/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12527251]

Is it Greek culture to overcook meat? Because so far every Greek restaurant I've been to had very dry meat. Good salads, good fries, but the meat... I don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.12527261]

Greek food is the worst in Europe.

[Anonymous No.12527265]

>>12527251
Yes. Peasant culture.

[Anonymous No.12527269]

>>12527251
For some reason they're really good at seafood but always insist on overcooking meat, like it's part of the culture to chew a lot.

[Anonymous No.12527276]

>>12527269
>>12527265
>>12527261
That explains a few things.

[Anonymous No.12527281]

>>12527251
How come whenever I look for Greek food it's just an Indian/Paki place under the guise of being "mediterranian"?

[Anonymous No.12527285]

are you people nuts? nothing of this is true.

[Anonymous No.12527295]

>>12527285
Yes it is.
t. Peasant Grecian

[Anonymous No.12527297]

I mainly just find they overcook chicken sometimes. The local greek place here has excellent lamb and beef souvlaki that is always cooked to perfection, and their rack of lamb is to die for.

[Anonymous No.12527299]

>>12527285
I've been to two Greek restaurants the last month and it's been true of both of them. Doesn't seem like a coincidence.

[Anonymous No.12527301]

>>12527285

I beg to differ, stavros. I stand by my earlier statement that Greek food would make a German dog puke.

[Anonymous No.12527303]

>>12527295
*greasers

[Anonymous No.12527306]

you should be glad they cook their meat thoroughly because they handled it with bare hands and dont wash their hands

[Anonymous No.12527309]

>>12527299
>>12527301

There is a LOT of shitty greek food out there, but if you find a place that does it right, you're golden. It's the same with Italian.

[Anonymous No.12527310]

>>12527261
>>12527301
Greek food cannot be the worst in Europe because the United Kingdom exists
>J-j-just a meme!
It's abject truth. Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.12527311]

>>12527281
Because Indians and Greeks are both smelly hairy shitskins so it's impossible to tell them apart.

[Anonymous No.12527318]

>>12527311
Greeks used to be based until they got bootyblasted by the turkroaches for centuries.

[Anonymous No.12527319]

>>12527310
I don't think that shit can be called food.

[Anonymous No.12527320]

>>12527310

Sobbing Greek I suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.12527347]

>>12527251
unfortunately I had the same experience, all great but damn the meat was dry

[Anonymous No.12527360]

>>12527347
It's been my experience as well

[Anonymous No.12527368]

>>12527310

I think most people would prefer a steak pie to a plate of lukewarm octopus and a glass of wine that tastes like fucking Christmas trees.

Moussaka isn't bad, but everywhere in the Balkans makes it, and Greek is the worst version.

[Anonymous No.12527386]

Greek food is really good.

I fucking love the OPAH cheese.

[Anonymous No.12527388]

>>12527310
Anon, it has to be edible to be considered food.

[Anonymous No.12527393]

Never really cared for Greek or any type of Mediterranean or middle eastern food for this exact reason. Everything is over cooked and tastes like the same spices and herbs. No thanks.

[Anonymous No.12527414]

>>12527393
>olive oil
>garlic
>lemon
>oregano
That's greek cuisine

[Anonymous No.12527528]

>>12527251
Are you guys talking about fully cooked meat or what?

[Anonymous No.12527580]

Unless you've eaten Greek food in Greece, you can't comment.

[Anonymous No.12527590]

>bascially just turkish cuisine
the balkans was better off under the boot of the Ottomans

[Anonymous No.12527612]

>>12527310
The UK can't have the worst food in Europe because Scandinavia exists.

[Anonymous No.12527653]

>>12527251
As a greek I can tell you that greek restaurants are the worst place to get greek food. They're rip offs that use the shittiest ingredients available and untrained cooks.
If you can't stand greeks enough to befriend one and get invited to their house for dinner then unfortunately you're never going to eat proper greek food.

[Anonymous No.12527725]

>>12527653
>f you can't stand greeks enough to befriend one and get invited to their house for dinner then unfortunately you're never going to eat proper greek food.

I think I'll survive without having your sister moult back hair into my spanakopita, thanks anyway zorba. Stick your tepid garbage food up your dad's gaping arse.

[afatoldman No.12527739]

Here the overcooked meat is usually drowned in Tzatziki or Ranch, so being a little dry doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.12527771]

>>12527725
Nice spacing reddit friendo.

