/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12472606]

OH NO NO NO NO NO HA HA HA HA HA HA

[Anonymous No.12472609]

>>12472606
Inb4 article says "bEaCaUsE iT's CoOkEd In FaT"

Lipid hypothesis niggers get out

[Anonymous No.12472630]

The vast majority of people going vegan are doing it for ethics or environmental reasons.

[Anonymous No.12472631]

>>12472606
Vegans have to eat something you know. Besides it's not suppose to be healthier for you, it's healthier for the FUCKING PLANET ASSWIPE.

[Anonymous No.12472632]

>>12472606
meatless is a meme

[Anonymous No.12472641]

>>12472631
Nothing you do or action you take will have any effect on the planet and the conditions caused by the other 8 billion people shitting it up.

[Anonymous No.12472644]

Health<the life of an innocent animal

[Anonymous No.12472652]

>>12472631
All animals are below us and you are worried about the ones that are so borderline retarded that they would die without human intervention. Good job retard im really glad that we worked our way to the top of the food chain only so you can complain about it. also i know im getting baited :^)

[Anonymous No.12472685]

Some "experts" looks at some macros and say -these look pretty much the same.

Quality in depth article. Really.

[Anonymous No.12472692]

>>12472652
It's got nothing to do with who is below but all to do with morality and ethics. We have the magic of abrstract thought when thinking about those things, and we can decide not to do any more harm than is necessary. Animals kill to survive. It's not about morals but surviving.
>they would die without human intervention
Why is it always the retard who claims to be superior to someone else.

[Anonymous No.12472736]

>>12472692
Because we are superior than a fucking cow or a chicken. Are you telling me that if you had the choice between killing a cow or killing a person you would choose the cow? We are the top, it only goes down from here retard.

[Anonymous No.12472742]

>>12472736
Just because I have capacity to kill you doesn't make it right.

[Anonymous No.12472749]

>>12472631
>s healthier for the FUCKING PLANET ASSWIPE.
How? Please explain how a manufactured burger that uses industrial equipment, electricity, gas, machine oil, cold storage, diesel cold trucks, etc, plus ingredients that (afaik) aren't free trade, rainforest alliance approved, or sustainably farmed is better for the planet, you virtue-signaling asshole. Give receipts, buttbreath.

[Anonymous No.12472750]

>>12472641
If everyone ate 10% less meat the world would be in much better shape in terms of water conservation, agricultural runoff, and climate change. Vegans are just overcompensating because of their small penises

[Anonymous No.12472754]

>>12472749
>implying meat production doesn't involve those things

[Anonymous No.12472763]

>>12472754
they both do, so you might as well go with the real product

[Anonymous No.12472764]

>>12472754
That's not a valid argument. You're saying the meatless coconut oil burger is somehow better for the planet, when it's absolutely NOT. It's a gimmick for gimpy vegans like you. Just eat a fucking mushroom burger if you want to help the planet, fuckface.

[Anonymous No.12472766]

>>12472606
yeah of course they're healthier

[Anonymous No.12472767]

>>12472749
A bit grainy but here.

[Anonymous No.12472770]

>>12472736
>"superior than"

indian detected comment disregarded

[Anonymous No.12472771]

>>12472630
This. Never met a vegetarian or vegan doing it for any other reason.

[Anonymous No.12472777]

>>12472750
This. So much this.

[Anonymous No.12472790]

>>12472767
>posts image with print so fine, no one can read it.
>doesn't give source
Yeah, no.

[Anonymous No.12472794]

>>12472606
>animal meat
or
>25 chemical ingredients slumped together to form a patty

I know what I' ll be getting.

[Anonymous No.12472808]

>>12472790
It's from impossible foods own sustainability report. Every fucking expert on sustainability says plant based is better for the environment.

[Anonymous No.12472824]

>>12472808
>from the manufacturer's own reports
LOL, it's like when the tobacco companies used to make their own reports on the dangers of smoking. You people are fucking morons.

I'm against factory farming, and rightly so, but there's nothing wrong with eating meat. Now, kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12472839]

Reminder that organic farming would not be able to produce the amount of food necessary to feed the planet.

[Anonymous No.12472843]

>>12472824
Yeah it's a peer reviewed report if you know what that is friend.

[Anonymous No.12472848]

>>12472631
>Vegans have to eat something you know.
Learn how to cook, dumbass. Stop relying on premade bullshit, and cook whole foods. It's not hard. I did a week-long vegan challenge last year (it was a contest at work), and I NEVER had any problems cooking up delicious all-plant based meals, and I didn't use any fake meat products AT ALL. So if an omnivore like myself can do, surely fucking full-time vegans can do it, except they can't be bother to learn to cook.

[Anonymous No.12472855]

>>12472843
So, it is exactly like the tobacco companies, then. Thanks for proving my point, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.12472856]

>>12472606
Sugar bread. Deep fried potatoes. Still trash. Duh.

[Anonymous No.12472863]

>>12472839
Organic farming is an ideal that we should all strive for, even if it's not feasible everywhere. Working towards ideals doesn't mean you will get there 100%, it more like work ethics.

