/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11854204]

Why do Americans support tipping culture so much? I just watched a video where a American tipped 100% on $400 bill. $400 just for the waitress to bring you food and drink lol????

[Anonymous No.11854207]

>>11854204
Watch a American say “only niggers don’t tip” yeah not giving someone hundreds of dollars for just bringing your food is nigger behavior...

[Anonymous No.11854212]

>>11854204
Nice trips, though.

[Anonymous No.11854216]

>>11854204

[Anonymous No.11854227]

americans are just retarded

[Anonymous No.11854228]

>>11854204
In most states wait staff are legally allowed to be paid less than minimum wage because they are expected to make tips. People treat it as an service rating, big tips mean you did a good job, small tips mean you did bad. It's also an easy way to show off. Lastly, if it's a place you go to consistently, you'll get even better service if you're known as a good tipper.
The people tipping 100 or even 50% are show offs and virtue signalers. I usually tip 10-17% and don't tip at all for really shitty service.

[Anonymous No.11854241]

>>11854204
i dont get it either and i'm american
on one hand we will pay a regular wage for basically every other kind of job
and we say "good waiters get good tips"
but the truth is most people are too cheap to even tip good service.
and then when servers complain they say "lol get a better job"
but these people still eat out every week and expect to see waiters at their tables.

the biggest irony is that if you take tipping away and give them a regular hourly wage, i guarantee most waiters would complain about missing tips.

[Anonymous No.11854246]

Americans really like to pay. It's a form of personal emotional expression for them.

[Anonymous No.11854253]

>>11854204
Because your food actually fucking gets to you quickly, you actually get nice service, and a good waitress can make a hundred in a night.

[Anonymous No.11854383]

get tipped for doing your job ? i dont adopt that but on the other hand if service is good not cunts then i tip for the pleasant experience

[Anonymous No.11854444]

>>11854228
> In most states wait staff are legally allowed to be paid less than minimum wage because they are expected to make tips.

Employers are also forced to make sure they're paid minimum wage if tips don't make it up, which honestly is all their labour is worth. Tipping is a carry over from the great depression that should have been discarded of long ago. It won't, because employers and attractive servers benefit greatly from it. An attractive blonde waitress can make an insane amount of money for a job where she just stands around gossiping for 40% of the time, and the onky "stressful" part is putting up with the occasional rude customer.

[Anonymous No.11854460]

>>11854204

It's a way for Americans to flaunt their goodwill and self-righteousness in public. In doing so their actions lose any moral sense of being done for the sake of goodness though and nothing more than the exegetic action of doing without a esoteric grounding. It is revolting really - it persists however because to challenge it will insult everyone involved in the transaction despite those no understanding how inherently harmful it is to society in general.

[Anonymous No.11854465]

>>11854204
Because servers are cunts who act like they have genuine talent despite doing a job for college dropouts and high school girls.

[Anonymous No.11854487]

>>11854460
Really good answer, actually

[Anonymous No.11854496]

>>11854227
>to ensure promptness
>tipping afterwars to ensure swift and accurate product delivery beforehand
Burgers invented time machine.

[Anonymous No.11854563]

>>11854227
I just don’t tip if they annoy me in anyway. Everyone treats me like I’m Satan when I tell them this

[Anonymous No.11854599]

>>11854228
>better service
they take order, serve drinks, bring food (unless there is a food runner) refill drinks, bring bill when it's convenient to them.
it's hard to believe they could be bad at those, I've never seen outstanding service, so much so that it should deserve a TIP
but in america I live, so I tip almost every time I sat down at a restaurant
>>11854444
epic quads checked
also no server ever went to the employer and said I didn't make minimum wage this week

[Anonymous No.11854612]

>>11854227
please tell me this is fake, please dear god let this be fake.

>does job you're paid to do
HERE'S $50 TIP MY GOOD SIR!

>Gets $10 haircut
MAY I TIP YOU $30?!

[Anonymous No.11854620]

>>11854204
I support it for two reasons:

1) I don't have aspergers so I have no problem understanding traditions even when they make no logical sense.

2) Tipping does make logical sense because it saves everyone money. Even when done 100% according to the law, tips are only taxed once whereas wages are tipped twice. Therefore everybody wins, including the customer, when people are tipped as opposed to paid standard wages.

[Anonymous No.11854628]

>>11854599
ausfag here. i can confirm it absolutely does make a difference, the service here is shite compared to australia and the US.

however there are asian countries without tipping that have great service too, so it only makes a difference in the west.

