/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12483496]

>2019
>still drinking piss water aka beer
how old were you when you realized wine is the only patrician choice?

[Anonymous No.12483498]

>>12483496
18

[Anonymous No.12483499]

>>12483496
>wine

no thanks I'm not a woman

[Anonymous No.12483502]

>>12483496
>not having a palate refined enough to enjoy both
I pity you.

[Anonymous No.12483511]

>>12483502
Det här!

[Anonymous No.12483521]

I had a wine phase for a good while but still prefer beer. Just more refreshing.

[Anonymous No.12483525]

>>12483502
>here sir, please taste this new beer I brewed, I mixed some of my beard and shit on it to make it extra original
>ahh! such a delicious beer! I'm gonna give it 10 dicks out of 10 in my twitter reviews

[Anonymous No.12483528]

>>12483496
For me, it's Talisker 10

[Anonymous No.12483530]

>>12483525
Applies to any brew. Now let the adults talk.

[Anonymous No.12483544]

>>12483496
About 16. Once I got over the whole "men have to like beer" meme, it was a pretty clear choice.
I don't even really care about the culture of it all, it's just easier to chug, doesn't make you insanely bloated, and has a higher ABV than pretty much any beer (sans "muh $26 trippel four pack). Additionally, I've never known a girl to turn down wine (unless recovering alcoholic), but I have seen some refuse beer.

[Anonymous No.12483613]

>>12483544
>easier to chug

[Anonymous No.12483943]

>>12483496
Theres a massive fag vibe around wine wrapped in a classier than you smug blanket. The only people who regularly enjoy wine are lonely women surrounded by cats and retired old guys out on a fancy date.

[Anonymous No.12483990]

>>12483496
Wine has such a boring taste I don't get why people like it. It's like liking flat Lacroix. There's some vague grape flavor and you can pretend it's complex but grape juice with vodka mixed to the same ABV can fool most people into thinking it's wine.
I'll take any liquor over it and decent cider, ale or lager if I want something less strong.

[Anonymous No.12484005]

>>12483528
Lol this guy again. He was in the last wine thread. Btw I had a question for you: I enjoy bourbon, but never really got into scotch. Any entry level bottles that are relatively inexpensive, and not outrageously peat-y?

>>12483943
Not sure I agree with the stigma, but I understand where it comes from. Wife and I are late 20s, and drink wine on the reg. Wine bars, tasting, happy hours at fancier spots downtown, all are great fun, and full of younger folks who like to get their drink on, and try lots of new bottles.
That said, I do enjoy craft beer occasionally, and $1 cans of Blue Ribbon at my local dive. Gin is still my favorite alcohol, though.

[Anonymous No.12484139]

>>12483528
based. the only non-faggot in this thread

[Anonymous No.12484166]

>>12483544
>easier to chug wine than beer
The fuck is this?

[Anonymous No.12484181]

It's much easier to drink beer by itself, the fruity aftertaste isn't too great without food to chase.

[Anonymous No.12484182]

>>12484005
>Any entry level bottles that are relatively inexpensive, and not outrageously peat-y?
Talisker 10

[Anonymous No.12484189]

>>12484182
Is Talisker 10 the brown recluse of /ck/?

[Anonymous No.12485344]

>>12483496
6. Then again I'm French so red wine was always on the table.

[Anonymous No.12485472]

>>12484005
>I want to drink scotch but not taste peat

[Anonymous No.12486003]

>>12485472
>all scotch is peated
Brainlets in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Anonymous No.12486055]

>>12483521
Same. Had a phase where I went from zero knowledge, to basics like how to aerate it first, how long to keep it after opening, etc. Beer and liquor now. But I still enjoy a shitty carton of cold white wine on the beach

[Anonymous No.12486230]

>>12483496
beer is good
wine is good
whiskey is good
brandy is good
vodka is good for mixed drinks but only alcoholics drink it raw

basically every other liquor is ass outside of mixed drinks

[Anonymous No.12486271]

>>12483496
I drink Beaujolais, so I manage to be a trashy and consume French wine all at once.

[Anonymous No.12486311]

>>12483496
Farmer here.
You pretentious fucks have NO IDEA how many pesticides and herbicides are in your wine. Grape vines are notoriously sensitive to insects and disease so they are doused in poison to stop that. The vines also grow very slow so they are dosed with poison over and over for literally years until the grapes fruit, and then some more. Do you think they get all that poison off before it ends up in your wine bottle? Here's a hint, they do not. Drinking wine is literally no different than walking into the Home Depot gardening sections and drinking some herbicide and insecticide.