[Anonymous No.12472869]

>>12472609
> "bEaCaUsE iT's CoOkEd In FaT"
Why do you write like this? Do you literally come from Twitter? The state of this board

[Anonymous No.12472874]

>>12472630
>>12472771
Most YouTube and Instagram vegans say it's healthy and that they feel better than ever, witch is untrue
And vegan industry kills more animals than meat industry
It's just rats, mice, other small mammals and insects instead of pigs chickens and cows.
Getting vegan food from Asia to USA and Europe pollutes environment more than local meat businesses.
And to grow vegan food for your country's population you would need to cut down many forests and grasslands.

[Anonymous No.12472878]

>>12472606
Everyone knows mock meat is literal junk anyway?

[Anonymous No.12472890]

>>12472863
How is that more ethical than efficiently and sufficiently feeding the billions of people on the planet? Ideals are just that, ideailty and not reality.

[Anonymous No.12472894]

>>12472874
Vegan industry kills more animals how? Majority of livestock is grain/corn/soy fed and require hello of a lot more of plants than humans do.

Transportation is a relatively small part of the total pollution from production.

[Anonymous No.12472910]

>>12472874
Rats and mice are worthless. Cows and pigs are somewhat intelligent.
Europeans should have normalized eating rats over cows and pigs. The world would have been a better place by now.

[Anonymous No.12472915]

>Getting vegan food from Asia to USA and Europe pollutes environment more than local meat businesses.

[Anonymous No.12472917]

>>12472890
Without ideals we would never have made it this far. It's what makes people strive to progress, instead of just saying fuck it and destroying the planet and each other.

[Anonymous No.12472924]

>>12472606
I don't think they're healthier, and I don't think meat is unhealthy, but sometimes I like how a veggie burger tastes. Since they're lower in fat it also gives me an excuse to add more cheese and mayo too.

[Anonymous No.12472940]

>>12472869
Seeth

[Anonymous No.12472949]

>>12472917
Ok, go ahead and disregard all the decades of research and continuing progress in minimizing the impacts of chemicals used to grow food, which sounds like a pretty good ideal to me. You are still avoiding the fact that without the fertilizers, pesticides, etc. millions of people would literally starve to death. Before the advent of those chemicals we farmed organically only, and people DID starve.

[Anonymous No.12473007]

>>12472949
You're talking about the past. Now we have to worry about the future. Yes, the development of certain fertilizers, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides did help people grow food in areas with populations exploding and not enough food. BUT, we didn't know when to stop, and now we have companies like Monsanto who are both killing us and putting small farms and ranches out of business. That's not progress, that's annihilation. Goals and outcomes change over time. Adaptation is necessary. The only thing that's constant in life is change.

[Anonymous No.12473020]

>>12472606
>thinking fastfood is healthy ever
The only main benefit from a food point is a rather eat a decent veg burger than a pink slime patty.

[Anonymous No.12473047]

>>12473020
Just dont stuff yourself with it fatso

[Anonymous No.12473061]

>>12472631
Go breatharian, it's far healthier for the planet than veganism.

[Anonymous No.12473064]

>>12472606
Turkey bacon is also not as healthy as actual pork belly bacon, if you buy center cut. There's no reason to have ground up turkey slurry formed into bacon slices, in other words, processed foods. Fake burgers are inevitably very processed, and adultered with flavoring enhancement to become something similar to beef in flavor, texture and juiciness. Just make yourself some bean fritter instead. Some delicious chickpea and spice blend in a burger, with grilled onions, grilled eggplant, and topped with melted provolone and some aioli is going to be miles better than some fake processed crap.

[Anonymous No.12473084]

>>12473064
True but that actually requires effort. Something /ck/ is incapable of.

[Anonymous No.12473086]

>>12473007
>Muh evil corporations
Jesus dude pull your head out of your ass and stop spewing platitudes like some hippy named Shiloh. Take a page out of your own book and indeed worry about the future. The survival of an exponentially growing worldwide population depends on efficient farming. The only annihilation without it would be those too poor to afford the limited amount of food we could produce if we allowed your appeals to morality to prevail. Organic farming is ok if you wanna be suckered in to that marketing ploy, but the engineers and scientists that want a better future (who would lose their own jobs if you had your way) need to be funded and encouraged, not demonized.

[Anonymous No.12473088]

>>12473064
>dae le chemikul brocess xD

Can you soccer mom boomers just fuck off?

[Anonymous No.12473092]

>>12473086
Relevant population is stagnating tho

[Anonymous No.12473093]

>>12472606
Bean fat and protein are way better than from animals

[Anonymous No.12473103]

>>12472631
The planet is a big hunk of fucking rock.
Cows farting won't do fucking anything to it.

[Anonymous No.12473111]

>>12472874
vegan industry kills a ton less animals you absolute mong. Where did you get that from? the balding schizo or the blood drinking freak?

[Anonymous No.12473119]

>>12473111
You realize those animals are specifically bred and born to be turned into meat?

[Anonymous No.12473120]

>>12472630
>>12472771
>>12472874
The vast majority of people going vegan are doing it for attention.

[Anonymous No.12473144]

>>12473092
If that is the case, I rescind my statement of an exponential growth and I apologize for it. But even if the number of people on the planet stayed the same for the foreseeable future, a totalitc system of organic farming still could not support those numbers.

