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>"WHAT? You put CREAM in your carbonara? You absolute idiot, the Italians clearly said we weren’t allowed to do that!"A carbonara with cream is infinitely more superior than one without. Yet still, the average yuro starts seething at the thought of cream in carbonara because it is not "authentic Italian" (as if that is an argument). Why is that? Are yuros obsessed with the illusion that their "genuine" food is superior to other food? Or are they simply retarded? Or maybe their outdated dishes is all the yuros have left and now they throw a tantrum at anyone who dares point out that their food is mediocre at best.
>>11942460I think it's better without cream. I accept that you do not. Now calm down, you fucking ape. The aversion to it is a result of the general aversion to the general vulgarity of Americans and American "cuisine"
>>11942460You seem to care just as much anon. Most of us don't give a shit. Eat what you want to eat, don't make such a fuss about it, jesus.
>>11942460>what, you put greentext in your bait?
>>11942460>Any restaurant "carbonara">most likely pasta with a shitty bechamel and if you're unlucky, ham instead of bacon
>>11942460calm down, it's only pasta
>>11942460>carbonara>doesnt have a poached egg on it
>>11942460I don't give a fuck if it's authentic or not but cream just dilutes the flavor.
Just like Alton Brown said, if you want great buffalo wings don't eat it in buffalo. People who cook dishes from their own region never try to improve by going outside the box.
if you put cream in carbonara, it's no longer carbonara.
>>11942539That sounds like utter bullshit
>>11942539Fuck Alton Brown, Buffalo is the best place to get wings. End of story.
>>11942771Cumming in your mom did not stop her from being your mom.
Mate you can put cream in your pasta dish if you want but it's not a carbonara.
>>11942822no. that's how she became my mom, obviously. before that she wasn't
It's bacon spaghetti, stop pretending it's high class.
>>11942539fuck alton brown, dumbass has never been a cook or a chef or anything. all he did was follow instructions from the teleprompter that his writing team wrote.
>>11942460>Italians>YurosFuck you. We are just as annoyed with their constant BS as you guys.
You think we're fucking with eggs on the line? I don't make carbonara rn but I can see us using a morney with pancetta. That's probably what you're used to. Authentic carbonara is home made.
>>11942771Yea seriously once you start adding other shit to a specific dish it's no longer that dish anymore. Spaghetti and meat balls or pie, or pizza, etc, can have tons of variations but its a broad term. Carbonara is what it is, because of the ingrediants used and methods to cook.
>>11942460A carbonara with egg is genuine food. A carbonara with cream is genuine food too, but it's not a carbonara.I used to eat carbonara regularly when I lived in Italy, it's one of my favourite pastas. Then I moved to a different country, tried a carbonara here and found that I just can't stomach it. It's not just about how bland cream is, people seem to show a preference towards using heavy or double cream and that just makes the dish heavy and unpleasant.To make matters worse some places add mushrooms, garlic, onions, sub the pancetta for ham, add chicken, and barely add any parmesan or pecorino. At this point why would you even bother to call it carbonara? Carbonara isn't just an umbrella term for white sauce pasta.
I'd also like to point out that the carbonara in OP's post is authentic.
>>11942468>>11942487Samefag and namefag, kill it with fire
>>11943341Adding a minor ingredient to a dish doesn't change the name of the dish. Putting paprika in your spaghetti doesn't make it not spaghetti. You don't have to appease people by calling it "Spaghetti with Paprika" or something.
>>11942460you are essentially talking about a vocal minority of retard purists. do what you want, call it what you want but no one in italy will tell you it's carbonara because quite simply it is not but that doesn't mean you cooked bad food.
>>11942460it's not that cream in carbonara is bad, it's that it is a crutch. If someone puts cream in their carbonara their cooking skill is suspect
>>11942460Egg + pecorino + pastawater = cream
>>11943367i'm inclined to agree with >>11943341 >>11942498 >>11942826 >>11942860afaik, carbonara is a pasta dish sauced with egg, some kind of hard cheese, some kind of fatty pork, and pepper. Maybe you can add mushrooms or chicken and pass it as carbonara but I think adding cream fundamentally changes the sauce into a besciamella or mornay and so its no longer a carbonara>ultimately >>11942468 this though
>>11943367It depends on the dish. If you add paprika to spaghetti al ragù, it's still spaghetti al ragù. If you add paprika to spaghetti alla bolognese, that's not part of the recipe - bolognese ragù is a specific type of meat sauce, so if you make changes to it you're no longer making bolognese sauce. With recipes that call for specific ingredients adding, swapping and removing ingredients unequivocally means that you're no longer making the same dish.
