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Would you rather be on a vegan diet for the rest of your life or go on an all-meat diet for the rest of your life?

>> No.11983653

Vegan if for no reason other than you are going to get a lot more variety in your diet. I love steak and fish and chicken but after a while too much of a good thing applies and I can see myself getting sick of it.

>> No.11983668

>>11983648
Vegan, hands down. I love meat, but you're gunna have much, much more variety with a vegan diet. Also it'd be healthier.

>> No.11983682

>>11983668
>unhealthy
actually it's pretty healthy as long as you include organ meats. you'll have less than "healthy" magnesium, but carnivores typically have less magnesium anyways

>> No.11983711

>>11983682
I didn't say the meat diet would be unhealthy, just that a vegan one would be more healthy.

>> No.11983772

>>11983711
more healthy if you're an equatorial race or don't wanna be fertile

>> No.11983848

>>11983648
Gotta go with meat.
I went vegan for a year.
Wouldn't do that again.
Plus I like looking and feeling healthy.

>> No.11983997
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11983997

>vegan
>healthy
pick one
>mfw eating psychotic pseudospiritual suicide cultist vegans for breakfast

justmeat.co

>> No.11984011

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/diagnosis-diet/201709/the-vegan-brain

"Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin)
Without this essential vitamin, the body cannot synthesize DNA, RNA, red blood cells, or myelin (the substance that wraps around and insulates our brain circuitry). Not surprisingly, B12 deficiency causes a whole host of serious psychiatric problems, including depression, psychosis, memory problems, mania, and changes in behavior or personality.

Vegan diets contain virtually no vitamin B12, and severe, prolonged B12 deficiency is fatal. Most vegans and vegetarians are aware of this danger and either take supplements or consume fortified yeast (unfortified yeast doesn’t naturally contain any vitamin B12). Unfortunately, deficiency is still far more common than it should be, with some studies finding that as many as 86% of adults (regardless of chosen diet) are deficient. Researchers report wide ranges of values, but overall, vegetarians tend to have lower B12 levels than omnivores, and vegans on average tend to have the lowest B12 levels."

>> No.11984106

>>11983648
Vegan, but realistically either option is absolutely shitty for me. Vegan will give me more variety, but I don't think I'd ever enjoy food as much.

I'll just have to hope they perfect synthetic meat sooner than I'm expecting they will.

>> No.11984113

>>11983648
All-meat.

>> No.11984130
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>>11983997
>ywn have to curl up inside a horse carcass for warmth with a cute girl and maybe your penis slips, by accident, into her vagoo and gets stuck there as the horseblood dries overnight

>> No.11984567

>>11983682
Tell that to Shawn Baker's bloodtest

>> No.11984575
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>>11984011
>source: psychologytoday
ayylmao
>vegan diets tend to be deficient in three nutrients, whereas average omnivores tend, unfortunately, to be deficient in seven.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17299475

>> No.11984600

>>11984011
On the other hand there's vitamin C, which you can't obtain from meat and causes scurvy among other things if you don't get enough. I think since this is a hypothetical it's safe to assume everyone would be taking supplements to help with the radical imbalances of either diet.

>> No.11984604

>>11984575
European Journal of Clinical Nutrition
came in to thank someone citing credible sources
bueno

>> No.11984635

>>11984575
I'm confused by your post as the source you listed leads to a study stating that vegans who don't supplement calcium in their diets have a higher risk of fractures.

>> No.11984649

>>11984575
Hey, somebody else who uses ncbi. It's on my quick start menu. I use it all the time.

>> No.11984706

>>11984635
Oops wrong link, try:
Results from the German Vegan Study. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 57(August 2003):947.
vs
USDA. Food and Nutrient Intakes by Individuals in the United States, by Region, 1994-96.

