ANCIENT FOODS

[Anonymous No.11730286]

No not paleo meme shit but what were ancient food our ancestors ate?

Also has anyone smoked their own wine?

[Anonymous No.11730292]

>>11730286
Why is so little modern wine interesting. No one ever tries anything cool like they do with spirits and beer

[Anonymous No.11730295]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeVcey0Ng-w

in medieval times peasants ate salmon apparently

[Anonymous No.11730831]

>>11730286
Garum

[Anonymous No.11730925]

>>11730295
>Peasants ate fish that were found in rivers.
Fascinating!

[Anonymous No.11730954]

>>11730295
poor people also used to eat lobster because it was shitty bycatch

[Anonymous No.11731041]

>>11730286
Whatever was available in their locale

[Anonymous No.11731056]

>>11730925
>Nobody ever thanks the magna cararta for the ability to eat fish from the rivers
Feels bad bros.

[Anonymous No.11731072]

>>11730286
Ancient grains.

[Anonymous No.11731135]

>>11730286
>Lil Herodotus
>sunglasses
Wow, am I sure glad this ancient, historical civilization has been digested and reformed to be presented in a way that appeals to my generational sensibilities! History is fucking LIT!

[Anonymous No.11731150]

>>11730286
Romans had some kind of gatorade that was full in potassium and other electrolytes

[Anonymous No.11731161]

>>11731150
I think it was lead.

[Anonymous No.11731175]

Let’s mix grains with water and leave it until it smells funny and then throw it in the oven.

[Anonymous No.11731180]

>>11731135
calm down

[Anonymous No.11731184]

>>11730286
house smoked wine will be the next big hipster bartending trend

[Anonymous No.11731240]

>>11731161
It's what plebs crave

[Anonymous No.11731246]

>>11730292
Because of french snobs.

[Anonymous No.11731519]

>>11730286
look up the "apicius" it's full of roman recipes. theres a lot of exotic meats there as well

[Anonymous No.11731654]

>>11730292
>anything cool like they do with spirits and beer
Yeh great, I can hardly wait what mericunt "ingenuity" comes up with. Triple hopped wine? Celery infusion? Bacon flavor? The possibilities.

[Anonymous No.11731656]

>>11731654
Soybean wine.

[Anonymous No.11731777]

>>11730292
Is there a wine scene in your country that matches french vins naturels/vins nature? Small batches from hardcore winemakers avoiding the use of chemicals on their vineyards and in their wine.

Very unconventional, the actual opposite of mainstream. A lot of aromatic overtones and also a fair share of crappy wines.

[Anonymous No.11731779]

>>11730286
>well in Rome

[Anonymous No.11731811]

Farro is technically an ancient grain right? I think farro is awesome, it's really tasty.

[Anonymous No.11731889]

>>11730286
If I remember correctly, Roman wine was also so strong that you had to water it down, and had a lead-based sweetener in it.

[Anonymous No.11731942]

>>11731889
>If I remember correctly, Roman wine was also so strong that you had to water it down
And you’d be wrong.

[Anonymous No.11731953]

>>11731889
That's not even possible. Wine only ferments to a maximum of around 20% alcohol. Beyond that it is impossible to make because the alcohol kills the yeast producing it. If you want to get higher ABV you have to start doing some science tricks, like distillation via heat or freezing.

It was common to serve watered-down wine, but it wasn't because the "wine was so strong that it HAD to be watered down". It was no stronger than the wine we have today because fermentation hasn't exactly changed.

Lead-based sweeteners? That was a thing, yes.

[Anonymous No.11731991]

>>11731240
Under appreciated comment

[Anonymous No.11732217]

>>11731654
Why does people experimenting bother you? You don't have to try it much less yet anally fissured over it either.

[Anonymous No.11732761]

>>11731889
Mingling wine into water was done to improve potability of nasty water

[Anonymous No.11732790]

>>11731135
I'm sorry you're autistic

[Anonymous No.11732801]

>>11730286
I picked up the idea that they used to drink wine all the time since clean water was kind of iffy
How could they accomplish anything with drinking wine all day?

