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Why are the best bagels in New York, and the worst bagels in Montreal? Is there something in the water, like with pizza?

>> No.12380113

>>12380072
no, new yorkers are just better than everyone else at everything.

>> No.12380119

>>12380072
Honestly I wouldn't be too fussed who makes the best version of a shit tier food.

>> No.12380187

because you're used to eating styrofoam

>> No.12380195

>>12380113
Haha OMG, a New Yorker would totally say this.

>> No.12380200

>>12380072
You're talking shit. Montreal bagels are great. The only bagels that can go toe to toe with NYC.

t. Lived in both cities

>> No.12380249

there's this little secret ingredient called salt. You may have heard of it

The stupid "theres something in the water" routine is just a sales schtick

>> No.12380250

>>12380119
>bagel
>shit tier food

>> No.12380312

>>12380250
Its a fucking loaf of bread with a hole in it.

>> No.12380318

>>12380312
You must be from Wyoming

>> No.12380373
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12380373

>>12380072
Both are good but I prefer Montréal's one.

>> No.12380704

>>12380113
accurate

>> No.12380709

>>12380072
More Jews in NYC. The bagel's power grows with each Jew in proximity.

>> No.12380717

>>12380072
It's probably the way they boil the bagels, but really it's not THAT much better than a bagel made the same way elsewhere.

>> No.12380749
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>>12380717
>boiling bagels
anon I...

>> No.12380786

>>12380113
>bedbug ridden sewage stinking concrete jungle full of garbage heaps
>better at anything than anyone
NYC is a sad excuse of a city full of retards that cope with paying exorbitant rent for shitty QoL by praising trivial shit and goying soyface.jpg at something like fucking bread rolls with a hole in the middle.

>> No.12380792

>>12380749
How do you think bagels are made?

>> No.12380814

>>12380072
people outside of nyc generally just don't understand how to make bagels, it's nothing secret. they literally just don't go through the process of boiling then baking the bagels so you just get some shitting round bread thing in the end without a good crust.

>> No.12380821

>>12380749
Are you joking?

>> No.12380837

>>12380749
Of course they're bagels. Do you really think Jews would keep an oven around?

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>>12380709
>More Jews in NYC. The bagel's power grows with each Jew in proximity.
S. Florida bagels are excellent and as far as I know, far more per capita in the population than Montreal. But, freshness matters and wherever you live locally is probably going to be well, all you can do, when you want them fresh.

>> No.12380845

>>12380786

I wouldn't live there if you paid me. These fucking morons who haven't had a decent living environment can't seem to figure out that a few broadway shows and street food you can get anywhere else is worth the human suffering and cost.

>> No.12381710

>>12380709
Well they're pretty much nonexistent in Israel.

>> No.12381718

>>12380786
>>12380845
Please stay wherever the fuck you are and whatever you do don't come here.

t. New Yorker

>> No.12381952

>>12381718
Don‘t worry, bubbah, I won‘t. Though I would advise you to travel around the world and see what other actually good big cities are like. New Yorkers ironically have this extreme flyover quality of never leaving the tristate, yet ardently believing that their extremely generic and bland glorified shopping mall of a city is unique, special and great.

>> No.12382779

>>12381718
Why are you cunts so triggered about your food? Pizza, bagels, halal food carts, etc. Just accept that there might be better food elsewhere!

>> No.12383521

>>12380845
>I wouldn't live there if you paid me.
That's because you hate non flyover food

>> No.12383546

>>12380749
You're not allowed to ever come back to this board you absolute brainlet

>> No.12384524

>>12380249
>The stupid "theres something in the water" routine is just a sales schtick
If thats true why can't anyone outside of NYC cook pizza like NYC?

>> No.12384581

>>12380072

internal biases

>> No.12385026

>>12384524
>If thats true why can't anyone outside of NYC cook pizza like NYC?
There's nothing special about NYC pizza. It's all in your head.

>> No.12385032

>>12380072

Parisian bagels are the best fight me

>> No.12385047

>>12380249
They have good tap water though. When ever i wash my hair there it is the softest it had ever been

>> No.12385085

>>12380072
Here's something from someone who has lived in NYC for a very long time. The best ones are in the residential neighbourhoods, generally on the east side of Manhattan.
If you're some fucking tourist that expects excellent bagels in times square or on the west side then so be it, you'll get what you'll expect, tourist shit.

>> No.12385112

>>12385085
... also the fags on the west side of manhattan have no taste.
If you must go to the UWS in Manhattan then try out the American Museum of Natural History, the plantarium there is kind of nice.
Friends and I in HS would get wasted and trip out and check out the rock room and then the Hayden Planetarium.

>> No.12385141

>>12385085
>>12385112
hi angry phillip morris guy. east side hasn't been considered a cultural area for decades, the children of the old money families moved to the village or park slope because UES is completely unliveable. the mummies are all on life support waiting to die and what's moved in has been mostly 1st year wall street analyst bros in their early 20s who flee to a better area as soon as their income improves.

you obviously haven't been back since the '80s.

>> No.12385149

>>12380837
It's always a CBA, look that up.

>> No.12385153

>>12385141
Explain yourself, what does this have to do with Philip Morris? Are you mister creepy guy that gets things wrong all of the time?