In summary, do not drink wine. It is literally poison. Hops in beer are not very heavily dosed since they grow quickly and are much hardier than grapes. Just some food for thought.

[Anonymous No.12486320]

>>12486311
very cool
thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.12486874]

I can't stand the smell of alcohol anymore after getting hungover once. I've started growing opium instead.

[Anonymous No.12486905]

>>12486311
All alcohol is poison ya dingus.

[Anonymous No.12486930]

>>12483496
15, had some really good italian wine recently.

[Anonymous No.12487049]

>>12486311
What about barley that goes into Whisky?
I saw an Australian brand advertise "organic wine", supposedly free from pesticides and herbicides. Doesn't look very popular and they don't seem bottle much of it.

[Anonymous No.12487072]

>>12486874
>I've started growing opium instead.
>opium
I genuinely chuckled

[Anonymous No.12487077]

>>12486874
britfag

[Anonymous No.12487083]

It's Modelo time

[Anonymous No.12487087]

>>12486930
How long until you turn 16?

[Anonymous No.12487089]

>>12483496
Wine is more often the better choice because it has more flavor, but nobody can convincingly pretend that a cellar-temperature glass of syrah is more refreshing in the heat than a cold lager.

[Anonymous No.12487143]

Only because I can get it cheap and it has more alcohol. The black poop is a bit of a bummer though.

[Anonymous No.12487765]

>>12487083

now this is based

[Anonymous No.12487944]

>>12487072
Not for heroin mind you, I'm getting one of those Chinese opium pipes and all that.

[Anonymous No.12488011]

[Anonymous No.12488264]

>>12486905
You're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.12488272]

>>12488264
The downsides of alcohol outweigh the positives.

[Anonymous No.12488283]

>>12483990
stop eating trash for food

[Anonymous No.12488288]

>>12486230
>not liking gin, the superior liquor
what are you, 12? you have to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.12488300]

>>12488264
how so? ethanol is literally poison to your body. i love to drink and do it all the time, but i also understand the basic chemical mechanism of how alcohol works. the only retard here is you.

[Anonymous No.12488304]

>>12483544
>Additionally, I've never known a girl to turn down wine (unless recovering alcoholic), but I have seen some refuse beer.
Imagine being so much of a white knight that you base your drinking preferences on what a girl may like.

[Anonymous No.12488328]

>>12484005
Bourbon is great, try going for something like Glenfiddich 12 or even some of the blends like Monkey Shoulder, Chivas Regal 12 or Black Label. Very widely available and easy to drink. I only had the Chivas recently and expected it to be mediocre but was pleasantly surprised by it. Black label has a little peat but nothing that non scotch lovers cant handle

[Anonymous No.12488338]

I had a Ligurian vermentino yesterday (they call it Pigato there). Super-lush and nuanced nose, but a bit too mineral- and salt- forward for my taste. I would definitely drink it with seafood or something similar

[Anonymous No.12488343]

>>12488304
imagine actually having sex

[Anonymous No.12488369]

>>12488343
What a dream

[Anonymous No.12488424]

>>12488300
>ethanol is equal in toxicity to pesticides and herbicides bro! Alcohol is poisonous too bro!
Yea, you're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.12488441]

>>12488272
The original post in this response thread wasn't referencing the positives or negatives of alcohol, or even debating if it was poison or not. It was to tell people that their wine has shit tons of pesticides and herbicides in it. then some wine drinking faggot >>12486905 came in and started trying to justify drinking his tainted wine by saying "alcohol is poison also!" When in reality, that was never the topic of discussion to begin with. So like I said, that guy is a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.12488450]

>>12483496
I'm not gay or Italian (gay) enough to drink it

[Anonymous No.12488454]

>>12483496
I wish more American breweries made some of the typical low-ABV English ales like mild and bitter. I'm tired of the 16oz can of 7+% ABV IPAs. Even if they taste good, they're wicked filling and often overpriced.

[Anonymous No.12488495]

>>12488343
>l-look, I drink the drinks you like, I'm such a nice guy™, can I have sex?

