/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11750508]

“Please do not buy battery eggs. It’s not a good thing... 98% of people can afford free range eggs.”

I won’t lie, I could save less or cut corners elsewhere and buy free range eggs. But I don’t.
I grew up working on weekends and public holidays for $2 an hour, even being driven by an employer an hour+ to shovel shit out of the cages of these birds to be used as fertiliser on his tomato farm.

What I remember is that they were well fed and did fuck all (admittedly not by choice) everyday except eat, drink and shit. Were the conditions horrible? Well the plague proportions of mice and rats living in their shit below their cages thought it was fucking sweet.
I for one don’t feel guilty about it eating the produce of their labour. The government you pay your taxes to don’t, either. But they will happily take the extra taxes you pay for buying free range eggs.
I can honestly say after seeing them first hand, the chickens didn’t seem to give a shit either way. The difference between them and the ‘free range’ chickens I had at home is that the ones in cages don’t get to go ‘roost’ at night, aka sleep off the ground.
Literally 0% of caged chickens ever go on a hunger strike. Same as the mice and rats who live in their shit below their cages. Actually, they find it so appealing they fuck all day breeding more and more.
If mice like those conditions so much they choose to live there, who is to say the chickens wouldn’t choose that life over living outside being hunted as food by most anything, when their option is to be caged up, safe, with an unlimited supply of food and drink. I mean isn’t this the life of most humans but we have to leave one cage for another most every day to work for our food and drink.

[Anonymous No.11750518]

Huh?

[Anonymous No.11750531]

>>11750518
City folk detected.
Sorry, just felt like a bit of a rant after seeing jamie rant in about how we are scum of the earth for buying ‘caged eggs’ and then in almost the very next sentence tell us to buy his overpriced cookbook printed on unrecycled paper very likely from trees harvested from the amazon or another cheap source of trees being cut down contributing to global warming.

[Anonymous No.11750575]

>>11750531
He rants about shit that fits his public profile, taking notice of "celebrities" is what the Jews want you to do.

[Anonymous No.11750603]

>>11750575
Only 3 posts in and already it’s (((them))),
Is /ck/ the new /pol/?

[Anonymous No.11750619]

Why do people think chickens have feelings?

[Anonymous No.11750623]

>>11750531
Eh?

[Anonymous No.11750626]

While I'm not going to say I agree nor disagree with you I just want to say that bringing up mice and rats is fairly irrelevant to your point. That's like saying "yeah keeping children in sewers is fine all the cockroaches i see are enjoying themselves so what's the difference?" (on a less hyperbolic level obviously). The mice and rats aren't chickens, and it's fairly common knowledge that mice and rats are scavengers by nature. They'll naturally thrive in filth and any environment where anything edible is plentiful. Am I saying chickens won't live in similar conditions? I wouldn't know, but I'm just saying you're forcing a coincidence as a correlation which just makes for an awkward argument.

[Anonymous No.11750630]

>>11750619
I use to have a chicken as a pet
they do have feelings and get exited when you pet them
my aunt had a farm
I got overly attached to one and then one time when I was eating chicken my aunt said it was the chicken I was attached to
I cried, but man it was delicious
Point being, animals have feelings, just dont get attached to the popular edible ones

[Anonymous No.11750636]

>>11750531
Some of his cookbooks are printed on recycled, i'm not sure if all cause he has like 20 of them and it varies region to region depending on the publisher

[Anonymous No.11750638]

>>11750630
No they don't. They're fucking evil bugs with feathers who's only goal is to eat, shit, and fuck.
t.raised chickens as a child

[Anonymous No.11750657]

>>11750630
I too had chicks as oets growing up. I was 7 or 8 at the time. To this day (28 now) I remember this very well.
My mother bought them as babies (all boys) as they would have been killed I guess.
I was young so I loved letting them out of their cage every day and take them around our garden looking for worms.
They thought I was their mum and as pathetic as it sounds I enjoyed it, taking them out daily after school and feeding them, and I tell you, they loved me and I loved them... part two incoming...

[Anonymous No.11750668]

>>11750630
>>11750657
You're anthropomorphizing a creature incapable of affection, like a lizard or a snake.

[Anonymous No.11750686]

>>11750668
Seeing as you know so much, ... Do they also have them feels or not?

[Anonymous No.11750691]

>>11750686
No. They're reactionary beings governed by instinct, not logic, reason, or emotions.