[Anonymous No.12473148]

rip $BYND stock

[Anonymous No.12473163]

>>12473144
It absolutely fucking could. No one is starving outside of Sub-Saharan Africa. And if the niggers can't master agriculture that's their problem tbqh

[Anonymous No.12473177]

>>12472606
>Twitter
>source
Anti$BYND shills are all this uneducated

[Anonymous No.12473184]

>>12472794
Oh no! People are eating canola oil? Potato starch? Salt?? WATER???? Is the world gone mad??

[Anonymous No.12473200]

>>12473163
You would need significant deforestation to allow enough land for this to be the slightest bit plausible. Also, an enormous amount of the population’s conversion to vegetarianism. I would also suggest you refrain from using racist terms if you would like to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.12473212]

>>12472606
SHUT THE FUCK UP CORPORATE WHORE

ECOFASCISM NOW

RESPECT THE CREATIONS OF NATURE,

OR EXPECT GREEN FASCIST TERMINATORS!

[Anonymous No.12473229]

>>12473200
Nigger

[Anonymous No.12473232]

>>12473229
Hippy. That’s even worse.

[Anonymous No.12473237]

[Anonymous No.12473246]

>>12473200
Friendly reminder that meat production requires the most usage of land mass

[Anonymous No.12473263]

>>12473246
Most utilization but not economy or economic impact

[Anonymous No.12473282]

>>12473246
Hence the conversion to vegetarianism.

[Anonymous No.12473332]

>>12472606
Wheres the article faggot

[Anonymous No.12473359]

>>12473086
What about the scientists and engineers who are working for an actual sustainable future and not shilling for planet-eating corporations? You want them out of a job? Good god, your paragraph reads like a hysterical 12 year old girl. Go drink some Roundup, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12473455]

>>12472894
>>12473111
Meat industry kills animals that were bred and born to be killed.
Vegan industry kills innocent animals, by the use of machines for harvest, and by destroying the environment on order to plant plants for human consumption.
The shit that animals are fed at the farms does not kill as many animals as the vegans kill.
And look how much plastic packaging vegans use.

[Anonymous No.12473460]

>>12472894
It's about the type of plants and the harvesting methods.

[Anonymous No.12473466]

>>12473111
Go vegan and die

[Anonymous No.12473472]

>>12473120
astonishingly based AND redpilled

[Anonymous No.12473473]

>>12472742
Just because I have the capacity to kill an animal for food doesn’t make it wrong

[Anonymous No.12473482]

I like both, so ill keep eating both :)

[Anonymous No.12473483]

>>12472808
>on the same team
>their job depends on boogeyman’s to be sustainable
>make a lot of money for hysterics
Top kek my dude

[Anonymous No.12473504]

>>12472915
>source
>there isn’t one

[Anonymous No.12473511]

>>12473504
Google search the image you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.12473533]

>>12473460
And the animals consume the same fucking plants only much more of them?

[Anonymous No.12473566]

>>12473455
Harvesters kill animals for crops raises for animals, you are literally making shit up, the difference is the crops raised for humans GO to humans. The US government displaces and kills millions of wildlife from their natural habitat to protect invasive livestock. Dont even try with the environment lmao the emissions are so skewed

[Anonymous No.12473598]

>deforestation intensifies

[Anonymous No.12473621]

>>12473598
How much of that corn goes to animal feed? 90%?

[Anonymous No.12473674]

>>12473621
have to feed those cows with something. otherwise they'd do something crazy like eat the grass.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/corn-and-other-feedgrains/feedgrains-sector-at-a-glance/

http://www.worldofcorn.com/#corn-usage-by-segment

[Anonymous No.12473679]

>>12473674
Pigs and chickens eat grass also?

[Anonymous No.12473692]

>>12473679
Not in America they don't.

[Anonymous No.12473697]

>>12473144
Much of our farmable land goes to growing animal feed. If we cut that down we could grow more crops for humans.

[Anonymous No.12473712]

>>12473455
Why would raising an animal on a farm make it less "innocent" than being raised in the wild? I don't care if you eat meat, I'm not a vegan or vegetarian. I just want to tell you that your arguments are shit and you're retarded

[Anonymous No.12473738]

>>12472750
Cool and if China and India weren't polluting at vastly higher rates than the whole rest of the world no one here would have to do a fucking thing and the Earth would be better off, moreso than your gay vegan shit.

[Anonymous No.12473762]

>>12473738
>B-BUT INDIA AND CHINA
Cope harder fat fuck

[Anonymous No.12473777]

>>12473738
Emissions per capita
India 1.16
China 4.58
USA 19.78

Take some fucking responsibility

[Anonymous No.12473911]

>>12473762
>>12473777
this is just chinese propaganda. they are the bad guys. i am american, you can trust me.

[Anonymous No.12473915]

>>12472644
>>12472631
Why do vegans think it's right to rape an animal's soul through unnecessary attachment? That animal never consented to your attachment.
Let go, you soul rapist

[Anonymous No.12473924]

>>12473212
See >>12473915

[Anonymous No.12474006]

>>12472644
this, it's why I only eat guilty animals

[Anonymous No.12474023]

>>12472631
Found the vegan.

[Anonymous No.12474028]

>>12473598
Most of the cornfields in the us were never woodland and could not support a forest biome under any believable condition.

[Anonymous No.12474039]

>>12473120
Want to know how I know you're a retarded redneck? Because I've only ever heard that kind of comment from them.