[Anonymous No.11854631]

>>11854620
>cuck your citizen into tipping by discount them taxes instead of double taxes
>they are very happy to pay both the server and the country for something they didn't do
dog bless

[Anonymous No.11854686]

>>11854628
are you saying australia service sucks because you don't tip?
If I didn't live in such a small townie area I would give up on tipping all together

[Anonymous No.11855046]

>>11854612
It's obviously fake, yeah. 15-20% tip is the standard everywhere. Maybe up to 25% if it was cheap and that's an extra dollar or something.

[Anonymous No.11855069]

>>11854227
Wrong. Here is actuall amounts for average americans:

Hotel staff: Porter - $5/bag, max tip of $20
Room Service - 10-15%
Towel Delivery - None
Doorman - $5
Concierge - Depends on request.
Housekeeping - $10-20/day

Restaurants: 15-20% of bill

Traveling
Airport: $10 total
Taxis - 8-12% of fare
Airport shuttle: $5
Limo Drivers: same as taxis

Weddings: No tips because everything is already marked up 100%.

Salon/Spa: 10-20% across board, except pet groomers who get no tips

Funerals: No tips

[Anonymous No.11855089]

>>11854241
Do you at least save much money by buying/cooking yourself from scratch?

[Anonymous No.11855095]

we all have so much money in america, we literally have to give it away

[Anonymous No.11855132]

>>11854686
He's saying it, but he's wrong. People who don't do their jobs adequately end up unemployed, like in all fields of work.

[Anonymous No.11855159]

I was forced to eat at a fancyish restaurant with coworkers for a birthday, and thanks to a mess up with the workers not communicating with eachother it appeared that we were like 5 dollars off the tip. The dude came up to us and seemed upset and asked "is there a problem did we do something wrong?" I was very shocked about this.

[Anonymous No.11855167]

>>11855159
If the restaurant is fancy, $5 one way or the other isn't going to make a difference on the overall tip of a group meal.

[Anonymous No.11855307]

The only proper way to tip is BEFORE the meal. Cosa Nostra style

[Anonymous No.11855335]

>>11855069
I was lucky to get $5 as a housekeeper. And the people who didn't tip at all tend to leave the rooms the worst

Fuck housekeeping

[Anonymous No.11855490]

>>11855132
I didn't know australians had a no tipping thing going on.
will there ever be a day in america that we do away with tipping? I hope so. If I was to ever open a restaurant, I would not allow tipping

[Anonymous No.11856285]

>>11855069
You tip housekeeping?

[Anonymous No.11856318]

>>11854228
>In most states wait staff are legally allowed to be paid less than minimum wage

No they are not. It's listed as less but the employer has to make up the wages up to minimum wage if the tips don't add up.

[Anonymous No.11856389]

>>11854227
>Tip jar at fast food counters
>$20

This is a joke right?

[Anonymous No.11856411]

>>11854204
because it makes me temporarily feel better about myself to see someone happy they got tipped well

[Anonymous No.11856420]

I try to stop tipping but I don't want spit in my food. In America they pay some waitress staff $2-4 an hour and that's bullshit. It should be illegal.

[Anonymous No.11856431]

>>11854204
Because I don't want spit in my food.
But I will always do 10% because fuck you I am also in minimum wage.

t. Californian

[Anonymous No.11856484]

>>11854204
There are two types of people, those that think tipping makes them a good person and is generous or some shit, and those who think tipping is dumb but succumb to the social pressure

[Anonymous No.11856498]

>>11855069
>Housekeeping - $10-20/day
do people really tip housekeepers at hotels? I have literally never done this and did not know it was common

[Anonymous No.11856508]

>>11854227
No, but this infograph made by a greedy service industry worker sure as hell is. No one tips in those amount unless they have a shit ton of money.

[Anonymous No.11856512]

>>11856508
>but this infograph made by a greedy service industry worker sure as hell is
There is no fucking way the person who made that is serious. It has to be a joke

[Anonymous No.11856537]

>>11855069
So you're saying if I pay ~$200 a night for a hotel
I am also obliged to add an extra $60-100 bill per day to pay the staff of the hotel?
What happens to the $200?

[Anonymous No.11856560]

If I'm at a place I've been to regularly, I always tip well. You get what you pay for in terms of service, even if it's just some shitty delivery place that knows you and knows you'll tip well.