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>>11983648
That's easy all meat.
Vegan is a fate worse than death, it's a living death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rieOahGXUU

>> No.11985421

>>11984567
Tell all the vegans who keep quitting 'the healthiest most complete diet known to man'

I can't figure out why vegans didn't tell Tim Sheiff how healthy veganism is? Why did they let him quit and not tell him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9Gcnicc6Y

>> No.11985423

>>11984011
m8 I'm not even vegan but you don't have to be a genius to know meat is poor in water soluble minerals

>> No.11985548

>>11983648
Vegan and then jist eat tofurkey lmao checkmate

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>>11985548

>> No.11986023

>>11983648
vegan I think. there just isn't that much diversity in meat. also I like to be able to shit

>> No.11986027

>>11983648
All meat

>> No.11986095
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>another vegan thread

>> No.11986965
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>>11985413
https://youtu.be/gk3YvBzmBys

>> No.11986976

>>11983648
I'm not sure which one is healthier, but i know that none of them is morally superior.

I love meat but if had to choose i would probably go vegan, it seems a little safer.

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>>11986965
>Clinging to my starvation cult

>> No.11987216

>>11984600
You can't obtain Vitamin C from Meat?

Then why did Eskimos not all have Scurvy?

>> No.11987227

>>11983648
Vegan
>can't eat meat, fish, dairy, eggs
>can eat grains, fruits, vegetables, everything except the above
All-meat
>can't eat anything other than meat, fish, dairy, eggs
>no pasta
>no pizza
>no sandwiches
>can't even make grilled potatoes or carrots to go with steak
I'd rather go vegan simply because I'll be able to eat more stuff. There are also far more foods with no animal proteins than there are with ONLY animal proteins.

>> No.11987251

>>11987227
Plus all meat diet equals anus cancer.

>> No.11987257

>>11987251
I don't give a flying fuck about my health as long as the food taste good. My liver will likely fail before I develop cancer anyway.

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>>11987251
Exactly. Thats why all the Lions died.
RIP furry lions.

>> No.11987275

>>11987257
You will be laying in hospital with your little bald head shitting your insides in to a plastic bag?

>> No.11987281

>>11987275
No, I will die of liver failure at home after having lived a good life.

>> No.11987295

>>11987281
No your family will put you in palliative care cause fuck looking after cancer boy.

>> No.11987310

>>11987295
Who said anything about palliative care? I'd be dead before I develop cancer anyhow.

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>>11987275
>Vegan tryhard.

>> No.11987330

>>11987310
It will be slow anon and nasty.

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11987331

>>ITS THE MEAT EATERS WHO ARE UNHEALTHY!!

>> No.11987334

>>11987325
Not vege you dumb fuck.

>> No.11987338
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>>11987330
Like vegan deterioration?

>> No.11987345

>>11987338
Stop recycling anorexia memes

>> No.11987347
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>>11987334
I know. Nobody's vegan/
>insert vegan propaganda here..

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>>11987345
>The SkinnyRawVegan didn't do veganism right!

>> No.11987356

all meat with much fasting

>> No.11987365

>>11987347
Your paranoid anon,I don't give a fuck what you eat.

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>>11987365
I don't care what particular type of vegan nutjob you are, they are all nuts.

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>>11987377

>> No.11987572

>>11983648
Do i only get gravy to drink?

this makes or breaks it

>> No.11987593

>>11987377
Bovine spongiform encephalopathy
I think you are in the early stages.

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11987609

I don't know much but nutritional value for food but about 2 years ago i ate steak for about 50 days in a row (I work for a slaughterhouse in the parking department so I get cheap or sometimes free meet)

I felt really good after the first week or two I don't know what it was but I just felt generally better

>> No.11987985

>>11983648
Going to go on the basis of this now becomes a healthy diet that I can sustain myself on, in which case I think I'd go for meat because it'd be metal even though vegan would give more variety of things to snack on. It would be sick to horrify my friends by eating like a meals worth of only flesh in one sitting.

>> No.11988928

I'd go all meat. It'd be healthier.

>> No.11988936

>>11983648
all-meat but no steaks. Steaks are the worst and least creative way to handle meat desu

>> No.11988940

>>11983648
Neither? Seriously, we're omnivores, we would be lacking in essential everything if we went one way or the other.

>> No.11989363

>>11983648
Meat, because there are quite a few instances of human societies living entirely on it and pretty much none of vegan ones for good reason, not even the Jains.