[Anonymous No.12527786]

>>12527580
>You have to have the most authentic experience to truly enjoy it!
Fuck off, the sushi in Japan tastes just like the sushi anywhere by the ocean.

[Anonymous No.12527796]

>>12527771

>summerfag tries to fit in

[Anonymous No.12527818]

>>12527796

[Anonymous No.12527830]

>>12527818

[Anonymous No.12528099]

>>12527251
just ask for less cooked meat you enormous nigger
eating out is trash anyway

[Anonymous No.12528117]

Demi Greek here (I'm from Italy, but an historically Greek-speaking area so technically Greek).
Honestly, I think it's because of the heavy influence of Turkish and Arab culture in their cooking. Turks/Arabs don't like "blood" in their meat because their book tells them it is forbidden so they overcook the shit out of everything. Greeks do the same thing with meat and I know most of the food Greek Greeks eat is just ripped off of Turkish/Arab stuff so maybe that's why.
Since the Turks never set foot in Italy, we're more Greek than the Greeks themselves are. Our version of the Greek language lacks the Turkish/Arab loanwords and our meat is overcooked to fuck and back.

[Anonymous No.12528121]

>>12527580
I've had Greek food on Paxos, Corfu and the mainland. The meat is just as overcooked there as it is abroad. Better vegetable dishes, tho.

[Anonymous No.12528131]

>>12528117
Our meat ISN'T overcooked to fuck and back, I meant. sry : (

[Anonymous No.12528202]

>>12527251
eating blood is a barbaric thing, the greeks are civilized

[Anonymous No.12528205]

>>12527261
See
>>12527310

[Anonymous No.12528231]

>>12528202
The red stuff that comes out of meat isn't blood

[Anonymous No.12529312]

>>12527309
>same with italian
no

>>12527251
if you put five french fries on my plate, i'll throw the plate at you

[Anonymous No.12529322]

>>12529312
>throws the plate
Opa!

[Anonymous No.12529325]

>>12527251
overcooking is a new technique used in cookery classes where instructors are teaching new students about the art and science of cooking. It's similar in concept to what you would see at home cooking class, but is used in the culinary field to help students learn more about the science of making foods and to get a taste of the amazing possibilities they can achieve.
The first of these classes involved me recording my cooking experience as a
self-taught chef . I'll be describing it all here as this is a quick write-up, not even covering much of the science behind food or the techniques that are used to produce dishes. This is just a short, quick guide and isn't meant to be a complete explanation of just the science of cooking. But I wanted to share a few of the fun and exciting results that came out of this class after the first week of instruction.
The science of food Science of the human body Food is a very complex subject and while it is only around 60 years old now, food isn't very complex. We eat in multiple forms and in many different dishes, but "process" food is one of our most loved experiences in life. It is so simple that we forget how complex the world really is. Our bodies, organs, brains, and seatings are all decided based off of this

[Anonymous No.12529357]

Greek-American here. My dad owned restaurants when I was growing up. Allow me to provide some insight.

So Greeks have a thing about blood in their meat. You have to keep in mind that most of the meat consumed in Greece is pork and chicken, so "medium rare" isn't really a thing. Lamb is not as commonly eaten as people would have you believe. Greece is a leader in lamb consumption only because when lamb is eaten, it's eaten in VERY large quantities on holidays such as Easter or August 15th.

Only people who have been abroad appreciate a rare to medium steak. A couple of summers ago I was at my cousin's restaurant in Greece and he told me he got some nice beef steaks in and I told him to bring me one cook medium and he refused and said he wasn't going to be responsible for getting me sick and brought me a steak burnt to fuck instead.

Also, one of the most popular events of the year is called "Tsiknopempti." It's the Thursday before the Orthodox Church says you have to stop eating meat for Lent (Orthodox fasting requires that you abstain from meat and dairy products for the full 40 days, not just Fridays). Tsiknopempti literally means "Burnt Thursday." So everyone cooks a fucking shit load of meat and the villages and towns are filled with smoke.

Please enjoy this picture of my homemade souvlaki I had to make in the oven because my apartment won't let me keep a fucking small grill on my balcony. Pita and tzatziki are also from scratch.

[Anonymous No.12529371]

>>12529357
So >>12528117 was right?

[Anonymous No.12529383]

>>12529357
Follow up to this. Going to address some of the concerns ITT about Greek restaurants being the same.

