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>> No.12160772

>>12160739
no

Beef can be safe to eat if the outside is coocked but most raw meats carry significant risk of infection. Beyond this cooked foods are more easily chewed and digested meaning a greater amount of nutrition is gained from eating cooked foods. You can also overcook foods but properly cooked foods are best. Cooking meat is actually part of why we exist the way we do and is likely the reason we are even able to have this conversation. The person in your video is mentally retarded and stares directly at the sun for extended periods of time.

>> No.12160778

lol imagine his poopies :3c

>> No.12160791

>>12160739
why do you keep spamming this guy on /ck/? the majority of people here actually don't want to follow extreme trendy diets.

>> No.12160862

>>12160739
If it's fresh and from a healthy animal then yes. by healthy I also mean animals that primarily eat grass or feed not wild hogs or farmed pigs that are fed slop and eat rats and shit which may cause trichinosis. the problem is you cannot guarentee freshness unless you've just killed the animal yourself. if you buy it from a butcher you'll get a better idea of how fresh it is, if you buy it from a supermarket I wouldn't even consider it. cooking removes all guesswork and makes everything 100% safe if cooked properly so it's obviously safer to cook it first but uncooked meat can still be safe if you're cautious.

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12160877

>>12160778
>>12160862

>> No.12160882

>>12160882
no

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>>12160882
the fuck

>> No.12160897

>>12160882
It has broken free.
Mods, the permaban.

>> No.12160920

>>12160882
Oh, my!

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>>12160882

>> No.12160936

>>12160933

>> No.12160940 [DELETED] 

>>12160739
yes, try it. it

>>12160772
>cooked foods are more easily chewed and digested

most food is easier to chew raw. why do you think cooked food is easier to digest?

>Cooking meat is actually part of why we exist the way we do and is likely the reason we are even able to have this conversation

why do you think this?

>> No.12160958

>>12160739 (OP)
yes, try it. it

>>12160772
>cooked foods are more easily chewed and digested

most meat is easier to chew raw. why do you think cooked meat is easier to digest?

>Cooking meat is actually part of why we exist the way we do and is likely the reason we are even able to have this conversation

why do you think this?

>> No.12160970

>>12160940
>>12160958

>Cooking meat is actually part of why we exist the way we do and is likely the reason we are even able to have this conversation
because early humans stopped dying from food borne illnesses when they started cooking foods which allowed them to propagate the species more effectively by not being dead.

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>>12160882
put me in the screencap

>> No.12160990

>>12160970
all predators like hot meat
fresh kills are always hot, because the body is hot

>> No.12160992

>>12160970
>stopped dying from food borne illnesses when they started cooking foods

why do you think this happened? how do you marry this view with the fact all recorded indigenous tribes even to modern times, ate also raw meat? the maasai still eat raw meat

>> No.12160997

>>12160882
I am impressed. all hail skynet.

>> No.12161001
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12161001

>>12160882
WTF is this

>> No.12161004

>>12160997
It's not that hard
>>13160004

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>>12161004
Well I sure fucked that up didn't I.

>> No.12161013

>>12160992
>the maasai still eat raw meat
doesn't seem to be working so well for them.

those of us who have switched to cooking our food managed to invent the steam engine, IC engine, electricity, radio, aircraft, spaceflight, the internet, and so on. we've also managed to populate and colonize the whole planet.

what have the masaai done?

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>>12160882
I told them they shouldn't take the picture of that black hole. I told them, but they wouldn't listen.

>> No.12161022

>>12161004
You goddamned retarded son of a bitch

>> No.12161025

>>12160992
>how do you marry this view with the fact all recorded indigenous tribes even to modern times, ate also raw meat?

gonna need a source on that but lets assume you're correct, just because some tribes didn't start cooking meat doesn't mean that it's not why humans have been able to propagate to where we are today. they could simply be outliers that never caught on because they were so removed from the greater civilization and they never caught up.

>> No.12161042

>>12160791
all fifteen of us follow trendy diets. they're fifteen different trendy diets, all bitterly opposed to the others, but trendy nonetheless.