[Anonymous No.11750742]

>>11750691
I am saddened to read your post.
Your parent/s raped you how many times/ why?

[Anonymous No.11750743]

>>11750603
It is ever since the vegans came here and gayed out

[Anonymous No.11750747]

>>11750508
Free range eggs have a distinct superior taste as compared to caged eggs. The fact that youre saving 2 dollars does not hide your stupidity.

[Anonymous No.11750762]

>>11750638
Lmao pot chicken

[Anonymous No.11750813]

>>11750657
>They thought I was their mum and as pathetic as it sounds I enjoyed it, taking them out daily after school and feeding them

same here, good times

>>11750668
I believe some animals have the capacity to feel affection, mostly mammals but some birds do exhibit this as well, like parrots and crows. The chicken is probably the least capable and stupidest animals seeing as how they have been bred for consumption.
Still, they're cute and I like to think that to some degree, no matter how small, they can still feel. Obviously not emotion on the same level we can, but something familiar of fear and pleasure.

[Anonymous No.11750875]

>>11750508
ducks are a superior bird with superior eggs.

[Anonymous No.11750884]

>>11750508
>I could save less or cut corners elsewhere and buy free range eggs. But I don’t.

free range costs 2.70 where I live compared to 2.20 for non-free range for a dozen. You don't need to cut a lot of corners to save 50 cents a week.

[Anonymous No.11750921]

I'd even buy organic eggs if they didn't taste like ass. I guess it's the food they give the chickens.

[Anonymous No.11750927]

Why would anyone care about the living conditions of chickens?

[Anonymous No.11750975]

>>11750927
because it is still food you eat

[Anonymous No.11750998]

>>11750531
this is a tipical problem people face when they think how to behave ethically in life (most people don't really think about it today)

the thing is, buying free range eggs is hypocrital and useless, because the world is shit and there are million other things i could/should do to try and solve the problems it has. not only that, but wether i actually do it or not is completely irrelevant since i'm just a droplet in an ocean of people buying battery eggs (or whatever the real world problem/injustice is) so it doesn't really matter whatever i do. there is also another argument, like, if i really cared about those chikens i should do some activism or something. i mean they are billions of them living not just like cattle, but in torture. same as if you really cared for children in africa, you wouldn't donate 20$ a month, you would sell everything you have for them, and go help them build hospitals or whatever. these people are dieing. or don't donate blood (woah you might have saved a life with that great job bud), the ethical choice is to kill yourself and donate your organs, saving many. or at least, donate one kidney, you don't even die this way. shouldn't you do this?

[Anonymous No.11751004]

>>11750998
so one might say here fuck it, and just forget about it and conveniently buy the cheapest thing in the market and that requires less work on my part (in the eu, you have to look at the number printed on the egg and that tells you in what conditions it was raised). so VERY CONVENIENTLY for myself, the most ethical choice, is also the one that requires me to expend less money and time in my daily life to implement it. here is where, if you are not a selfish self-centered asshole incapable of self-reflection raised in the dystopian nightmare that we live in, you would suspect that you might in fact not be biased and examine what you are doing, and recognize that the only way you can help solve this type of problems is to not be a part of them, and that means taking the time to look at the fucking number in the egg every day at the supermarket and paying that extra 50cents or whatever, and giving 50c every day at the tramp outside, and not buying products made by little slave kids in taiwan, and supporting your local community. and this is a fuckton of efford, time and money, and i think this is why sloth (laziness) was considered one of the worst sins

because if you do the right things, it doesn't really change anything, you are just a droplet in the ocean, but the ocean is made out of droplets. the only way to change the ocean is to change the fucking droplets in it (putting bombs and so on doesn't really work on top of other problems). so change yourself, and spread the message somewhat, and that's how the problems get solved, or at least that's how you are a good person

[Anonymous No.11751227]

>>11750747
You do realise free range you buy in the store are not actually free range right?

[Anonymous No.11751323]

>>11750508
Alright OP that's your opinion. Mine is different.

I buy free range eggs for two reasons. One is because I eat the yolks raw and the free range eggs are healthier for me.

Two is because I'll pay double or so, if I'm paying for the chickens to have a better life, a cozy outdoor life. Same goes for the grass fed cows I pay for.

[Anonymous No.11751346]

>>11750638
>only goal is to eat, shit, and fuck
You're saying you have other goals?