[Anonymous No.12488499]

>>12488424
>t. retard with zero reading comprehension who has never taken a chemistry or biology class

stay stupid

[Anonymous No.12488504]

>>12488495
>t. khv

[Anonymous No.12488505]

>>12488499
>hehe I was just pretending to be retarded
Stay yourself bud

[Anonymous No.12488535]

>>12488454
While IPAs are definitely more popular, pretty much any style of beer that exists is super easy to find in the US

[Anonymous No.12488536]

>>12488505
one of us has a degree in biology and one is us lives in our mom's basement. i'll let you puzzle it out, bud.

[Anonymous No.12488543]

Wine is such a meme. Its the Apple of alcoholic beverages, not as good, more expensive and women think its makes them look cool

[Anonymous No.12488549]

>>12488300
>ethanol is literally poison to your body
Kind of.
Ethanol is actually relatively safe for you, hundreds of other naturally occurring chemicals that we consider healthy, even most vitamins would kill us faster than ethanol, we just consume a fucking lot of ethanol. As far as toxicity goes ethanol is rather benign

[Anonymous No.12488555]

>>12488536
Puzzle solved, you're still a fucking moron. I prefer more complex puzzles. Like why your mother didn't douche you out of her after realizing you had downs syndrome.

[Anonymous No.12488558]

>>12488543
wine is cheaper when actually consider you're getting 750mL vs 22oz, and a higher ABV at that. nice job showing us you can't do math, though. not to mention cheap wine tastes better than cheap beer. also who the fuck thinks apples make them look cool?

[Anonymous No.12488561]

>>12488558
well cheap wine is, but good wine is way the fuck more expensive than good beer relative to quality

[Anonymous No.12488575]

>>12488549
yes, toxicity is a function of dose. however, the effects we associate with alcohol are a result of literally a mild case of alcohol poisoning. do people die from alcohol poisoning? some do, yeah. was anyone arguing that alcohol was extremely lethal? no. just that ethanol is, in fact, poison. so are many other things we enjoy doing in small doses. doesn't negate the fact that they are indeed poisons, though.

[Anonymous No.12488577]

>>12488549
Thanks for clarifying anon. Careful though, your facts may not stand up to this >>12488300 biology faggots hot opinions.

[Anonymous No.12488578]

>>12488561
no, it isn't, you just know fuck all about wine.

[Anonymous No.12488594]

>>12488577
>doesn't even know what a fact is
no wonder you're a useless neet

[Anonymous No.12488595]

>>12488575
>yes, toxicity is a function of dose. however, the effects we associate with alcohol are a result of literally a mild case of alcohol poisoning. do people die from alcohol poisoning? some do, yeah. was anyone arguing that alcohol was extremely lethal? no. just that ethanol is, in fact, poison. so are many other things we enjoy doing in small doses. doesn't negate the fact that they are indeed poisons, though.

[Anonymous No.12488597]

>>12488561
may be true in scandinavia and US
in most of europe though, not

[Anonymous No.12488608]

>>12488595
lmao

[Anonymous No.12488616]

>>12488595
>no argument

>>12488597
it's not true in the US, either. it's just a meme that expensive wine = good and cheap wine = shit. the truth is you can find good wine at any price point if you know the first thing about wine and reading labels.

[Anonymous No.12488623]

>>12486905
Where did that anon ever say alcohol wasn't poison in his post...Wasn't his point that wine now has other unwanted poisons in the form of herbicides and pesticides...Your non sequitur makes no sense...

[Anonymous No.12488624]

>>12488578
you can buy many of the best beers in the world for less than $20/750mL, not even remotely close to that with wine

[Anonymous No.12488627]

>>12488597
thats just an artifact of most of Europe's shitty beer culture, but its changing luckily

[Anonymous No.12488631]

>>12488624
bud lite is not one of the best beers in the world, anon. and you can buy good wine for under $15 a bottle if you aren't an absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.12488643]

>>12483613
Easier to quaff?

[Anonymous No.12488650]

>>12488631
>bud lite is not one of the best beers in the world
What are you talking about?
The large majority of the very best beer is super accessible price wise, prices have been steadily increasing but even super top tier IPAs go for like $20 4 packs of 16 oz cans, and the best stouts are usually in the $15-$25 bombers or $12-$18 4 pack 12 oz bottles (bombers suck). Sours can sometimes push that higher but many of the very best sours are also in that range

But if we are just talking regular very good beer, not limited release stuff, but grocery store stuff, many excellent stuff is in the $9-12 6 pack range

quality wine just isn't typically this affordable, and usually not even close

[Anonymous No.12488654]

>>12488650
you're wrong. sorry dude. you can keep saying it all you want but again, you can buy plenty of good wine under $15/bottle. first you have to pull your head out from your ass, though, which seems like it might be too tall of an order for you.