It's because you're eating the exact same food at every restaurant. I don't mean the recipes. I mean the "gyro" you are eating is a frozen cone loaf coming from one of two suppliers in Chicago. It's either Kronos or Corfu Foods frozen gyro cones (pictured). It's mostly breadcrumbs, soy, and MSG. "Beef and lamb" gyros are non-existent in Greece. Pita gyro sandwiches are made with pork or chicken.

Pastitsio and moussaka are also bought and frozen. My dad made his own, but most Greek restaurant owners are either too lazy to do so, or the Mexicans can't pick up the sauce recipe so you cut out the labor and buy it frozen.

[Anonymous No.12529394]

>>12527786
T. Palatelet

[Anonymous No.12529408]

>>12529383
I forgot frozen gyro cone pic. Fuck. Here it is.
>>12529371
Partially right. Has nothing to do with Turkish influence. It's the fact that pork and chicken are widely consumed and Greeks have a long tradition of eating to live, not living to eat. Only relatively recently (like 20th century onward) has Greek food gotten indulgent. When you are cooking simply and in order to survive, then things like flavor are sacrificed for the practicality of providing fuel to survive. I mean boiled dandelion weeds with olive oil and lemon juice is a staple food to this day. Likewise, they wanted to eliminate all possibilities of getting sick so they could tend to their farms. No blood = all bacteria killed.
Also, eating meat on a regular basis is very new to Greeks. Shepherds were not eating their own meat. That was reserved to be sold at the markets. Only on special religious holidays was meat eaten. The Orthodox Church actually forbids eating meat and dairy for about half the year (mainly Wednesdays and Fridays). People were far more religious before the 21st century and followed these rules vigorously.

[Anonymous No.12529421]

>>12529408
Typical. A Greek who won't admit all his shit food is born either of remnants of Ottoman hegemony over their backwards country or outright stolen from other countries nearby. When are you gonna pay Germany back? Grexit when?

[Anonymous No.12529440]

>>12529421
Central Greece is the wealthiest region of Greece because of pig farming. Not gonna say Greek culture hasn't been influenced by Arab and Ottoman rule. It clearly has and no Greek would deny it. "Tzatziki" is a fucking Turkish word for fuck's sake. But that doesn't change the fact that 11 million people are eating one of the only things that Muslims (ie - Ottoman Turks) are not allowed to eat. Pork.

[Anonymous No.12529456]

>>12529421
t. Albanian

[Anonymous No.12529459]

>>12529456
YOU FUCKING TAKE THAT BACK! Those disgusting fuckers are ruining my country.

[Anonymous No.12529460]

Every time I've gotten greek food it was burnt

[Anonymous No.12529466]

>>12529460
Every time I've gotten Greek food it was an inferior version of a dish originating in a neighbouring country. Or mayonnaise soup.

[Anonymous No.12529482]

>>12529466
t. Blerim the Albanian who sells drugs to tourists when they land at the airport in Athens.

[Anonymous No.12529494]

I was in Greece when I was 12 and I asked my mum "who farted?" and she said "Greece. The whole place smells like this. Why did we even come here?"

[Anonymous No.12529505]

>>12529494
t. Shpetim the Albanian who broke into my grandfather's house and stole the TV and a mirror but tripped down the front steps and cracked his head on the railing and passed out from blood loss until the cops showed up and arrested him

[Anonymous No.12529527]

>>12529482
They all look Greek. Why do Greeks hate Albanians when they all look and act alike?
No one likes either of you.

[Anonymous No.12529532]

>>12529494
Same here. I once farted and thought I was Greek.

[Anonymous No.12529542]

>>12527310
>no Brexit

[Anonymous No.12529559]

>>12529527
>They all look Greek.
Because they all are Greek. "Greek" is a made-up ethnicity created 150 years ago. Modern "Greeks" are genetically indistinct from filthy, disgusting Albanians.

[Anonymous No.12529562]

>>12529408
What the fuck? Is this what passes for "gyros" in the US?
In australia that kind of quality meat is strictly limited to turkish or lebanese kebab joints, even the cheapest most disgustingly vile gyros shops have the decency to use actual meat instead of that compressed shit.

[Anonymous No.12529565]

>>12529482
Is that Elon Musk?