>>11942460cream, peas, ham and kraft cheese
>>11942460>Noodle niggers actually argue about this.
>>11942460If you wanted alfredo, just make alfredo.
>>11942460I'll one up your salt.In Asian countries, they call pasta with canned mushroom sauce carbonara.
>>11942481came here to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-PKO2FrdPYThis is OP by the way.
>>11944945why did you find that?
>>11944945majority of /ck/ is female and a lot of them are chubby little south east asians so that would make sense
>>11942460>italianjust noit was "invented" by americans in france during wwII
Carbonara for the lazy fucks out there:https://xuea.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/never-fret-about-carbonara-again/Use guanciale, pancetta, or bacon. Wa la ya filthy animals
>>11943367Spaghetti is a name of a noodle, not a dish. Also, spices can make or break a certain dish. Adding paprika to Carbonara would change not only the taste, but over all feel and even look.
>>11945020Are you to retarded to even google it's origins? It's a Roman dish. As in Rome Italy, been around ever since semolina noodles were a thing in Italy.
>>11942460"authenticity" is all they have to cling to since american culture has eclipsed all but few cultures across the world. euros wear our clothes. they eat our food. they watch our movies. they listen to our music. they read our literature, view our art.
>>11945062>sous vide carbonara you got to be fucking kidding
god italians are such faggots
>>11945134Just sous vide that cream/eggs so retards don’t over cook the eggs in the pan.Personally even though I have an SV, I prefer the pan method. Much quicker
I hate italians and MUH TRADITIONfags, but creamless carbonara is better by miles.
Once you use cream, it is simply no longer a carbonara. You can do whatever you want to your pasta dishes, but don't them things they are not. You can enjoy your creamy pasta, to each their own. But it's not a carbonara if it uses cream.
>>11945199But don't call them*
>>11942460>bacon>eggs>cheese>noodles>add creamadd some butter aswell while you're at it
>>11942460what happened to /ck/? it was kind of boring but it was comfyyou don't see /an/ doing this kind of thing (outside of the pitbull threads at least)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcNrFW6tuSgsuck it down you stupid euro cucks
>>11945939before I watch this let me guess what he's going to add:・stock pot・olive oiledit: yup I was right
>>11945939>"there's no real recipe">My Italian mother
>>11945939>i had an Italian mother so putting oil in water must be a good thing to do
>>11944945what the fuck this is absolutely horrifying. why would you ever do this? an actual carbonara is so quick and easy to make. Cheaper with less ingredients too.
>>11945062is there anything more cucked than unironically using a sous vide technique?
>>11944997>majority of /ck/ is female
>>11946661using a wojak
>>11946686ok, now THIS is epic.
>>11945974Maybe that or you know being a three star Michelin chef
>>11942460I'm a euro and I prefer creambonara, it has a better flavour and texture in my opinion, however I wouldn't impose it on other people.
how bout some vegan carbonarahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqsjOdvDQxs
>>11944945>women can cook
>>11946698ill give you some cream-boner-a
>>11942460>italian dish>all yurosSeething american detected
>go to italy>there's no alfredo sauce in fettuccine alfredo in italyAbsolute meme
>>11942460I add peas to mine, it's how my dad makes it and if i don't add them it feels like something is missing
>>11947611Your dad is gone. Just let go and move on. Peas don’t belong in carbonara.
>>11942460moms carbonara is way better than any restaurant carbonara ive had
>>11947611he probably had some with capers in it and didn't know what they where so when he made it at home he just put peas in there cause it looked right
>>11947775Nah he likes capers, so I doubt that is the case, I'll see him tomorrow so I'll ask him
>>11942460Arguing about THE recipe for something like that is retarded in itself. there are as many recipes as there were households. Some will have used cream, some won't. Andthat will be the case today as well.
Italians are a scientific experiment to determine if the world's most insufferable group of people can be created just off of a love of mediocre food.>Slavish devotion to their shitty grandmas who probably just stewed everything for six days>'Respect' for ingredients that they stole from literally every other place around the world that uses them better>Insistence on preserving their 'culture' which basically consists of being the roman's inbred sister-fucking cousinsfuck italy and fuck you for supporting italy