Its also just a respect thing, I've worked shitty jobs before and the people making your food work hard. Its not a fun job or an easy job and when you're practically living off tips, an extra $20 is a big difference

[Anonymous No.11856573]

>>11854228
I never tip because I'm already bleeding money going to a restraunt or hotel

[Anonymous No.11856580]

>>11856560
Tip the chef not the waiter dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.11856654]

>>11854227

Is this from Onion or something?

>$20 tip when you buy a $5 burger
>tip the DJ $500
>tip the priest at a fucking funeral

Is this actually a parody or something because it seems baffling to me that somebody's worldview includes shit like that

[Anonymous No.11856670]

I never tip because I enjoy boogers in my food.

[Anonymous No.11856681]

>>11856537
>What happens to the $200?

The jew who owns the hotel gets it.

[Anonymous No.11856702]

>>11855089
yeah for sure, i try to cook dinner 3-4 times a week and i almost always eat breakfast and lunch at home too.
i was a waiter for about a year and i found it good experience to see it from that side (no i would never want to do it again).
i found it funny that when i thought i wasnt giving that great of service i got tipped the highest and when i gave great service i got tipped the lowest.
the lesson is you cant predict how anyone is going to tip you regardless of service, which is why i think its a retarded system.

[Anonymous No.11856713]

>>11854204
>Why
because we’re so prosperous
you mad?

[Anonymous No.11856804]

>>11856654
there is no fucking way that chart is serious

[Anonymous No.11856848]

>>11854207
>t. nigger

[Anonymous No.11856898]

>>11854204
How do I tip if I never carry cash on hand

[Anonymous No.11857010]

>>11854207
Nobody expects a 100% tip. 15% is generally agreed on and 20% is what a lot of food workers ask for.
Laws allow restaurants to not pay waiters minimum wage, since tips supplement. On one hand, it can lead to a system of cheap labor, on the other hand, working in the higher end of the food industry leads to a very profitable job, if you can get it.

[Anonymous No.11857040]

>>11857010
whats with people constantly pushing the amount people are expected to tip? 15% used to be standard, now a lot of people are trying to say 20 is the minimum. Seems like every year the number people tell you is socially expected increases

[Anonymous No.11857075]

>>11854246
This, our Jewish overlords have instilled in us to enjoy giving our money away

[Anonymous No.11857165]

>>11854460
Whatever helps you sleep at night Starbucks.

[Anonymous No.11857175]

>>11856654
The officiating person at a funeral or wedding isn't always a full-time clergyman and may be paid for their services. Whoever hires them probably should tip if they do a good job, yes.

[Anonymous No.11857210]

>>11857175
I have never put on a funeral but this is the first time I have ever heard it suggested that tips are involved with a funeral

[Anonymous No.11857379]

>>11854204
Because Americans are friendly by nature, and not tipping is perceived as mean-spirited. Whenever I go out to eat with my parents, they try to guilt trip me for not tipping.

[Anonymous No.11857392]

>>11857379
blacks don't tip. don't be black.

[Anonymous No.11857400]

>>11857175
>be American
>get shot and die
>grieving family tips the undertaker

[Anonymous No.11857613]

I feel no obligation to tip because wait staff bitch about being having to rely on tips, but also refuse to accept a fixed wage with no tips because they make more with them. They're greedy little fucks who thrive on guilt tripping their way to a higher wage.

[Anonymous No.11857810]

>>11856537
No. Between the doorman and bellhop, you tip $20 max. You add $10/day for housekeeping.

Say you stay 5 days. At $200 a day, that's $1000. Add on your tips ($20 for bellhop; $10/day for housekeeping) and you're at $1070.

[Anonymous No.11857821]

>>11857810
do most people seriously tip housekeeping? I have literally never done this and did not realize people do it regularly

[Anonymous No.11857841]

I worked in kitchens before and I refuse to tip 15% of bill to a fucking server.

Its so unfair that the pretty girl gets paid way more in a single night than the cook who is there all day everyday.

[Anonymous No.11857930]

>>11857210
I suspect that the great majority of funerals are performed either by a clergyman from whatever church the deceased belonged to (no tipping) or a family member so I dunno how often it actually comes up. Personally I think it's weird to be paying someone for that job in the first place.

>>11857400
>not tipping the gunman for upholding his second-amendment rights

>>11857821
Often there doesn't appear to be any apparatus for tipping housekeeping, but it's worth keeping an eye out for when there is. For example, in Mexico the housekeeping team will rotate which rooms they clean so that tips get spread out evenly. Because of this, you need to leave a tip DAILY or else you shaft somebody. So yeah, if you think American tipping is obnoxious try that one on for size.

