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>be american
>go out for dinner
>don’t tip
>get banned from the restaurant

>> No.12578112

>>12578105
Maybe the restaurant should pay a living wage.

>> No.12578113

>>12578105
>americans
Laughing my ass off

>> No.12578114

>>12578105
thank late stage capitalism, nickel and diming mixed with virtue signalling means you're wrong for not bending over and taking the capitalist cock $12 deep

>> No.12578118

>>12578105
>I will not subject my staff to that type of behavior
>Subjects staff to that type of behavior BY NOT PAYING THEM FOR THEIR JOB MORON

>> No.12578129

>>12578114
slav here
stop vilifying capitalism for your own short comings. You know jack about communism and I hope you get to live it.

>> No.12578133

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE...

>> No.12578136

>>12578105
why the fuck are americans on a name to name basis with every restaurant staff they come in contact with to the point they even know each other phone numbers what the actual fuck

>> No.12578137

>>12578129
The Balkans were infinitely better under Tito, Vlad

>> No.12578141

>>12578118
>im not oging to subject my staff to this (low pay)
>instead of me you should pay their wage on top of what youre paying for the food and the service
how can americans defend this?

>> No.12578143

>>12578129
Take it easy bro, I don't wish ill will nor am I advocating communism, but America has been fucked hard in the last decade, medical, education and housing prices have increased way beyond earnings

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>>12578105
Nice!

>> No.12578160

>>12578114
Capitalism>socialism, a democratic capitalist steady state economy would be much better than any autocratic socialist state.
>>12578129
U still do live with communism, most communist officials transferred right on over to the new government and the constitution was rigged with national security provisions intruding on human rights. Rly It’s just being less intrusive than wat it used to be for now.

>> No.12578162

>>12578160
>democratic capitalist steady state economy would be much better
Doesn't matter when we've got a fuckstate

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>>12578105
>americans

>> No.12578178

>tipping
Why would I throw away my money like that?

>> No.12578336

>>12578136
That's Facebook messenger, my guy.

>> No.12578495

>>12578105
I’m gonna call bullshit on this one

>> No.12578502

>>12578105
based
tipping is bad and should be abolished but the retards who act like they're doing something by not tipping their servers are the lowest scum of the world

>> No.12578525

>>12578502
>tipping is bad
>but no one should stand up against it
Bootlicker

>> No.12578536

>>12578525
the servers need to stand against it, and they are. a lot of legislation to force restaurants to pay the real minimum wage have been introduced across the country in recent years. when a retarded customer doesn't tip that doesn't stand against tipping it just punishes the server for working in the system

>> No.12578549

>>12578105
>willing to ban customers
>unwilling to pay their servers well enough that tipping or not tipping doesn't hurt them
Wew lad

>> No.12578553

>>12578536
It raises awareness

>> No.12578561

>>12578549
being this dumb

>> No.12578562

The only people that hate tipping are shitty waiters and waitresses who are also ugly and have no charisma. If you are a 7 or up with a beautiful smile and big perky tits you are pulling tips like you wouldn't believe. It's basically sex work and obviously if you're not attractive/a crackhead, you earn a crackhead tip from me and by crackhead tip I mean no tip at all, especially if you're black or a single mother

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>>12578129
Slavs are barely human retards. It doesn't matter whether you live under communism or capitalism, you'll still be living in huts and eating off shovels.

>> No.12578584

>>12578105
Someone explain to me how a restaurant would rather not sell food than sell food?

>> No.12578595

>>12578553
You are one stupid motherfucker, aren't you?

>> No.12578602

>>12578112
>owner has to pay a fair wage
socialism
>customer & servers have to negotiate a weird unwritten rule in order to subsidise the restaurant owner
not socialism

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>>12578112
One certainly could leave the final salary to a central decision-maker, in this case either the restaurant owner or a government minimum-wage board. The American "let me do it myself" approach, however, desires to leave the ultimate decision in the hands of the customer. It's certainly debatable about how efficient or humane this is, but the pro argument is that it leaves a bit of discretion in the hands of the end-user, and therefore a bit of incentive in the hands of the service provider. One can rightly call it an inconvenience, but there's a logic to it that fits into a larger system

Not tipping means you're an asshole or worse, a europoor

>> No.12578610

>>12578584
Because they are not running out of people to serve.

>> No.12578614

>>12578595
If everyone who was against tipping stopped tipping then things might change: why are you a coward to stand up for your beliefs?

>> No.12578714

>>12578602
plot twist: waitresses will continue demanding tips regarless of what wage they're paid
one has nothing to do with the other

>> No.12578723

>>12578610
Very few restaurants are constantly booked

>> No.12578725

>>12578714
This. Seriously doubt if restaurants abided by the minimum wage that all these bartenders and waitresses would stop asking for gratuities. It's likely they have a normal minimum wage for restaurant workers and you still get shamed for not tipping

>> No.12578743

Server here. Good. Fuck that guy.

>> No.12578756

>>12578725
i work in a place that pays well above min wage but we still accept tips. most people still tip but our average is like 10%. it mostly just takes the pressure of of the guest to support the staff and pressure off the server to have to deal with that. and we don't really care if the guests don't tip because it just goes into a big pool anyway

>> No.12578791

the worst part is it's the socialist types that get pissed at people who don't tip
instead of, you know, getting pissed at Porky Silverstein in the back not fulfilling what should be his legak obligation to PAY HIS FUCKING WORKERS
GREEDY FUCK
any self-proclaimed socialist who thinks the burden should be on the common man and not the wealthy guy up top ought to be hanged, worthless "human" beings can't even stick to their own principles

>> No.12578796

>>12578105
If it's mandatory, then it's not a tip. You pay a dinner fee.
Here in France, we give tips depending on how well the service was done.
Why is the tip mandatory in the US ?

