/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11745513]

What sort of benefits would I get from a vegan diet?

[Anonymous No.11745514]

you get to live rent free in the minds of 95% of /ck/ posters

[Anonymous No.11745515]

>>11745513
Vaginas all over your body

[Anonymous No.11745547]

>>11745513
GIVE ME THE BIG VERSION OF THIS IMAGE

[Anonymous No.11746180]

>>11745513
>What sort of benefits would I get from a vegan diet?
- Contributing to evolving humanity to the next level
- a higher moral ground (not the highest though, since basically everything humans produce and consume is based on animal suffering and death)
- not being a weakling bitch that needs to literally feed on the weak and helpless
- supposedly reduced risks of a ton of gastric and vascular diseases
- supposed weight loss
- less body fat %
among other things

But let's be real. You may try it for a few weeks, then you'll either cry because your taste system is so numb from decades of ingesting over-saturated animal fats and 'nothing tastes good' to you anymore or some shit, OR: the classic variant of you getting health problems, feeling ill and weak because you blindly assumed that you can just stop eating meat without learning about nutrition or cooking and thus live on fiber and wheat protein like a cow, which renders you cancer patient-tier.

Don't worry carni, they're already working on lab-grown meat for you.

[Anonymous No.11746199]

>>11745514
You have it backwards. You're starting a free gated community for /ck/.

[Anonymous No.11746340]

>>11746180
>a higher moral ground (not the highest though, since basically everything humans produce and consume is based on animal suffering and death)
This is one of the things preventing me from adopting veganism. It seems to me that if you believe it's wrong to cause unnecessary suffering and death, then you are morally obligated to commit suicide. Under this mindset life itself becomes absurd..

[Anonymous No.11746342]

>>11745514
>impliying>>11746180

[Anonymous No.11746352]

>>11745513
It makes cocks much more palatable

[Anonymous No.11746363]

>>11745513
>13% higher testosterone levels than meat-eaters
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf

[Anonymous No.11746392]

>>11745513
>b12 deficiency and related symptoms
>muscle atrophy
>rotting teeth
>severe autism
>brain damage
>bitch tits
>0 energy
>estrogen overload
>and more
Go ahead, try it. Be like every other virtue signaler who does irreparable damage to their one and only body because "buh buh muh animals got killed :((((("

[Anonymous No.11746397]

>another vegan thread

[based and redditpilled No.11746451]

you get bragging rights on r/vegan

[Anonymous No.11746465]

>>11745513
Sucking on ding dongs becomes less of a chore, even enjoyable

[Anonymous No.11746473]

>>11746363
>SHBG was significantly higher in the vegans than in the meat-eaters, leading to a corresponding increase in T in order to maintain constant levels of FT
>SHBG was significantly higher in the vegans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone-binding_globulin
>Testosterone and estradiol circulate in the bloodstream...SHBG inhibits the function of these hormones.
>SHBG levels are usually about twice as high in women than in men.
>High estrogen and thyroxine levels cause it to increase.
>SHBG levels increase with estrogenic states
>At puberty the SHBG level halves in girls and goes down to a quarter in boys.
vegans have the same amount of free testosterone that can actually do anything but also higher levels of SHBG which are normally higher in women.

[Anonymous No.11746474]

>>11746363
>Lower sample size
It's not that hard desu

[Anonymous No.11746749]

>>11746340
>Under this mindset life itself becomes absurd..
It is. This contradiction isnt why vegans are mentally ill - their mental illness was a precondition for veganism. The reason vegans dont have a higher suicide rate is their veganism gives them affirmation for their narcissism. By claiming moral superiority for something that is obviously and logically insane and therefore repellent to most people, vegans maintain the exclusivity to their cult necessary to feed that narcissism. Normal people do things that make them feel self worth, narcissists know they are morally destitute so attempt to extort affirmation from others through the morality con.
tl;dr veganism is one big circle jerk for narcissists who fantasize about being good people, but arent willing to actually be good people.