>>11857841
Waitresses need funds to support Chad. The whole world pitches in.

[Anonymous No.11857977]

Tipping is retarded, I mostly only tip qt grills that don’t flirt or play the I want you to tip me game, I unironically never tip niggers and Hispanics or white guys with punchable faces because they’re entitled little shits

[Anonymous No.11857990]

>>11857977
Based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.11858368]

>>11854227

I think you're a nigger.

[Anonymous No.11859743]

>>11854204
How fucking cucked must a culture be to impliment this BS though

[Anonymous No.11861367]

>>11855069
>tipping a Taxi driver
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.11861385]

The KFC near me taped one of their biscuit boxes up at the drive through, with "TIPS" written on it in sharpie.

I tipped as much as throwing chicken that had been under a heat lamp for several hours in to a bucket and handing it out the window deserved: which is to say I ignored it.

But realistically? Fast food workers do just as much as many tipped positions, for the same base pay.

[Anonymous No.11861497]

>>11854227
>candian currency
nice b8

[Kung Fu Jew No.11861517]

>>11854204
American restaurant owner here. I hate my stupid entitled servers. Tipping is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.11861544]

>>11855069

This is bullshit. The only person to tip at a hotel (outside of restaurants) is the guy carrying your bags, and maybe you'll slip him a fiver, that's it.

[Anonymous No.11861551]

>>11861517

I bet you don't even pay them the normal minimum wage, entitled business owner

[Anonymous No.11861558]

>>11854204
you should consider that people have enough extra money that they're willing to pay cute girls ridiculous amounts of money to bring them out drinks and food

>>11854227
this doesn't include the fact that Indian and black people tip way less than others.

[Anonymous No.11861572]

>>11857392
Don't keep your money goy

[Anonymous No.11861578]

>>11861517
you should consider how shitty your servers would be if they didn't even make a paltry wage like 15ish dollars an hour

you could take that fucking nightmare of a labor situation with your notion of business morals, stick it up your ass and fucking die with it when your restuarant burns to the fucking ground because your staff is all skipping shifts, stealing from you, and fighting with customers

[Anonymous No.11861588]

I never tip, on principle. And I punish places that try to force it.

>used to work front desk at a popular hotel
>would have brochures for carryout and shit by the desk
>always recommended this good local place and sometimes ordered from there myself
>never tipped because fuck that and they got a ton of business from the hotel anyway
>one day I order a pizza
>owner of the place delivers it himself
>actually gives me shit about not tipping his delivery guys
>wait until he leaves
>throw out all his brochures
>do this every time they come to refill them
>tell people to buy from dominos

Fuck em

[Anonymous No.11861593]

>>11854204
I would assume that person is wealthy and gets kicks out of it too boost their ego.

[Anonymous No.11861595]

Tips fedora

[Anonymous No.11861602]

Going to America soon, what happens if I never tip but not visit a place twice?

[Anonymous No.11861610]

>>11861588
Aw yes, passive aggressively wait until he's gone like a coward then make your point. I bet that showed him.

[Anonymous No.11861618]

>>11861610
Right, I should've leapt over the desk and beat his ass right in the lobby like a real badass. Have you ever had a job in your life?

[Kung Fu Jew No.11861709]

>>11861551
>>11861578
So what's your feelings on servers/bartenders claiming all of their tips? They make more money than anyone else in the building typically yet how many do you know that actually claim all of their tips and pay taxes on their income like everyone else? What makes them exempt from paying their taxes like everyone else? My servers take home more in cash than my highest paid cooks who are all paid well, yet they only claim a small portion of their cash. And before you blab on about an owner paying them less than minimum wage, you don't know what you're talking about. If they don't make enough tips to equal state minimum non-tipped wages, business owners are obligated by law to pay full minimum wage. That's how it works in reality. So when minimum wage does get raised to $15 an hour, if they don't make $15/hour between their tipped wage and tips, I still have to pay them $15/hour. Stay salty bitches!

[Kung Fu Jew No.11861717]

>>11861578
What kind of shit holes do you work in?

[Anonymous No.11862256]

Well there's a reason why we don't pay out the ass for food while other countries do. Also, I can almost guarantee that out sevices make 2x what yours make because of the tips

[Anonymous No.11862356]

>>11854204
I pay my servers $22 an hour ($20 if they've been with me less than a year), take all their tips, donate them to World Vision, and claim a tax deduction on the donations. We have a board displaying 100 sponsored kids in the front lobby, so it helps with our local image too.

