Shit posting aside, is meat bad for you?

[Anonymous No.11751702]

[Anonymous No.11751711]

what's a semi vegetarian?

[Anonymous No.11751713]

>>11751711
you only eat meat half of the time

[Anonymous No.11751714]

>>11751702
>Studies show that someone who cares enough about their health to completely block out entire food groups because it might be bad for them are healthier
Gee, you don't say?

[Anonymous No.11751717]

>>11751713
so like most poor people?

[Anonymous No.11751719]

>>11751711
Guess: meat eater who doesn't like it much or maybe just can't afford it regularly

[Anonymous No.11751730]

>>11751714
Interesting POV. What group of meat eaters would you say falls under that category?

Maybe limit it to people who only do X amount of exercise per week? But then you run into issues of how that relates to the average person, who doesn't exercise at all.

[Anonymous No.11751741]

studies, you say?

[Anonymous No.11751748]

>>11751730
>What group of meat eaters would you say falls under that category?
Paleofags.

[Anonymous No.11751767]

>>11751730
>What group of meat eaters would you say falls under that category?
Does it matter?
There is no doubt the average westerner consumes an unhealthy amount of meat. The problem is that advocating a no-meat diet is reactionary and counterproductive to promoting a LOW meat diet.

As far as environmental harm goes the same thing is true. Maintaining agricultural balance reduces the use of chemical pesticides, fertilizers, drugs for livestock, and so on. A small number of animals raised in conjunction with a large amount of crops is far more enviornmentally friendly than nothing but farming crops because it can operate in a closed loop. The animals feed on the farm scraps. The animals waste fertilizes the farm. It solves problems of waste disposal and the need for fertilizers. If done on a small enough scale then further improvements are possible. For example, a vegetable farmer can keep chickens. the chickens eat bugs off the veggie plants and in turn provide eggs and meat. It's a win-win situation, provided the balance is maintained. Small amounts of meat, large amounts of crops.

[Anonymous No.11751776]

>Lower risk of death
What now?

[Anonymous No.11751788]

>>11751767
>Does it matter?
Of course it matters.

If person A and B both pay attention to their nutrition and health, but one is vegetarian and lives longer than the meat eater (or vice versa) then that is very important.
>There is no doubt the average westerner consumes an unhealthy amount of meat.
I don't think that's true at all. The problem is the quality of meat and how we're cooking it. If you look at obesity statistics, the obesity rate has tripled since the 1970s while meat consumption has stayed essentially the same (up 19.19kcal, or about a half oz of chicken thighs). The major culprit has been the saturation of fast food, deep frying, etc

I agree with the sustainability, but as the deleterious effects likely won't be seen until after my death and I likely won't have any children, that isn't a moving argument for me.

[Anonymous No.11751812]

>>11751702
When it's part of a diet that includes too much junk food/sugar and overeating, yes.

[Anonymous No.11751829]

>>11751702
most vegafaggots are women. women live longer than men for other reasons. you, vegetarianism, vegans, women and faggots are retarded.

qed

[Anonymous No.11751837]

>>11751788
>If person A and B both pay attention to their nutrition and health, but one is vegetarian and lives longer than the meat eater (or vice versa) then that is very important.
Understood. I thought you were making a different point entirely. Agreed 100%.

>> The problem is the quality of meat
I also agree with that. 100%. But in addition, I do think we eat too much of it as well.

[Anonymous No.11752218]

>>11751714
>because it might be

so what you are saying is you don't know?

[Anonymous No.11752219]

>>11751702
>19% less chance of dying
nigga what

[Anonymous No.11752232]

>>11752219
yeah dude it came from a scientist in a lab, he did an experiment.... god don't you know ANYTHING, anon? maybe you should eat less meat all that cholesterol is clogging up your brain.......

[Anonymous No.11752245]

I consider this a bad thing. I know it sounds mean but I hate old people. Humans simply weren't meant to live for hundreds of years, and they just become a drain on the public tax system...

[Anonymous No.11752314]

>>11752232
>cholesterol is clogging up your brain
You seem to be unaware of the composition of brain tissue...

[Anonymous No.11752316]

>>11751702
> lower risk of death
We wus immortal 'n shiet.

[Anonymous No.11752350]

>>11751702
>what is the healthy user bias

[Anonymous No.11752535]

>>11751702
>tfw can't stop rolling that 19% chance to not die
Feels good bros

[Anonymous No.11752553]

>>11751702
>lower risk of death
>everyone dies
My mother lied to me!!!!

