fertilized by the cows doing their thing in the same general area.

>> No.12601123

>>12600698
In all fairness, you can also interpret it as a way to differentiate "meat" between plant-based and animal-based (if you neglect the literal meaning of the word "meat").

>> No.12601128

>>12601117
Except, there isn't enough grazing pasture to do this economically.

>> No.12601149

>>12601128
Then make more, and turn unsuitable land into forests to balance out the carbon difference. Plus, there's all that land that's currently being used to grow corn, much of which is being fed to those cows, just turn it back into pasture, and cut out the middleman. I realize that fixing this country's corn addiction is on par with curing cancer, but I can still dream.

>> No.12601151

>>12600374
the word "meat" has been used for centuries to describe many things besides animal meat you retard

>> No.12601159

>>12601149
the country doesn't have a corn addiction. corn is extremely heavily subsidized, that's why it needs to be shoved into everything. god forbid farmers produce anything else

>> No.12601167

>>12601159
>heavily subsidized
Yes, that's what I was getting at. You know, addiction, that thing where you obsess over something to the point of detriment?

>> No.12601168

>>12601149
>Consider that the average per-acre corn yield in the U.S. is about 160 bushels. With a bushel of corn weighing about 52 pounds, that is about 8,320 pounds of corn from one acre. Cattle in a feedlot convert feed at about a six-to-one ratio. So, one acre of corn translates to about 1,387 pounds of weight gain. In contrast, one acre of highly productive Midwest pasture might produce about 4,000 pounds of forage (on a dry-matter basis) over one good growing season. Typically, cattle can only utilize about 75 percent of the forage in a pasture, so that's about 3,000 pounds of available forage. Cattle on pasture convert feed at about a 12-to-1 ratio, so the pasture would produce about 250 pounds of weight gain. Pastures in the arid West, where many of our cattle are raised, are far less productive than this example.

So, you'd need about 6 times more grassland than cornfield for the same beef production, if you trust this source: https://www.drovers.com/article/summing-grass-versus-grain

Yeah, that ain't gonna work, scooter.

>> No.12601174

>>12601167
that's not an addiction. it's a piece of legislation no regular american citizen asked for or voted on (other than piece of shit farmers who can't manage different crops)

>> No.12601192

>>12601174
It's legislation to buy votes in Iowa, because Iowa is the most important state in the primaries.

>> No.12601207

>>12601168
Things aren't so cut and dry. For one thing, cow's fed corn tend to develop all sorts of health complications that grass-fed do not, which offsets losses due to illness. The article also mentions that we raise cattle in places unsuited to raising them, (the "arid West"), so the obvious solution is to raise them in places that are suited to raising them. It's not rocket science. Combine this with the level of food waste in this country, and the numbers aren't so dire. There's plenty of land that's under/un-utilized, so it's not like we're running out of room.

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Plant-based imitations are crap. They will never satisfy someone who wants real meat. Lab-grown is the only way forward.

>>12599682
>apparently

So you've never tried it. Beyond Meat tastes like marinated rubber.

>> No.12601266

>>12601149
>Then make more, and turn unsuitable land into forests to balance out the carbon difference.
Are you in third grade?

>> No.12601267

>>12599647
It's credible, {{they}} swear!

>> No.12601272

>>12601266
>the status quo is god
>if something can't be done overnight, it's not worth doing

>> No.12601273

>>12601272
Why don’t you just get a brain transplant from Einstein?

>> No.12601289

>>12601273
Now I'm wondering if /you're/ in third grade.

>> No.12601294

>>12601289
That should be more of a self-indictment than anything.

>> No.12601302

>>12601294
I don't think you understand what that means.

>> No.12601315

The BK Impossible Whopper was actually fucking great. Just very expensive. If they brought the price way down I would definitely get it more often. T. Not shill

>> No.12601336

>>12601302
I think youre just coping and running out of weak barbs

>> No.12601361

>>12601239
>Beyond Meat tastes like marinated rubber.
This. They're horrible.

And god forbid someone buys a number of these to go along with a barbecue and they don't get eaten within a couple minutes of being cooked. They dry out and harden like a rock quickly as they cool.

