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Warm memo: Actually getting proper nutrition is the most logical method for eternal youth, especially amongst fitness …

>all vitamins and minerals (*)
>lots of protein (e.g., 150g)
>powerful antioxidants (Sangre de Grado and astaxanthin)
>even 5-HTP (for melatonin and serotonin) and L-DOPA (for epinephrine and dopamine)
>metabolites for choline, acetylcholine, acetyl-CoA, NAD …
(*) – http://www.nutrientsreview.com/glossary/essential-nutrients

PS: Truly great culinary experiences are only possible having had flavorful stevia. It is *the* best low-calorie sweetener, and even surpasses sugar for tastiness (with obvious and other benefits). Sugar has some unique properties, but it's possible getting those with low amounts, or alternatives, and actually sweetening the recipe with many options amongst different combinations of stevia compounds.

PPS:
•Universal cures for cancer and tangle diseases are already available.
•A lot of knowledge goes way beyond common practices. Bulking and fasting are both memery; keto is actually really beneficial; and vitamin C is suggested of requirements much greater than even a few grams (some small animals are producing 10+ / day).

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Weird Flex Op

>> No.12390681

>>12390626
>Universal cures for cancer and tangle diseases
What's a tangle disease? And what are some guaranteed cancer cures?

>> No.12390705

>>12390626
What’s 5-HTP and L-DOPA? Also, what do I have to eat to get it?

>> No.12390749

>>12390705
5-HTP comes in pills. It's what you take the morning after doing MDMA.

>> No.12390751

explain why every health nut from the 70s is dead then
or why every health nut from now looks awful
you're gunna die my friend, and it's already determined 95% by your genetics. you may as well enjoy that cheeseburger.

>> No.12390850

Good tasting food is immoral.

>> No.12390854
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>>12390681
>What's […]
Alzh, Pars …

" … Something of awareness is that astaxanthin (and similar products such as spirulina) are plausible for BMAA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-Methylamino-L-alanine/)), which is a toxin, 'possibly misincorporated into nascent proteins in place of L-serine … causing protein misfolding and aggregation … '.

A). This is telling for a potential huge causation of locomotor and behavioral mysteries. (Correlatively, another is simply nutriment deficiency.)
B). 'Co-administered BMAA with serine was found to have 70% less beta-amyloid plaques and neurofibrillary tangles than those administered BMAA alone, suggesting that serine may be protective against the neurotoxic effects of BMAA.'"

So …
A). These things are caused by similar situations, e.g., non-availability of substrates for cells.
B). Obviously, cells are very great at sperm+egg to adult-human. Logically, it's produced by simple algorithms (e.g., phi … the golden ratio), and is propagated best amongst full nutrition (though, how rare that is further evidences the efficiency), so with all of the dietary problems and public mysteries – and humans still often being very apt creatures – actually getting nutrients for building blocks has huge potential.
C). *


>cancer
[Image] – it correlates with the grams of vitamin C thing, but also available is mixing that with the antiobiotic Doxycycline (which has a natural analog of Carvacrol).

>>12390751
The above (minimalistic nutrition; no backups such as the antibiotic + C combination) …

A lot of what I'm mentioning is still enigmatic to most. /fit/ is still arguing on bulking and fasting; and many demogrpahics … about dietary cholesterol, even with how expensive its biosynthesis is, and how its the rate-limiter on steroid production (so, many benefits).

*). Supplements are available now for so many compounds …

>genetics
Genetic similarity is some 99.5%, potentially 100% with nutrition and fitness …

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>>12390705
There are powders derived from plants, some 99% purity / potency.

5-HTP: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GW40WL0

L-DOPA: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-100-L-Dopa-Powder-Levodopa-Mucuna-Pruriens-Dopamine-4oz-120g-240-Servings/110697592755

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>>12390854
You incipient schizophrenics always have that overly-complex language addiction just before you slip into total coherence.
>>12390681
Fasting, reducing overall carbohydrates, avoiding cured meats, avoiding heavy alcohol consumption, and eating fiber are the only proven dietary methods which have any correlative effect on lower cancer incidence.

Fasting - appears to 'force' cells to 'clean up' leftover bits and broken chains inside the cell. i.e. cells get hungry and eat the leftover shit which causes damage

Lower carbs - high carbs abuse the pancreas and liver. This causes organ damage there, and may lead to systemic cancers as well although that's not proven.

Cured meats - cured meats have correlated with higher cancer rates for decades. This one is rock solid. Several possible reasons why.

Heavy alcohol - causes cancer, ask Christopher Hitchens.

Fiber - fiber feeds your alimentary canal and enables it to process things better. Your alimentary canal is the 2nd most important immune organ after the skin. It has to decide what to bring into your body and what to reject. Fiber also moderates sugar and carb impact on the insulin system, reducing insulin and sugar spikes which are one causal factor of inflammation in general which leads to diabetes, systemic diseases like neuropathy, and cancer in general.

>Muh vitamin C

Linus Pauling propagated this nonsense around the time he was losing the search for DNA to Watson and Crick. He is an absolutely brilliant Chemist but was wacky just like Newton, who spent most of his time researching Numerology in the Bible.

Because of Linus, we now have generations of idiots poisoning themselves with Vit C. You body is going to reject excess Vit C like with any vitamin or mineral, until the tax upon your system is so great it leads to liver, kidney, or digestive failures and possibly contribute to cancers as well.