[Anonymous No.11746757]

>>11745513
Nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psSUxplABHk

[Anonymous No.11746779]

>>11745513
you reduce the suffering of animals and enjoy the benefits of having a free conscience

[Anonymous No.11746786]

>>11746779
You can also do that by hunting and killing the animals yourself.

[Anonymous No.11746840]

>>11745547

[Anonymous No.11746853]

>>11745513
Your dick will get harder in the absense of so much fat and your ldl will drop like a stone if you make a point of going as low fat as possible aside from modest fat from beans and nuts. Thats about all I noticed for the year or so I was on it. Backed to based pescetarianism with mostly local fish albiet at smaller portions and the occasional burger.

[Anonymous No.11746857]

you get to be a pretentious cunt

[Anonymous No.11746943]

>>11745513
>>11746180
>>11746397
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

[Anonymous No.11746947]

>>11746180
>supposedly reduced risks of a ton of gastric and vascular diseases
>Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease." "The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades." "The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI.
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/
>http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat
>http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
>https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-heal

[Anonymous No.11746951]

>>11746180
>cancer patient-tier.
>>11746947
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2011/12/devil-in-feeding-trough-pge-response-to.html?m=1
>https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/

[Anonymous No.11746956]

>>11746947
>>11746951
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2016/10/latest-study-shows-that-33-gkg-high.html
>http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127
>https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

[Anonymous No.11747001]

>>11746956

[Anonymous No.11747041]

>>11747001
found the fag
>>>/hm/ is that way

[Anonymous No.11747047]

>>11747041
Youre taking advice from a manlet who isent man enough to openly roid.

[Anonymous No.11747180]

>>11746749
>breaking my keyboard to affirm vegans are better than me

[Anonymous No.11747188]

>>11746943
Nobody has ever read those because they are blog articles, idiot

[Anonymous No.11747202]

You'll lose weight by lowering sperm count. Excess baggage if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.11747206]

>>11746956
>>11746951
>>11746947
>being fat
>quoting reddit
Enjoy dying of heart disease after spending all your money on health care

[Anonymous No.11747930]

>>11746340
So according to your logic, it is worthless trying to contribute anything to better society? If everyone would live like this, humans would go back to murdering and raping each other and steal their resources. (which is arguably still the case, kek)

>>11746363
>>11746392
>>11746749
>>11746857
>>11746943
>>11746947
>>11746951
>>11746956
>>11747041
Won't even read any of that shit. Science is worthless. For reference, I am a research assistant PhD applicant in a medical institution and see shit like this day in and day out. Maybe 5% of science is worthwhile, the rest is all sponsored propaganda, publications for the sheer sake of publicizing and brain dead blabber.

I've been vegan for over a decade and I can assure you the majority of those vegans who are malnourished or show other symptoms are this way because they are idiots. Plain and simple.

Rule #1: Learn about nutrition. A LOT!
Rule #2: Spend money on actual food.
Rule #3: Spend time on preparing said food.

If you don't have the resources or capability to learn, buy consciously and cook, don't be vegan.

[Anonymous No.11748096]

>>11747041
>huh I wonder what /hm/ is
>first thread I see is fully grown men in diapers
>close tab

[Anonymous No.11748111]

>>11747202
Vegans have 13% higher total testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/

There is no studies to suggest lower sperm count, only lower volume or density

[Anonymous No.11748115]

>>11748111
I'm a fellow veganfag, but still: keep that shit to yourself. As I've already stated, 'science' is 95% bullshit. These people are easily bought and their 'science' is merely spitting into a test tube and see what happens. This goes for both sides of the discussion.

[Anonymous No.11748120]

>>11748115
>As I've already stated, 'science' is 95% bullshit
Nobody cares what you say, dumbass

[Anonymous No.11748170]

>>11747930
>research assistant PhD applicant
>too dumb to realize he's on an anonymous mongolian oceanography forum
>thinks he isnt confirming every stereotype about vegan malnutrition

[Anonymous No.11748332]

>>11745513
It will bring you closer to the Earth..