[Anonymous No.11732854]

>>11730295
this video is not a good representation of an everyday meal

[Anonymous No.11732860]

>>11732801
They couldn't. That's why the enlightenment only kicked off when people switched to coffee and tea.

[Anonymous No.11733129]

>>11732801
Of course there was clean water available, just no ways or complete understanding on how to clean dirty water. If there was a clear spring or a stream they used that water. Otherwise they mostly drank wine.

[Anonymous No.11733141]

>>11731135
its interesting information wrapped in a cringy millenial layer

[Anonymous No.11733154]

>>11730286
I've had smokey wine before, it's delicious.

[Anonymous No.11733173]

>>11730292
there's a wine that tastes like grass, it's good, "saint chapel"

[Anonymous No.11733174]

>>11731654
triple hoppy microbrewery wine

[Anonymous No.11733177]

>>11730286
honey, fig cakes, dates, unleavened bread. I found a book once that had a bunch of recipes that people from back in the bible days ate. It was quite interesting.

[Anonymous No.11733213]

>>11731654
>he doesn't like Imperial Double Maple Bacon Dry-Hopped Cabernet
I'll have you know I brew my own, bucko, and have the highest comment karma on /r/wine

[Anonymous No.11733214]

>>11731654
Imagine being angry at the idea that America MIGHT make something you disapprove of

[Anonymous No.11733227]

>>11733177
De re coquinaria?

[Anonymous No.11733296]

>>11732801
A bit of alcoholic drinks would be mixed into water so it ends up being like 1-2% ABV. Extremely common everywhere before very recently. Same with beer in other regions.

[Anonymous No.11733306]

>>11730286
pic related is pretty close, tastes breddy gud

[Anonymous No.11733318]

>>11731150
I think it's just called semen, anon

[Anonymous No.11733330]

>>11733214
R E N T F R E E

in all seriousness, though, hopped wine would piss me the fuck off

[Anonymous No.11733364]

>>11730286
Romans also used to flavor vinegar by stirring it vigorously in huge lead vats. It produced a sweet, tangy beverage.

[Anonymous No.11733478]

A lot of ancient civilization especially china used to eat millet, a bland grain
Then they switched to rice eventually

European peasants ate bread and dipped it in salted water, which is how soup was created. They'd eat shitty wild vegetables and plants too

Almost nobody ever ate meat except nobility because livestock was the the revenue source of peasants and nobility kept forest wildlife for themselves

Tomato and corn was exclusive to America and wasn't used in Europe till late renaissance

Romans used a fish sauce called garum and nuoc mam is the closest flavour

[Anonymous No.11733492]

>>11733227
I remember the title of the book was in english as was the rest of it too.

[Anonymous No.11733567]

>>11731150
I dunno about those electrolytes anon but they got a large ration of salt so that wouldn't have been an issue

Posca:
1 part honey
1 part wine vinegar
10 parts water

Enjoy and feel like A member of the 13th

[Anonymous No.11733592]

>>11730292
You should try wine made out of anything that isn't grapes, there's a lot of different fruit wines out there for you to try

[Anonymous No.11733615]

>>11731889
That was the Greeks. There's a line in They Symposium where someone suggests they only dilute it 2 to 1 which is a way to indicate they were gonna get fucked up at that party because they normally diluted it like 4 or 5 to one so nobody got too wasted

[Anonymous No.11733626]

>>11733154
how did you obtain it?

[Anonymous No.11733677]

>>11730292
Tastelet

>>11731240

[Anonymous No.11733719]

>>11730286
Smoked red wine actually sounds pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.11733774]

Anyone got some konfun or asuka period japanese culinary history stuff. Specifically related to pesant food and staples. Cant seem to find much on the subject most sorces saying little of it was ever recorded.

[Anonymous No.11733780]

>>11733626
There are many brands of red wine that use old whiskey barrels or something of the sort for aging giving a smoke flavor to the wine. See: >>11733306 , this is one such brand that is widely available in the US