>> No.12601365

>>12601336
Anyone making comments containing the word "einstein" and "brain" has no business talking about "weak barbs". I'd love to know what you think I'm "coping" with.

>> No.12601375

>>12601365
>oh no he use mean words!
Yikes

>I'd love to know what you think I'm "coping" with.
“Think”? No, “know”. Losing.

>> No.12601376

Only experience with these I've had is impossible whopper. It tasted same as a real whopper. If it wasn't $1 extra I'd keep getting it. If it's actually cheaper then it would be my regular purchase.

>> No.12601389

>>12601375
>Mean
Juvenile, you mean.

>Losing
Losing what exactly? We're not having a debate, I posted an, admittedly impractical, solution to a problem, and you replied with >>12601266. The only thing I'm "losing" here is precious seconds between cradle and grave.

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>animal flesh
>plant meat
>reports say

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>plant
>meat
wut

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>>12599640
>"Plant based meat"

No such thing. OP is referring to "chemical soy slop" and the cost should be of zero concern to any sane person. Liberals and vegans will gobble them up and destroy their health. wgaf?

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>>12601117
All cows already eat grass, for the first half of their lives, then (most) cows go to feedlots to get fattened up. So your wish is already true, halfway.

No matter how bad the "born and grow up on grass, then go to a feedlot" system, no matter how bad it is, it's a ten million times better deal than factory farm chicken and hogs get. (Birth to death in a factory cage)

Most people don't want to pay the huge premium for grass only fed cows, so we have the system we have.

>> No.12601668

>>12601649
Pure grass fed meat tastes worse. Almost all beef is mostly grass fed with corn finishing to get the nice marbling and flavor anyway.
>t. associates with livestock farmers

>> No.12601691

>>12601168
>>12601207
You're both wrong. Cows are fed grass (for the first part of their lives), AND grain when they are moved to the feedlot for fattening.

This "argument" your having indicated neither one of you know anything about cows. And reading some misleading "comparison" literally made your knowledge less.

Cows are raised everywhere, but beautiful pastureland is also wasted and cleared, used for planting heavily (((subsidized))) corn, also for retarded harmful ethanol. Cows could be grazing there, but ((((government))) fucked that up like everything else.

>> No.12601768

>>12601691
Those pasturelands aren't that beautiful and if we switched our diets to a more heavily plant based one we would be able to rewild those pastures to areas that are actually appealing to be in for wildlife. Most corn is fed to cows in feedlots retard. The united states does not have enough space to feed itself on grass fed beef either.

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>>12601691
>>12601768
it's also worth mentioning that most of the corn used in the production of beef and pork is 'dent corn' a type of corn that has a ridiculously high yield, but is not particularly nutritious for humans, and without being further processed first, cant even be digested by humans.

believe it or not, this is the most efficient use of that land.
cattle and pigs will eat the corn, the leaves, and even the stalks.
surprisingly there is a (((reason))) the (((governments))) will (((subsidize))) corn.

>> No.12601950

>>12600382
Soy based formula works okay ... not as good as breast milk, but no formula works as well as breast milk.

Vegans don't tend to eat a balanced diet.

>> No.12602018

>>12599653
What de la fuque?XDDD

>> No.12602020

cum burger

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>>12599640
It already has.

It's called soy and tofu. And you add it to all kinds of dishes as a way of adding a chewy texture which humans find pleasant. But americans are Sinophibic as shit and can't eat real Chinese food so they have to engineer all this "vegan" shit instead of just eating perfectly good Indian/Chinese vegetarian meals.

Also portobello/mushrooms burgers > "veggie" burgers

>> No.12602086

>>12602056
amerikans are niggers

>> No.12602095

>>12599640
Nope. But lab meat will. Which will make vegans seething because they will become obsoletw and humanity will still eat meat so their ideology basically failed.

>> No.12602099

>>12599647
>significant if factually sound

>> No.12602102

>>12601768
Dont need to switch the diet fpr that. Meat will just just be produced in labs instead of pastures problem solved.

