can't justify eating pork anymore

[Anonymous No.12037689]

Anyone else quit eating pigs after finding about how intelligent they are?
I just can't eat an animal that passes the mirror test, remembers familial relations, performs exceedingly well at logic tasks, cares about hygiene and will literally dig latrines in the wild to shit in etc.

Meanwhile a dog fails the mirror test, commits incest readily, will eat its own shit, and is less intelligent than pigs, but people cry when they are eaten for dinner

I'm not advocate for veganism here, go ahead and eat dumbass animals like fish and chickens, i'm just saying pigs are too fuckin intelligent to eat

[Anonymous No.12037694]

mmmmmmm, oinky tasty
hehehehe c’mere oinky lemme eat ya

[Anonymous No.12037711]

>>12037689
If they're so intelligent why did they allow themselves to be eaten?

[Anonymous No.12037718]

>>12037689
Fair point annon.

[Anonymous No.12037722]

>>12037689
If that's where we set the bar, I've got a couple of orders to place for african long pig

[Anonymous No.12037730]

MORE PIG
MORE PIG

[Anonymous No.12037733]

>>12037689
i've given up pork as well, except ham.. it's too good with eggs

[Anonymous No.12037779]

>>12037689
Can't taste the intellect.
Damn shame they're so delicious. Sucks for them

[Anonymous No.12037801]

>>12037689
Pigs fail the self-recognition mirror test though. Eat away

[Anonymous No.12037829]

I only feel awful about Octopuses. Big brain nibbas them are.

[Anonymous No.12037855]

But Iberian pig is literally the beat land protein, it's so incredibly tasty...

[Anonymous No.12037862]

>>12037801
>Pigs can use visual information seen in a mirror to find food, and show evidence of self-recognition when presented with their reflection. In an experiment, 7 of the 8 pigs tested were able to find a bowl of food hidden behind a wall and revealed using a mirror. The eighth pig looked behind the mirror for the food.[56]

Your info is outdated friend

[Anonymous No.12037872]

>>12037689
It's true, pigs are super smart and a cool animal, but that doesn't change much. If it makes you feel any better a pig would eat a human, during communism they were used to dispose of prisoners.

[Anonymous No.12037880]

>>12037718
>>12037872
also a really good point

[Anonymous No.12037883]

>>12037872
>a pig would eat a human
This. Pigs do not deserve our sympathy or pity, and deserve to be killed and eaten. The fact that they're tasty as fuck is a bonus.

[Anonymous No.12037889]

go eat a dog
you dont hear any tears for octopi either, and they're objectively one of the smartest animals

[Anonymous No.12037890]

>>12037711
Ever hunted for wild boar? They don't go down without a fight. Ancient breeds of pigs were also far more aggressive than they are today; it took us centuries of selective breeding to end up with the relatively docile animals we have now, and even then they'll happily eat any human who passes out on their turf.

[Anonymous No.12037893]

>>12037872
Wouldn't this make them even less fit for consumption, given that you'd be eating human flesh by proxy? Would you willingly eat pork if you knew it came from a pig who'd eaten Old McDonald when he keeled over from a heart attack?

[Anonymous No.12037898]

Animals eat their intellectual peers. People getting soft and decadent doesn't change the fact that animals being consumed sooner or later is a part of life

[Anonymous No.12037901]

>>12037855
The best meat is honestly a tossup between Japanese Wagyu and Iberian pork. Ham is good, but fried pork-chops and steaks are even better.

[Anonymous No.12037903]

>>12037872
Dogs will eat humans too, guess its okay to eat dogs

[Anonymous No.12037911]

>>12037898
The issue that concerns me about eating meat is that we don't really respect where it comes from anymore. We don't give a shit about the farmer, we don't give a shit about the animal, all we care about is if it's in our supermarkets and on our plates. Ancient peoples showed far more respect for animals and agriculture in that regard.

[Anonymous No.12037912]

>>12037893
This isn't already happening- human traffickers own pig farms for such use.

