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11753624 No.11753624 [Reply] [Original]

Do people not know how to cook anymore?

>> No.11753636

>>11753624
>use recipe
>do people not know how to cook anymore?
is no different from saying
>use english language
>do people not know how to write books anymore?

I fucking hate Canadians so god damn much

>> No.11753647

>>11753636
>Years ago, while teaching a baking class, I looked across the room to witness an eager new baker in the back, his arm deep in a bowl of wet chocolate-cake batter, blending it with fervent enthusiasm. “The recipe says to stir it by hand,” he replied to my offer of a spatula, clearly anxious to accurately follow instructions.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/article-do-people-not-know-how-to-cook-any-more/

>> No.11753672

>>11753636
He's not wrong. The amount of people who think that if a dish doesn't have a name and a recipe then it can't be real food is stupefying.

>> No.11753691

>>11753647
Stirring cake batter with a spatula? It is the dumb leading the retarded.

>> No.11753693

>>11753624
Ate you going to at least post the article?

>> No.11753698

>>11753624
I actually know more about cooking since YouTube

>> No.11753702

>>11753693
see
>>11753647

>> No.11753725

>>11753624
>means to a c...
?

>> No.11753743

>>11753624
>>11753647
clickbait spam

>> No.11753755

>>11753691
>Stirring cake batter with a spatula?
Yikes! It's called folding.

>> No.11753771
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>>11753698
based

>> No.11753779
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>>11753691
spatulas work great 95% of the time. Whisk is obviously the best but then you have to clean it _and_ get a spatula out anyways to get the batter out of the bowl

>> No.11753889

>>11753624
I stop following recipes after a while. Kind of just treat things like components and mix and match different components with different recipes.

>> No.11753900

>>11753889
and yet you wonder why you're not a Michelin star chef...

>> No.11753951

>>11753624
Every girl I fuck seems to think it's cute that they can't cook. Are there any good women left?

>> No.11753973

>>11753951
No.

>> No.11753987

>>11753951
yes but you'd unironically have to go to church to meet them

>> No.11753993

>>11753987
fuck

>> No.11754001

>>11753624
Getting a feel for how every herb and spice and cooking method affects the outcome of a dish is almost impossible if you just cook food for yourself. Spacing out what a chef does in a couple of weeks/months while he's learning over a couple of years for a normal person can not produce the same knowledge.

So of course I need the fucking recipe.

>> No.11754009

>>11753987
How do you ironically go to church

>> No.11754017

>>11754009
You go there to fuck with the pastor.

>> No.11754023

>>11754001
>be me
>use the google
>learn all the base techniques needed to cook instead of recipes
>WA LA

>> No.11754027

People have never known how to cook. However, the more recent generations, instead of throwing together slop with their nonexistent cooking skills like boomers do, just choose to eat out all the time instead and now boomers are up in arms about "nobody cooking at home". And of course it is the boomers' fault for not teaching their children to cook anything other than disgusting shit like store bought pasta sauce and cream of mushroom casserole, which convinces millennials, and therefore zoomers, that cooking decent is some impossibly difficult challenge, further encouraging them to just eat out all of the time.

>> No.11754038

>>11754009
I show up on Easter Sunday with a t-shirt that says Jesus is my homeboy and roll my eyes so loud everyone can hear it

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>>11753771
based indeed

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>>11754066
>>11753771
based

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>>11754072
Looks moist

>> No.11754080

>>11754072
Jesus, that dude is like a xenomorph. I'd be terrified if I were a piece of salami.

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>>11754080

>> No.11754124

>>11753900
Such an ignorant and childish comment. Assess yourself.

>> No.11755024

>>11753900

Chefs dont use recipes for the most part due to the fact that they know how to cook

>> No.11755051

>>11753672
>doesn't have a name
I just say what the main components to those types of people in French. Never once have one of those knuckle draggers understood what I said.

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>>11753755
You don't fold with a spatula, dingus. You saute and grill with a spatula.

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>>11755695
this is called a rubber spatula, now you know

>> No.11755758

Shitty thread OP, but while we're on the topic, my roommate has always acted like cooking is some forgotten skill of an ancient kind of people and I don't get it. I look up a recipe online for whatever I want, buy some groceries, cook a batch according to instructions, and have easy dinners for the week.

Meanwhile, he'll spout every excuse in the book not to cook. It's too hard, healthy food is expensive, buying groceries is a hassle, he doesn't have time, he's too lazy, etc. But at the same time, he'll spend way more on fast food and pre-made stuff, will stop by the grocery store every day for his fill of snack and drink and will spend hours wasting time watching dumb shit on his computer.