[Anonymous No.12488655]

>>12484166
Maybe he means the lack of carbonation makes it easier for the liquid to flow down the gullet

[Anonymous No.12488662]

>>12488654
>you can buy plenty of good wine under $15/bottle
I mean, if you enjoy drinking box wine. It's not for me personally, but if you enjoy drinking box wine and can't afford anything better than that, there's nothing wrong with that anon! Do whatever you enjoy and can afford =]

[Anonymous No.12488663]

>>12486311
Hi there. Another farmer here. This is guy is half right. He’s mostly full of shit. Most vineyards I’ve worked, and friends I have who grow grapes. Tbh are too poor to use chemicals. Also, if there are chemicals used at all, they are used after a harvest is ruined to stop molds, bugs or whatever. There’s a whole year between chems and harvest. Your fine. Wine is fine for you. (Just don’t drink boxed wine tho. They are spread like every day desu)

[Anonymous No.12488665]

>>12488654
Examples? What wine that is amongst the best in the world is available under $15?

Remember, I am not just talking good enough to enjoy, I am talking really good shit, fucking excellent beer is super affordable

[Anonymous No.12488672]

>>12488662
>t. retard who doesn't know anything about wine

[Anonymous No.12488673]

I hate beer and love wine and spirits, that said, fuck that faggot op for creating YET ANOTHER shit thread.

Now I have to deal with more shit posters in the threads I like because of your bullshit

[Anonymous No.12488674]

>>12484005
Try a sherries scotch. Tomatin12 is fucking bomb for the price

[Anonymous No.12488681]

>>12488665
name the "best in the world" beers cheaper than $15 for 750mL.

most portuguese wines, most spanish wines, many Argentinian wines, and most chiantis/sangioveses are all very enjoyable and typically cost $10-12 per bottle. all of the BEST wines i've had have been in the $20-30 range, and i've had bottles of rare french and italian reds worth hundreds of dollars. spending more than $30 on a bottle of the VERY BEST WINE for a special occasion is a fucking meme. for every day drinking there are plenty good and great ones for sub $15.

[Anonymous No.12488683]

>>12488663
>Tbh are too poor to use chemicals.
>Has the money to start and maintain a vineyard
>Doesn't have the money to buy cheap pesticides and herbicides to ensure the crop survives until harvest
Yea, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that there fella.

[Anonymous No.12488691]

>>12483525
Agreed, how disgusting! Now let's go trample some grapes with our bare unwashed feet.

[Anonymous No.12488698]

>>12488681
>for every day drinking there are plenty good and great ones for sub $15
Just admit you drink boxed wine anon.

[Anonymous No.12488699]

>>12483496
I'm active in the renaissance community and only drink wine and mead.

[Anonymous No.12488712]

>>12488683
Ok. No one starts a vineyard. Vines take 4 years to produce, that’s after you get your root stock growing. As far as maintenance goes. Some do more then others. This is why Mexicans live in New York. Other then that. It doesn’t take much to keep vines alive. That’s why New York is wine country. Nothing else grows here. Pesticides and herbicides cost shit loads of money (idk if you know this, farms are about maximizing profits.) a lot of them are going organic for this reason exact. Would you like me to get into what exactly maintenance means and how strong grapes really are?

[Anonymous No.12488714]

>>12488698
i literally don't. sorry to disappoint you.

[Anonymous No.12488728]

>>12488714
When your wine budget is $15 you really do though.

[Anonymous No.12488757]

>>12488712
Mexicans live in NYC because of migratory patterns over the course of American history.

[Anonymous No.12488761]

>>12488728
>has literally never looked at wine prices

idgaf if you drink wine or not, but as someone that does drink wine frequently, you're just straight up wrong that you can't buy good wine for less than $15. you don't have to believe me, but it doesn't make you less wrong.

[Anonymous No.12488769]

>>12488757
Mexicans live in New York because of the wine industry and the cities overpopulation.

[Anonymous No.12488771]

>>12483496
because belgian and dutch beer is nicer than any wine