[Anonymous No.12037914]

>>12037903
I'm not saying that you should eat pigs because of that, but it's a fact that they eat human meat given the opportunity. I support the consumption of all animals, as long as it doesn't lead to extinction and they're not raised in depressing conditions and you're not being cruel to them during their life. I'd eat a human as well if I had to

[Anonymous No.12037925]

>>12037903
This is the crux of the problem; any argument advocating eating pork can just as easily be subverted to promote consumption of dog-flesh. The only real difference between the two is dogs were originally bred as companions, and are far more empathetic to human feelings than pigs (although even this last point is debatable).

[Anonymous No.12037928]

>>12037912
But that's the problem; we don't know, or are at most uncertain. What if you knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the pork-chop you just bought came from a farm that suffered an unfortunate 'accident'?

[Anonymous No.12037983]

>>12037689
Pigs will kill their own and occasionally cannibalize.
Yes, outside of horribly enclosed pens too

[Anonymous No.12037984]

>>12037983
So do dogs. What, you thought that old chestnut was made up?

[Anonymous No.12037992]

>>12037911
This is a good post. I agree with you and hope you feel warm and fuzzy about it.

[Anonymous No.12037998]

>>12037925
You can't remove tradition from humanity. We might have sterilized it, but tradition still holds that dogs sleep at the foot of ypur bed and the resting place of a pig is beside some mashed potatoes and peas.

[Anonymous No.12038003]

We raised dogs as companion animals. We can use them as food but that's not their purpose.

We raised pigs as livestock. We can use them as pets but that's not their purpose.

I don't want people eating dogs just like i don't want people eating their own feces. That's all there is. Why can't people like the "pig=dog" anon get that?

What is there to argue?

[Anonymous No.12038004]

>>12037983
Are you talking about savaging? Its only been observed in domestic pigs

[Anonymous No.12038015]

>>12038003
There's nothing to argue. Good, decent people just keep quiet on 4chan while a superloud freak minority acts like eating horse and dog is okay, veganism is normal, and cheese from America (not American cheese) isn't perfectly tasty and wholesome.

[Anonymous No.12038018]

>>12038015
I see, thank you for saving me from a pointless argument. Will go do something more productive now.

[Anonymous No.12038026]

>>12037689
i feel you but just look at this picture until the cognitive dissonance fades away

[Anonymous No.12038053]

>>12038003
>What is there to argue?
It depends on what your point is.

Are you saying that it doesn't make sense to eat dogs because they are uneconomical to raise for meat and they also don't make very good meat? That's perfectly reasonable. Or are you saying that it doesn't make sense to eat dogs because it's somehow "wrong" on a moral level, while eating pigs is OK? That makes no sense at all.

[Anonymous No.12038058]

>>12037901
I wasn't even talking about the ham. The neck cut from Iberian pig fried in its own fat with garlic is the best land animal meat you can eat.

[Anonymous No.12038061]

>>12038015
>like eating horse and dog is okay
Why would it not be?

>veganism is normal
Veganism is a blight upon the planet.

>and cheese from America (not American cheese) isn't perfectly tasty and wholesome.
We do make some fantastic cheeses here, but the sad fact is that for every pound of, say, Cato Corner Hooligan there is a million pounds of generic industrial cheddar. Is it "wholesome"? Sure. It's real cheese and it won't make you sick. Does it taste good? Not really. Eating that in today's global market is sort of like being happy with an Atari emulator when PS4s exist. Most of the cheese we make is boring and bland.

[Anonymous No.12038062]

>>12038003
>purpose
As decided by whom? Us? If so, then what happens if people don't think that's their purpose anymore? Or are we enslaved to our own choices?

[Anonymous No.12038065]

>>12037893
I would.

[Anonymous No.12038067]

>>12038061
>blight
Look, I like my steaks just as much as you do, but one has to admit our hunger for meat is environmentally destructive and unsustainable. Our choices in the future are simple; we either do our homework and choose a suitable alternative, or Fate chooses one for us.