If anybody tries to keep tips I fire them. I don't think this is legal, but I make them too guilty to complain about using the tips for donation and look forward to seeing what happens on social media if they try to complain about their tips going to the needy.

[Anonymous No.11862367]

Me and my girlfriend hate tipping because no matter the service you're an awful person if you don't- and they remember. Minimum is 10% but they expect more.

My first time at a bar when i was younger, i had 100$ in my pocket. I told the waitress in good heart "please take a tip, but only what you think you deserve!" she walked off her shift for the night without coming back when i had asked another server about her. I had no money to cab/bus home in -35 weather. Stupid bitch still makes me mad.

[Anonymous No.11862374]

>>11862367
>flash a woman a wad of cash
>expect them not to take it all
Alright now, part of this is your fault.

[Anonymous No.11862378]

>>11862374
Yeah i know. I learned my lesson. :<

[Anonymous No.11862397]

>>11854228
Its all a racket anyways for service people. They'll piss and moan about how they make so much less than minimum before tips, but its not that much at all. It used to be a more meaningful amount, like earning $4 when minimum is $6, and a couple dollars meant more.
The big official minimum wage signs just came in where I work, and tipped pay is about $2 below minimum, putting it close to $10/hr. If the wait staff make even $20 in tips on an 8 hour shift they are already making more than the people doing all the actually work at Applebee's or whatever the fuck
Fuck anyone who says you need to be putting down 20% so they can walk home with a pocket full of extra cash. Most serving is as minimum wage a job as any other position at chains and shit, shouldn't be treated like the workers deserve a premium for not spitting in your food.

[Anonymous No.11862400]

I'm a burger and tipping is a massive fucking scam.

If employers can't afford wages they can't afford employees- shunting costs even further onto customers isn't even a thinly-veiled extortion, and I have no idea how the general public let themselves be conned into believing tipping is not only normal, but expected. My parents weren't rich but when tipping ever came up they made it rain... just another version of wanting Jordans because they're expensive and no other reason.

It's like the very ground level of political finance manipulation. That's just "how it's done" and no one wants to open their fucking eyes a little bit and say anything about how shitty it is, but I've already given up and just never get myself in situations where tipping is expected at all.

[Anonymous No.11862417]

>>11854628
Nzfag here, never had a problem with service at a restaurant and every one has always given nice service despite tipping being if anything frowned apon because they should be getting minimum wage anyway. The only time I've ever had a server complain was on a ski field where it was foreign workers and most people were tourists. Though if I ever go to a hotel I tip the porter and other bag carriers, though taxi drivers are a fucking rip off anyway so like fuck their getting a tip.

[Anonymous No.11862549]

>>11854204
Because Burgers are fucking rarted

[Anonymous No.11862563]

>>11862367
You should have written her a letter c/o the business she works at describing how much she has overvalued herself, and that the only way she could be worth as much as she decided is if she had taken nothing at all. I've done this a few times and returned to make eye contact with her. They always remember and have very funny expressions on their face. Then I say, "I don't think I'll be purchasing anything from this establishment. Not if they continue to employ people like you," and walk out. Feels real good.

[Kung Fu Jew No.11863009]

>>11862356
> I don't think this is legal
Actually since you are paying them more than minimum wage, they're not paid a tipped employee wage. You have a no tip policy in place so technically you shouldn't be breaking any laws. I would love to do the same thing but my area wouldn't be agreeable to our price increases to cover it.

[Kung Fu Jew No.11863018]

>>11862256
>Also, I can almost guarantee that out sevices make 2x what yours make because of the tips
You're probably right but how many of them pay taxes on any of those tips? Explain why it's ok to cheat the rest of the country out of tax revenue? Everyone else in the building pays taxes on 100% of their wages, why does everyone think it's ok for servers to cheat on their taxes and before you say anything about shitty server wages see
>>11861709

[Anonymous No.11863039]

>>11854204
How do you get a lot of people to do something for free? Offer a prize.

How do you get a large number of people to work insanely hard for less money than their labor is worth? Tipping culture.

I dont bring the waitsperson with me to your restaurant. S/HE works for YOU, not me. YOU need to pay this person, not me.

America doesnt understand the concept of a fair wage for a fair days work.

[Anonymous No.11863050]

People shame each other because they think waitresses and delivery drivers are these woefully underpaid slaves who need all the help they can get.

