/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11727509]

>coffee beans when roasted produce acrylamide that causes cancer
>caffeine is known to be addicted substance

Why aren't coffee shops treated the same way as tobacco companies?

[Anonymous No.11727532]

>>11727509
>caffeine is known to be addicted substance

Caffeine intake doesn't lead to physical dependence like nicotine. As for carcinogenicity, there are such things as relative toxicity and typical total amount consumed over a period.

[Anonymous No.11727553]

>>11727532
Plus coffee also has antioxidants which prevent cancer. It's as confusing as olive oil which also has carcinogens when heated and antioxidants.

[Anonymous No.11727557]

>>11727532
Nicotine doesn’t cause physical dependence; it’s the other alkaloids in tobacco that do. If you put a non-smoker on nicotine patches, they will have no withdrawal symptoms if you take them off of it.

[Anonymous No.11727559]

>>11727509

Why are you concerned about coffee when much more addictive and harmful substances like tobacco and alcohol are still legal? Big to small mormon-man.

[Anonymous No.11727562]

Everything causes cancer according to desperate academia trying to hold on to their gubmint welfare money

[Anonymous No.11727565]

>>11727557
Then what's up with all the addiction stories from vape devices?

[Anonymous No.11727567]

>>11727509
jews own interest in one commodity and not the other. true story.

[Anonymous No.11727571]

>>11727559
I'm not OP, but it's just a curiosity thing. We can discuss the small without having to discuss the large.

[Anonymous No.11727575]

>>11727509
>This mildly dangerous substance is acceptable so why isn't this massively more dangerous substance acceptable, too?
lol tobbaccucks are hilarious. Your addiction is dying, deal with it nerd.

[Anonymous No.11727579]

>>11727565
Those are habituation stories. When I quit smoking, the habit was a lot harder to break than the physical dependence.

[Anonymous No.11727582]

>>11727579
"It's not addiction, it just perfectly resembles an addiction"

[Anonymous No.11727590]

>>11727582
Are you fucking retarded? Do you think that someone who plays Wow for 16 hours a day will go through physical withdrawals if they stop? Suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.11727601]

>>11727565
The only addiction stories that come from vaping studies are that it puts you at a larger risk to start smoking real cigarettes

[Anonymous No.11727609]

>>11727579
>Those are habituation stories.
So your claim is that they are psychologically addictive (which anything pleasurable can be), not physically addictive?

[Anonymous No.11727820]

>>11727567
Look up Rothman Tobacco, now part of British American Tobacco.

[Anonymous No.11727827]

>>11727609
Yes. Psychologically addictive and habit forming, but not physically addictive. Like the difference between a gambling addiction and an alcohol addiction.

[Anonymous No.11727840]

>>11727827
Gotcha, I understand your position.

I disagree though, every medical source I have read indicates that nicotine itself is physically addictive just like alcohol and opiates are. Do you have any documentation to the contrary?

[Anonymous No.11727859]

>>11727509
>>11727553
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/top-13-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coffee#section1
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-is-coffee-good-for-you#section1
>https://www.chaosandpain.com/tips/coffee-elixir-of-the-gods/
>https://www.chaosandpain.com/tips/5-amazing-things-about-caffeine-that-you-didnt-know/
>https://www.anabolicmen.com/caffeine-testosterone/
>http://sci-fit.net/2017/collection-supplement-vitamin-studies/#Caffeine
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

[Anonymous No.11727871]

>>11727557
but that just reinforces the argument against OP
hookah bars aren’t regulated

[Anonymous No.11728062]

>>11727509
>coffee beans when roasted produce acrylamide that causes cancer
You pretty much can't take in enough acrylamide through eating roasted foods to cause cancer. It's only a concern for people working with concentrated acrylamide in some occupations.

[Anonymous No.11728070]

>>11727509
And don't get you started on the sugar that invariably finds its way into most, if not all, Starbucks drinks.

[Anonymous No.11728102]

>>11727840
Why yes I do. https://harmreductionjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1477-7517-8-12

[Anonymous No.11728109]

>>11727509
>produce acrylamide that causes cancer
Meaningless. When will you retards learn? You need to specify the dose. Nothing just "causes cancer" independent of dose.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4164905/
>Acrylamide carcinogenicity has been well established in a number of animal models such as rat and mouse; however, the study doses used are 1,000–100,000 times higher than the usual amounts, on a weight basis, that humans are exposed to through dietary sources. Moreover, studies have also reported differences in the metabolism of acrylamide and a two- to four-fold lower internal exposure of its metabolite glycidamide in humans.
>A majority of the studies reported no statistically significant association between dietary acrylamide intake and various cancers.
To recap:
>Dose required to see cancer is 1,000–100,000 times higher than normal dietary intake.
>And even then cancer is only seen in rat / mouse animal models.
>And even setting all that aside those animals metabolize it differently than we do resulting in them receiving 2 to 4 times more exposure to its metabolite glycidamide.
So there you go you stupid fuck. Never post here again.

[Anonymous No.11728118]

>>11728070
>if not all
I only order black coffee at Starbucks.

[Anonymous No.11728135]

ITT: coffee fiends

[Anonymous No.11728142]

>>11728135
Every normal non-Mormon adult drinks coffee.

[Anonymous No.11728602]

California requires fucking disneyland or any public place to put a vague little sign that they're going to get fucking cancer if they go inside, but not the actual harmful substance that causes it nor the quantities found inside nor the amount required for actual toxicity to the human body.

[Anonymous No.11729391]

>>11727509
>Why aren't coffee shops treated the same way as tobacco companies?
Because there is no second or third hand drinking (same for alcohol).

[Anonymous No.11729401]

>>11729391
Second hand smoking is bullshit too. Why do you think nobody's really made a big deal out of it since the 90s?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2013/12/12/study-finds-no-link-between-secondhand-smoke-and-cancer/#127c64d965d4

[Anonymous No.11729417]

>>11729401
second hand smoking has the smoke pass into your lungs without the cigarrete filter.

[Anonymous No.11729443]

>>11729417
OK, and it's still bullshit. It never panned out and you hardly even hear people try to bring it up as a potentially real problem anymore. Likely has something to do with how nobody has a pack a day seconhand smoking habit. You're not inhaling it like a smoker putting it straight into their lungs because they want and need that tobacco fix, you're getting a little hint of smoke in your normal air breathing in a way that isn't statistically correlated with lung cancer to a significant degree.