Not only that, but he recently subscribed to one of these services which overcharge you for ingredients you can get at the store, and a recipe you can find online. The wasteful packaging aside, all it saves is the time it takes to find a recipe and buy groceries at the store which he visits daily anyway. He still has to cook all of it. But despite that he claims to like it because "he's lazy". To top it all off, his dumbass girlfriend was using an app earlier that comes with recipes, and telling me about it as if that was a revolutionary thing that allowed her to cook.

I think millennials are just retarded about it overall.

>> No.11755770

>>11755695
>saute with spatula
>not a pair of tongs and the necessary strength to flip your ingredients in the pan
You disgust me

>> No.11755779

>>11755758
>healthy food is expensive
lol i hate this one, like, yes cunt, blueberries, asparagus & salmon are expensive

try looking at the price for a bag of carrots or a cabbage

>> No.11755781

>>11753647
If he's enthusiastic about it he's already ahead of the curve. Typical that a teacher would want to ruin that.

>> No.11755824

>>11755708
No, it is called a spoonula. Now you know.

>> No.11755995

>>11753691
Those silicone paddles that you mix cake batter with arecalled spatulas, too

>> No.11755998

>>11755995
>Calling a scraper a spatula
It is not okay to be fat and dumb, son.

>> No.11756002

>>11753624
MEANS TO A WHAT

>> No.11756008

>>11753951
Be a man and cook for them, you pussy. One of the few things i learned from my old man is that cooking is a totally fuckin masculine art.

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>>11755998
Blow me

>> No.11756184

I cook often, out of poorfaggotry - which means that I'm generally unfamiliar with techniques involving more expensive produce, herbs, meat etc,but am pretty fucking good at getting loads of flavor with simple ingredients. One thing I've noticed is that most of my friends don't cook well - they're all much more financially secure, so they eat out a lot more. Their grasp of technique is generally shaky - poor heat control, can't saute, slow prep, meat often overcooked, don't clean as they go, etc.

>> No.11756208

>>11753624
Do people REALLY not know how to cook anymore?

>> No.11756448

People can unironically cook better now than back when boomers were cooking.

>> No.11756453

>>11755781
This., If the fucker is willing to fucking stir cake batter by literal hand, give that bitch some real cooking (because baking isn't sweetcheeks sorry) and watch him fly.

>> No.11756485

>>11754001
I learned cooking by eating what I cooked, living alone.
How do you not learn how much salt you like in your food when salting your own food?

>>11755051
Sauté de pommes de terre de la veille avec un œuf.
>I reheated yesterday's potatoes with an egg.

>>11756184
Herbs literally grow in dirt, they're not supposed to be expensive. Get seeds, visit >>>/an/, cook with fresh herbs that are far superior to dried/frozen products.

>> No.11756701

>>11756485
I've tried growing basil and chili a couple of times, and failed miserably every time.Maybe I'll give a window box another shot (apartmentfag).

>> No.11756899

I unironically learned a lot by watching the basics with babish series

>> No.11757057
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>>11753624
People don't need to cook anymore. You can get fast food delivered via fucking uber these days. Cooking takes time and effort and is a skill that you have to learn. Really simple stuff like knowing how to heat a pan and add cold egg to it without making it stick takes a few tries to understand and can't really be explained. Most people simply do not care about doing any of this, and the facts are that most people save time (money) by ordering out do to efficiency of logistics. I will give an example.
>company aquires meat cheaper than you can
>company acquires all spices and seasonings cheaper than you can
>they mass produce product and send it right next to your house
>you can buy a whole frozen burger for a dollar
versus
>spend all the time and energy to make from scratch

It's obvious why people don't cook. Nobody I know my age knows what rosemary, dill, parsley, paprika, what peppers are different from others, what romaine versus iceberg is, what wines do in food. And they don't care. It's why health rates are in decline.

>> No.11757074

>>11753624
I thought Michael Schumacher was a vegetable, not him preparing them.

>> No.11757079

>>11754038
One time when I was a kid I was in church and some older teenager was wearing a "Godsmack" hoodie in front of me. Fuckin had a laugh at that one.

>> No.11757113

>>11756016
>White
>9.5"
Bait

>> No.11757117

>>11757057
>It's why health rates are in decline.
2nd most important reason I'm learning to cook for myself. The 1st being budget.

>> No.11757121

>>11753624
>Why Millennials are killing cooking.

>> No.11757133

>>11755824
>He calls a slappywockie a spoonula

>> No.11757136

>>11756008
based old man

>> No.11757149

>>11757117
Good on you. Speaking personally, I've cured a chronic life long illness just by changing my diet.