[Anonymous No.11863064]

>>11854253
So a customer is held hostage for good service where you live? I am not going to tip to "correct" bad service on my first visit. And I wont be going back.

[Anonymous No.11863072]

>>11856420
and yet you enable the very culture you object to

smells like fascism when you are intimidated into doing the opposite of what you believe for fear of reprisals.

[Anonymous No.11863076]

>>11854227
I can assure you no one in their right mind does this.. except for retardedly rich idiots

[Kung Fu Jew No.11863176]

>>11863050
^^^ this
My servers make more money than local police, firefighters and people risking their lives in the military. That's why I made a comment earlier about entitlement. You should hear the whining and bitching if they don't make a certain percentage on a table. It's ridiculous. Nevermind the fact you just made $50-$75 in one hour carrying food and drink from point A to point B and being nice. Someone tips less than 20% and these bitches act like it's the end of the world. Like they wasted their time. People go to school and get educations to make that kind of money. We train them for two weeks and they act like they're doing something so important that they should be paid the same or more than those that risk their lives daily.

[Anonymous No.11863200]

>>11863176
I used to work in a kitchen. Front of house staff made 3-4 times as much as us making the food. And actually cooking was a WAY harder job. Eventually management started making the waitresses share their tips with us because some of us started asking to be switched to FOH. They complained about that regularly for a whole year and some of them quit, even though they were only asked to share a quarter of their tips with us.
God did I even hate those sexy idiots

[Anonymous No.11863229]

Americans have ingrained tipping culture into being expected, because they've become a slave race without noticing that their employers pay them less and less, stripping away every right they have, and they get mad at the people that purchase the products they peddle instead of their bosses.

Truly, they are a lost people.

[Anonymous No.11863265]

>>11863229
Spoken like a true wagecuck. Stay salty my friend

[Anonymous No.11863274]

>>11854204
Charity is part of our culture, so much so, that it is calculated as part of the income for servers. This is partly because we're all filthy rich compared to everyone else in the world. Don't like it? Don't come.

[Anonymous No.11863284]

>>11863274
>we're all filthy rich

Except the restaurant staff that are paid so pitifully they literally need tips to survive, right?

[Anonymous No.11863288]

>>11863284
>Pitiful waitstaff
>Still has 3 times as much as anyone else in the world.

[Anonymous No.11863296]

>>11854227
the best part is the pie charts, none of them is even related to % listed

[Anonymous No.11863319]

>>11863288
This meme really is something else.

[Anonymous No.11863333]

>>11854227
>Use a coupon to save money
>Encouraged to tip a lot regardless
Yea, no

[Anonymous No.11863350]

Tipping gives you a chance to communicate with a worker in a way that they might actually care about. If someone fucks up service badly enough, give a low/no tip and next time they might try harder.

The notion that customers are being held hostage by workers with threats of getting spit in your food are mostly just urban legends that exist to make sure people tip.

In some parts of the country, tipping isn't compulsory. In others, a waiter will chase you down if you leave without tipping, even if they did a shit job.

[Anonymous No.11863352]

>>11854227
Wtf is this bullshit?

[Anonymous No.11863358]

>>11863229
So what happens when there's no tipping and someone is a shitty server? They just keep getting paid, even if they're not good at their job? A job that is entirely about subjective interactions.

Tipping works. If someone doesn't get the tips they want or expect, they can do a better job or find a different one.

[Anonymous No.11863376]

>>11863358
>So what happens when there's no tipping and someone is a shitty server?
The same thing that happens in any other job that doesn't have tipping in America...
my little anon cant be this retarded

[Anonymous No.11863400]

>>11863376
But being a waiter isn't like any other job, except maybe other service positions where tipping is involved.

If a waiter sucks at their job, how would anyone know? Would the customer have to find a manager and complain at the end of the meal? There's literally no other metric by which you can measure the quality of service except for the happiness of the customer. It's not like laying bricks or welding machine parts where someone can evaluate the work and decide whether or not someone is a right fit for the job directly.

[Anonymous No.11863425]

>>11863400
>If a waiter sucks at their job, how would anyone know? Would the customer have to find a manager and complain at the end of the meal?
You've never been approached by a manager at a restaurant? It is a managers job to ensure the quality of his workers in every field of work.