>> No.12385169

>>12385141
Of all of the people on this page, you're te one tracking others and wrong. I do aerospace myself. I don't what's going on with what you say, and I'm not quite sure why you care, that makes you creepy.
Let's say I was that person, that makes you pretty fucking creepy, almost to that level of where I'd call the cops on you.

Explain yourself, why do you think I'm the PM guy, why are you jealous, and why do you suck ass?

>> No.12385173

>>12385153
>>12385169
>doubleposting
Yep, it's you alright.

Tell the one about the gays of Christopher Street again.

>> No.12385181

>>12385173
Why does it matter to you?

>> No.12385188

>>12385173
The only reason that I can think of is that they turned you down for a job.

>> No.12385189

>>12385173
That's not doubleposting, it's you being a fucking creep.

>> No.12385202

>>12385181
>>12385188
>>12385189
Yikes, it's tripleposting now. Lasting brain damage from your short stint in Manhattan working at Phillip Morris inhaling all those toxins.

The other way we can tell it's you is because of your fixation on job security. H1-Bs got you down again? Must be because of Hillary Clinton and the carbon tax, right? Stand in line in the fashionable new Starbucks to be photographed by the paparazzi, and you'll feel important again.

I am probably forgetting a few elements of your routine but I'm sure you'll remind me.

>> No.12385212

>>12385202
Yup, you must be right.
Faggots such are you are the ones that make no sense and that need government help.

>> No.12385225

>>12385202
I'd rather stand in line for a starbucks, something I'd never do then to be faggot such as you.

>> No.12385355

I enjoy the desperation those who can't afford NYC have to put into painting a negative picture of it because their world view falls apart if it actually turns out to be a playground they don't have access to.

>> No.12385375

>>12380113
Like gun control.

>> No.12385434

>>12380072
>>12380249
>>12384524
The water thing is pure myth. There is no difference beyond some changes in acidity, a difference which vanishes after the dough ferments

The actual secrets:
>High Gluten Flower or Bread Flower with Vital Wheat Gluten added
>Limit water content, 50%
>cold ferment or use ice water
>stretch and twist the fucking dough to form gluten chains, do not punch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFDFrzlYOXc

>> No.12385450

>>12380250
All Jewish food is shit.

>> No.12385471

>>12380113
*upstate new Yorkers
Downstate, the city and the island are just kikes and shitskins.

>> No.12385606

redpill me on bagels
are they just like raw hamburgers?

>> No.12385685

>>12385471
Keep thinking that and hitting your punch in card.

>> No.12385701
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12385701

>>12385606
It's more like horse.
Blame the Brits and euros, you're all spot on yet blame us in the USA for all of your problems. The more thousands of year old nations blame the USA, a nation not even 250 years old for all of your problems the less credibility that you have anywhere.

>> No.12385999

>>12385606
>redpill me on bagels
They make the best sandwiches

>> No.12386016

>>12380072
Overrated, t.new Jerseyan, only go there if I'm drunk in advance

>> No.12386714

>>12386016
>t.new Jerseyan
Your opinion doesn't count here. NJ has literally the worst food in the entire country!

>> No.12387817

>>12385999
That is clearly debatable. Rye bread makes the best sandwiches.

>> No.12388353

>>12387817
depends on the innards

>> No.12388354

>best
>new york
try again

>> No.12390024

>>12388354
Where would you say they are then?

>> No.12390031

>>12380749
Nice bait

>> No.12390171

Native New Yorker here. I quite enjoy Montreal bagels. I wouldnt compare them to New York bagels. Very different flavors and textures going on. NY bagels are best with lox and capers. Montreal bagels are best toasted with some butter.

>> No.12390446

>>12390171
>Montreal bagels are best toasted with some butter.
No they're best tossed in the trash. Even NYC rats refuse to eat a Montreal bagel.

>> No.12390454

>>12390024
Poland, probably. Or anywhere that isn't a rat-infested swamp with dirty tap water.

>> No.12390743

I like both. They're different but different doesn't mean bad.

>> No.12391233

>>12390743
The NY one tastes better though

>> No.12392655

Montreal bagels are overrated desu. Had a lot better ones in Ottawa. Also fuck frogs

>> No.12393516

>>12392655
>Montreal bagels are overrated desu.
BASED

>> No.12393563

>>12380113
Based

>> No.12394922

>>12391233
but why?

>> No.12394935

>>12380072
>best bagels
Noah's Bagels you plebs

>> No.12394947

>>12381952
i don't live in NY but i've been there and many other places around the world, and new york is easily a top 5 city. anyone who thinks otherwise is flyover garbage

>> No.12394954

>>12394947
Keep deluding yourself, NYCel.

>> No.12394959

>>12394954
hope you grow up one day :)

>> No.12394995

Fukken gross

>> No.12395010

>>12394959
I have. Hence me not going soyface.jpg at Jew York like you.

>> No.12395015

>>12394935
>Noah's
good but nothing to write home about, IMO.
they are changing their business model, hopefully they don't fuck it up.
https://www.berkeleyside.com/2019/01/23/bites-noahs-bagels-telegraph-in-berkeley-closes-plans-for-temescal-whole-foods-365-scrapped

>> No.12395026

>>12395015
>good but nothing to write home about, IMO.
doesn't recognize bait

>> No.12395717

>>12395010
>grown up mature adult
>using Jew York unironically

>> No.12396812
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>>12392655
>Also fuck frogs