>> No.12578801

>worked in pub as host
>make shit for wages
>make up for it in tips
>this sometimes means during busy hours I'm making $12/hrs
>if we're slow or dont make minimum wage then boss pays the difference to ensure we do earn a living wage
>love my job and so does everyone else

I have a penis btw, don't know if that matters

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>>12578743
>getting mad at the customer and not the greedy boss, even though you're the one getting fucked over every payday
I'd ask you what brand of shoe shine you recommend but I suppose you only know them by taste, not effectiveness

>> No.12578808

>>12578756
Yeah but how would I even know. Most places around here don't advertise the wages that they pay their staff so I'm just kind of always guilted into tipping no matter what

>> No.12578811

>>12578796
It isnt, some owners are just really shitty and some liberal wagies like to doctor this shit for attention.

>> No.12578820

Trolling aside 15% tip is pretty much mandatory (unless you aren’t white maybe). 10% would be a slight fuck you and good service should be 20%. They would have to fuck up pretty bad to not get any tip

>> No.12578824
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>>12578604
>bending over backwards this hard to defend third world tier labor laws

>> No.12578828

>>12578105
I'm American but I live in Washington state. We are one of the few states where its illegal for restaurants to take a "tip credit". All workers are paid minimum wage regardless of tips, tips just supplement your income. The rest of the country should fall in line.

>> No.12578830

>>12578808
we have a thing on the receipt that basically says tipping is not necessary

>> No.12578834

>>12578129
>mad Hohol thinking he speaks for most of Eastern Europe
Lmao

>> No.12578842

>>12578714
>we pay $15 an hour, there's no tipping
>okay I accept your job offer
>customers are clearly told there's no tips
>everyone is happy (except the jackass boomers who think tipping is what makes people give service)

>> No.12578881

>be expected to do thing
>don't do thing
>act like a victim when no one wants to be around you since you don't do thing

American companies have the freedom to ban any particular nigger they like. Good riddance to poorfags in nice restaurants. Where I work, we get together and shame them over Facebook collectively; your first and last name and phone number are on your reservation, stupid.

>>12578525
>>12578614
Not telling your server you won't tip, and then not tipping them - that is not brave and is not "standing up."
"Standing up" against tipping would be refusing to patronize places that use a tipping system and being vocal about it, encouraging other people to avoid such places.
But you don't do any of that, because you're not actually an activist, you don't actually care; that's just your go-to excuse to make yourself feel like less of a cheap piece of shit.
Can't afford to throw an 18-20% tip on that meal? Then you couldn't afford the meal, because that's part of it, and you knew that when you sat down.

>> No.12578882

>>12578791
>>12578549
>>12578118
>>12578112
Confirmed for no business sense.
Do you have any idea what restaurant profit margins are? They're shit. It's a business that people run out of creative desire, not for the money. There isn't some fat profit going into anyone's pocket at the back of 99% of restaurants. Most restaurants struggle to afford new equipment when they need it and are perpetually behind by about one major upgrade.

To increase the wage would seriously increase the cost of eating in these restaurants, but it would raise it by more than the server is getting in recompense. Tipping is a good faith system and works best for everyone involved, but only when people adhere to the "good faith" part.

Unfortunately, nigger mentality is rampant here.

>> No.12578884

>>12578881
People like you are why I don't have a public profile on social media.

>> No.12578901

>>12578881
if it's part of the meal then include it in the prices, otherwise YOU'RE the one being a sneaky jew

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>>12578884
And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.12578912

>>12578904
yeah, because social media is for normalfags
facebook specifically is for boomers

>> No.12578915

>>12578901
Who's being sneaky? You, your parents, your siblings, your boss, your coworkers, your friends, your doctor, your mailman, your neighbor - EVERYONE knows that tipping is appropriate and expected when table service is given.
For fuck's sake, do you need a giant neon sign pointing out the sidewalk for you? You're an adult, presumably, so act like one.

>> No.12578924

>>12578881
>>12578882
t. seething entitled waiter

>> No.12578925

>>12578915
yeah, just in burgerland. If it was at all normal and appropriate, then actual countries would be doing it.

>> No.12578926

>>12578901
the whole point of tips is that they are off the books
its basically just tax fraud

>> No.12578932

>>12578926
exactly

>> No.12578933

>>12578112
>>12578105
>city increased min wage to 15/hour
>people with a 4 year degree in entry level professional work are lucky to get 20/hour
>a waiter does jack shit all day and gets free food, no expectations in job, zero stress
>still expects a tip
haha no. this is extra-cancerous cancer.
YOU GOT YOUR 15/HOUR
AND YOU STILL WANT A FUCKING TIP

>> No.12578941

the only "tip" you'll get from me is the tip of my tiny asian penis rammed up your ear, pissing into it while I hold you down

>> No.12578944

>>12578820
>bringing a plate of expensive food is...uh...harder than bringing a plate of...cheap food...so pay us more
percentage is retarded.

>> No.12578950

>>12578756
Pooling tips and dividing among all workers is a pretty solid idea to me. I don’t understand why more places don’t implement this policy.

>> No.12578957

>>12578925
It's normal and appropriate in America, so when you're in America, you do American things.
The rest of the world doesn't hold a candle to the things America does. Maybe if they cared more about progress, freedom, and achievement, and less about sucking refugee cock, they could be great, too.

>>12578926
You have to report your tips. I've seen lots of people get audited for thousands of dollars for not doing it.
All credit card tips get automatically claimed. If you don't earn the same percentage of cash tips on cash sales that you earn in credit tips, then you'll be audited because they know you're hiding it.
The company gets audited too when their staff does, so every halfway decent restaurant is very good about making people claim.

Don't eat at Denny's/similar tier shitstaurants and you won't have to worry about your $5 going untaxed.