[Anonymous No.12038089]

>>12038067
>but one has to admit our hunger for meat is environmentally destructive and unsustainable

I agree that the modern western diet is 100% unustainable. The thing is that we don't have to go to a no-meat diet to solve that problem. A low-meat diet not only suffices, but actually works better. The type of farming which causes the least enviornmental harm is small-scale, local, farms which raise mostly crops but a small amount of meat as well. The ratio is important because that way you feed the animals with the leftovers from the crops which humans cannot eat, meanwhile the animal's waste is used for fertilizer. If you break that ratio and you have too much meat (as we do today), or if you nave not enough meat (as the vegans propose) you are forced to rely on outside sources for feed, fertilizer, etc. If you keep the ratio in favor of crops but still including a little meat you can avoid needing any sort of external industry (feed, fertilizer, etc.) to support food production. That's also better for your health since a small amount of meat in your diet fixes the various health concerns a vegan diet has.

[Anonymous No.12038133]

>>12037689
Pigs are really cool animals, but they're still just animals and thus okay to eat. That being said, it is also perfectly acceptable to eat a dog as well and I agree with you about people being way too sentimental to them.

[Anonymous No.12038135]

>>12037779
>Can't taste the intellect.

[Anonymous No.12038184]

>>12038062
>>Who decides their purpose
We do.

For example, for the vast majority of human history dogs were working animals. We bred them to help us hunt, to herd domestic animals, to protect our livestock from predators, as guards, to pull sleds, track, etc. The idea of a dog as a "pet" is a relatively modern invention. A few hundred years ago the only people who had pet dogs were royalty. Now, the overwhelming majority of dogs are bred to be pets and there are relatively few "working dogs" anymore.

Same with horses. They were once a source of power for transportation & plowing a farmer's field. Nowadays we mainly use them for recreational purposes.

[Anonymous No.12038275]

>WAAAAAAAH WUNT YOU THINK OF DEM POOR ANIMALS

>t. posted from my sweatshop-made iFone

[Anonymous No.12038305]

Shut up, Mohammed.

[Anonymous No.12038307]

>>12037689

It tastes good.

[Anonymous No.12038312]

>>12037689
unironically yes.

i never buy pork anymore and the only times i eat it is when someone serves it to me, because i don't want to make a fuss. i really miss bacon but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.12038324]

>>12037689

Fuck off Muhammad

[Anonymous No.12038328]

>>12038089
Don't forget, also, if we simply stop letting hoardes of hungry brown people into our societies that overall meat consumption would also decrease.

[Anonymous No.12038333]

>>12037689
If you eat them with respect it's ok.

[Anonymous No.12038334]

>>12037689
I'm going to keep eating pigs as long as they're delicious and socially acceptable

[Anonymous No.12038358]

Same

Eating a pig is basically the same as eating a preschooler

[Anonymous No.12038366]

>>12038003
Dogs were raised in Europe, Mesoamerica, Africa, and East Asia as food at various points

Stop getting emotional over dumb animals

[Anonymous No.12038371]

>>12037689
No, I doubled my intake to absorb their intelligence. Why would I eat stupid cows when I can eat brainfood?

[Anonymous No.12038405]

>>12038305
>>12038324
Muslims hate pigs and believe they are disgusting, they aren't even allowed to touch them.
But I love pigs and think they are misunderstood and I think they are cute
So in a way you guys share the opinions of muslims regarding pigs haha owned

[Anonymous No.12038416]

my dad is muslim and i never bothered eating anything with pork after i stopped worrying about punishment so whatever

[Anonymous No.12038421]

>>12037689
Intelligence doesn’t mean shit.
I eat humans everyday.

[Anonymous No.12038524]

>>12037689
>But if they shoot tons of wild hogs on the vegetables farms I support, I don't GAF.

Vegan
100% hypocrite

select two.

http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

[Anonymous No.12038667]

>>12037862
>The eighth pig looked behind the mirror for the food
holy fuck what a dumb fucking nigger LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.12038678]

>>12037689
I consider pigs cute, but i also consoder them tasty. so i will eat them,

[Anonymous No.12039041]

>>12037689
I'm kind of in the same boat as you are. Read up a lot about pigs and their intelligence, and just kinda felt like no longer eating them. I'll still eat pork if I'm served it or whatever, it's already dead by that point so whatever. I just feel like I can't in good conscience be a regular consumer of pork anymore.