[Anonymous No.11748377]

>>11745513
If you are overweight, well, as a raw vegan that's not going to be a problem in your future....

[Anonymous No.11748399]

>>11745513
homosexuality

[Anonymous No.11748402]

>>11745513
You get to tell everyone you're a vegan. Other vegans will be impressed.
You'll lose lots of weight due to struggling to get enough calories in, all good and well if you sit on your ass all day in a cubicle.
Your shit won't even smell, you can let out massive farts and no one will notice.
You can feel warm fuzzies thinking you're reducing suffering in nature.
You get to act like a complete in any meat based thread.

[Anonymous No.11748418]

>>11748402
I eat 500g of beans everyday and your lying :(

[Anonymous No.11748427]

>>11745513
Larger male breasts

[Anonymous No.11748435]

>>11747180
So if everyone becomes a vegan and we stop farming animals what will happen to the farming land? Will demand for cropping land increase or decrease?

If you really want to save the planet then stop breeding and stop encouraging the third world to migrate into countries that were naturally reducing their pop

[Anonymous No.11748440]

>>11748435
>theres lots of farmland

>therefore the only solution is to continue to mass slaughter

[Anonymous No.11748467]

>>11746180
>Go carnivore
>Literally eat anything for 10 years be fine

>Go vegan
>Literally eat anything for 10 years fucking die

What gives?

[Anonymous No.11748517]

>>11748440
That's not the point I was making.
You were arguing with your picture (and I always see vegheads bring it up) that so much land is used to farm animals or that so many crops are grown for farmed animals.
Even if everyone stopped eating the animals, we'd still need the farmland. People still have to eat

[Anonymous No.11748532]

>>11748440
veganism is mass slaughter idiot. Yes of animals. Blood is on your hands

http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

[Anonymous No.11748547]

>>11748517
Cows are pastured on land unsuitable for intensive vegetables farming. So if and when meat is outlawed, much much more forest will have to be cleared, so support the massive demand for vegetables and fruits.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

Vegans give absolutely zero fucks about that of course.

[Anonymous No.11749780]

>>11748532
>>11748547
I eat meat gladly and don't give a fuck, but the people in here implying veganism causes more animal suffering and environmental damage than eating meat are straight retarded. Animals don't just eat air.

[Anonymous No.11750072]

>>11749780
Pasture grazing cows eat ........... Grass!!
Did they steal that grass from your plate?? I doubt it.

All the soundbites and memes from Veganism ONLY compare veganites with factory farmed animals, Veganism agenda shills never like to mention grass fed cows, because vegans themselves kill far more animals than me.

For example pesticides. Vegans pay for tons of pesticides to be dumping on animals.

I eat grass fed beef and lamb, therefore I fund ZERO pesticides ever.

Veganites kill 25x more animals than I do. one cow per year for me, the end. (Vegans kill millions of rabbits, squirrels, lizards, snakes, and other small animals with their pesticides alone)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

[Anonymous No.11750225]

>>11750072
I went out to a vegan place and half the menu was had jackfruit as a meat substitute.
By their logic it is better to ship a tropical fruit halfway across the globe than it me for me to drive an hour and shoot an animal or eat eggs from my chickens.
Fuck their simplistic black and white world view.

[Anonymous No.11750268]

>>11750072
>hurrr durrr land is never cleared for cows
>hurrr durrr grass never gets treated
>hurrr durrr no other animals inhabit grass
>hurrr durr grass fed is a remotely regulated term

One giant strawman. Your article literally has nothing to do with any bullshit youre spouting. Its some dumbasses opinion piece.