[Anonymous No.12529576]

>>12529562
Unfortunately yes. Very few make traditional pork gyros because Arab Muslims are a customer base that they want to keep access to. There might be pork on the menu, but it's very rare to find pork gyros.
>>12529559
>>12529532
>>12529527
>>12529494
>>12529466
>>12529460
Proof that samefagging isn't dead. Praise.

[Anonymous No.12529578]

>>12529559
Compare me to Turks if you must but never EVER compare me to an Albanian. That's taking it too far my cave dwelling friend.

[Anonymous No.12529590]

>>12529578
>never EVER call me what I am
FTFY

[Anonymous No.12529629]

>>12529590
>Muzzie loving germans are still mad
We don't care

[Anonymous No.12529920]

>>12527368
If you have a better way of preventing wine going off, I'd like to hear it.

[Anonymous No.12529963]

>>12529578
You Albanians are not even human

[Anonymous No.12529969]

>>12527251
Overcooked meat doesn't bother me. I'm glad I'm not picky.

[Anonymous No.12530045]

>>12527580
Im literally on my way home from paphos right now and i got some fish mezze and the fish was all completely overdone like mush. Although everything else apart from kebabs,which why would you ever get that over anything else, was done ok. Squid and octopus was done well but any meat on a grill tends to be overdone. If you go to a family restaurant not in the cities you'll get good food

[Anonymous No.12530065]

Why are Americans so obsessed with undercooked meat?

[Anonymous No.12530173]

>>12527261
The UK exists.

[Anonymous No.12530196]

>>12529421
If anything, the Turks were more influenced by Mediterranean food and culture than the other way around. If you think Turk culture at its basis is anything other than steppe style dried meat and whatnot, then you’re severely misguided

[Anonymous No.12530281]

>>12528117
>Turks/Arabs don't like "blood" in their meat because their book tells them it is forbidden
Is this why they invented the meat tornado?

[Anonymous No.12530286]

>>12527251
>good salads
Ask me how I know your lying

[Anonymous No.12530584]

Married to a Greek, lived in Greece for a while, and have written a bit as a food historian on Greek food.

Yes, it absolutely is part of the culture to, from our perspective, overcook certain meats. Beef and lamb in particular, they will just cook the shit out of. Traditional Greek dishes with these ingredients will be slow simmered or slow roasted. Quick grilled steaks definitely aren't a thing.

Couple of reasons for this:

1) As someone pointed out earlier, there is an Ottoman influence and you find a general concern about visible blood/redness in food throughout the Balkans.

2) It is fucking hot there. Food would historically go off really quickly, so not cooking it the whole way through was a pretty good way to guarantee food poisoning unless the animal had literally just been killed.

3) On a related note, sheep and cows don't come in high numbers or particularly high quality in Greece, so, again historically, you weren't actually losing much by going for a slow cook. Greece is, particularly in the south, more goat country as there is a lack of good green grass.

4) General cleanliness culture. Greeks are demons for cleaning, as are many peasant cultures in hot countries, because you end up literally overrun by cockroaches and insects if you are not. When you see blood as dirty/a health threat, it makes it very hard for them to even see it on a plate. My wife won't let me do any food of hers on a chopping board that has had a raw steak on, for instance.

[Anonymous No.12530593]

>>12530286
How do you know I'm lying?

[Anonymous No.12530599]

5) Greece is only just out of the dark ages. in one generation, Athens turned from being a small city into having nearly half the population of the country. Prior to the 50s, most people were living proper old-school village life. My father-in-law rode a donkey to school five miles along mountain tracks each morning. The peasant culture is still very strong and international urban culture is only really setting in with the current generation. So, the top restaurants in Athens typically use international standards now for red meat. Similarly, the Greek Masterchef franchise assumes red/pink beef and lamb as a standard, and that gets beamed into peoples' homes, so things are changing quite fast.

In short, traditional good reasons and dodgy cultural reasons for avoiding rare meat have continued down to today when they no longer apply but are now getting gradually overturned.

That said, if you are getting dry chicken or dry and dusty skewers or gyros from a Greek restaurant, it's just a shit restaurant. That stuff should be juicy as hell.

[Anonymous No.12530611]

>>12528117
>Turks/Arabs don't like "blood" in their meat because their book tells them it is forbidden
It actually makes sense, considering that they live in a hot climate having their meat well done will prevent possible parasites and other diseases

[Anonymous No.12530624]

>>12527386
That was invented in Suburban Chicago in the 80s

[Anonymous No.12530631]

>>12529920
drink it before it goes off

[Anonymous No.12530655]

>>12530624
To be fair the Chicago suburbs are chock full of Greeks.