[Anonymous No.11752559]

>>11751702
Compared to standard western diet anything is good for you.

[Anonymous No.11752711]

>>11751702
No.

[Anonymous No.11752717]

>>11751702
>just cause it comes from the sea means it's not meat
Good luck with that mercury and plastic poisoning.

[Anonymous No.11752754]

>>11751702
>19% lower risk of death
What is this even supposed to mean? Everyone dies. Do they supposedly live 19% longer or what?

[Anonymous No.11752841]

>>11751702
Funny how the oldest people in history never gave a shit about what food they ate and most of them smoked and drank regularly.

[Anonymous No.11752865]

>>11751702
Epidemiology suggests red meat, saturated fat, and processed meat are pretty bad. So stick to chicken (even chicken thigh is pretty low in saturated fat) and lean pork.

[Anonymous No.11752873]

>>11751702
Well I don't want to live longer, so I'll just keep doing what I do.

[Anonymous No.11752913]

>>11752232
>19% chance of dying
>not 100% chance of dying
science is amazing

[Anonymous No.11753119]

>yeah I really can't wait to live as long as possible so I can continue enjoying going to a job I hate, get over half of my income taken away as taxes so that my government can continue importing illiterate and violent shitskins in even greater numbers, forcing me to work until I'm at least 85 at which point there will be no pension because the government decided I could live well below the poverty line so I might as well just fucking kill myself

at least I'm not some homo vegan

[Anonymous No.11753145]

>>11753119
Imagine dying, and then one day later they announce VR waifu AIs.
That's why I'm doing a mediterranean diet so I can live as much as possible. Being a vegan isn't that important though, most centenarians I've researched weren't vegans. Watching what you eat IS important however, and processed sugar should definitely go. Fruits, honey and black chocolate are sweet enough for me.

[Anonymous No.11753166]

>>11751702
FISH
IS
MEAT
YOU ABSOLUTR TRIPLE NIGGER

[Anonymous No.11753312]

>vegetarians live longer
I'm here for a good time, not a long time. YOLO

[Anonymous No.11753620]

>19% lower risk of death
>risk of death is ∞%

[Anonymous No.11753670]

>pesco vegetarian
>meat-eating vegetarian

[Anonymous No.11753712]

>>11753670
I'm a pesco pollo ovo lacto carno vegetarian

[Anonymous No.11753887]

>>11752218
That’s exactly what he is saying retard

[Anonymous No.11753938]

Where does donkey meat fit in to all of this?

[Anonymous No.11753948]

>>11751702
WOW I DIDN'T KNOW FISH WAS A VEGETABLE

[Anonymous No.11753976]

>>11751702
I'd rather die than have 81% of being an immortal faggot

[Anonymous No.11753985]

>>11751702
are fish veggies because of their intelligence or because you are fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.11754005]

>>11753938
Dear god I once bought a can of horse meat, it was literally like a can filled with water and red-white chunks of meat that looked like early FPS gore floating around in it.

[Anonymous No.11754021]

Never will I understand why vegans and vegetarians draw the line at fish.

They'll literally bitch and moan parmesan cheese having calf rennet but will eat raw fish

[Anonymous No.11754029]

>>11754021
perhaps you've heard the saying "blessed are those who have voice"

(read: It's easier to antropromorphize mammals)

[Anonymous No.11754055]

>>11754021
>>11753948
Pescaterians are nuts who think they're real vegans because they change the definition of meat. Don't you lump those freaks in with us.

[Anonymous No.11754105]

>>11753938
Do Americans really???
>>11753948
No. Pesco- means fish. Pesco-vegetarian means a person who eats fish and vegetables. Tesco-vegetarian would mean a person who buys his vegetables from Tesco. Tabasco-vegetarian would mean a person who eats his vegetables with Tabasco. I'm sorry. I'm out. Time to go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.11754115]

>>11751702
Extra years as a lonely demented raisin, that sleeps in his own piss&shit because he’s too old and frail to take care of himself? No thank you. Until science invents a humane way to die if I get to live that old, I’d rather die while I still have my brains and body functioning.

[Anonymous No.11754362]

>>11754105
>Do Americans really???
Nah, we just sell it to the Australians.
https://youtu.be/r05XVCa5BJ8?t=865

[Anonymous No.11754363]

>>11751767
If you think animal dung is acceptable fertiliser for industrial-scale agriculture you're sorely mistaken mate

[Anonymous No.11754368]

>>11753712
nice to meet you I'm an owo vegetarian

[Anonymous No.11754379]

>>11751702
Obviously, it's great for you. The pesco-vegetarians eat fish meat and live longer than vegans and vegetarians. How is that not obvious?