[Anonymous No.12474104]

>>12474039
My IQ is 140 and my neck is very pale.

[Anonymous No.12474116]

>>12474104
Doubt press x

[Anonymous No.12474265]

>>12473777
Holy shit is this true? Why do is niggas pollute so much?

[Anonymous No.12474316]

>>12474028
can confirm, iowa's just a buncha prairies and hills.

[Anonymous No.12474385]

>>12472606
>eating soybugers

[Anonymous No.12474389]

>>12473777
>Emissions per capita
>India 1.16
Yeah no

[Anonymous No.12474392]

>>12472869
It's summer.

[Anonymous No.12474396]

>>12474316
That's because the retarded Indians burned down all the forests to make it easier to club the animals. Just like the abos, really.

[Anonymous No.12474410]

>>12474389
Your opinions are more valid than who because?

[Anonymous No.12474422]

>>12474265
The US is second to China with regard to carbon dumping and with trump making us china again by deregulating carbon dumpers, eliminating pollution restrictions on the auto industry and eliminating the clean air and water act we'll surpass them soon! Stock up on your respirators, boys and girls, you're in for a ride!

[Anonymous No.12474479]

>>12472606
who eats veg burger for health? How retarded is that.

[Anonymous No.12474523]

I won't ever eat any plant-based burger, why the fuck would I pay so much for plants when I could buy actual meat?

[Anonymous No.12474540]

>>12472910
>Rats and mice are worthless.
>only the animals i like matter.

[Anonymous No.12474541]

>>12474410
>Opinion
Not him, but the numbers the original anon posted are quite off. India is #3 in CO2 emissions.

[Anonymous No.12474568]

>>12472631
>healthier for the planet

planets don't have health

[Anonymous No.12474649]

>>12474568
>hey guys, I'm going to be one of the .000000000000001% who will get to escape this dystopian shithole the ones who get to escape created for us, whooopee!

[Anonymous No.12474669]

>>12473455
Do you not understand that cows eat food too? The meat industry kills animals that were bred and born to be killed AND innocent animals by use of machines for harvest. Going vegan only kills those through harvest, and far fewer thanks to the fact that it takes exponentially more resources to grow meat than vegetables.

[Anonymous No.12474720]

>>12473777
>Per capita
>Discounting the enormous population of India and China.

[Anonymous No.12474850]

>>12472606
Healthier than non-human animal protein. Yes, they are processed and unhealthy, but even so, healthier than the typical burger. That's how carcinogenic non-human animal flesh and secretions are.

[Anonymous No.12474921]

>>12472631
>Besides it's not suppose to be healthier for you, it's healthier for the FUCKING PLANET ASSWIPE.
The way to be healthier for the planet is for there to be fewer people.

This means that, for the sake of the planet, you should fucking kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.12475003]

>>12472606
it was never about the health benefits, just being sustainable, I cook mine in bacon grease

[Anonymous No.12475225]

>>12472940
cope

[Anonymous No.12475227]

>>12474850
>Healthier than non-human animal protein

Are you inferring eating humans would be healthier? lol

>Yes, they are processed and unhealthy, but even so, healthier than the typical burger. That's how carcinogenic non-human animal flesh and secretions are

Not a fucking chance homie. People eat less meat now than ever before and yet the obesity epidemic and health problems have not only not gone down, but have increased. Meat is not to blame for all of the current health problems sorry.

[Anonymous No.12475607]

>>12474265
Unironically corporations. I worked seasonally at an Amazon Bookstore. When I handled deliveries, sometimes they would send an entire box, filled with those plastic bubble things, for a single gift card. Every single gift card was shrink wrapped in plastic. Boxes take space in a van, which needs gas and now needs to make more trips, in addition to the actual plastic production itself.

The consumer didn't see any of this. All they saw was that the card and the holder were both made of cardboard so they got to think "Oh wow! That's neat that Amazon's cutting down on plastic by using just cardboard with these."

[Anonymous No.12475616]

Is there a term for being pro-vegan/vegetarian because of environmental/ethical concerns, but being totally okay with eating animals that were hunted or fished?

[Anonymous No.12476152]

>>12472749
>>12472764
>>12472790
>>12472874
>>12473200
>>12473455
>>12473738
>>12474028
>>12474568
absolute fucking retards that shouldn't breed.

>>12475616
hunting and fishing are bad for the environment. the number one cause of loss of speciation in marine habitats is over utilization, aka overfishing.

[Anonymous No.12476183]

>>12476152
Yes. Large scale commercial fishing, you idiot. Hunting requires large tracts of relatively undisturbed wilderness and bag limits keep species from getting too depopulated from it.

[Anonymous No.12476286]

>>12476183
>undisturbed wilderness
you mean like areas where we've eradicated natural predators? undisturbed like that?
hunters literally strive to kill the fittest members of a species. if you understand even basic evolution and genetics you would get why that's bad for the ecosystem long-term.

as for fish, no it is not just commercial fisheries. you obviously don't live somewhere where the state has to shut down entire rivers every other year because the salmon populations are so depleted.

read a book sometime.

[Anonymous No.12476291]

>>12474410
Then who exactly, no fucking source given for the original post's figures

[Anonymous No.12477413]

>>12473237
Lot of money to be made on these nutjob vegans evidently...