Kinda helps that I was never really a big fan of the taste of pork though.

[Anonymous No.12039083]

>>12037689
Now I'm in the mood for ribs, dammit

[Anonymous No.12039108]

I can still eat them, but only if farmed ethically. Chickens don't bother me so much, but pig and cow i make sure is farmed local in an open farm. I also hunt most of my meat, as it's really the most ethical way to consume. I hate how disconnected people are with the animals. I know a lot that will have no problem stuffing factory farmed bacon, but would never shoot a wild grouse

[Anonymous No.12039111]

>>12037689
Selective eating is a huge privilege. In today's world, our over abundance has allowed pretentious people to radically defend food groups. You vegetarians and vegans don't know just how good you have it. In a survival situation, you'd be tearing apart whatever animal posses edible meat. You'll even fight for it. You vegans would fight to the death for a side of beef, in the right environment. Remember what you are before you promote yourself to some caste level.

[Anonymous No.12039133]

>>12039111
>"You vegetarians and vegans"
>op explicitly said he's neither
also maybe stop treating modern life like a survival situation

[Anonymous No.12039139]

>>12039111
I agree, it's a huge privilege and in a survival situation it's morally justified, but 99% of the civilized world has that privilege and isn't in a survival situation you fucking moron. "I might do it in this one very specific, narrow situation, so I'm justified doing it all the time" isn't a valid argument

[Anonymous No.12039148]

>>12037689
I got severe food poisoning for a whole day, shitting my bowls and puking my brains out for a whole day from eating supposedly old and/or undercooked pork
I'm still gonna eat those piggies
Get triggered you fucking hippie vegans

[Anonymous No.12039157]

>>12037689
Can't relate.
I eat pork over beef because the environmental savings are obscene.

If pigs are so smart, why don't they do anything to make themselves taste less delicious?

[Anonymous No.12039168]

>>12039139
All I'm saying is check your privilege. Don't think of yourself as elite. You're beholden on your protectors in order to continue your "life style."

[Anonymous No.12039173]

>>12038405
>Caring even one bit what filthy sand niggers think

[Anonymous No.12039181]

>>12039168
The vegetarians and vegans who tie it closely to their personality are usually huge tools and generally assholes, I agree. Doesn't mean they're on the wrong side of the fence morally or practically.

[Anonymous No.12039183]

>>12039168
This is how leftists talk
Vegans are all commies
And probably gay too

[Anonymous No.12039190]

>>12039183
>>12039173
hi /pol/, this is an actual good board so we don't want you ruining it, thanks.

[Anonymous No.12039192]

>>12039181
Then we concur. All the best.

[Anonymous No.12039199]

>>12039183
I don't think that at all. A preponderance of evidence does point towards that but to assume makes an ass of of you and me.

[Anonymous No.12039362]

>>12039139
Why would we gaf about "justifying" anything to superiour liberal faggots who hate us? Fuck you I'll eat what I want.

[Anonymous No.12039363]

>>12039190
Nah, /pol/ made this board great again and I'm glad to have them here. :)

[Anonymous No.12039827]

>>12038061
>video game analogy
We've come full circle

[Anonymous No.12039858]

>>12038089
vegans aren't eating any meat so fat asses like you can eat more of it. quit bitching and acting like you're better than them you mong

[Anonymous No.12040032]

The immorality in eating meat to me generally comes from how the animals are treated, not the fact that they're slaughtered and consumed. It's just unfortunate that the extreme demand for meat at extremely low prices is largely what's responsible for the awful treatment of animals. I just avoid buying the dirt cheap stuff, since that's the worst offender.

[Anonymous No.12040079]

>>12040032
Agreed, animals need feminism and transrights

[Anonymous No.12040096]

>>12037722
Filthy goddamn piggers

[Anonymous No.12040098]

>>12037893
Yes, because then I'd have both a super smart pig's spirit energy, and also a that of a hard working all American farmer as well.

[Anonymous No.12040101]

[Anonymous No.12040105]

>>12037689
I've worked with confined pigs.