>> No.12578962

>>12578944
Working in a nice restaurant demands more expertise and harder work than working in a shitty corporate or diner, so yeah, the people who work there deserve more.
>waiting is only carrying plates wahhhh
Confirmed for never having eaten at an actual nice restaurant.

Maybe you should stop going out to eat and save money so you can buy yourself a life, and maybe then you'll understand the value of work.

>> No.12578971

Americans are a fucking joke.

>> No.12578973

>>12578957
>progress, freedom, and achievement
>this coming from the country that raped and shot at their own allies (each a seperate occasion) in WWII, let communism gain a foothold in latin america by making everyone there associate the opposition to communism with massacres and political censorship, and thinks a piece of yellow plastic is cheese

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12578975

>>12578957
>goblino starts channeling his inner fox news the moment he sees any criticism

>> No.12578976

>>12578933
>be me
>make 16/hour managing a repair center for a multimillion dollar education program
>after a 4 year college program in IT infrastructure and mathematics
>only make a dollar more than Tyrone and La-uh (pronounced LaDashUh) at the McDicky Hut

Sometimes I wish I were black. But then I think fuck that shit thank god I’m white.

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12578979

>not leaving counterfeit money as a tip
Come on now these are the easy tricks

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>>12578973
Go on, post what country you're from, and I'll post a bunch of completely off-topic old fuckups made by the people your grandparents voted for.

Or you could take five minutes of critical thinking to form an actual reply relevant to the topic at hand, but that might be too taxing on your tiny yuropoor mind.

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>> No.12578987

>>12578129
Seconded. I am venezuelan and whenever some fat American complains about capitalism and yearns for communism from their Starbucks posting on their iPhones I wish they get to experience first hand what communism is.
But don't bother on trying to reason with them, they'll tell you you're paid by the CIA or that ackshually is not real communism

>> No.12578991

>>12578983
nice try, but my "country" has been under american occupation for over a century, so all of the fuckups to speak of are still just yours
:^)

>> No.12578997

>>12578105
This restaurant should be publicly humiliated. Why is the name not on that image? I always tip, and tip very well. I don't support not tipping simply because you're cheap. But, I support a person's right not to tip. A restaurant getting pissy about not getting tips is completely out of line. A tip is always, always optional. That's the whole fucking point. Fuck non-tippers, but fuck this restaurant, too.

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>>12578979
>committing a felony is "an easy trick"
>facing a maximum sentence of 20 years in jail plus fines starting at $15,000 is "an easy trick"
Nigger mentality in America, everyone.

>> No.12579003

Sure are a lot of europoors and third worlders in here mad that we tip on our three feasts a day while they munch on their daily ration of salad and a random chicken part

>> No.12579004

>>12578991
Oh, so you mean your country belongs to my country, like a pet?
Then know your place.

>> No.12579012

>>12578962
>you've never eaten at a restaurant
>you should stop eating out

>b-b-b-b-b-b-being a waiter is hard!
LIterally. a trained monkey in a suit could be a waiter. Get a real job and lmk. There's a reason 16 year old kids work as waiters, brah.
>bbub-but you have to remember an ENTIRE menu, omg
get a real job, sweetie. I wish all I had to do was memorize one menu.

>> No.12579013

>>12578150
Bullshit. Unless it's written elsewhere that the gratuity is automatically added to the bill, the problem is the server's expectations of getting it. Gratuity is gratuity. Not an obligation. It's not the patron's job to remind the server that tips aren't mandatory

>> No.12579014

>>12579004
kek, if you wanna play that game, you're israel's pet
>>12579003
>three feasts a day
seems somewhat accurate given the obesity in the states, but I'd hardly call the stuff you gorge yourselves on "food", so not very impressive

>> No.12579024

>>12579000
as long as its marked as not legal tender its not a felony

>> No.12579025

>>12578536
>the servers need to stand against it,
Why on earth would servers stand against it? I waited tables for 2 years and made more than I do at my salaried job that required a college degree and 6 months internship. Any server that says they make less than $12 an hour is either an asshole to customers or given day shifts where nothing happens because they pissed off management.

>> No.12579029

>>12578976
This. this is why these min wage hikes can absolutely get fucked. min wage rises, no one else gets a raise, suddenly shit is more expensive and i went to college with 50k of debt to make $10 a day more than a starbucks floor-mopper.

waiters can get fucking rekt. fuck you.

>> No.12579030

>>12578950
i think it's a good intent but also front of house workers have a higher standard of dress and hygiene than kitchen, which has a direct material impact on them. so i think it should be slightly weighted toward serving staff

>> No.12579033

The absolute state of Mutt creatura damage control ITT

>> No.12579034

>>12578976
Youre severely underemployed, you should never had taken that job in the first place.

>> No.12579037

>>12578976
You need to find a new job. 16/h is very low for your qualifications

>> No.12579038

>>12578882
bad businesses should fail then.

>> No.12579046

>>12578882
tipping is a reward for excellent service, above and beyond normal, not an extra mandatory fee.

>> No.12579047

Waiters earn good money, the only ones who bitch about not being able to make a "living wage" are single-moms who have to raise their digusting misbehaving halfbreed brat by themselves because Tyrone fled the scene.

Waiter service in the US depending on state are quite high tier compared to the rest of the world, the reason for that is because they know they're making a fuckton of money if they're just nice.

>> No.12579049

>>12578976
>>12579029
>be retarded
>get owned by employers

>> No.12579050

>>12578801
Every single job that pays below minimum wage is required to pay you up to minimum wage if you don’t get enough tips. We had a bar get busted big time for that shit recently

>> No.12579060

>>12578150
a tip is a prize for doing an amazing job, not a participation trophy.