[Anonymous No.12477418]

>>12473246
Cows deserve to graze on the vast acres of grassland. Which God literally made for them (and bison etc)

[Anonymous No.12477421]

>>12474039
Wanna know how I know you're a coastie roastie?
Because you're vegan.

[Anonymous No.12477467]

>>12472631
I mean the planet would be better off if all people just killed themselves but I don't see vegans jumping off cliffs

[Anonymous No.12477506]

>>12472750
I eat 70% plant based diet based on calories, not a fat fuck so dont eat more than I need, make an effort to only eat seasonal and local and minimal packaged/manufactured goods, grow some of my own vegetables, hunt 50% of my meat, go fishing, own chickens for eggs BUT...the dumb vegan cunts are work think I am bad man because I choose to shoot deer and somehow take the moral high ground becuase of their faggoty diet.
The fucks just assume that a dietary choice alone instantly saves the world...faggotz

[Anonymous No.12477519]

>>12477421
I'm not a vegan, or even a vegetarian, but I can confirm that flyovers have incredibly backwards and stupid ideas about food. If you eat a vegetable voluntarily you must be doing it to "be healthy", it is beyond their comprehension that a vegetable might actually taste good and thus someone might want to eat it for the taste.

Flyover land should be blanketed with neutron bombs and repopulated with hard working Mexicans immediately, they're dead weight and they are destroying this country.

[Anonymous No.12477521]

>>12474541
Do you know what "per capita" means?

[Anonymous No.12477524]

>>12474720
>Somehow manages to pollute as much as countries with 3 times the population and still be fat as fuck

[Anonymous No.12477535]

>>12475227
Meat consumption is up . People ate way less meat 40 years ago.

[Anonymous No.12477854]

>>12476286
>you mean like areas where we've eradicated natural predators? undisturbed like that?
Name seven.

[Anonymous No.12477941]

>>12476286
>hunters literally strive to kill the fittest members of a species.

You don't know shit about hunting trends, tag limits, or population control. Particularly with deer most places in the us are overpopulated despite hunting and sky high tag limits.

[Anonymous No.12477973]

>>12473103
>not comprehending middle school level science
how embarassing for you

[Anonymous No.12478490]

>>12472609
Fuck off with your spastic leddit speak, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12479155]

>>12477941
yes, i do. are you seriously trying to tell me that hunters waste tags on sickly, weak animals? because i know a LOT of hunters and that is not the case. in contrast, wolves (the natural predator of deer and elk that we've removed from most of the country) go after the sick, slow, and weak members of a herd. you and your hick friends try to shoot the buck with the biggest rack so you can post about it on facebook and hang it on your wall. you are literally retarded if you think these two things are equivalent.

t. actual biologist

[Anonymous No.12479442]

>>12472940
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.12479574]

>>12473566
>eggs
>animal
>killed

[Anonymous No.12479605]

>>12472644
Animals are guilty of being delicious

[Anonymous No.12479623]

>>12479574
Yes, chick culling

[Anonymous No.12479632]

>>12479574
Probably means egg laying hens killed by living in awful conditions

[Anonymous No.12479903]

>>12477413
To them, behaving like a smug twat is worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.12481583]

>>12477519
You're retarded. here in "flyover land" we grow our own vegetables.

[Anonymous No.12481592]

>>12481583
factually false. california grows your vegetables. you grow soy and corn that gets fed to cows. cope harder.

[Anonymous No.12481606]

>>12481592
Yes, California grew the vegetables in my garden. Thank you California.

[Anonymous No.12481615]

>>12481606
>i haz garden!!1!11
>therefore all fat amerilards in flyover land must not be too lazy to garden, too
like i said, cope harder.

[Anonymous No.12481633]

>>12481615
pretty much all my neighbors garden too. Almost everything we eat is grown or raised ourselves. Guess how I know you don't own land.

[Anonymous No.12481636]

>>12472874
If you're following YouTube and Instagram vegans then you can eat a dick, it's nothing to do with the majority of vegans

[Anonymous No.12481647]

>>12473120
100% of the vegans I've met are doing it for ethical or religious reasons

[Anonymous No.12481661]

>>12472631
cows are such noble animals. shame what we do to them

[Anonymous No.12481665]

>>12481661
>cows are such noble animals.
More importantly, they're delicious

[Anonymous No.12481673]

>>12481665
based

[Anonymous No.12481677]

>calorie pucks are just as (un)healthy as other calorie pucks
That said, I don't care what kind of meat or non-meat is in a burger as long as it tastes good and isn't some price gouged hipster fad. Beef is so inefficient to produce I wouldn't mind if society as a whole gave it up its beef fetish and used its resources more wisely, or at least it became a luxury product for people who refuse to stop eating it.

[Anonymous No.12481690]

>>12481665
they are not gonna lie, but still fucked up. they are very kind animals. pajeets have it right in their reverence for cows

[Anonymous No.12481714]

>>12477535
my boomer dad tells me they only ate meat once a week or so back then. he grew up on a farm so they only had so many animals that were ready for slaughter.