>> No.12602104

>>12599640
Notice how they use the word "meat" to describe the plant-based product and they choose to use the word "flesh" for describing the animal product. They could have easily used the word meat for both and I would argue that it would be the better option as they are two things that are being directly compared and it would be an easier association to make. This is subtle marketing and a bias headline.

>> No.12602217

>>12599640
Filler. Yes, because that's all fucking plant based meat is in the corporate eye. It will go unchecked by first being 10% of animal based meat, and then 30%, and then 50%, 70%, and eventually 100 fucking percent. Because the only thing more retarded than a vegan or vegetarians sense of what's healthy, is their sense that McDonalds, BK, Taco Bell, Monsanto, Sysco, and anyother corporate entity out there would so any action that is healthy for the consumer. Will it catch on? Not in America for awhile. But as the population continues itll eventually come back. And when a BigMac is knocked down from $10.00 a sandwich to $5.00. Vegans and vegetarians alike will cheer in gratitude as they scarf down a GMO Frankenstein's monster that's 3x more unhealthy than what it originally was.

>> No.12602227

It's funny how these retard threads bunch up as if they're all paid for by the same people pushing an agenda.
Here's the others...
>>12602076
>>12601809

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>>12599640
>plant-based meat
Guys, I just thought of a new invention. Meat-based plants.

>> No.12602237

>>12599640
thr catch is that vegans will become meat one day

>> No.12602243

>>12602237
Vegan meat is people.
Meat is vegan
Soylent greens is meat
Sylent gran is peopl

>> No.12602257

>>12599640
not in america, because our culture literally celebrates anti-intellectualism and hails being stuck in your ways as a virtue

>> No.12602278

>>12602257
>Plant based meat
>Intellectuel
Yeah no... Lab meat would be the intellectual solution your is just brain dead ingredient mashing until it somewhat resembles what meat could be

>> No.12602296

The only "plant based meat" I want is some plant girl.

>> No.12602309

>>12602227
yikes

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>>12602231

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Why is it always burger patties?
That's like the least impressive achievement in faking real meat. The ground shit in a burger barely tastes like meat anyway.
Call me when they can do a roast

>> No.12602784

Can't wait to eat nothing but burgers instead of meat and fish. The future is vegan.

>> No.12602846

>>12601117
What, you actually believe that cows eat grass and nothing else nowadays?

>> No.12602855

>>12599640
Never

>> No.12602906

>>12600265
Based bean Chad. Dabbing on fake "meat" patties with superior bean taste.

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>>12601768
>Those pasturelands aren't that beautiful and if we switched our diets to a more heavily plant based one we would be able to rewild those pastures to areas that are actually appealing to be in for wildlife.

An astonishing lie. The pastureland is beautiful, and cows, or bison, belongs on it, per God's plan. You want to kill the cows so you can plant gmo corn and soy which will sicken both man and beast. Get back to your father the devil.


>Corn is fed to cows in feedlots person who is healthier than me and not a sickly vegan.

Making the cows sick and fat. You want humans to be sick from the corn instead of cows? I don't even get this comment?

>The united states does not have enough space to feed itself on grass fed beef either.

That is your opinion, and completely spectacularly false, but also irrelevant. The entire nation of people do not demand grass fed beef, nor can most people afford it, furthermore half the people here(non whites) get free food. Do you want me to have to pay for them to eat expensive grass fed beef too?

Fuck me vegans are fucking stupid.

>> No.12603048

>>12600265
These fake meats were created by vegans who never tried real meat and are repulsed by the very idea of eating it.

In effect, they taste and smell how these vegans imagine real meat does - repulsive.

>> No.12603158

>>12599640
>Raise animal
>Kill animal
>Age carcass
>Butcher carcass
>Ground meat
>Turn into burger
Or
>Farm 50 different types of plants that are either GMO or need to be grown in different countries
>Process each one individually in a factory
>Emulsify and turn into an imitation product
>Turn into patty
No, I have a distrust for things that need this manny steps, specialized machinery, international trade and such.

>> No.12603183
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>>12603158
At least the "vegan alternative" will sicken and kill many liberals.