Youll find that any study that says “vegans kill 6 billion!!!” is a fudged study based on animal displacement and wrongly assumes equal amounts of land mean equal amounts of food
http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc

But I suppose you need to strawman all you can to continue the victim complex

[Anonymous No.11750272]

>>11745513
"moral superiority"

[Anonymous No.11750295]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167880904002944
Oh would you look at that? The rodents didn’t get grinded up or nothing. They just fucking moved

https://sdaos.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/2002/39-45.pdf
Would you look at that? Mice aren’t paraplegic lemmings

[Anonymous No.11750327]

>>11748547
So this guy is just clearly full of shit right?
https://onpasture.com/2018/09/17/can-cover-crops-and-rotational-grazing-extend-your-grazing-season/

>So if and when meat is outlawed, much much more forest will have to be cleared,
Or you know, you reappropiate the land that grows cattle feed for human consumption, but don’t try thinking it’ll hurt!!!

[Anonymous No.11750335]

>>11745513
None unless you're currently eating Mcdonalds everyday.
If you're concerned about your health just follow common sense and follow something like a mediterranean diet.

[Anonymous No.11750605]

>>11745513
a large majority of vegans are female, so you might meet girls

[Anonymous No.11750611]

Just watch these videos and you will get the idea if it's healthy or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ&t=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

[Anonymous No.11750717]

>>11750605
They all end up female after a while

[Anonymous No.11751217]

>>11750225
Exactly. Some farmer plowing over a rainforest in Thailand to make a farm for that crap?? No problem for Vegans!! Fuck the animals who used to love there!!

[Anonymous No.11751234]

An interesting thing I read relating to the environmental effects of different diets was that if everyone converted to a vegan diet, there could be between 25-55% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture (agriculture itself constitutes 25% of global greenhouse gas emissions).

On the flip side, a vegetarian diet would reduce them by 20-35%, which seems like a good result for a less drastic dietary change. And even more so, 20-35% reduction was also forecast as achievable by cutting out cows and sheep whilst continuing to farm chickens and pigs. Cows and sheep are ruminants, having multiple stomachs and a special digestive system that creates much more greenhouse gas. Chicken and pigs don't, and are much better in this regard.

[Anonymous No.11751353]

>>11750268
>>hurrr durrr land is never cleared for cows

It is, but not for me. If Brazil is chopping down the Amazon to feed Chinese hogs, this is not my fault, but I see you put it in my plate. I guess being disengenuous and deceiving is required for Veganism propagandists.

>>hurrr durrr grass never gets treated

Natural grassland needs none, or very very close to none chemical pesticides or insecticides ever, unlike your vegan farms which get tons and tons of chemical pesticides and chemical fertilizers every year. Good thing vegans don't give a fuck about animals or that might bother them.

>>hurrr durrr no other animals inhabit grass

They do, and cows don't kill them, and the ranchers don't kill them with pesticides unlike veganites farmers who conduct a genocide of small animals on the vegetables farms. (No probem for Vegans, fuck animals lol!!!)

>>hurrr durr grass fed is a remotely regulated term

You stupid nigger, what regulations do you need to know grassland is grass?? Is your IQ above 70?

http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

[Anonymous No.11751357]

>>11750327
>Or you know, you reappropiate the land that grows cattle feed for human consumption, but don’t try thinking it’ll hurt!!!

This shows that you have a very shallow knowledge of how cows and human are fed. Cows eat hay, grass, silage and when cows eat "corn" it usually means they eat the entire corn stalks.

Are you going to eat grass, hay, silage and corn stalks? No? Then you are going to have to plow over millions of acres of forests to produce your perfect avocados that you do eat... if you force everyone to go vegan.

Good thing veganites Don't give a fuck about animals or the environment or that might bother them.

[Anonymous No.11751359]

>>11751234
>agriculture itself constitutes 25% of global greenhouse gas emissions

A complete and total lie. What else do you lie about vegan??? (The answer is- everything)

http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

[Anonymous No.11752755]

>>11750605
>you might meet girls (male)