[Anonymous No.12481736]

>>12472767
typically vegan cant even think for himself has to go based a picture with false information on it. I would link you actual journalist data explaining how pasture raised animals actually create a net negative in carbon in the atmosphere but your lack of nutrition and fat soluble vitamins will give you a headache by the first paragraph

[Anonymous No.12481749]

>>12481714
you eat a lot of eggs on a farm

[Anonymous No.12481761]

>>12481661
cows would literally sit there and eat all our grass and pollute our air with methane if we didn't kill them

[Anonymous No.12481832]

Just eat cactus only.

[Anonymous No.12481862]

>>12472644
I like the taste of animals

[Anonymous No.12482173]

>>12472606
>be me
>go to a and w
>yes i'll have a beyond meat burger
>with bacon

the cashier's face literally descends into total confusion as he struggles with the contradiction of ordering a vegetarian burger with a topping of meat

[Anonymous No.12482308]

>>12481736
Have you read the reports that indicate that grass fed cattle emits three times as much methane as grain fed?

[Anonymous No.12482405]

>>12473738
>ahAHAH SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING SOMETHING BAD ERGO THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO NOT DO THE BAD THING
Even if your retarded shit wasnt invalidated in principle, its invalidated in practice see>>12473777
>>12474720
Ok,
US population 2018 327 million
India population 2017 1.339 billion
1339/327 = ~4
19.78/4 = ~4.945
Ergo even adjusted for population ameircans emit almost 5 times as much per capita.

[Anonymous No.12482539]

using per capita for emissions stats is retarded when your premise is that a flat amount of co2 is too much
the environmental effects of that will not change no matter how good your per capita numbers are if your gross volume of pollution is still sky high

yes, yes, undeveloped shitholes produce less pollution per person, the real scary thing is what's going to happen when those pajeets and africans try to approach first world living standards
the west isn't obligated to take a shit on their own living standards to accommodate those morons and if you whine about environmentalism but don't support mass sterilization of third worlders you're as dumb as they are, and are in for a nasty surprise once those countries start modernizing and spit on your lifestyle goals

[Anonymous No.12482598]

>>12482539
this

[Anonymous No.12482664]

>>12482539
If Americans pollute so many times more surely it's the Yanks we need to steralize?

[Anonymous No.12482679]

>>12482173
Based

[Anonymous No.12482851]

>>12472894
>Majority of livestock is grain/corn/soy fed
They just eat grass where I live.

[Anonymous No.12482883]

>>12482851
That's nice anon. Where might that be?

[Anonymous No.12482898]

>>12482883
Yorkshire. Tons of sheep and cows and all they ever do is eat grass on the moors - where the only thing that grows is grass.

[Anonymous No.12482918]

>>12482898
Funny then that Yorkshire is littered with animal feed producers.

http://www.yorkshirefeedstuffs.co.uk/index.php/commodities

https://www.ianson.co.uk/

https://www.stephensonsfeeds.co.uk/

To be fair most of the feed is for pig and poultry but there's some cattle feed sold aswell

[Anonymous No.12482923]

>>12482918
Yorkshire's a big place. The Pennines (where I live) only have grass but of course there's plenty of riverland for regular crops too.

[Anonymous No.12482924]

>>12472631
>'s healthier for the FUCKING PLANET ASSWIPE.
The only thing healthier for the fucking planet is eliminating 9/10 of the population.

[Anonymous No.12483248]

>>12477413
>t. fatass antivegan seething obsessed poster

[Anonymous No.12483352]

>>12472630
>ethics or environmental reasons

None of them give a shit where their shoes, shirts and phones come from.

[Anonymous No.12483376]

>>12483352
That's where you're wrong bucko

[Anonymous No.12483436]

Why does the majority of /ck/ have such a hate-boner for vegetarians?

[Anonymous No.12483501]

>>12483436
Because they feel accused. -Why are you vegan? -Oh because I don't want to hurt animals or I want to eat as sustainable as possible.

Both answers feels like accusations for people. Oh I'm a polluter? Oh I'm an animal abuser?

[Anonymous No.12483512]

>>12482405
sgadup stupit bitch face i smack you in the weiner HA!

t. american

[Anonymous No.12483513]

>>12473455
Not to mention all the 'pest' animals that are killed to protect storage facilities. A 20,000sqft vegetable storage house kills over 200 rodents and small animals species a day, including mice, rabbits, and even carnivores like foxes who are simply seeking shelter. Poisons, mechanical traps, even electrical grids where anything come near it gets fried like a fucking bug zapper.

[Anonymous No.12483516]

>>12483436
crabs in a bucket.

[Anonymous No.12483539]

>>12472750
>If everyone ate 10% less meat the world would be in much better shape
This is so much bullshit. Grazing land is left in a completely natural state. Burrowing animals are left to do their own thing (gophers, rabbits, mice, etc). Natural irrigation, run off, soil nutrients, and atmosphere maintenance is left intact. Using giant machines to rape the top soil completely destroys the natural flow and purpose of the habitat and land. There is nothing better for the land to leave it the fuck alone.

Putting cattle on the land is MUCH more natural than shaving up the top 5ft of soil then dowsing it in pesticides and sucking all the nutrients out by blanketing it with crops that suck enormous amount of nutrients out of the soil then harvest the items that would have replenished the soil if they weren't stolen from the land.. The cows fertilize the land and keep the grass healthy by keeping the length down which is necessary for light to reach the lower areas of grass.