>> No.12603184

>>12599640
I'll always be able to tell. If I wanted a vegetarian burger I'd just get a huge mushroom and use that instead of a patty. Imitation meat is the dumbest idea human kind has ever come up with. The people who celebrate this shit obviously like meat so much that they couldn't possibly go through their lives without it and keep pursuing some alternative to retain their false sense of morality, while us "HURR DURR CARNIVORES" Can enjoy vegetables on their own merits instead of trying (and failing) to make them all taste like meat.
Just make a fucking vegetable curry or eat some roast zucchinis or something you fucking retards.

>> No.12603190

>>12600382
what are the essential proteins we cannoth synthesize

>> No.12603192
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if lefties were not vegans and vegetarians making the life style look bad than it would be more popular among more right wing people. Except conservatives.
I am a pescatarian and most people are lost for words when I tell them. Im just not wanting animals to be treated they way they are.
I want expansive farming not intensive farming.
If any of you guys are right wing I implore you try the life style. Eating meat the way its being farmed right now is literally killing you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6aqdFy9SI [Embed]
This video has some miss information in it but its still a good watch to understand what ((they)) have done to your food supply and how they are slowly poisoning you.

It also might be a psyop that vegans are portrayed as weak and lefty retards, to deter people from they life style.
Source: I have never felt so good since I droped red meat from my diet and because I said so.

>> No.12603205

>>12603192
>Zekefag is also a vegetarian
of course
take a cue from your reaction image and remove yourself from the gene pool

>> No.12603213

>>12603205
no

>> No.12603217

>>12599640
>plant-based meat

There's no such thing. If it's plant-based, it by definition can't be meat.

>> No.12603235

>>12603217
meat in the vernacular can refer to vegan foods like nuts or avocado

>> No.12603239

>>12603235

No it can't. Meat refers only to one thing: meat.

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>>12603192
>I eat fish meat
>But let me drop this rabid vegan propaganda on you.

If you love veganism stop killing innocent fish, and go vegan. And stop posting radical left wing propaganda and pretend you're not one of (((them)))

>> No.12603247

>>12603239
it literally does and has so you're retarded and should kill yourself

>> No.12603254

i assumed it would be cheaper already. how the fuck can a mushroom and soy burger be more expensive than beef?

>> No.12603271

>>12603239
It is literally called nutmeat, you fucking idiot. Just like the what your gf gargles when the bull comes over.

>> No.12603330

>>12603254
Market valuation, supply vs demand vs price. Mix some crap, sell as plant-based meat at 900% mark-up, if there's enough idiots to buy it, you're golden.

Then others show up and start selling their own crap mixes calling them plant-based meats and you must drop your price to remain competitive. Now you're all selling at 600% markup.

Eventually you'll get enough competitors you'll have to drop your price below price of actual meat and be satisfied with 500% markup only.

>> No.12603333

>>12603245
Well, according to catholic doctrine, fish is not meat.
And beaver is a fish.

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>>12602359
https://redefinemeat.com/

They're working on 3D printing meat. I assume they print strings of protein goop, cover it with a spray of transglutaminase solution and then repeat. Then print some fat here and there too.

Supposedly they already served something out of the printer at a restaurant.

>> No.12603462

There's more to meat then just protein grown in a test tube.

>> No.12603474

lol @ you ignorant white liberal faggots.

China has been making pea & bean protein based "meat substitutes" for decades... bean/pea protein shit is literally everywhere. We only use that chemical protein garbage when we can't afford real meat.

>> No.12603555

>>12602056
Based, except
any mushrooms in any form > "veggie" burgers
Fried parasol mushroom caps are the food of gods.

>> No.12603755

>>12603158
>...Anon typed out on his electronic device, failing to understand the irony.

>> No.12603774

>>12600265
This, I love meat but I won't turn down a good veggie burger.

>> No.12603785

>>12601128
So I checked and there is in the following countries:
>Australia
>New Zealand
>America
>Argentina
>Canada
>Russia
Since I live in one of them fuck the rest of the world, lol.

>> No.12603892

>>12599808

Risk your health? You're fucking retarded. Animal products literally give you cancer, heart disease and a ton of other health issues.

