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>make grilled cheese
>the bread burns before the cheese melts
>every single time without failure
>did it again with my stovetop on the lowest setting and using a ton of butter on the bread
Why is cooking so fucking hard?

>> No.12429713

>>12429710
Take the cheese out and slice it at least an hour in advance. Thinner slices will come to room temp faster that thicker ones. Don't try to cook a grilled cheese with cold cheese straight from the fridge.

>> No.12429716

have you tried not using frozen cheese

>> No.12429717

add like a tsp of water to the corner of the pan (not touching the bread) once halfway toasted, cover, cheese melts, uncover and evaporate and toast a lil bit more

>> No.12429718

>>12429710

Wouldn't have had this problem if you didn't fall for the /ck/ memes and just used American cheese like a true patriot.

>> No.12429720

have you tried not using kraft slices you stupid inbred?

it's not hard to grill cheese jesus christ

>> No.12429721

>>12429710
Are you sure the bread is "burning"? The shit's supposed to get brown, you know.

Are you using dollar store fake cheese? Because that shit won't melt in the center of the fucking sun, and it's a lost cause.

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>>12429710
>hurr must post anime

>> No.12429740

>>12429731
What’s wrong with anime pics? I don’t do anime but they’re cute

>> No.12429746

>>12429721
the first slice of the bread always goes black, but if i flip it early then both sides of the bread become golden brown and ready to eat while the cheese in the middle isn't melty at all.

>> No.12429753

>>12429731
>getting mad i post anime and cant cook a sandwich

fuck you bitch, this shit is hard as fuck

>> No.12429757

>>12429710
>>12429746
Use a mix of oil + butter, just in case it's the butter that's burning. Flip the grilled cheese regularly, maybe every one minute or so, just so that one side isn't touching the pan for too long. What kind of cheese are you using? Are you taking it out of the fridge and immediately putting it into the sandwich?

>> No.12429763

>stovetop

Go out and buy a panini press like the pros use. You think the grilled cheese sandwiches they serve in restaurants are just made in a pan? C'mon anon.

>> No.12429780

>>12429757
well today i tried 1 slice of provolone and 1 slice of kraft and it was straight from the fridge. Will try letting the cheese come to room temp first next time.

>> No.12429787

>>12429757
>>12429780
Also I put a small bit of butter in the pan first and used mayo on the bread since I like that it doesn't get as greasy. I still ate it, because the first side of the bread got barely burned, but at least the other side was perfectly browned.

>> No.12429838

>>12429780
Well that's weird, provolone and Kraft singles are both super melty cheeses. Alright, so what do you have your range set on when you're trying this? Does your stovetop have a "jews" setting? Perhaps it burns because you're applying excessive heat that scorches the bread before having a chance to melt the cheese.

>> No.12429858

>>12429838
Well I have a gas stove. I put it on 8 first to heat up the pan and dropped the butter in, swirled it all around the pan, then i dropped it to 5 since most people say medium heat is fine for grilled cheese. I put the bread and both slices of cheese on, put mayo on the second slice and put that on top. I waited about 30-45 seconds with it on 5 and I started to smell the burning, but I looked and the cheese still looked ice cold, so i quickly flipped the thing and half of the bread was blackened (maybe it's the mayo?) and kind of looked like a bark on some bbq. Then I turned the stovetop to 2 and let the thing slowly brown on the other end and the sandwich came out like half melted. Was ok enough to eat for a failure.

>> No.12429878

>>12429710
Use the broil setting on the oven.
Place two slices of bread on a cooking sheet.
Place cheese on one slice of bread.
Insert into oven with broil on.
Broil will toast the one bread while melting the cheese.
When bread is toasted, flip toasted side down onto cheese.
When bread toasts again, flip over.
When bread toasts again, grilled cheese is done.
Turn off oven and remove.
This works every time.

>> No.12429896

>>12429878
That's a cheese toasty, not a grilled cheese.

>> No.12429904

>>12429896
Same shit, different day.