>> No.11989368

Vegan. With meat you miss so many dishes.

>> No.11989402

>>11984600
>>11987216
>On the other hand there's vitamin C, which you can't obtain from meat
This is wrong. Meat does contain it but considerably less than many vegetables. And cooking it reduces it sharply. But it isn't that difficult for a person who eats literally nothing but meat, and alot of it raw or lightly cooked, to hit his daily recommended levels of vitamin C.

Read up on Vilhjalmur Stefansson, an arctic explorer who did experiments on Inuit diet.

>> No.11989416

>>11983648
I'd rather go vegan for my anus' sake.

>> No.11989422

>>11983648
vegan
only meat doesn't have enough variety esp considering you prob won't be using spices/herbs since those aren't meat

>> No.11989429

Vegan. You'd probably get scurvy or some other ancient, retarded disease by eating nothing but meat.

>> No.11989447

>>11989422
Have you ever had a vegetable without herbs or spices either?
Meat is the most sustaining and filling meal, is more calorie dense and when when coupled with organ meats it has more essential vitamins then a sole plant based diet

>> No.11989457

>>11989429
This, you'd definitely get scurvy and relatively rapidly as evidenced by 18th and 19th century sailors fed nothing but salt beef and hardtack.

>> No.11989469

>>11989457
Why do you think that is the case? What's stopping a modern meat-eater from understanding the causes of scurvy and choosing to eat those foods which will prevent them from developing it?

Your point is just as absurd as claiming the vegan diet is a poor choice because of B12 deficiency. Both of them are problems which can be surmounted with modern knowledge.

>> No.11989498

>>11983648
prolly all meat

>> No.11989501

>>11989469
>What's stopping a modern meat-eater from understanding the causes of scurvy and choosing to eat those foods which will prevent them from developing it?
Nothing, but that's not the OP's point of discussion. It's a hypothetical all or nothing.

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>>11989457
>>11989429
Dumbshits
>>11989402

>> No.11989546

>>11989501
>It's a hypothetical all or nothing.
do you not understand that it is possible to eat an all-meat diet without scurvy, and an all-veggie diet without B12 deficiency, it just takes more effort?

>> No.11989553

>>11989546
You understand that these threads wouldn't exist if both sides debated out of good faith and didn't attack strawmen?

>> No.11989785

>>11989553
These threads wouldn't exist if people just eat whatever the fuck they want without bothering other people.

>> No.11989808

>>11984011
Just wanted to say that vitamin b 12 is actually produced in the gut but can't be absorbed by the body. The usual way animals get their B12 is by eating faeces but since they're all locked up in cages these days they end up being deficienct too and just end up being fed B12 supplements. (90% of all b12 supplements are fed to livestock)

>> No.11989811

>>11987227
This

>> No.11989819

>>11989553
>You understand that these threads wouldn't exist if both sides debated out of good faith and didn't attack strawmen?

I do, yes. Though I'm confused why you directed that question to me. I'm not even sure how your post was relevant to mine. Are you accusing me of arguing with bad faith or posting strawmen?

>> No.11989897

>>11989546
Hypothetical mate. Pick up a dictionary if need be.

>> No.11990093

>>11989785
OP here, I just wanted to see peoples' reasoning. Didn't realize it'd devolve so quickly.

>> No.11990136

>>11990093
Your question may be honest and innocent, but the rest of the world sure isn't.

>> No.11990138

>>11983648
All meat easy.

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>>11989808
>>11989808
>The usual way animals get their B12 is by eating faeces
source?

>> No.11991153

https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-04/fyi-what-would-happen-if-i-ate-nothing-meat

>> No.11991186

>>11983648
atherosclerosis

>> No.11991186,1 [INTERNAL] 

I wouldn't follow what Vegan Deterioration says on YouTube necessarily. Something's weird about this woman. I found out she's an ex-vegan who basically roasts youtubers based on their appearance lol but the icing on the cake is that this woman is also secretly a foot slave... I have reason to believe shes kind of looking for attention.