>> No.12603903

>>12599888
Why not just eat more plants? The meat is clearly the issue. If you feel guilty maybe you should be more curious about why that is.

You can live a healthier life without it and do less harm as well.

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>>12603892

>> No.12603911

>>12599924
These are about 37% fat iirc. They get greasy when you cook them.

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>>12603905

>> No.12604083

>>12603892
being alive makes you die eventually, better kill yourself

>> No.12604091

>>12603755
>y-you use technology so i should massacre every animal possible
Trump voters

>> No.12604128

>>12600309
Billions of fat fucking cows constantly eating results in constant farting which produces a lot of methane, which does have an environmental influence.

>> No.12604141

>>12604091
I'm Vietnamese and who and what are you talking about?

>> No.12604205

>>12604141
>vietnamese
>in my country there is no wildlife because we've killed them all

>> No.12604208

>>12603245
/Proof by example/
Structure:

I know that X is such.
Therefore, anything related to X is also such.

Argument form:

I know that x, which is a member of group X, has the property P.
Therefore, all other elements of X have the property P.

The following example demonstrates why this is a logical fallacy:

I've seen a person shoot someone dead.
Therefore, all people are murderers.

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>>12604205
>Hunting for your food.
>In any country that has progressed past the Bronze Age.

>> No.12604324

>>12603192
>It also might be a psyop that vegans are portrayed as weak and lefty retards, to deter people from they life style.

In left circles, being a vegan will get you called a reactionary or colonialist or racist, and vegans are single-handedly responsible for the mistreatment of migrant farm workers, genocide, the problems of monocrop agriculture, etc.
The beef and dairy industry has no politics, just billions of dollars to keep people shoveling down their shit.

>> No.12604370

>>12599640
I tried the impossible burger for the meme value a month ago. The patties are frozen and tiny, and get smaller when thawed.
They're too small to use regular buns. Already a deal breaker. When I cooked it over the grill, it didn't change color in any way that indicated wether it was finished or not. I properly seasoned, and dressed it how I usually make my burgers, salt, pepper, buttered toasted buns, iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, Caramelized onions, pickles, jalapeño peppers, ketchup, mustard. I took a bite and it tasted like the rotten beef equivalent to chicken mcnuggets. I could do 2 bites. The dog was even hesitant to try the other patty. This will not catch on. It would be cruel and unusual punishment to serve this to prisoners.

>> No.12604406

>>12604208
No one cares you fucking autist holy shit

>> No.12604407

>>12604370
Do they even sell the Impossible Burger at retail? I don’t think they do and they’re safe to eat uncooked as far as I know

>> No.12604465

>>12604407
Oh wait my bad, it was the beyond burger. Got them confused.

>> No.12604468

>>12604407
Not that I'm aware of.
They make this stuff to order, if memory serves me right.
You can even affect the texture of the meat itself if you ask for it.
I personally tried it myself at a small vegan burger place a few weeks ago. It was certainly something I'd eat again, but at $12 for an In-n-out style meal, it's not something I can afford to get over regular burgers.

>> No.12604489

>>12599660
*braaap*

>> No.12604715

>>12604407
They sell two products to restaurants. The patties and the mince. If you can, find somewhere that has the mince and ask for it lightly cooked. You'll then notice that it tastes exactly the same as regular meat. Really fucked me up when I had it.

>> No.12604727

>>12599728
meat is the flesh of an animal, retard

>> No.12604730

>>12599640
And then follow the lawsuits making it illegal to call it "meat" and so no one buys it and it goes "belly" up.

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>>12604468
They'll soon be cheaper than meat. Probably next year. Here's an excerpt from the CEO that was fed through a business analyst:

> “Once plant-based meat achieves sufficient market penetration to tap into these emerging opportunities to optimize raw materials and make production more efficient, the industry will enter a bright new era of accessibility and affordability that will benefit both consumers and producers.”