[Anonymous No.12530810]

>>12527269
>ohhhh moma this salad is tough to chew

You fucking gay weak jawed white 5oyb0y

[Anonymous No.12531065]

>>12530045
>paphos
>Greek

[Anonymous No.12531147]

>>12527318
Nothing like casual racism on a food board.

[Anonymous No.12531167]

>>12531147
Nothing casual about it. The turks massacred most of my family. Not sure if you're aware, but no one in the Mediterranean likes turks.

[Anonymous No.12533022]

>>12527612
>Never tasted the sweet nectar of a Grandiosa or some Tine Grillepolser

lmaoing at your life

[Anonymous No.12533311]

>>12527251
Where? In western Crete almost every restaurant had meat that was perfect including chicken which is rare to find non-overcooked in many other tourist hotspots. However Mediterranean culture suffers from a lack of spices and it gets even worse the closer you get to Turkey and Levantine cosine. Oregano, garlic and olive oil just doesn't cut it.

[Anonymous No.12533324]

>>12527612
Scandinavia didn't invent chip butty and toast sandwich.

[Anonymous No.12533415]

>>12527261

Bong trying to deflect

[Anonymous No.12534023]

>>12531147
"Turk" isn't a race.

[Anonymous No.12534189]

>>12531167
Oey vey

[Anonymous No.12534261]

If you want grilled meat order pork.
Greece doesn't have steak culture like france or the anglos and beef is most commonly minced or stewed so don't expect some random grill place with an untrained, below minimum wage, uninsuranced teenager on the grill to cook your steak properly same with lamb. Souvlaki, pansetta, brisola, tigania etc shouldn't be dry at all and if it was the place was either bad or the food had been sitting before serving.
Also lmao at all the greek hate itt O B S E S S E D

[Anonymous No.12534870]

>>12527251

[Anonymous No.12534912]

I've eaten at bad, good, and great Greek restaurants. Like with any cuisine, it depends on the quality of the restaurant. Luckily, I live close to one of the top 10 Greek restaurants in my state, so I have access to some great Greek food. Also, this >>12534261. Greeks do pork really well.

[Anonymous No.12535131]

The best Greek food is kinda ok. And Everything in Greek food that's kinda ok had a better version in Turkish cuisine.

Greek food is greasy, room temperature garbage that's based on eating the leftovers of their many colonial masters, but without the energy and creativity of most slave cuisine. Their wine is absolute piss, and the coffee is like something a Turk would make after a head injury.

[Anonymous No.12535138]

what's with all these underaged /int/ memelords shitting up every thread about national cuisines

[Anonymous No.12535938]

>>12534261
>Souvlaki, pansetta, brisola, tigania
lol only one of those is greek, and it's not even a dish in-and-of itself but rather a method for cooking things. it's like calling "boiling" a dish.
>souvlaki
Turkish/Persian with a Greek name.
>Pansetta and brisola
Italian
>Tigania
Greek, but all it means is braising something on the hob in a frying pan. It's not a particular dish or anything. How can something braised ever be dry?

>>12534912
Are you really saying that not fucking up pork is some accomplishment or something? Pork is the most forgiving meat and borderline impossible To fuck up.

[Anonymous No.12535953]

>>12535138
go eat some american plastic cheese and cool off

[Anonymous No.12535973]

>>12535138
Come on bruv you know the answer, it's summer

[Anonymous No.12535993]

>>12535938
Dumbass. Reading comprehension, try it.
How does "Greeks do pork really well" translate to your bullshit train of thought? Fuck, people like you are ridiculous. You're just looking for any reason (real or imagined) to shit on Greeks. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12536053]

>>12535938
Tell me more about how turks invented putting pigs on sticks
brisola and panseta are just cuts of the pig, sure the etymology is Latin, who cares, that means nothing. I don't understand what you're trying to argue here
Nobody is going around

[Anonymous No.12536060]

>>12529357
>Only people who have been abroad appreciate a rare to medium steak.
hahahahhahahahHAHAHAHAHHAA

[Anonymous No.12536071]

>>12528121
Try some rural places in Santorini. Had some fairly falling-off-the-bone lamb out in the sticks.