>> No.12161046

>>12161004
>>12161008
*wheeze*

>> No.12161074

>>12161013
>those who switched to cooking food implemented technological growth with archaic socio-religious institutions that have he world on the brink of annihilation
Looks like it hasn't worked out so well for the cooked food brigade, lol!

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>>12161004
>>12161008

>It's not that hard

>> No.12161124

>>12160992
>Using some random African tribe with presumably sub 70 average IQ as good measure
You proved his point. The only countries eating mostly or exclusively raw meat are underdeveloped ones. Even Japan, known for their signature raw dishes, treat sushi and sashimi as delicacies not to be eaten more than once a week (raw fish as a side dish can be quite common, but they're just a sidedish nonetheless to carbfilled white rice).

>> No.12161144

>>12161013
so? we live differently from them, technology plays a different, huge role in our society etc, it's just a completely different, imperialistic culture and society. we're not talking about societies, we're talking about what's the ideal diet for an individual human. how do you do you explain that these indigenous tribes survived for thousands of years and, despite knowing how to cook meat, chose to eat at least some of it raw?

>>12161025
there's plenty of examples, the maasai, eskimos, american indians all ate raw meat. caught on? they knew how to cook meat, they chose not to (some of it at least). they had hundreds probably thousands+ years of survival in their respective environment, and still chose to eat at least some of the meat raw. this fact is impossible to make congruous with your idea that raw meat in itself poses a big health risk to humans.

>> No.12161172

>>12161144
>we live differently from them
Yeah, that's the point. Cooking allows us to do that.

>> how do you do you explain that these indigenous tribes survived for thousands of years and, despite knowing how to cook meat, chose to eat at least some of it raw?
People do dumb shit and live despite it. I'd rather people thrive rather than merely survive.

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>>12160772
>Cooking meat is actually part of why we exist the way we do and is likely the reason we are even able to have this conversation.
You say that like it’s a good thing...cooking really was a mistake lads.

>> No.12161279

>>12161144
Not him, but noone is denying that you can live off of raw food. We've been doing that for millions of years and the inclusion of cooked meat has not reduced the carnivore side in us. It's just that digesting cooked meat in today's society is the healthier choice and just because these parasites or bacteria aren't strong enough to kill you, doesn't mean we should suffer through them, anyway. Most people eating cooked meat don't have vitamin deficiencies, so I am not exactly sure which nutrients you are implying we need so much from raw meat we cannot get from processed meat or a nutrient-dense fruit, be it citrus or berry.

>maasai
Irrelevant, poor African tribe.

>Eskimos and Native Americans
Have added nothing of value to the world, and saying "they ate some of their meat raw" is something different to saying "they ate their meat raw".
As for how healthy their raw diet is, there are research papers disproving them:
https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1814937!/httpFile/file.pdf
Again, noone is denying that we can't live off of raw meat, it's just that you still couldn't provide any benefits to eating it.

>this fact is impossible to make congruous with your idea that raw meat in itself poses a big health risk to humans.
To humanity as a whole, no, parasites are not especially dangerous. That's because lethal parasites are rare. The issue is, if you do catch one, none of these statistics are going to matter.

>> No.12161400

>>12161279
these tribes were the remnants of peoples who survived there living primitively for thousands of years. they weren't big into technology, but obviously they knew very well how to survive maximally off the land they lived in, what and how to eat it, that's what evolution does to you. the idea that they, despite knowing very well the mechanics of how to cook meat, just chose not to cook some of it, century after century, despite it supposedly being very dangerous to us, is not coherent, get it? can you address this?

cooking destroys enzymes and modifies the structure, destroys bacteria. nutritional science is very young, what we know is probably only scratching the surface. you take a piece of meat, then cook it and everything changes from the color, shape, taste, smell, texture, everything. if you against all your senses believe it's still mostly the same simply because some labcoat-nigger tells you "it's got the same nutrients, we measured it!!" you're retarded.