Good luck anon, there are no food Miracles except pic related

>> No.12390940

>>12390936
*incoherence
t. non-proofreader

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>>12390936
>You
[Not an argument].

>only proven dietary methods
Another was literally just posted (>>12390854).

>fasting
Logically, far surpassed by anabolism. This is evidence-able anecdotally: great dieting for about five days, where skin is really healthy; then fasting for a day or two – it vastly decreases quality of smoothness and other characteristics. "How much more, then, musculature in greater-than-sedentary lifestyles … "

>the leftover …
That suggests sub-par nutrition and fitness, e.g., water, omega 3s, quality / types of food (and amounts) …

>cured meats
This also seems a nutriment problem, specifically antioxidants (nitrites / nitrates are NO producers, which is technically a free radical), but especially vitamin C, which increases NO potential, suggesting healthily (it's also an antioxidant).

>alcohol
Moderation is obvious, but effects are actually associated to levels of hunger (keywords: hypoglycemia, ghrelin), allowing smaller amounts, and cycles of hungry + alcohol calories …

>fiber
Having enough fiber for displacing sugar suggests carbs, which are also sugar.

Replacing carbs with protein, specifically powders, is still really healthy (even simply for the GH gains, but there are so many other benefits).

>>Muh vitamin C
>excess
It's similar to other water mixes, and the acidity is counter-able with bases, e.g., L-arginine (which increases NO and GH).

Also … [image] evidences that in non-biosynthesizers .01% (about 5x the RDA) was non-effective in producing the blood metrics (and, in the article, QoL) of natural producers, whereas .4% (about 15g / day) was effective.

So, there's way more evidencing the necessity of such supplementation.

>> No.12391098

>don't eat that you'll die in fifty years
>get hit by a truck
>die anyway
Not being obese I can understand because aside from lowering your life expectancy it has immediate deleterious effects on your life. But not eating a cheeseburger because you might get cancer? Autism, and you'll probably get cancer anyway.

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>>12390936
>You
[Not an argument].

>only proven dietary methods
Another was literally just posted (>>12390854 (You)).

>fasting
Logically, far surpassed by anabolism. This is evidence-able anecdotally: great dieting for about five days, where skin is really healthy; then fasting for a day or two – it vastly decreases quality of smoothness and other characteristics. "How much more, then, musculature in greater-than-sedentary lifestyles … "

>the leftover …
That suggests sub-par nutrition and fitness, e.g., water, omega 3s, quality / types of food (and amounts) …

>cured meats
This also seems a nutriment problem, specifically antioxidants (nitrites / nitrates are NO producers, which is technically a free radical), but especially vitamin C, which increases NO potential, suggesting healthily (it's also an antioxidant).

>alcohol
Moderation is obvious, but effects are actually associated to levels of hunger (keywords: hypoglycemia, ghrelin), allowing smaller amounts, and cycles of hungry + alcohol calories …

>fiber
Having enough fiber for displacing sugar suggests carbs, which are also sugar.

Replacing carbs with protein, specifically powders, is still really healthy (even simply for the GH gains, but there are so many other benefits).

>>Muh vitamin C
>excess
It's similar to other water mixes, and the acidity is counter-able with bases, e.g., L-arginine (which increases NO and GH).

Also … [image] evidences that in non-biosynthesizers, .01% (about 5x the RDA) was non-effective in producing the blood metrics (and, in the article, QoL) of natural producers, whereas .4% (about 15g / day) was effective.

So, there's way more evidencing the necessity of such supplementation.

>> No.12391149

Dumb fuck OP

This is a cooking board, maybe next time try saying something worthwhile

>> No.12391156

>>12391045
The human body was evolved to 'fast'. It is one of the most rational and logical dietary methods alongside meat-eating and avoidance of excess carbohydrates.

>cured meats
The correlation of cured meats to colorectal cancer are among the strongest in all of science. Sorry. I love bacon and sausage and Iberico, but you can chase causation all you want. The correlation is rock solid.

>eat industrial proteins instead of carbs
Carbs are the enemy but industrialized sports supplements are the Traitor. Traitors get the rope first on the Day of the Turd.

>vit c
Not of itself much of a problem which is why this myth has persisted for so long. However, people consuming too much containing products ruins their teeth and epithelial linings, which have systemic effects far more dire than even acute scurvy. This also encourages people to take supplements, with their associated starches, binders, chelating agents, dessicants, dyes, and other industrialized consumer products.

I'll hand it to the gearbros: at least they know they're paying a price for their vanity. You could at least have the good manners to admit you're a fuckup, but you deranged hippies never admit that even as your friends lie sucking wind on a gurney with tubes sticking all out of them.

>> No.12391162

>>12391149
This schizophrenic retard spams his shit everywhere no matter how unrelated it is

>> No.12391678

>>12390749
Ahh, I’ve been wanting to try Molly for some time now. If I ever get my hands on some I’ll keep that in mind.

>> No.12391702

>>12390854
do you always talk like a complete schizo?

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>>12391162
>>12391702

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>>12393253
>the summary of your brain

>> No.12394433
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WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?

>> No.12395562

>>12394433
If you figure that out please let me know.

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>>12391156
For >>12391103 (reposted)

>evolved
[Image]. Non-argument / 10.

>correlation of …
Very few (if any) scholarly articles are controlling for proper nutriments. Appealing to authority / 10.

>>industrial proteins
Simplified nutrients are huge for efficacy, pricing, and fundamental properties for recipes..

>>vit c
>[strawman]

>[critiquing supplements for some imaginary or irrelevant contents]