[Anonymous No.11751477]

>>11750884
Here it is is $1.80 or $3.90 so it is a no brainer.

[Anonymous No.11751503]

>>11751346
Rekt.
But I suppose the chickens need to shit out eggs every day which is like giving birth 2.0
I mean no joke that’s gotta hurt.

[Anonymous No.11751562]

>>11750508
You are talking utter and absolute and complete shit OP.
Jamie cares for people.
He even flew to the piece of shit they call America to try and help their children.
What have you done in your life to HELP people?
Please just go die.

[Anonymous No.11751571]

>>11750508
>for one don’t feel guilty about it eating the produce of their labour.

I don't either. But free range eggs taste a fuck of a lot better so that makes the decision pretty fucking clear. BTW, I mean truly free-ranging chickens, not ones that meet the legal definition of "cage free"


>>11751562
>>He even flew to the piece of shit they call America to promote his new cookbook and make money
I fixed that for you, foolio.

[Anonymous No.11751576]

>>11751323
>One is because I eat the yolks raw and the free range eggs are healthier for me.
post the studies that prove free range yolks are any better for your health than caged. im waiting.

[Anonymous No.11751588]

>>11751576
There are no studies on that so you have to go on instincts mate.

What is healthier, chickens that eat bugs and their natural food outside, or chickens in Auschwitz farms eating chemical sludge and their own poop?

[Anonymous No.11751590]

>>11751576
Do be such a cunt. Have you never heard of placebo? Let the niglet have his day.

[Anonymous No.11751608]

>>11751588
>Chemical sludge
The ‘free range’ chickens are fed the same shit unless they get lucky and the odd bug fall in their slightly larger cage.
How are you even able to breathe, being this fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.11752203]

>>11750657
Where is part 2 ?

[Anonymous No.11752475]

>>11751576
>>11751323
To say free rang is healthier suggests the embryo would then grow into a healthier chick or at the very least, the embryo of the cages chickens egg would grow to be deformed or die before breaking out of its egg.
If that happens I believe you.
I hope that doesn’t happen.
Fuck, that doesn’t happen, does it?
Come to think of it, the shells of caged eggs is mighty thin. I doubt it could hold the embryo until conception.
Fuck, I am buying free range from now on.

[Anonymous No.11752486]

>>11752475
>until conception
>until
This is quite likely the dumbest thing I have ever read here and I almost consider myself an old fag.

[Anonymous No.11752539]

>>11752203
Incoming

[Anonymous No.11752583]

>>11750508
How old are you if you were paid $2 an hour as a teenager?

[Anonymous No.11752605]

>>11750619
birds are intelligent creatures that are able to feel companionship, just because they don't have facial expressions doesn't mean they wont feel anything.

[Anonymous No.11752622]

>>11752605
Da fuq u just say?

[Anonymous No.11752707]

>>11752605
They really do which became obvious when I started keeping backyard chickens. Each have different personalities which you can begin to observe even when they're chicks and some become downright affectionate with you.

[Anonymous No.11752718]

>>11752707
I never liked the bossy one.

[Julie Andrews No.11752840]

>>11752622
birbs are awesome

[Anonymous No.11752858]

I buy a box of 12 large free range eggs from the corner shop for £2 that are often covered in shit.

When I buy the caged hens eggs from Tesco they are horrible when cooked.

The problem is egg producers will claim to treat chickens well but there's been cases of them being mistreated and living in filth. You really can't trust anyone.

Just find some eggs you like and thats it.

[Anonymous No.11752953]

>>11752858
The caged eggs from tesco taste no different to the eggs iv eaten from the chickens my dad keeps on his allotment, in fact the caged eggs are often more consistent since their diet isnt contantly fluctuating. Youre talking out of your arse, if i blindfolded you and fed you a caged egg vs free range you would never know the difference, youre just one of those people who likes to pretend theyre getting a better product by paying more, much like people who claim supermarket meat tastes any different to the meat from the butchers, butchers may be fresher, but in every other way there is no discernible difference, again a blindfolded test would prove it. If so called wine experts cant even tell the difference between wines when blindfolded a bunch everyday gimps certainly wont be able to tell the difference between eggs / meat.

[Anonymous No.11752983]

>>11750531
Thats the thing, hes a celebrity, nothing else. Literally nothing he has to say has any value irl, because all he his is a tv personality and its perfectly safe to dismiss anything that comes out of his mouth, in the same way you ignore the person reading the news.