>> No.12579061

>>12578882
works fine for the entirety of the rest of the planet, rabbi.

>> No.12579065

Friendly reminder that communism WILL win

>> No.12579072

>>12578881
>Pay my staff so I don't have to, goy

>> No.12579075

>>12579065
that west point communist got a dishonorable discharge for that.

>> No.12579076

>>12579061
There’s a reason a lot of restaurants (globally) shut down during the first couple of years, anon

>> No.12579080

>>12579076
that's a good thing, retard. If your restaurant isn't good enough to stand on its own two legs without subsidies, you should fail.

>> No.12579084

>>12578105
australians don't have this problem. we actually pay staff well.

>> No.12579093

>>12579076
>Failed businesses should be kept alive artificially by donations (tips)

>> No.12579096

>>12578957
>The rest of the world doesn't hold a candle to the things America does. Maybe if they cared more about progress, freedom, and achievement, and less about sucking refugee cock, they could be great, too.
Imagine unironically thinking and saying this

>> No.12579106

>>12578105
>totally not staged even here
>remember to tip in CASH!!!! Us waitresses need to keep that tax free!

Abolish tip culture and force standard minimum wages, watch every wait staff cry

>> No.12579111

ITT burgers try to defend one of the objectively stupidest things about their culture

>> No.12579113

>>12579012
>There's a reason 16 year old kids work as waiters, brah.
Again, confirmed for never having ventured past the corporate chain offerings of a small Midwestern town. Doesn't your lack of scope embarrass you? Or are you too ignorant to recognize it?
I manage a place where you have to have a level 1 Sommelier designation to start work. Tell me more about your monkey theory, faggot.

>>12579046
>above and beyond normal
You saying this doesn't make it true. It is expected, normalized, and an everyday occurrence. You know when you sit down for table service you are expected to pay for it, just like when you take candy from the cancer kid donation box, you're expected to leave fifty cents.

Do you steal candy from cancer kids, too?

>>12579061
Does it work for them? Do you know why?
Where in the world besides America have you been to restaurants, sat down, and ate? International McDonald's do not count.

>>12579072
Everything in a restaurant is paid for by guests. The rent, utilities, salaries, food costs, food waste, chemicals, air conditioning, new carpet.. are you stupid? That's how business works.

Either you pay the server directly, or the price of the server's wage PLUS the tax the employer pays on the extra wage PLUS the wage of the new person who goes into accounting to manage all the extra paychecks - you pay for all of it. Whatever money is exchanged comes from the guests.
That's what a business fucking is, you braindead mop.

>> No.12579114

>>12578957
based retard

>> No.12579131

>>12579113
>Does it work for them? Do you know why?
Not him, but are you retarded or something?

>> No.12579152

>>12579113
>Where in the world besides America have you been to restaurants, sat down, and ate?
japan, greece, lebanon, and finland. works fine for them.

>> No.12579155

If waiting service were optional, then you should pay for it. But if I walk into red lobster and I HAVE to be seated by a waitress, can't just waltz over to whatever empty booth I want, I HAVE to let the waitress write down my order, no option to have written it before coming myself, not allowed to walk into the kitchen and put the order up, not allowed to grab my own biscuits or refill my own drink, and none of this was my choice, why would I pay for it? The system is in place solely to keep pods from running in and taking the crab forks and sugar packets (they aren't at the table anymore despite sugar being so fucking cheap and replacable), why should I pay for THEIR security? Why not just put a lock on the door that takes 5 dollars to open if you're going to shove this down our throats?

>> No.12579181

>>12579155
phone in a takeout order and don't tip on it genius

>> No.12579186

>>12579113
> It is expected, normalized, and an everyday occurrence.

no it's not, and I will help it not be.

>Do you steal candy from cancer kids, too?

yes. they can't fight back.

>> No.12579189

>>12579181
Can only do that once or they'll start spitting in your food.

>> No.12579197

>>12579113
>PLUS the wage of the new person who goes into accounting to manage all the extra paychecks
This is retarded bud, servers already getting paid hourly in addition to tips.

>> No.12579201

>>12579189
If you pick up your own takeout order why the fuck would you tip?

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>>12578882
>To increase the wage would seriously increase the cost of eating in these restaurants

Good. Only the worthy restaurants and those which pay a dignified wage will survive. People will eat out less and learn to cook at home.

It's a win-win situation as far as I see it.

>> No.12579230

>>12578150
>>12578105
Restaurants in most states are required to pay waiters minimum wage if the server's tips don't meet or exceed it. The "waiters only get paid $2/hr" excuse is bullshit.

>> No.12579234

>>12578129
At least you have some kind of country. America is literally a country where anybody can do anything from anywhere. We have no sense of who we are as a people and our politicians are selling us out. They won't even secure our border dude. And don't forget about all the social liberalism. Lgbt, abortion, and consumerism is everywhere. You can't escape. I'd rather be poor and be surrounded by my people than be "rich."

>> No.12579241

>>12579113
restaurants aren't a business, they're a con.

>> No.12579250 [DELETED] 

>>12579234
>Does it work for them? Do you know why?
That‘s only because you ARE poor.

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>>12578971
>America America America America did I mention how little I think about America

>> No.12579255

>>12579234
>I'd rather be poor and be surrounded by my people than be "rich."
That‘s only because you ARE poor.

>> No.12579260

>>12578723
No restaurants are going under because they lost a single patron either

>> No.12579274

>>12579230
Not to mention if you aren't making at least minimum wage with your tips you are a horrible fucking waiter, the restaurant is completely empty, or you are waiting on NEETs from /ck/ all day.

>> No.12579278

>>12579255
I'm middle class.

>> No.12579280

>>12579278
Whatever you have to tell yourself to cope.

>> No.12579282

>>12578950
Awful idea. Punishes the highest performing employees and rewards the shitheel slackers.