[Anonymous No.11863480]

>>11863358
>So what happens when there's no tipping and someone is a shitty server?
If someone is a shitty server and gets zero tips, the employer, by law is supposed to make up the difference. $5.44 is tipped minimum wage in my state. $8.44 is non tipped minimum wage in my state. By law if the server doesn't make any tips, the employer must make up the difference to the untipped minimum wage of $8.44. Either way, whether you tip or you don't tip and unless the server works in a shady shit hole, that server will make at least that state in tipped minimum wage at the end of the pay period. It's a stupid concept but our economics are so fucked up and our minimum wages don't make any sense with today's costs of living. I would love to see minimum wage go up to a reasonable level but with increased minimum wage costs go up across the board for everyone. Don't feel bad for the untipped server. If they didn't get tipped, more times than not they deserve to not get tipped. Either way they get paid a wage that they agreed to accept when they started employment.

[Anonymous No.11863511]

>>11863200
Most of my BOH staff are too sloppy looking to wait tables and they're ok with that. I want hot little tight bodies waiting our tables not some fat sweat hogs

[Anonymous No.11863547]

>>11863480
You misunderstood the question.
We're not talking about how the server gets paid.

The question is: if there is no tipping, how would management figure out which were the good servers and which were the bad servers?

[Anonymous No.11863558]

>>11863547
Customers would complain if the server is bad. Compliments if the server is good. How hard is this to understand?

[Anonymous No.11863573]

>>11857392
Working at a casino I get tipped by black people all the time. I don't know what this is all about.

[Anonymous No.11863757]

>>11854204
Tip jobs are paid at below minimum wage because if the tip culture. If you don’t reach below minimum wage with tips, the establishment will reimburse the employee. I’m not saying I support tip culture, but for the time being, you’re getting a service that implies there will be some average amount of tip for the product. I really only tip 15% for restraunts and maybe some little things like a buck for the Uber if I have a few on me. And again I only do so because it’s just how the service works. I wish the “gratuity” fee was just apart of the product fee so I wouldn’t have to give a fuck about tipping.

[Anonymous No.11863766]

We're scared of vengeful waiters soiling are food. I am at least.

[Anonymous No.11864028]

>>11854204
Last time i was in the US it was 10%, this time it was 15%. Seems like its going to keep going up rapidly

[Anonymous No.11864449]

>>11855490
>I didn't know australians had a no tipping thing going on.
As far as I know, most countries do not have a tipping culture, and get as good a service as Americans, if not better. There is usually a service charge in most places, which basically boils down to the same thing as a tip, but it isn't presented as a way of measuring the worth of whoever served your table: it's just a little extra to pay for the waiter's salary. Tipping is usually reserved for exceptionally good service.

I've been going to the same restaurants/bars, and ordering delivery from the same places for years, and can only recall dealing with underwhelming service twice. Once, the restaurant was taken by assault by two busloads of high school athletes on their way back to their hometown, and the place became a chaotic mess, and the service slow. The second was when my friends and I walked into a restaurant that was supposed to offer a private service to a local politician, and we unknowingly waltzed into it; the staff acted politely, but hurried us to finish our meal quickly before people started to arrive.

[Anonymous No.11864495]

>>11863350
>>11863358
>>11863547

OR, the waiters are paid minimum/a decent wage, do their jobs correctly, and if you get shit service, you tell them that and/or speak to the manager. If the waiter keeps on being a bad worker or a prick and getting more and more complaints, he gets the sack, and someone (hopefully) competent takes over his job.

[Anonymous No.11864511]

>>11854204
>used to work at restaraunt
>regular who doesn't tip comes in
>they'd spit/snot and put pubes in his food
you broke boys deserve it

[Anonymous No.11864520]

The autism in this thread about the morality of tipping is astounding.

[Anonymous No.11864591]

>>11857613
This, but I still tip because I'm a pussy

[Anonymous No.11864909]

>>11861709
>muh taxes

[Kung Fu Jew No.11865070]

>>11863547
A good manager would know whether or not they have a good server after the first couple of weeks or less of employment. A shitty manager is the one who doesn't know if they have a good server or not. Customer complaints are a start. A good manager would have eyes on his floor at all times. That manager also would do table touches and find out for themselves directly how their server is doing. A shitty manager sits in the office waiting for complaints

[Anonymous No.11865076]

>>11854227
shit bait m8

[Kung Fu Jew No.11865081]

>>11864909
Enjoy your delicious hot pockets prepared by mommy Mr Neet

[Anonymous No.11865710]

>>11854227
The only people I don’t mind tipping are delivery drivers considering they Use their own vehicles

[Anonymous No.11865780]

>>11854204
Waiting tables is a bottom tier job in the US. They are paid under minimum wage, so customers give them tips to help offset this. It is not like in Europe where you have to have a PhD and know three languages to get a job in a restaurant.