[Anonymous No.12536153]

>>12535993
Anon, literally everyone ITT who isn't Greek is telling you Greek food isn't all that good and even a few Greeks here are saying it. I'm a demi Greek (see >>12528117) and saying it, too. Don't get me wrong: Greek food isn't terrible, but they've a habit of claiming foreign shit as their own. ffs, last time I was in Greece proper, I got into an argument with a local about Gruyere, his position being that Switzerland stole it from Greece, which makes no sense, since the region for which it's name is in Switzerland.
I love what Greek Greeks do with vegetables. It's simple and delicious. And the fish/seafood is great, too. This is the epitome of homey for me. But the meat tends to be not so great, unless it's pork. But then, the only way you can make pork bad is by special effort.

>>12536071
I've had mutton prepared that way. My family do it like that, actually. Never lamb, though. Seems a waste to slow-cook lamb, 2bh, since lamb is already tender to begin with.

[Anonymous No.12536179]

>>12533311
>Oregano, garlic and olive oil just doesn't cut it.
That's what lemon is for.

[Anonymous No.12536185]

>>12535938
Italian pancetta and braciola are completely different things than those things you greentexted. Even if they were the same shit who cares? Nobody is giving italian food shit because ragù is derived from french ragouts except possibly autists like you

[Anonymous No.12536222]

>>12536153
mutton is a way underrated meat. Wish it was easier to get in the new world.

[Anonymous No.12536229]

>>12527310
>memes
I'm a Greek living in the UK for the last 9 years. The food here is FINE. It is a fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.12536276]

>>12536153
That still has nothing to do with my post. Saying "Greeks do pork really well " isn't the same as saying "Pork is difficult to do well, but Greeks can", which is what you're implying I meant.. READING COMPREHENSION, TRY IT.

[Anonymous No.12536358]

>>12536071
Every day I dream of going back there.
Had the most wonderful lamb and gyros.
You could smell a bakery for miles.
I need it.

[Anonymous No.12536408]

>>12536185
>panseta = pancetta
>brisola = braciola
Not what I meant. We eat fire-roasted pork belly in Italy done the exact same way as in Greece. Couple that with the fact that the Greek Greeks use a loanword from Italian for it and it seems pretty obvious that the dish's origin is katouitalioutiki.

>>12536276
Again: that's not an accomplishment.

>>12536222
Is Europe not the west? Cuz we can get mutton pretty easily in Italy and I know Brits and Irish eat it, too.

[Anonymous No.12536421]

>>12536408
Derp. I somehow read 'new world' as 'the west.' Guess it's time for bed, even though it's not even that late.

[Anonymous No.12536482]

>>12527347
Ask to speak to the chef and say: then mou aresi sxero psimeno kreas. Bores na figis zoumi mesa barakalo?

[Anonymous No.12536515]

>>12536408
Why do you keep arguing (with non-arguments) that foods we cook in greece aren't really greek in origin.
Why does it matter if the greeks weren't the first to grill a pork belly, we've been cooking it and enjoying it for long enough that it's hard to trace.
If you're so serious about it go find some real facts like archeological evidence and written records and publish a paper

[Anonymous No.12536534]

>>12536408
>Again, that's not an accomplishment.
Who fucking said it was?!? You are such a fucking idiot. It's like trying to have a conversation with a turnip.

[Anonymous No.12536547]

>>12536408
yeah, lamb is rare enough in the US, mutton's near unavailable. To the point where some restaurants serving mutton dishes are actually serving lamb but calling it mutton. Got a taste for mutton in the UK on extended visits with family, and I really want to get some to experiment with ways of cooking it. I bet it'd be amazing smoked Texas BBQ style.

[Anonymous No.12536564]

>>12527251
Mutt culture, too many "migrants" ruined the once great nation of Greece.

[Anonymous No.12536577]

the anglosphere is the best place in the world for steak and meat temperature. because they use the thermometre and stuff.

in continental europe it's either overcooked (usually) or too rare always tataki style (fine for tuna, but awful for steak)

[Anonymous No.12536579]

>>12528231
Middle-eastern desert tribesmen didn't care to make the distinction when they invented their religion.

[Anonymous No.12536583]

but even in seafood many greece restaurants tends to overcook. unless they're modern or high-end. the same thing in portugal


the exception is spain, even restaurants for older people, the seafood is usually cook in the right way. the steaks in other hand...