>> No.12579295

>>12579234
>anybody can do anything from anywhere
No shit! How do you think America got started to begin with? Trump himself descended from immigrants. Just what do you think America 'should' be when it's a mixture of so many cultures, not just 'European'?

>> No.12579308

>>12579047
This honestly. On a busy brunch service I used to make $400.
Felt like I earned every cent though. Set up, break down, and 8 hours of dealing with the general public is exhausting.

>> No.12579310

>>12578950
>divided equally among all workers
>Jack waited hand and foot on six tables and provided excellent service, earning $40 dollars in tips
>Jason is less hardworking and earned $10 dollars in tips
>both of them get $25 dollars for their efforts

>> No.12579322

>>12579310
If an employee is that bad consistently they’re already losing the company business one way or another.

>> No.12579323

>>12579230
How naive can a person be

>> No.12579332
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>>12579234
>social liberalism
>bad
Dont you have some hay to thresh somewhere oatis?

>> No.12579335

>>12578112
Maybe you should stop eating out if you can't afford to tip 43%.

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>>12579332
>social liberalism
>good

>> No.12579360

>>12579310
>if Jason had worked as hard as Jack they would both have $40
>now Jason is going to get fucked in the ass by Jack and every other hardworking waiter who got less money because of him
>afterwards Jason is going to work harder and bring in morr business instead of being a slob content with his $10 that tarnishes the restaurant‘s reputation
Not rocket science.

>> No.12579369

>>12578997
>Fuck non-tippers
You ruined your post.

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>>12579337
>it‘s bad because people are allowed to have opinions I don‘t share

>> No.12579374

>>12579360
I worked as a bartender at a chain restaurant for a couple of years and all I can say is, if you pay servers a straight wage without tips, you are going to make an already lazy fucking occupation completely worthless. At least for quite awhile. People who haven't worked I'm restaurants have no idea how fucking entitled and bitchy servers are.

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>>12579370
>it's good because people only get to have free speech if their opinions agree with mine otherwise it's hate speech and a crime.

>> No.12579381

>>12578882
>oink oink

>> No.12579387

>>12579379
Whomst the fuck are you quoting?

>> No.12579388

>>12578105
People who don't tip generally are people I don't want dining near me anyway so I applaud this restaurant for banning scum. Good on them.

>> No.12579390

>>12579387
Go back and stay there

>> No.12579394

>>12579337
>Oh shit someone dressed differently to me! That clearly out weighs the core ideas of western culture!
Stop being such a tribal animal and engage your higher reasoning for 5 seconds.

>> No.12579393

>>12578105
>I want want pay my employees well. It's your fault for not doing my work, fuck you mr. customer!

I would ruin this place on social media. They would be out of business if they pulled this shit with me.

>> No.12579396

>>12579388
Back to work.

>> No.12579397

>>12579374
I worked in pub in college and pretty much everyone tried their hardest while being paid a good wage.

>> No.12579400

>>12579390
>poledditor with no arguments goes for canned response
What a surprise.

>> No.12579402

>>12579396
>implying neets can afford to go out to nice restaurants

>> No.12579404

>>12579394
Completely missed the point. The modem left are authoritarian as fuck. Authoritarian governments are the stepping stone of fascism. You nutjob leftists are quickly becoming the very thing you claim to be fighting against but are so brainwashed and narcissistic that you would rather go to the grave denying it rather than admit you're wrong.

>> No.12579409

>>12578143
It's literally called debasing the currency, engaging in Ricardian free trade, and allowing immigration. If those three things weren't done, we would have a healthy economy on the macro and micro levels.

>> No.12579410

>>12579400
>Whomst the fuck are you quoting?
The irony

>> No.12579412

>>12579379
Does going straight for the strawman with no attempt to obfuscate it usually work for you?

>> No.12579415

>>12578882
>t's a business that people run out of creative desire, not for the money.

Confirmed for knowing fuck all about the restaurant business and also for being a moron and a cunt

>> No.12579419

>>12579396
That's right, people like you NEET. Go order Domino's and stay the hell out of the places I like to eat you greasy, fat, mess of a man.

>> No.12579424

>be american
>be born
>leave a tip

>> No.12579428

>>12579410
There‘s no irony at all, rebbit. Lurk 3 years before posting again.

>> No.12579427

>>12579412
It's not a strawman when its reality Sebastian. You can kick and scream all you want in denial. I'm never going Democrat and I will be voting for trump in 2020.

>> No.12579432

>>12579409
>reads mankiw once
You have to go back, Krugman.

>> No.12579434

>>12579419
wagie ragie

>> No.12579437

>>12579428
>t. been here for a week
It's cute trying to see you newfags try and blend in.

>> No.12579439

>>12578105
I live in Ireland and have only tipped once because I knew the waitress. It's not the norm here but people still do it and the staff do expect it, I assume. Usually the bill is just rounded up by the customer. A tip should be a little extra for someone if they went out of their way to make the experience better not a mandatory payment out of fear of having your food tampered with. Is it true Americans tip in a bar so the barman will serve them?

>> No.12579441

>>12579434
Which is funny because your single mother whi supports you is a waitress who lives off of tips.

>> No.12579442

>>12578882
>tells people they have no business sense
>doesn't understand how restaurants work in the rest of the world outside of the US
Every day I am astonished at how dumb my fellow Americlaps are capable of being.

>> No.12579444

>>12579437
>n-no u
Poleddit, please.