>“There are major and minor elements of the manufacturing facility and production process design that make sense only for production volumes 10-fold or 100-fold larger than the capacity of the existing plant-based meat facilities, and these changes can facilitate radical increases in efficiency and thus decreases in cost,”

You're essentially paying more because of subsidies. The high demand is crippling the raw material supply currently. Once this ramps up, you'll see $0.50 burgers and versions of the product at one tenth of the price most likely.

>> No.12604763

>>12599640
Nope, only vat-grown meat will do.
Either that, or you genetically engineer a plant to produce the exact same proteins and fats and textures are an animal. Would be interesting.

>> No.12604766

>>12604763
>or you genetically engineer a plant to produce the exact same proteins and fats and textures are an animal
Those are called "animals"

>> No.12604826

>>12604766
Fuck off carnist, go torture a cow for shits and giggles.

>> No.12604956

>>12599640
if there's no soy and it tastes good, I would eat it. The Economist was giving away free Impossible Burgers a few months ago and it tasted damn good.

>> No.12605025

>>12599733
>>12604956
Why are these media companies doing this?

>> No.12605043

>>12605025
I really have no idea and am not willing to suspect some globohomo agenda until solid evidence is revealed.

The Economist was giving out the burgers for free in exchange for an Economist subscription (not sure if this cost the subscriber $$). I also live in a metro area so it was probably a bigger enticement. But beyond that I dunno

>> No.12605059

>>12605025
Because the people who read Economist and Wired are the sort who will follow any new trend and this is a new trend.

>> No.12605076

>>12604826
I will do no such thing, cows are cute and mild mannered.
Heifers, on the other hand, are cunts before and after castration and are meant to be eaten.

>> No.12605092

>>12605025
They own stocks and they're looking to get paid.

>> No.12606013

>>12599640
Yes

>> No.12606802

>>12600115
Iron

sure you can get it from spinach but every single vegetarian and vegan I know takes iron supplements or is passing out every other week

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>>12599640
If it taste exactly 100% like regular "animal flesh" and has the exact same texture I'll switch over otherwise no. if meat gets too expensive I'll just eat other things not plant flesh

>> No.12606893

Vegans would rather eat the vulcanized catfood that is imitation meat than just eat a goddam slice of tofu. Fuck you can even fry it if you're an american, and yet they always go for the shit made in a lab from 500 different plants whose total environmental and gastrointestinal impact is 1000 times worse than a cow per ounce. So why do vegans eat it up? It's because mentally they are denying what their body demands of them so much that in their weak will they will shovel trash down their gullet then with tears rolling down their face shout "S-see? I don't need meat! *sounds of sobbing and vomitting mixing* DID I MENTION I'M A VEGAN?!"
Truth is vegans are not mentally stable. That's why this will sell, if only for a while, while mapodofu goes uneaten. While grilled onions and fried mushrooms go uneaten. Because dumbasses refuse to look at a vegetable that isn't pizza.

>> No.12606959

Man, I always feel weird about trying out vegetarian or poultry options at mostly beef-based restaurants because it seems like people think I'm some kind of dieter or something.
I just don't like the taste of beef.

>> No.12606966

>>12599640
If it tastes the same and has the same if not more nutritonal value then sure I'll eat it.

>> No.12606973

>>12606966
>tastes the same
it's easier to teach people wrong about the taste of meat by convincing the masses the cafeteria steak the got all their childhood is the real deal.

>> No.12607019

>>12603449
They 3D print buzzwords and sell snake oil.

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>>12606802
>sure you can get it from spinach
Hope they like their kidney stones.

>> No.12607279

>>12601649
>>12601668
BULLSHIT
I worked at a kill factory. We'd get a bunch of shitty corn fed beef and it was brown right after killing them, we'd pump the cuts full of air and CO2 to redden it up.

FEW TIMES we got true grass fed, free range cattle come through and their meat was a DARK RED. Pumping air/co2 into it didn't do anything, it was already prime meat with no masking.

>> No.12607377

>>12604128
>farting
Belching. Methane gas is a by product of rumen fermentation.

>> No.12607382

>>12605076
>Heifers
>castration

>> No.12607711

>>12606893
I live with with two mentally sound vegan siblings and what is this?

>> No.12607713

>>12607279
>a kill factory