[Anonymous No.11865783]

>>11856431
How does tipping prevent them from spitting in your food? You don't pay until you're done

[Anonymous No.11865799]

Anyone who defends tipping is a disgruntled waiter/waitress who is too fucking stupid to get a real job

Fucking beggars

[Anonymous No.11865817]

Tipping culture is a covert form of social welfare, it is the normalization of the welfare state

Tipping culture provides a training ground for women to perfect their whore skills

[Anonymous No.11865827]

>>11863350
Nah buddy they don't try harder. Waiters/waitresses are dumb fucks who blame everyone else. This is why they're working such a shitty job in the first place. People who care about improving their skills are working at a better job

[Anonymous No.11867211]

>>11863573
No you don't

[Anonymous No.11867217]

>>11863400
Haven't you ever been asked to fill out a customer satisfaction survey? They're everywhere.

[Anonymous No.11867406]

>>11856898
This

[Anonymous No.11867533]

What happened to Slightly Torn Dollar Bill Guy?

[Anonymous No.11867553]

>>11854207
Kek. They rather pay through the nose for someone carrying their food a few feet than to admit negroes can ever be right about something.

[Anonymous No.11867559]

>>11867533
what eat now?
probably gave up after /co/ck/ and what has ensued

[Anonymous No.11867564]

>>11865780
>They are paid under minimum wage, so customers give them tips to help offset this
they are paid under minimum wage, so the owner doesn't have to pay as much in taxes. like what was mentioned above. servers claim as little as they can get away with and that's fine with the owner because they pay the same tax the employee pays

[Anonymous No.11867565]

>>11854241
They lost good wage because owners realized they'd still do the job because how much they earned though tips.
Of course employers will drop wage to the point waiters would just keep working, then made the customer their second employer, with a nice guilt trip included.
Absolute insanity.

[Anonymous No.11867601]

>>11857040
15%?! I can barely pay my rent with 20%. What kind of penny pincher only tips 35%?

[Anonymous No.11867624]

>>11867553
Niggers don't tip because they're drug addicts, not because they've thought critically about anything in their lives. They came to the right conclusion for wrong reasons, it was completely on accident. It's like how a woman can possibly be correct about something but not because she's put any thought into it, she's just spewing words out her mouth because she's used to getting away with anything, never called on it.

[Anonymous No.11868420]

>>11854227
This tbqh. Tipping culture is some retard shit. Restaurants should pay living wage and tipping should be somthing strictly optional and not expected.

[Anonymous No.11868429]

>>11855069
>except pet groomers who get no tips
You've never worked in pet grooming

[Anonymous No.11868441]

>>11855089
the amount of work that would be put into a $25 dish is much more cost effective than preparing it yourself, even if you had the equipment.
think of the time to prepare then execute a 4 part plate (starch, veg, protein, garnish or sauce)
>go to better restaurants get a better value

[Anonymous No.11868459]

Fat ass neet loser always would come into the restaurant I worked at. Was super entitled and never tipped but ordered 1-2 times a day

>everytime he came thru id go to the bathroom real quick and credit card swipe my ass for poo particles and musky ball sweat
>would drop some of his food on the nasty floor we never cleaned
>would even make effort to use food that was near or already spoiled
>im also pro at gleeking and would gleek over his pizza or burger kek

Was the best thing ever to watch him scarfthe food down with a huge grin on my face

The waitress always let me know when he came in too lol

[Anonymous No.11868496]

>>11868459
>>11868459
Devilish

[Anonymous No.11868523]

>>11854204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sbYy0WdGQ

Tipping culture is just a way for the employers to exploit the consumer by making them pay the employee for them.

Tipping is no more about quality of service, most people tip only because of peer pressure and obligation. The true meaning of tipping is gone. Now it is something that we do not by will, but by coersion.

[Anonymous No.11868524]

>>11868441
depends. If you hate cooking, perhaps. If you enjoy cooking that's a different story.

>>think of the time to prepare then execute a 4 part plate (starch, veg, protein, garnish or sauce)
for most dishes? well under 30 minutes of effort, and that includes cleaning up.

[Anonymous No.11868565]

just a part of americans scamming culture

[Anonymous No.11868601]

>>11854227
>$15-20 per bag
lmao, who the fuck wrote this