>> No.12579443

>>12579428
I've been here since 2008 and have posted like 50 times. Including this high quality post

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>>12579432
Take it back

>> No.12579450

>>12579360
This or you just assign different portions of the pie to different positions and experience. Here’s a hot take: most servers don’t share what they’ve been given as a tip. They look at it see it as theirs because they brought the food from the kitchen to the table. But what about the cooks who made the food? Or the hostess for providing a table to sit at? Or how the expo makes sure the orders are correct and moved on time? My issue is that people don’t understand that the restaurant is successful when they work together in their respective positions. I don’t think tipping is inherently bad. If you believe someone provided better than expected service and you want to show that to them by slipping them some cash money by all means go for it. But it’s this weird sense of entitlement from servers that turns me off from the whole thing. Like I’m supposed to give you one because of your difficult plight. I give what I can when I can and when I can’t well I can’t and that’s that.

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>>12579444
>doubling down
Embarrassing.

>> No.12579456

>>12579441
>here's your food sir, please donate to my Patreon
Embarassing.

>> No.12579459

>>12579404
No I didnt, you posted a picture of someone who ostensibly isnt heteronormative as a rebuttal to me saying social liberalism is good. Social liberalism is quite literally the cornerstone of western democracy.
> You nutjob leftists
You know precisely nothing about me, character assassination makes you a cretin.
> The modem left are authoritarian as fuck
Government is authoritarian as fuck, by design. You want to know what is also authoritarian? Conservative politics, by definition.

You have no idea what you are talking about vis a vis political theory and no idea how to properly conduct an argument, just quit while you are ahead.

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>>12579453
>N-NO U

>> No.12579464

>>12579450
Nope. The restaurant I worked at the servers didn't have to tip anybody out. Not even the bar staff. Then they would have the audacity to bitch and complain their whole shift. I've never been that owe to shooting up my workplace before. One of the reasons I don't dine out anymore is I'm not supporting servers in anyway.

>> No.12579470

>>12579427
You invented a new proposition because your previous one was idiotic and you have no rebuttal, that is a strawman.

>> No.12579480

>>12579230

lol that fucking system is built with the idea to bypass minimum wage. oh the land of the free. :^)

>> No.12579481

>>12579439
>Is it true Americans tip in a bar so the barman will serve them?
you tip so they'll serve you first.
if you don't tip you automatically go to the bottom of the priority list.

feels great to saunter up to the bar, have the bartender immediately spot me and serve me before all the plebs.

>> No.12579485

>>12579427
>he doesnt understand the political spectrum
>he doesnt realize the republicans are actually closer to classic liberalism than the dems
Holy shit America is fucked.

>> No.12579489

>>12579450
>Here’s a hot take: most servers don’t share what they’ve been given as a tip
every restaurant ive ever worked at we tipped out the bartenders, hosts, and bussers.

>> No.12579490

>>12579481
This is especially true for really busy bars. If some NEET doesn't tip the bartender he will never get served again. It's glorious.

>> No.12579491

>>12579481
How much do you tip? Does it not get expensive?

>> No.12579493

>>12579464

>assuming everybody's like that

autism, much?

>> No.12579496

>>12579485
>conservatives are classic liberals
>liberals are socialists
Yeah I know retard.

>> No.12579499

>>12578987
communism had nothing to do with Venezuela fucking up their own golden goose or the CIA trying to stage a coup plus we all know you're not really from Venezuela just a sad LARPer trying desperately to "redpill" people

>> No.12579500

>>12579491
standard is about a dollar a drink. more if it's a labor intensive cocktail or you want to make an impression.

>> No.12579501

>>12579491
Generally if you start a tab you just tip on the total. 10-15% or if you pay cash usually you just round up your total for a beer. If a beer is $3.25 you would just give $4 and tell them to keep the change.

>> No.12579503

>>12578143
>medical, education and housing
>3 areas the government is heavily involved in
Really makes you think

>> No.12579504

>>12579337
>>12579379
>social liberalism means leftism means the precise strain of ultracontemporary American regressive left
Are Amerigoblins even human?

>> No.12579506

How do you determine whom to tip and whomstdve no? Like, do I have to tip the mailman? If so, how do I determine the amount? Let's say I buy a new monitor on Amazon, does the delivery person get 15% of the cost of the item, or the sender's fee? Do I have to tip cashiers? What about the cable guy? Street sweepers? Bus drivers? Flight attendants? Prostitutes?!

>> No.12579507

>>12579493
A majority is like that and you can't deny it.

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>>12579504
Seething bong

>> No.12579512

>>12579506
i'll only tell you if you tip me 20%

>> No.12579513

>>12579506
Jesus you better stay in the nanny state of Europe bud.

>> No.12579515

>>12579230
Not to mention 1/3 of the country (the entire west coast and other major areas like NYC) requires cash wage as minimum before tips. Waiters/bartenders/valets/etc are hilariously entitled about their unskilled labor jobs.

>> No.12579517

>>12579501
>>12579500
Not too bad. Rounding up makes sense.

>> No.12579518

>>12579504
Short answer is no. The european powers fucking up badly enough to allow their rise was a colossal mistake.

>> No.12579520

>>12579510
>he doesn‘t know how to kill people with a whisk
American education.

>> No.12579524

>>12579513
I'm not a yuro, friend.

>> No.12579526

>>12579506
>whomstdve

Kys

>> No.12579529

>>12579252
>an obese, naked retard goes running around the room, shitting all over the floor every day
>"hey guys, is nobody going to bring up the naked fatty running around shitting everywhere or-
>"All you do is talk about shitting fat retards Tim. Is that your fucking fetish or something? Do you ever talk about anything else?"

>> No.12579533

>>12579515
You've never worked as a valet before obviously. It's shit work. I never met a valet that was entitled, they were mostly just looking for new jobs to get the fuck out of the hellhole they were in.

>> No.12579538

>>12579520
All they know is
>LOUD BANG BANG MAKE MAN GO AWAY

Such an uncultured """people"""

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>>12579529
Jesus Christ you yuropoors are some delusional mother fuckers. I guess communism will do that.