They're stupid as fuck, don't live much of a life. beyond being loaded/unloaded on a truck to go to slaughter, I don't think they ever even walk..

Eat the one's that are from hog barns, not one's from pens/free range.

[Anonymous No.12041407]

>>12037689
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[Anonymous No.12041779]

>>12040105
I mean, they have the potential to be smart... if you raised humans from birth in 4x4 cages and taught them nothing, those humans would be pretty stupid too

[Anonymous No.12042035]

>>12039363
T. /pol/

[Anonymous No.12042054]

>>12041779
Free range humans are plenty retarded as is, no confinement necessary.

[Anonymous No.12043525]

>>12037689
>Meanwhile a dog fails the mirror test, commits incest readily, will eat its own shit, and is less intelligent than pigs, but people cry when they are eaten for dinner
>Spend thousands of years evolving with the ancestor of the domestic dog
>Grow together through the ages as companions
>Be surprised when Human's get pissy when they see a dog get hurt

[Anonymous No.12043552]

>>12037901
This dude knows what's up

[Anonymous No.12043561]

>>12037689
I worked on a pig farm, and nothing will make you hate pigs more than that.

Fuck them. Eat the fuckers whenever you can. Foul fucking creatures, no wonder they were forbidden from being consumed in several religions.

[Anonymous No.12043565]

>>12038003
These are arbitrary distinctions. Just because an animal was considered a pet doesn't mean it has to be that way. It's just a cultural holdover. So yeah, it makes sense from a repulsion standpoint, but it's meaningless.

[Anonymous No.12043581]

I never understood the argument that is ok to eat dumb animals, but not smart ones, that seems kinda ableist.

[Anonymous No.12043591]

>>12037689
Pigs are tasty and dogs aren't.
It's never been about intelligence it's always been about food.

[Anonymous No.12043594]

>>12037689
I'd eat dog if it weren't frowned upon. The only animals I absolutely wouldn't eat are endangered species.

[Anonymous No.12043610]

>>12037689
I can't justify anything I do in my life but that doesn't stop me from doing it anyway. Man the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.12043732]

disasociation is a hell of a drug OP, thats pretty much the point of folks eating/trying everything. see a bug? taste yucky but all we got, can we make it crispy? fuck yeah its good.
we have small scrawny animal not realy good at being taisty food but we got small but fat as fuck animal thats great at being taisty food lets have that.
maybe in another time line wed have all these pet pigs and be offended at the thought of eating piggy boys while we dine on some taisty dog bacon but eh, here we are.

[Anonymous No.12043770]

>>12037689
so your metric going eating something is intelligence?

[Anonymous No.12044019]

>>12043770
yeah, I wouldn't eat dolphins or apes

[Anonymous No.12044198]

>>12037689
If pigs were smart they wouldn't make themselves so tasty. Think about it

[Anonymous No.12044208]

>>12037689
Their intelligence (and suffering) only adds to the flavor.

[Anonymous No.12044271]

>>12037689
>Anyone else quit eating pigs
Fuck no, I've switched over to eating more pork because beef just isn't as tasty. Besides, pork costs half as much here.

>Meanwhile a dog commits incest readily
I wouldn't call it incest; I'm her owner not her father. Besides, we both enjoy it so why not?

[Anonymous No.12044278]

>>12037689
our 4 mouth puppy that doesn't even know how to hike his leg to take a piss but passes he mirror test

[Anonymous No.12044282]

>>12044278
If that's true you should contact a university quick, becuase you're dog would be the first dof ever to pass the morror test

[Anonymous No.12044288]

>>12037890
if they're so intelligent why did they lethemselves be intelligently bred?

[Anonymous No.12044307]

>>12037689
dogs were selectively bred to be companion animals, pigs were selectively bred to be the most delicious, easy to kill meat. the argument is similar to hurting a friend vs. hurting a stranger.

that said i'd eat any meat, including human meat if i had the assurance that it wouldn't give me AIDS or mad cow disease. fuck dogs, fuck pigs, fuck people, fuck Joffrey, fuck The Queen.

[Anonymous No.12045980]

>>12038324
this