[Anonymous No.12536958]

>>12536515
>the name is from a different language
>"it's hard to trace where it comes from"
lol
Next, you'll say Greeks invented shao long bao and barbecue sauce.

[Anonymous No.12536970]

>>12536534
>greeks do pork really well
Do they want a gold star or whatever the fuck we give retards these days for not shitting themselves?

[Anonymous No.12536978]

>>12536547
Doesn't Kentucky do barbecue with mutton?

[Anonymous No.12536982]

>>12536515

>why does it matter that the Turkish invented Turkish delight? We make it more and it's Greek delight, and it tastes like fucking dogshit. I don't see what your problem is?

[Anonymous No.12537023]

germanfag here.
greek food is really awesome never had trouble with it so far perhaps you just dont have real greeks in your country? just spend a few billions on them and you get the real gyros

[Anonymous No.12537039]

>>12535131
but greek people are nice and not stinking muslims.

checkmate sandnigger

[Anonymous No.12537094]

>>12537039
>greeks
>nice
Up until you leave the room. Then we talk shit on you.

[Anonymous No.12537590]

>>12537094
well you can aslong you make my food like a good paid slave

[Anonymous No.12537654]

Every greek food I've been to has dry shitty meat, the only way to even get it down your esophagus is to lubricate it with tzatziki.

[Anonymous No.12537764]

>>12527251
>overcook meat

there is no 'perfectly cooked meat', it''s all preference, and the Greeks prefer theirs slightly over what most eurofags like.

although I cook my steaks medium , anytime there are leftovers, I cut up the meat into strips and grill it, makes these really tough chewy strips of meat but I think it goes amazingly with salads.

[Anonymous No.12537780]

>>12536958
Elaborate preparation and ingredient versus a piece of meat on a hot rack, etymology doesn't imply origin find solid proof instead of spouting /b/ tier arguments.
>>12536982
>its greentext so that's what you said and a fact

[Anonymous No.12537861]

>>12537780
Rather than correct you, I'll wait for you to read the whole thread and see your mistake on your own.

[Anonymous No.12537913]

>>12537861
Confirmed troll, moving on

[Anonymous No.12538084]

First of all how thefuck does a certain peoples that came over merely 1000 years ago fromMongolia have acess to allthose recipies for us Greeks to steal. Just because we have bastardised turkish names for our cuisine does not mean its turkish its just they forced us to call them that.

There are many byzantine and even ancient recipe books so fuck off with your bullshit, turks were barbar horse riding savages and we taught them how to eat and drink.

[Anonymous No.12538100]

>>12536229
I've been living here for 2 years, The food here is TRASH. You have a corrupted sense of taste if you think these fucking pork waste sausages are any good.

[Anonymous No.12538866]

>>12537913
>too stupid to notice her error
My dear, I do hope you're pretty, at the very least. You're clearly not smart enough to get yourself a good career. If you're pretty, if you can't be a lawyer, at least you can marry one. He can do the thinking for you.

[Anonymous No.12540699]

I like it.

[Anonymous No.12540702]

could live on this forever

[Anonymous No.12540704]

Hot climate, the only way not to get a food poisoning from meat was to overcook it to hell until all the germs and parasites were thoroughly killed.

[Anonymous No.12540780]

>>12529357
i love tzatziki so much

[Anonymous No.12540788]

i really like greek cuisine and my favorite parts are the salads, seafood, gyros and appetizers as well as the pastries. always thought that was their strength.
yeah it's true they don't have a strong steak culture like in the west and they overcook them but obviously they can't be good at everything, you can't focus on the weakest aspects and say "yeah this cuisine is shit".

it's like shitting on china for not having good cheeses or something. yeah, you're probably right but that's beside the point isn't it?

[Anonymous No.12541194]

>>12540704
Croatia and southern Italy are just as hot and they don't overcook their meat to fuck and back like Greeks do.
Anyone have any knowledge of what Maltese do with their meats? Cuz it's hot as all fuck there, too.

[Anonymous No.12541195]

>>12540788
But they overcook all meats, not just steak. For such a heavily meat-eating culture, they sure as fuck have no idea how to prepare the stuff.

[Anonymous No.12541442]

>>12527251
Yeah you’re probably eating Lebanese or Armenian or any number of desert people who call their food Mediterranean. Go to a Greek church on a holiday and prepare for the real stuff.