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12290411 No.12290411 [Reply] [Original]

What is the punishment for dining and dashing in America?

>> No.12290414

Having to eat American food

>> No.12290422

penalty? around here it's a spectator sport we call dumpster diving involving the home disinclined.

and it's a right spot of fun when an abbo joins in, we all start chanting oi oi oi!

>> No.12290431

Everybody's cool with it as long as you leave a tip.

>> No.12290435

>>12290411
They make you wash dishes

>> No.12290470

>>12290411
What Is Defrauding an Innkeeper (PC 537)?
Defrauding an innkeeper is the legal way of describing a broad array of crimes such as obtaining food from a restaurant, lodging at a hotel, motel or private campground, or fuel from a gas station without paying.

While the crime may sound obsolete or a vestige from the nineteenth century, today this is what teenagers call “dine and dash” at a restaurant, but it can also include trying to use someone else’s credit card to pay without their approval.

A violation of § 537(a) or § 537(b) is punished based on the value of the services or goods taken without paying. If the value is $950 or less, the maximum punishment is a $1,000 fine, plus penalties and assessments (which can add over $4,000 to the total owed) and six months maximum in county jail. In our experience, this maximum punishment is reserved for only a small percentage of offenders. The person in question must have either a sophisticated plan, be a member of law enforcement or an attorney, or be quite uncooperative with police.

If the value of the goods or services exceeds $950, the crime is a wobbler. This means it can be charged as a felony or a misdemeanor and the punishment includes up to a year in county jail or over a year in state prison. If the value is many multiples of $950, it will likely be charged as a felony. If the person has a prior history for the same offense, and the value of the meal or services obtained exceeds $950, a felony would be likely.

>> No.12290476

>>12290411
you get locked up until you shit the food out then you're forced to eat it

>> No.12290516

do they make the people they catch work as a dishpig until they pay off their debt (plus tip)?

>> No.12290522

>>12290411
Depends on jurisdiction and whether the owner/management wasn't to prosecute. There's no one law in this huge nation that covers something like that and as long as it's not a violent crime it's likely a civil issue, not a criminal one.

>> No.12290535

>>12290411
You probably just get gunned down by police

>> No.12290545

>>12290522
Is it really a nation if you can't even share the same law?

>> No.12290552

>>12290411

Just go to a hotel with Continental breakfast, dressed well, and bring a duffel/backpack with you so you look like all the other guests. Desk clerks won't run the risk of offending an actual guest to actually accuse you of "stealing" food. I used to do this in college all the time, rotating the dozen hotels in my area infrequently. Over 4 years of college I did this probably 50+ times and never once was even spoke to by hotel employees, let alone accused or kicked out. Give it a shot, better than going to jail for theft of services.

>> No.12290554

>>12290411
Probably nothing. I bet you can get away with it two or three times before the pussy managers call the police. Even a ban won't keep you out of the restaurant unless you were drunk and disorderly or harassing other customers.

>> No.12290597

>>12290545
It's a federation of states which preceeded the federal government and there each state has more or less different laws. Plus civil law and criminal law in those jurisdictions can vary. One basic difference is that with criminal law is "beyond a reasonable doubt" and with civil nothing criminal happened and the requirement for a judgement is different its "preponderance of evidence." Sometimes it can be both but they're handled differently.

I had to memorize Black's law dictionary in high school so still remember a lot of that.

Weed laws are a good example of these differences. If the state's not willing to prosecute for some stupid joints technically the federal government can under stupid draconian bullshit laws but is it really worth their time to do so?