[Anonymous No.11754382]

>>11753712
kek

[Anonymous No.11754383]

>>11751711
its like a girl who only has anal sex before marriage

[Anonymous No.11754566]

Sucks but because of my kidney disease I can't really be vegan or vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.11754886]

Idiot

[Anonymous No.11754901]

>>11754566
Sell a defecient kidney to an unsuspecting 1%er, then eat whatever you want in terms of vegetables. Fuck em' if they can't take a joke, right?

[Anonymous No.11754952]

>>11751702
It's very well established that fibre is good for you and vegetables are good for you. That could explain some of the difference.

While less certain, the overall evidence points to saturated fat being bad for you and monounsaturated being good for you. If this is true it would explain why pescotarians live the longest and lacto-ovo vegetarians the shortest.

Finally no study is actually cited so it's possible this image is just made up.

There could also be some other reason such as >>11751714 but I'm not inclined to jump to this conclusion (how long would it have taken to establish that smoking causes cancer if we never took any observational study at face value?).

[Anonymous No.11755077]

>>11751702
No. These studies tend to just show that vegetarians are more health conscious and that's behind their higher life expectancy. If they were to incorporate some meat into their diet, it would have no ill effect. A balanced diet that includes meat is healthy.

[Anonymous No.11755094]

>>11753166
This.
Also pescitariamism is the patricians diet.
Fish oils are good for you.

[Anonymous No.11755119]

>>11753712
Honestly this is unironically the best diet to have. Studies have shown that red meat has been known to give you heart disease and be bad for your digestive system.
No need to cut ALL meat out of your diet unless you're one of those "BUUUT THE ANIMALS" hippies.

[Anonymous No.11755342]

>>11753712
In working towards this. Honestly I'd go full seafood if it was affordable where I live, but for now I have to mix in poultry.

[Anonymous No.11755803]

I litterally don't even care, I'm willing to sacrafice a few years of my life for the flavour of a seared chop of venison.

[Anonymous No.11756349]

>>11751711
pescetarian

[Anonymous No.11756564]

>>11754055
Pesco-vegetarians aren't the ones that look like malnurished aids patients, anon-kun

[Anonymous No.11756621]

>>11751702
>Pesco vegetarians live longer.

Oh so people who are extremely wealthy live longer ?? People who are so rich they can eat insanely expensive wild caught fish every day, along with their milk and cheese and butter and egg live longer???? AMAZING!!!

Vegan propaganda is always amazing I'll admit that.

[Anonymous No.11757545]

>>11756621
Vegetables and grains are super cheap. Many types of seafood are affordable.

[Anonymous No.11757552]

>>11756621
Are you okay? None of what you said follows anything in the OP.

[Anonymous No.11758109]

>>11755803
this. Based and meat-pilled anon.
/thread

[Anonymous No.11759450]

>vegetarian
>a literal fish right there
guess it's okay for vegetarians to lie now?

[Anonymous No.11760386]

>>11759450
Pesco-Vegetarian is Pescatarian. Aka Vegetarian+Seafood. Its a smaller subset of Vegetarians who decided its okay to eat seafood too since they don't have feelings/pain/whatever excuse.

[Anonymous No.11762283]

>>11759450
The brainwashing is strong and people are too afraid of cutting meat entirely

[Anonymous No.11762961]

>>11762283
>wants to cut meat
>calls others brainwashed

[Anonymous No.11763187]

>>11751702
>pic
You're either a vegetarian or you're not. If you eat any kind of meat you're not a vegetarian, you're not a "semi-vegitarian" or "pesco-vegetarian".

No, meat is not bad for you. Maybe the shit quality food at fast food chains is bad for you but it's not just the meat in those cases but also the incredibly disgusting vegetables that can barely be called food. Meat is good for you because it contains almost every vitamin you need and it is very easy for the body to process.

[Anonymous No.11763211]

>>11760386
I would assume they can eat insects too by that logic, right? And possibly some reptiles + very dumb animals.
In reality, fish aren't cute enough to warrant any sympathy. They just have a completely blank stare and funny faces.

[Anonymous No.11763243]

>>11763211
>fish arent cuties
lad....