Vegans are so gullible and misinformed. I guess you'd have to be retarded to make a decision that defies common sense in the first place, though.

[Anonymous No.12483541]

>>12483513
200 a day? Shocking
https://thevegancalculator.com/animal-slaughter/ yes it's a vegan site but that STATISTICS is from neutral sources

[Anonymous No.12483549]

>>12483541
Yes, I'm sure they were taken from neutral sources and neutrally parsed to encourage a neutral result that is completely neutral for their neutral website. Absolutely nothing taken out of context and no asterics ignored at any step. Totally neutral.

[Anonymous No.12483558]

>>12483539
Did you know that grass fed cattle produce far more methane than grain/corn/soy -fed?

[Anonymous No.12483561]

>>12483549
http://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/QL

[Anonymous No.12483586]

sometimes I think people are so into animal rights because any sort of sanctity for any sort of life helps you convince yourself that your own is less meaningless.

[Anonymous No.12483603]

>>12475225
Yikes

[Anonymous No.12483671]

>>12483558
Grass fed cattle taste better and provide higher-quality milk.

[Anonymous No.12483711]

>>12483671
Probably true. But they are still a green house gas producing machine.

[Anonymous No.12483724]

>>12472750
I think you're right anon, how about we cull 10% of the population?

[Anonymous No.12483735]

>>12483711
Some places harvest that gas and turn it into useful energy now.

[Anonymous No.12483753]

>>12483735
Oh they have cow fart huffing machines? But that would mean they have to be inside.. Wich means they have to eat animal feed.

[Anonymous No.12483758]

>>12481661
Cows were invented by humans to be eaten in the first place. Indians and vegans are like future people in Plane of the Apes or a Star Trek episode worshiping a roll of toilet paper.

[Anonymous No.12483768]

>>12483758
>Cows were invented by humans

>muh star trek

[Anonymous No.12483769]

>>12483753
You think cows eat the whole time?
They chew cud for most of it because grass takes so long to digest.

[Anonymous No.12483779]

>>12483769 A cow spends 6 hours each day eating and 8 hours chewing her cud. A first digestive compartment called the rumen holds up to 50 gallons of partially digested food, which the cow regurgitates to chew. Methane emission through this process is constant.

[Anonymous No.12483790]

>>12483779
That gas can at least be partially harvested.
Better than not harvesting it at all.

[Anonymous No.12483806]

>>12472749
This. I'm thoroughly convinced that veganism is just a way for the neurotic to feel a little better about their meaningless existence while simultaneously neglecting to ask themselves questions about just how bad the vegan supply chain is. It's nothing but mental gymnastics, and I feel that vegans are just idiots who want to feel good about something, but can quite grasp the actual spread of their carbon footprint through that lifestyle choice.

[Anonymous No.12483832]

>>12483806
How can a burger made of plants possibly be better than a burger made of cow who needs to eat it's weight in plants three times every hour?

[Anonymous No.12483946]

>>12483769
No, only 14 hours of the day.

[Anonymous No.12483969]

>>12472652
Maybe below most of us... for sure not you.. my dog can make a better argument.. fucking beta

[Anonymous No.12483977]

Dollars to donuts it's the carbs from the bread or the irradiated fixings and not the meat that is fucking us up.

[Anonymous No.12483993]

>>12483977
What are you basing that of?

[Anonymous No.12484052]

>>12472910
rats are a million times more intelligent than a cow, what are you in about?

[Anonymous No.12484057]

>>12483993
Basing it of his will to eat meat.

[Anonymous No.12484521]

>>12477535
This graph tells me jack shit.
I could literally interpret it that we have more people therefore more meat is eaten.

[Anonymous No.12484537]

>>12483977
You know they can take nutritional information from just the patties, right?

[Anonymous No.12485011]

>>12482308
no because that is utterly (haha) impossible. What the fuck reports are you smoking

[Anonymous No.12485342]

>>12483806
>everything is meaningless so don't believe in anything
saying this about something you disagree with isn't le epic trump card you think it is

[Anonymous No.12486635]

>>12481736
>journalist
>data

you realize journalists and scientists are different things, right? maybe get your information from actual scientists and not fox news, retard.

[Anonymous No.12486642]

>>12472869
>Twitter
>>12478490
>leddit

samefag schizoposting.

[Anonymous No.12486656]

>>12473777
If you're going to quote figures, please include the source.

[Anonymous No.12486667]

>>12483832
Paper is made from plants, and the paper business is not exactly ecological.

[Anonymous No.12486690]

>>12486667
but making paper from plants is undeniably a more efficient use of resources than making paper from fucking cows, you absolute retard

[Anonymous No.12486696]

>>12486690
Why won't you drink that hot cocoa?

[Anonymous No.12486701]

>>12486690
You sound like you've had a rough day anon. Try smoking a joint or drinking a beer.

[Anonymous No.12486709]

>>12484521

1960: 180 mill 22 billion pounds consumed

2018: 327 mill 51 billion pounds flesh consumed.

It's not a dramatic increase per capita but to state that we eat less meat now than ever is just false.

[Anonymous No.12486724]

>>12486656
It's data from the United Nations
http://mdgs.un.org/unsd/mdg/Data.aspx
Site is hard to maneuver though. Google "emissions per capita" then you can see compiled lists based off the UN data

[Anonymous No.12486926]

>>12473092
this

[Anonymous No.12486942]

>>12473184
The problem is that starch can starve the brain of nutirents

[Anonymous No.12486950]

>>12486942
Do you have a source for that that doesn't come from a balding psychopath?