[Anonymous No.11752987]

You know how in the US every other """licensed nutritionist""" is some bleach blonde chick who is at least 30lbs overweight? Fatboy Oliveoil is the UK's version of that. What a joke.

[Anonymous No.11753003]

>>11752953
You got me all wrong. I buy my eggs from my corner shop where I get my booze. I've no place to act superior. My point was to find eggs you like and don't worry. I explained I did not enjoy the Tesco caged eggs is all.

Who are you, the egg police?

[Anonymous No.11753112]

>>11753003
Not sure what’s worse, the fact that I had to google it or how many hits I got.

[Anonymous No.11754546]

>>11750657
>>11752203
Sorry, I passed out after a busy work week.
Part two:
>be chick
>be loving life
>be let out for my fav time of day - big ass weird looking mom gonna dig up some joocy af worms for myself and the crew to eat.
CRACK*
>oh fuck dumb ass little girl you just stepped on my leg
>fuck me now I can’t walk bc it’s pointing the wrong way

I was <10 at the time and the poor little guy was <2weeks old when he had a massively broken leg. Fuck I was mad at my little sister but she was <5. I didn’t know about splints at the time and my mother didn’t teach me nor care enough. Poor little guy hobbled around in pain, but I fed him the most and carried him as much as possible.i loved him the most. I tried to take him to my room to sleep and heal but my mother said no. Did it anyway and got the strap from dad. Did it for 3 days in a row, until they stopped bc of the bruises but let me go out every night to say goodnight to him and see he’s ok.
They got big and ugly and smelly fast so the feeding them as if I was their mom died off after a few months. God it was a fun experience though and damn they are cute as chicks.
I recall having to de-feather them after killing them. I didn’t cry bc we were poor and protein. It was weird thinking how I should feel bad but I didn’t.
Then I ate a leg and there was this huge spherical bulge in the middle of the drumstick where the bone had somehow grown over and healed.
Fuck me if that isn’t the most I ever cried.
I didn’t eat chicken after that until I was about 12 when my mother tricked me about what it was and I said it was great.

[Anonymous No.11754583]

>>11750508
The most important thing to take away from this thread is that you never listen to a celebrity. He was just spewing bs while cooking. Probably nervous talk bc needs to be talking always.
It’s about as credible as if you listen to gordo rams, and he’s the biggest joke there is. Case in point:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXo1cvZ83I
What a fucking joke. It was clearly his first time doing this but nigger please?

[Anonymous No.11754584]

>>11751576
You don't need studies, just look at how happy the chickens are in the adverts, they're roaming free, awwww they're so cute!

[Anonymous No.11754606]

>>11751004
Every bit helps anon, i can't beliefe you are to stupid to understand that

[Anonymous No.11754940]

>>11754606
>to stupid
>to
I fucking hate being a fag grammar nazi. Don’t bait me you dumb fuk

[Anonymous No.11755083]

>>11754583
This isnt even a Mille Feuille
Even the title is spelt wrong
Goddammit Ramsay

And how are you supposed to eat that

[Anonymous No.11755162]

>>11755083
Drugs. You are on it.

[Anonymous No.11755218]

some factory eggs taste bad, some taste good. More often good than not.

However, there's an acreage near me that sells eggs for $2.50/dozen. They are always good, without exception.

You'd have to be extremely poor to not be able to afford non-anemic eggs. I'm not even talking about animal cruelty or anything. If I had a choice between factory eggs and no eggs I'd choose the factory. But OP isn't wrong when he said farm eggs are not much more expensive unless you live in a concrete jungle 300 miles from any locally-sourced food.

[Anonymous No.11755459]

>>11751004
you're really stupid

[Anonymous No.11755691]

>>11755459
*your

[Anonymous No.11755696]

Is the eggs autist the same poster as the crock pot autist?

[Anonymous No.11755735]

I like jamie and all but telling us we are not good people for buying certain foods.
Feels like a vegan ranting desu.

[Anonymous No.11756650]

>>11755162
No you are on drugs

[Anonymous No.11756926]

>>11751004
>>11750998
>t. Selfish trash

[Anonymous No.11757433]

>>11754606
did you even read my post? that was my point, maybe my rambling was too incoherent

[Anonymous No.11757570]

>>11754546
Good story, that was sad