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>>12579485
>christcuckolds that still struggle with separation of church and state
>close to classical liberals

>> No.12579544

>>12578881
>Standing up" against tipping would be refusing to patronize places that use a tipping system and being vocal about it, encouraging other people to avoid such places.
I sort of do this. I don't scream at people and wave signs or anything, but I've told my friends that I generally avoid sit down restaurants because I don't believe in the tipping system.

>> No.12579547

>>12579506
We tip the postman at Christmas time here

>> No.12579548

>>12579538
Absolutely and unequivocally seething bong

>> No.12579552

>>12579539
>european
>implying
not that you'd know what europeans are like, you've never seen the color white in your life except for when Shlomo finishes all over your face

>> No.12579554

>>12579544
And your friends all call you an autist when they go out to eat and have a good time.

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>>12579542
>t.

>> No.12579568

>>12579547
garbagemen too

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>>12579552
Sure thing bong

>> No.12579570

>>12579552
It’s sad that this is he kind of weird shit that bounces around your head all day.

>> No.12579572

>>12578105
Fucking star people and their constant need for more coins. It's called pay your workers. Gets banned from the resturant becuase owner is an unironic retard. Only in American restaurants could idiocy like this happen .

>> No.12579573

>>12578137
>Tito takes out IMF loan to support an industry operating at deficit
>Dies and debt reaches payment deadline
What an economic genius, it was so much better when he was around!

>> No.12579577

>>12579562
>no arguments
As expected.

>> No.12579580

>>12578882
Depends on the restaurant. It's very obvious a lot of restaurants have a hugely inflated sense of importance, as do you.

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>>12579552
What's your ancestry, mall shitter?
Black, Mexican or a bit of both?

>> No.12579585

>>12579252
Do you know how a bald eagle sounds? Just like you faggot, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlq2kcYQcLc
glorified seagull

>> No.12579590

>>12579572
>implying we want poor people dining with us.

>> No.12579600

>>12579569
if I was an anglo I'd be busy trying to find a plastic surgeon that could make me not look like a weasel
>>12579570
just because your head is hollow enough that there's room for things to bounce around doesn't mean everyone else's is
>>12579583
>or a bit of both
I'd say you were describing yourself but the typical american is a mix of much more than just two things
but hey, your grandpappy swore up and down you're 1.25% white, and if that's true then it makes you the closest thing to a white person that could be found in your god-forsaken "country"

>> No.12579610

>>12579600
I‘m not any of the guys you replied to or American, but you sound like one extremely assblasted thirdie.

>> No.12579615

>>12579600
>if I was an anglo I'd be busy trying to find a plastic surgeon that could make me not look like a weasel
Well at least you aren't completely retarded

>> No.12579619

>>12579610
I'll never understand the obsession with a country they have never visited before. I don't ever wonder what goes on in Europe nor do I care.

>> No.12579621

>>12579610
I respect your opinion because you aren't American, and that's enough for me.

>> No.12579622

>>12578105
Look at that fat, balding fuck. Of course he's a cheapskate.

>> No.12579629

>>12579619
>Europe is a country
Kek.
Retard.

>> No.12579630

>>12579619
>I‘ll never understand why people know stuff while I don‘t

>> No.12579635

>wake up
>tip the alarm clock
>forgot to tip the garbagemen last night so they threw my trash through the window
>have a quick morning fap
>have to use lube because I gave my tip to the doctor when I was born
>tip-toe to the kitchen
>my TV is gone because I didn't tip my dog to bark at intruders
>a $20 bill is sitting where the TV used to be
>wtf not even 15%, cheap bastard thief

>> No.12579638

>>12579619
not him but I live in the white house and I'm currently pooping in the sink of an unused room
AMA me anything

>> No.12579645

guys we need to be like in undertale and all be peaceful with each other

>> No.12579650

>>12579638
>AMA me anything
>ask me anything me anything
You having a stroke?

>> No.12579651

>>12578105
Everyone in this thread is a teenager

>> No.12579659

>>12579651
That would be less sad than it really is.

>> No.12579663 [DELETED] 

>>12579650
t. a wise person /s

>> No.12579669 [DELETED] 

>>12579651
actually not until next year THEN ill be a teenager :/

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>>12579663
>/s

>> No.12579677

>>12579629
I was talking about the US you literal mongrel
>>12579630
You don't know shit about the states you Muslim.

>> No.12579683 [DELETED] 

woa, RACIST!!!
:/

>> No.12579699

>>12579677
>oh no no no no that‘s not the real US
SEETHING

>> No.12579700 [DELETED] 

@everyone you guys need to calm down
don't make me start handing out warnings

>> No.12579708

>>12579700
The only thing worse than a Jannie is a wannabe Jannie.

>> No.12579710 [DELETED] 

>>12579677
at least muslims don't suck israeli cock all day
...well, except the wahhabis. Fuck those dudes.

>> No.12579711

>>12579700
You need to fuck off and drink some bleach, tranny janny.

>> No.12579715 [DELETED] 

my favorite youtuber just linked this thread why are you guys so racist
america is the good guys

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pokephile thread? pokephile thread.

>> No.12579735

>>12579700
Kys

>> No.12579737 [DELETED] 

>>12579724
>forgot to remove the name
fuck, i crossed the shitposting streams
we're all gonna die

>> No.12579744

>>12578105
>order takeout
>driver is 20+ years older than me, making a third of what i make
>hands me 30 dollars worth of food that would likely bankrupt him if he were to eat out like that
>no tip
lmfao

>> No.12579746 [DELETED] 

>>12579485
>>12579562
>>12579412
samefag

>> No.12579747

>>12579715
Link?