>> No.11757197

Feeding yourself well on a budget is a learned skill, and it does involve some discipline on a daily basis. You have to shop sensibly and manage what you bought so it gets cooked and eaten before it goes bad. You have to actually make yourself cook instead of just saying fuck it and ordering a pizza. And you have to get good enough at cooking that what you make seems worth the effort of prep, cooking and cleaning up after. It's a commitment you choose to make. Otherwise you can live off sandwiches, convenience foods and rotisserie chicken.

>> No.11757208

>>11757197

What would be a good, sensible budget diet? I'm trying to lose some muffin top fat and even though I don't ever gain weight by eating like shit but I don't seem to lose weight when I try to change things up but that's probably cause I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

>> No.11757239

>>11757208
sensible budget depends entirely on where you live.

weight loss is simple: eat less. portion control.

>> No.11757414

>>11753624
>Blue Apron
They never knew how to cook, that's why shitty restaurants did business and that's why Blue Apron is a thing.

>> No.11757440

>>11753987
I ain't gettin' shot!

>> No.11757445

>>11757113
lol

>> No.11757446

>>11757208
I do a mostly vegan diet of dried beans and lentils, rice, pasta and a lot of veggies (including lots of greens). My food cost is usually about fifty cents per person for each meal. Double that if I'm being extravagant. Last night's meal was a spicy red lentil dal over brown basmati rice with a cauliflower and potato curry on the side. I'm heating up the leftovers for lunch right now. So that's four meals for a food cost of about $2 and just under an hour of cooking time.
>>11757239
>weight loss is simple: eat less. portion control.
Which is hard at first because you feel hungry. It gets a lot easier once you've lost the weight. Easier to stay trim than to get trim.

>> No.11757497

>>11753889
>I stop following recipes after a while
this.
once i figure out the dish, i start fucking with it to suit my or my guests tastes.
There is nothing wrong with experimenting in the kitchen. Thats literally what all chefs do. find an existing recipe and then modify it.

>> No.11757505

>>11757497
>find an existing recipe and then modify it.
This is part of the fun of cooking, but it's good to remember that good ingredients presented simply are the heart of many good recipes, especially when it comes to home cooking.

>> No.11757515

My roommates eat fast food 2 times a day everyday. I cant afford that shit so I cook every meal

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>>11756184
>don't clean as they go
This triggers me. When my ex cooked she always left behind a fucking tornado of shit in the kitchen then bitched about the hour+ she had to spend cleaning it up because she let it spot weld itself to the surfaces.
done with the pot? RINSE IT! literally 10 seconds while its still warm. instead of 5 minutes later of hard scrubbing.
once the cooking is complete, the cleaning process should be 5 minutes, and should consist of moving the shit from the sink to the dishwasher.

>> No.11757523

>>11757521
the person not cooking does the dishes learn2relationship

>> No.11757532

>>11757523
Thats a shit excuse for leaving behind a pile of shit behind for someone else to clean.
>someone else is going to clean because i did the cooking, so im not going to rinse out anything and let all the shit dry to an impossible to remove crust.
cleaning should be part of the process and when done properly adds a negligible amount of time to the overall process.

>> No.11757690

>>11753647
so, idiots do things.
thanks for the update.
quit promoting what ever it is you're trying to get people to click on. this is like the opposite of click-bait bullshit. it's thoughtful and sneaky.
go to hell, loser.

>> No.11757703

>>11757523
If that's the agreement. Depending on who's cooking that could be a shitty agreement. My wife and I solved that by getting a dishwasher. If you dirty something that doesn't go in the dishwasher you clean it. The rest of the dishes get cleaned automatically.

>> No.11757736

>>11757703
not really. they get sprayed with hot water, but in reality, food sticks to utensils so you'll be using the sink anyway. no reason to put the now clean dishes into the dish warmer.

>> No.11757961

>>11753951
>Every girl I fuck
Why would a cumdumpster learn how to cook, she sleeps with men for free meals. Find a girl who doesn't sleep with you after 1 day.

>> No.11757985

>>11757057
>>11757117
>>11757149
Honestly, people don't even need to eat as much as they do. If you don't go to the gym, do not eat 3 meals a day. More people would be healthier if they fasted and then took maybe half the days out of the week to make a healthy and/or delicious meal.

>>11753672
I've never heard of that before, but I'm hispanic so we just cook our foods.

>>11753900
>>11755024
Chefs actually learn their techniques from recipes or the people who created them. You have to start somewhere, there is a recipe for everything. You are supposed to start off on recipes after learning the basics and once you get an idea of what flavors are and how they come together, then you cook on your own. Think smarter not harder. It's pretentious to think you have to sit down and ignore recipes while experimenting with already made dishes yourself to figure shit out.