>> No.12161412

>>12160882
based and selfpilled

>> No.12161513

>>12161400
>can you address this?
I already did address it. Most meat isn't lethal to eat raw, it's just that if you're one of the unlucky ones, you might have to pay with your life.
As for evolution, Sub-Saharan Africans are a stupid bunch, of course they are bound to devolve and still survive. It's not just about "maximizing" survivability, it's also about culture. Wearing giant discs to destroy your underlip or cutting away a part of your cock is not going to help you survive, either. There are inefficient animals in nature who fit in just fine because they do the bare minimum to survive, nothing more.

>cooking destroys enzymes and modifies the structure, destroys bacteria.
Yeah, it does, but in turn it also helps digesting the meat, so the issue is nonexistent.

>you take a piece of meat, then cook it and everything changes from the color, shape, taste, smell, texture, everything. if you against all your senses believe it's still mostly the same simply because some labcoat-nigger tells you "it's got the same nutrients, we measured it!!" you're retarded.
Yes, I think it's mostly the same, because my ancestors, the grandfather of my grandfather, and his grandfather before him and so on, have eaten cooked meat their entire life. I don't need a doctor to tell me that cooked meat has similiar nutritional values. I have never suffered from any vitamin deficiencies, safe for vitamin D.

Please read posts thouroughly next time you want to argue.

>> No.12161577

>>12161513
>destroy your underlip or cutting away a part of your cock

none of these are lethal or meaningful, they're just eccentric habits. indigenous ppl of all around the world ate raw meat until modernity, it's not just a random eccentricity. i don't mean evolution in terms dna and natural selection only, i mean a peoplegroup and its lived culture being shaped by its surroundings in a fuller sense, over many centuries. you're not even close to giving an explanation to make them regularly eating raw meat coherent with it being dangerous, still makes no sense.

>in turn it also helps digesting the meat

why do you think this? because of something you read? have you been on a raw carnivore diet for a long period of time?

>> No.12161590

>>12161577
Before we continue this discussion that is leading us nowhere, can you explain to me, someone who is not deficient in animal vitamins, why I should start eating raw meat?
Will I feel happier? Will I get stronger? I am doing well enough with processed meat.

>> No.12161607

Why would anyone eat raw meat when cooked is available, it tastes so much better

>> No.12161616

>>12161590
yes and yes. and you can be smug and laugh at all the cooklets.

>> No.12161686

>>12161124
You'd die within days trying to live as a masaai in that environment. IQ is bullshit when you live outside of your priveleged world where you suck at your masters' tits for your handout. You probably bitch about the feminisation of the western male, too, lol.

>> No.12161729

>>12161686
>You'd die within days trying to live as a masaai in that environment.
You mean diet-wise? If I get gradually introduced to their bacteria, it would work pretty well.

>IQ is bullshit when you live outside of your priveleged world where you suck at your masters' tits for your handout.
You are just twisting the reality like a child explaining "sugar is healthy when you don't have parents". Does this autistic attempt for non-context badassery behaviour have a proper fallacy name?
For further explanation, IQ as a whole is incredibly important as we humans try to be no longer slaves to our inferior senses and accept abstract goals to be the key to happiness. In our pursuit for this happiness, we raise the quality of life of ourselves and of those around us. Africans aren't happy. They struggle through their lives and confuse pleasure with happiness.

>You probably bitch about the feminisation of the western male, too, lol.
Traps aren't gay.

>> No.12162191

>>12160958


Its the most current theory of our evolution. When food started being cooked we developed weaker jaws and larger brains.

>> No.12162209

>>12160958
I don't know what you can't understand about cooked foods including meat are easier to digest and thus provide greater nutritional benefit to the eater.

>> No.12162329

>>12160772
>cooked foods are more easily chewed and digested meaning a greater amount of nutrition is gained from eating cooked foods.
Literally factually wrong you absolute mental midget, especially for meat/fish

>> No.12162435

>>12161046
>>12161078
I'm glad my complete incompetence ateast brought some joy to others.

>> No.12162452

>>12162329
Its not wrong for a ton of meat.

>> No.12162576

>>12161607
yes especially with the organs

>> No.12162579

>>12162191
we dont even utilize all but 12% of our brain so this means nthing

>> No.12162581

>>12160882
Error in the matrix