>> No.12579752

>>12579744
Nice I hope you also beat up old ladies and kick puppies Haha so epic

>> No.12579760 [DELETED] 

no hes not link thats the guy from super smash bros idiot

>> No.12579763

>>12579752
get smarter if you don't want life to suck

>> No.12579771 [DELETED] 

>>12579510
>>12579491
>>12579456
>>12579459
>>12579453
>>12579444
>>12579746
>>12579737
>>12579724
fucking trotskyist scum

>> No.12579780 [DELETED] 

>>12579638 >>12579645
>>12579663 >>12579669
>>12579683 >>12579700
>>12579715 >>12579724
>>12579737 >>12579746
>>12579760 >>12579771
all me

>> No.12579782

>>12579763
>missing the point

Even Confucius knew better 2500 years ago, imagine being this far behind human development. I'll quote you the bit if you like but you may want to sign up for some adult tutoring.

>> No.12579790

>>12579782
yeah, uhhhhhhh can i get the veggie lo mein, one of theeeeee... general tso's combos, and an order of rangoons?

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proof

>> No.12579799

>>12578129
there are political positions between loving capitalism and loving communism you dumb cunt
, not every critique of capitalism needs to be answered with "UHHH COMMUNISM IS BAD"

>> No.12579805

>>12579790
Didnt mean to hurt your feelings anon, sorry

>> No.12579806

>>12579799
>UHHH COMMUNISM IS BAD
True, he probably never lived under communism and besides it’s not like real communism has even been tried yet.

>> No.12579812

>>12578882
>Do you have any idea what restaurant profit margins are? They're shit.
lol bro, like just increase the prices dude.

>> No.12579822

>>12579795
I just lost The Game

>> No.12579827 [DELETED] 
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12579827

Dear 4chan,
It's us, Anonymous, once again. Except this time it's the leader speaking.
We are finished with your child pornography, gore, and cruel jokes that spread like a snakes bite and ruin the internet. Where have all of the internet's problems come from? Reddit? 9gag? No, no.
Here.
Tonight at 12:00am Pacific Time 4chan will officially come to an end.
"kek u cant do sh*t"
Not only do I have my hacking skills and team aside me, but I also have 9gag, the founding website of Anonymous, aside us.
You're probably all thinking
"DARNIT GUYS WHAT DO WE DO"
There is one thing you CAN do. Surrender. I want Moot and Heaven here, with the ID and everything, saying sorry, and banning all of things disgusting things from your website.
As of now, you have 3 and a half hours.
The clock is ticking, gentlemen.

We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.

- The Leader

>> No.12579835 [DELETED] 

GUYS ANONIMUS IS HACKING US!
WE NEED TO MAKE A HACKING TEAM TO FIGHT BACK! ILL LEAD IT CALL ME HACKERLEADER

>> No.12579843 [DELETED] 

ALRIGHT GUYS START HACKING UPSTREAM INTO THEYRE HACK AND FIND THE SOURCE
ILL LOOK 4 CLUES

>> No.12579851

>>12578105
So, like, does this have a source or what

>> No.12579858

>>12579827
Why did you post this on /ck/ and not a board people will actually pay attention to? Is it because you're gay?

>> No.12579868 [DELETED] 

i get linked here and anonymus is already hacking it? UH they follow me everywhere and ruin EVERYTHING
thatts it its time to FIGHT BACK!
#JoshTheRevolution

>> No.12579873

Best thread on 4channel atm

>> No.12579875 [DELETED] 

#IStandWithJosh
#JoshLeader
#JoshHacker
#YOLOSWAG

>> No.12579884 [DELETED] 

>>12579873
you're welcome.

>> No.12579891 [DELETED] 

nice to see people supporting me. Im cuming anonomus. Im comming for you HARD

>> No.12579931

we are all wish josh and he has big muscles and is the ultimate gamer and hacker you better run away
i am anobymos and i am running away because hes cumming (thats how british ppl spel it im british)

>> No.12579939

WTH*LL ANONIMUS IS DELETING THE EVIDENCE WE NEED TO STOP THEM!!!!!!!!

>> No.12579944

alright the mods decided to be giant flunked bitchholes so I'm packing it up
later, fags

>> No.12579970

>>12579515
it's not hard work in itself, shitty restaurants using old systems and rules being run by old, out-of-touch management makes it much harder than it has to be. dealing with the nonsensical bullshit as it comes is what takes patience and skill. you can spot the entitled assholes because they ask for service as they think it should be and then complain when it isn't. normal people have already learned to roll with the punches.

>> No.12579979

>>12578105
I hate threads like this because unironically all of the soyboys and Europeans will come out of the woodwork to say
>muh living wages
>muh capitalism bad
>muh dick

Europeans don’t realize that under the EU they have the combined economic power of over a dozen countries with a lower population by a large amount so all this free healthcare/education bullshit is a lot more feasible than living in US and having a huge country with a huge economy.

Then all the poor, uneducated wagies come out and blame inflation/lack of better wages, but are too stupid to realize that increasing wages literally demands inflation, and that by increasing wages in one part of the country (California, NY, etc) but not others, than all of the poorest, stupidest people will literally flood that part of the country to get more money from the shit-tier jobs they’re forced to work by being poor/stupid. Fuck you /ck/

>> No.12580001
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12580001

>actually going to r*staurants
I thought this board was for cooks

>> No.12580007

> go to japan
> no tip is ever expected
> leave money on the table and they'll chase after you and give it back
based japs

>> No.12580037

You will find plenty more restauranteurs that do not possess the foresight, or logic reasoning, to realize that the tip problem lies with themselves.

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12580270

>>12578743
>talentless unskilled bread monkey has to rely on the kindness of others to afford their own bread

>> No.12580294

>>12578991
Lmfao, so you're from a weak and useless people that's owned by the US. Have fun not having your own culture anymore, just like Iraq.