>> No.11758188

>>11755758
I can half-relate since I am a perfectionist with what I cook. I really don't like ending up with a sub-par result so if getting good ingredients/recipe is too much of a hassle I'd rather not bother and just eat cold cuts & cheese or eat out. I am trying to break myself of the habit of psyching myself out but it just really sucks when you have to eat your own mistakes.

>> No.11758207

>>11757523
That's really stupid. The person who cooked should have the discipline to not hate doing the dishes afterwards.

If only one person is doing the cooking though, then you're better off finding a better person than trying to change them by making things "even".

Learn2adult.

>> No.11758223

>>11757521
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I forced myself to like doing the dishes, and now after a few decades I actually do genuinely like it and find it relaxing.

I love doing the dishes WHILE I'm cooking. While I wait for one part of my recipe to finish, I'll try to wash up whatever I dirtied right away to avoid having a big stack later. It saves me so much time later because when I'm done cooking, I'm the kind of person who wants to just dig right in and eat my food HOT.

Knowing that 90% of my pots, pans, and dishes are done gives me such peace of mind. And yes we do have a dishwasher, though it's more for my GF because I like to discipline myself into just washing my own shit.

I never want to become a lazy person. I'll run up and down the stairs 3 times if I forgot something too instead of yelling at people to throw it down.

>> No.11758243

>>11758207
It's a very common division of labor in a relationship or roomate sort of situation to have one person cook and the other clean.

If one person is cooking AND cleaning then I certainly hope that other slacker(s) are doing something else around the house like laundry, yard work, etc.

>> No.11758245

>>11756008

you're a faggot and so is your dad. cooking is not masculine. at all. it's preparing food, bitch work. i'd rather not eat than cook.

>> No.11758280

>>11758245
Cooking is very masculine you dumb idiot. Majority of best chiefs in the world are males. Get that in your small brains you uneducated swine.

>> No.11758372

>>11758245
I suspect you're the kind of thing that argues he wouldn't eat food touched by nogs so I hope you magically get transported to the south overnight where you'll starve.

>> No.11758384

I was depressed for a while after my ex left me but then I started watching gordon ramsay's recipes, started cooking, and it helped me a lot. realising you can create something delicious is pretty cool.

>> No.11758524

>>11753624
If you went by a 1 to 10 scale where 1 is socks-and-sandals wearing American dad in his 40s and 10 is a Pajeet chef i'd say i'm a 6. I'm not incredibly resilient but i always try the spiciest stuff anyway.

>> No.11758867

>>11754027
I thank God my grandma taught me to cook before she died instead of my mom, who's "cooking" consisted of throwing shit in a slow cooker or pasta with canned sauce because despite being a stay at home mom to two kids "never had time to cook".

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>>11758243
Both people should be wanting to cook and eager for their turn. If both wish to cook bad enough, then they cook together, clean together and eat together.

Cooking and washing the dishes shouldn't be a chore that makes you feel feelings of bitterness towards another person. That's what boomer thots do, is guilt you for doing something that should be enjoyable.

Eating is such a nice thing. Food needs to be shared like a hobbit. If your mate is a slob, just feed them. I feed my gf and she's a drunk gamer who never does any chores. I never feel bad that I do most of the cooking because I'm happy to be a male "housewife" who cooks really good food. I don't care that all she can make is mac n cheese. I love her and accept her for who she is because nobody would ever do the same for me.

>> No.11759774

>>11757521
This is only perpetuated by people who really know how to cook and have always been doing it. As someone who is trying his best to cook more often, cleaning as I go is less important than making sure something doesn't burn, or not forgetting a key ingredient.

>>11759679
>Eating is such a nice thing
>If your mate is a slob just feed them
This is how people get fat. Eating is something you need to do that can be made pleasant, but food as a "reward" is the worst idea.

>> No.11759795

>>11753624

How do you cook? You just invent a new dish each time? You faggot

>> No.11761625 [DELETED] 

>>11756208
Even when all women had to cook for their families, most of them didn't know how to cook. They would just slap something together and call it food.

>> No.11761674

>>11753636
It's more like if they knew the English language, but didn't know how to use it in a conversation.

>> No.11761701

>>11761625
>omg anon my mom is such a good cook you have to try her dinner
>go to girlfriends parents house for dinner
>it's instant mashed potatoes, covered in a gravy packet, bagged salad, and over salted meat
I'm not above eating shit like this, just was expecting more I guess.

>> No.11761764

>>11757961
>Find a girl who doesn't sleep with you after 1 day.
For you, every girl.

>> No.11761910

>>11753624
I don't know how to off the top of my head, but following a recipe isn't rocket science.
Everything I've ever made from a cookbook or online has been well received... couldn't list a single full meal from scratch though without instructions.