>> No.12429916

>>12429710
Minimal butter, medium heat, not too much cheese. Unless your pans are shit idk what to tell you, there's not a lot of variables to this.

>> No.12429944

>>12429858
Oh, well, there you go. Gas ranges are variable, settings like "8" or "5" are arbitrary in terms of actual temperature, and meaningless until you either intuit them or measure them with an IR thermometer and calibrate them. And the way your pan conducts heat his also a factor. Gas stoves just aren't as standardized as electrics, they're quirky. Idiosyncratic.

You either have to learn your stove's ins and outs through experience, or strict scientific rigor. I'd learn by experience, personally, a loaf of bread and a pack of cheese slices are cheap af. I'd make a family sized pot of tomato soup and just fuck with the temperature settings until I figured out how to dial in perfect grilled cheese.

>> No.12429970

>>12429731
Dunno if you noticed, but we really like anime on this here competitive show chicken breeders and enthusiast board.

>> No.12429977

>>12429713
>Don't try to cook a grilled cheese with cold cheese straight from the fridge.
This helps, but you don't need to take it out a full hour ahead of time. Just lay out your 2 or 3 slices flat on a plate, while you butter your bread, and warm your pan. Cheese will warm up enough. Or you can grate your cheese. Is your cheese a melty one? I usually use a mixture of something sharp, and something more meltable. Not all cheese is the same.

Use nonstick, and use something with a thicker bottom, it might help to help the toasting without sticking or burning from uneven heating. You can cover your pan in the beginning, heating it through to the center, just uncover it enough at the end, flipping both sides, so no soggy crusts on both.

Don't use cheap low price bread that has sugary elements or a bread known to be sugary, and bread conditioners. Get some higher quality crusty bread. It might be less likely to burn on you.

>> No.12430001

>>12429858
Use lower heat. You just got to play with the stove until you figure out the right setting to do shit. Since it burns at 8 try starting at 5 and lower it to 2 or 3 when it starts to burn at 5.
Easy.

>> No.12430021

>>12429710
cooking it on low is right but a lot of butter is not
also rotate them so they cook evenly

>> No.12430047

>>12429710
>>12429713
>>12429977
I take cheese straight from the fridge and make perfect grilled cheese every time. I think you guys are just retarded

>> No.12430056

>>12429858
Your pan is too hot. Do everything you're doing but lower heat. If the pan is too hot the toast will burn, it's better to go slow and relax and you can speed it up eventually once you've the experience making it.

>> No.12430060

>>12429710
other things to try; mayo instead of butter on the outside of the bread (cooks a little more slowly), and cover the pan with a lid after spritzing a little water on the hot pan after putting the sandwich down. steam helps to melt the cheese without cooking the bread. best done after flipping

>> No.12430076

>>12429713
Or you could microwave your grilled cheese for like 30 seconds before cooking it on the stove.

>> No.12430120

Use ghee instead of butter, cover your pan with a lid, and cook the grilled cheese on medium or medium-low.

>> No.12430131

>>12429710
Cook open face with cheese on both sides and the other side smeared evenly with room temp butter then cook med-low COVERED. Perfect every time. Cook quesadillas open face too.

>> No.12430141

Ooooh here’s my go to:
>Nonstick pan.
Toast one dry side of bread in pan.
Remove halfling toast.
Slam cheese right in the pan.
Wait for it to bubble.
Lay crispy side of halfling bread onto cheese.
Small circular motions with medium pressure will adhere cheese to bread and lift it off the pan.
Flip.
Add something on top of cheese before combining to make a cheesy cocoon (like cold tomatoes, cum, or both)
Finish toasting outside of the combined sando in residual cheese grease.
Top with pinch of salt.

>> No.12430153

>>12429710
It's okay, retards are bad at lots of things. Brainmores like me are good at everything they do.

>> No.12430161

>>12430153
Bet you're real good at sucking your own dick.