[Anonymous No.12486975]

>>12479155
>t. actual faggot

[Anonymous No.12487063]

>>12473762
so if I order my steak from overseas it's not significantly worse compared to getting it locally? that's good to know, the local animal protection laws really crank up the prices.

[Anonymous No.12487086]

>>12472606
People act like a soyburger is some big new thing, gas stations have been selling them for years and years. Also every microwave burrito is soy. "Textured vegetable protein"

[Anonymous No.12487128]

>>12472764
>>12472754

Reminder that soy production and soy products are one of the largest contributors to deforestation and soil infertility, but vegans are literal cultist retards.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/brazil-deforestation/
https://globalforestatlas.yale.edu/land-use/industrial-agriculture/soy-agriculture
https://news.mongabay.com/2019/04/brazil-soy-trade-linked-to-widespread-deforestation-carbon-emissions/

[Anonymous No.12487140]

>>12472750
True, people eat too much meat and could deal with eating a bit less, especially processed meats.

But people eat way WAAAAY too much grains and starches. Lean meats and veggies with occasional berries is the god-tier diet.

[Anonymous No.12487179]

>>12473120
This entirely. Also, to virtue signal and have an immense false sense of superiority. I've met some pretty cool vegetarians, but I have never, not once, met a vegan that wasn't full of themselves so much that their heads contributed to their massive undigested, constipated shits, because it was so far up their own ass.

[Anonymous No.12487187]

>>12487128
Reminder that a vast majority of soy grown is fed to livestock. Especially soy grown in South america. Depending on source it seems like between 75 - 90% of all soy grown is fed to animals.

[Anonymous No.12487188]

>>12473246
Friendly reminder that allowing cows to graze and shit naturally replenishes the soil nutrients, allowing the process to repeat indefinitely, whereas with vegan based production it causes mass deforestation and desertification in the fucking rainforests of all places.

[Anonymous No.12487189]

>>12472606
>summerfags still using the stale OH NO NO NO meme in 2019

[Anonymous No.12487201]

>>12487188
Freindly reminder that grass fed cows emit more methane than grain fed

[Anonymous No.12487203]

>>12483436
>hate boner for vegetarians

It's vegans I hate. Most vegetarians I've met are pretty chill and don't constantly remind me of their perceived superior lifestyle choice 24/7.

[Anonymous No.12487206]

>>12483753
>>12483711
>he doesn't know that Canada is one of the largest carbon sinks in the world since they have vast amounts of forests that counteracts big, scary climate change

Literally just plant more fucking trees.

[Anonymous No.12487215]

>>12487187
Reminder that I actually agree with you that the industry should focus more on grass feeding livestock than pumping them with xenos, which gets pumped back into us.

[Anonymous No.12487219]

>>12472631

[Anonymous No.12487232]

>>12487215
Reminder that no expert on the matter that isn't paid by the meat lobby believes grass fed cattle to be better for the environment
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/grass-fed-cows-won-t-save-climate-report-finds

[Anonymous No.12487272]

>>12487232
No, but they are better for us. All of our grains and soy should be fed to pigs and chickens. Let the cows have the grass. Then we get to eat them with fresh veggies.

[Anonymous No.12487319]

>>12487206
Not the guy(s) you were replying to, but with the way we're importing half of the world a lot of those nice forests are going to be gone. It's not just strictly about physical space but being somewhere colder we use a ton of resources too half the year. It's exponential growth in usage.

[Anonymous No.12487328]

>>12487319
Unfortunately, China, India and Africa don't give a fuck about overpopulation and the dark side of capitalism is creeping up on us, since I'm sure many large companies are pushing modern politicians to back immigration and outsourcing for profits at the cost of destroying the culture.

We need to colonize space already damnit.

[Anonymous No.12488006]

>>12472606
of course it fucking isn't. who the hell would think it would? The things that make burgers unhealthy are the bun and sauce
substituting a patty of protein for a patty of protein isn't going to significantly change its caloric makeup

[Anonymous No.12488059]

>>12487328
So export the same attitudes that resulted in the destruction of the only known habitable planet to other planets? Literally virus mentality.

[Anonymous No.12488060]

>fast food is unhealthy
Well duh.

[Anonymous No.12488091]

>>12483603
No U

[Anonymous No.12488262]

>>12472924
This and I'm a lazy piece of shit and just want to microwave a burger since it's faster. I'll just get real burgers when eating out now desu

[Anonymous No.12488296]

>>12487188
this

[Anonymous No.12488412]

>>12472874
>And vegan industry kills more animals than meat industry

lmao you cannot be serious

[Anonymous No.12489755]

>>12483724
But at random, dispassionate, fair to rich and poor alike.

[Anonymous No.12490014]

>>12481661
t.poo

[Anonymous No.12490052]

>>12483724
>>12489755
>Implying 10% is enough
It'd have to be more like 90%, or more, if we're to have actual freedom and prosper again.

[Anonymous No.12491571]

>>12472609
>twitter fag speak
>'nigger' pol edge
fuck you for coming here after gamer gate fag