>> No.12430284

>>12430076
what the fuck is wrong with you? you're ruining the bread that way

>> No.12430318

>>12430284
20-30 seconds isn't enough time to change the texture of the bread, maybe it might make it a bit chewier which is good if the bread is really soft.

>> No.12430337

>>12430047
They are. Most of the people on ck are absolutely terrible at cooking. It's actually shocking how bad the majority of them are.

>> No.12430365
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12430365

it's a grilled cheese how do you even fuck it up

butter two pieces of bread, stick them together butter to butter, put the cheese on top.

pan on 4, toss layer with cheese in, dont put the second bread on until you need to flip it.

after reading the replies in this thread I made a chart of how to do this since jesus christ who the fuck microwaves bread

>> No.12430523

>>12430365
when I was a young neglected child and was not able to turn on the oven (gas oven) or use the hob, I used to make sliced bread pizza with ketchup and singles and microwaving it until the cheese melted. the bread comes out soggy at the bottom because of the trapped moisure and the cheese come out greasy around the edges and still a bit unmelted in the centre.

I loved it anyway. burning my mouth on it was the closest I got to feeling the warmth of a caring family

>> No.12430530

>>12430365
No no you are mistaken THIS >>12430131 is the best most efficient grilled cheese algorithm

>> No.12430563

>>12430530
i mean sure thats a good method but tonnes of people don't have lids that fit on their pans, and that method also requires a large pan
the way I showed can also be used to feed many people on a flat griddle

>>12430523
did you at least toast the bread in the toaster first because that is really depressing to think about a kid eating a damp piece of wonder bread

>> No.12430609

>>12430365
>dont put the second bread on until you need to flip it.

Nonsense, i always put the sandwich together and flatten it down before putting it on the stove lightly fried in bacon grease/butter with something heavy resting on it like a cast iron skillet with a layer of foil.

>> No.12430619

>>12430609
It depends on whether you're buttering the bread or just frying it in the greased pan

>> No.12430660

>>12430609
then just get a panini press or shove it in a waffle iron

>> No.12430728

>>12430563
no, we didn't have a toaster. we just ate room temperature bread. if you leave them out they crisp up but that takes planning

>> No.12430734

>>12429710
Are you using Kraft Singles? They don't melt.

>> No.12430746

>>12429720
If there's anything Kraft slices do well it's that they melt.

>> No.12431361

>>12429713
Nobody that wants a grilled cheese wants to wait an hour for prep.

>> No.12431940

>>12429731
anime website. also, I recognize that faggy post style(and the unoriginal redit wojak, you shitpost here a lot. Kindly kill yourself.

>> No.12431945

>>12429904
its fucking not you retard

>> No.12431951

>>12429710
do it on medium heat retard, that applies to just about everything

>> No.12432415

>>12430563
>many people don't have matching lids
Nigga what? What kind of retard doesn't have the lid? Further, by cooking open face you brown both sides of the bread which halves the time required to complete the grilled cheese. It is the superior methodology. Further it is even moreso superior when adding extra fillers such as in a tuna melt as one side gets cheese then filler and the other side just cheese and then you put the just cheese side on top to finish without fussing over flipping a heavy sandwich and spilling filling.

>> No.12432419

>>12431940
>anime website
Keep telling yourself that, newfag.

>> No.12432428

>>12432419
Ask any normalfag about 4Chinks and they’ll say it’s either a white supremacist or a Japanese cartoon site.
Blame main stream media.

>> No.12432509

>>12432419
>>12432428
it is a fucking anime website you dunces, im here from nearly the beginning. Fucking /pol/ rotted your brains.

>> No.12432548

>>12432509
Found the normalfag.
Let me guess, got here some time around 2016 you filthy fucking casual?

>> No.12432555

>>12432548
>filthy casual
grow up kid.
>2016
pretty much(minus a decade)

>> No.12433097

>>12432415
the same retards who can't even manage to make a grilled cheese

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>>12432419
Dumb normalfag, kill yourself