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My vegan friend says honey is not vegan because it harms bees.

>> No.11695474

Good to know

>> No.11695478

>>11695471
It doesn't
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>> No.11695491

>>11695471
Eating meat kills animals, but so what?
Those animals would never have existed unless meat eaters paid for them to be born. They should fucking be grateful as fuck that we gave them a chance to exist at all.

>> No.11695499

>>11695491
>5 mins later
MUMMY I DIDN'T ASK TO BE BORN!!!!

>> No.11695507

what definition of vegan is your friend working with? simply existing "harms" animals more than killing yourself right now would

>> No.11695555

>>11695507
He doesn't use instruments that contain "animal products" and stays away from anything that contains animal products except for fossil fuels because they died long time ago. Pretty strict I'd imagine.

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>another vegan thread

>> No.11696108

>>11695471
it's not vegan because it's a animal product
go vegetarian if you don't wanna eat meat but still eat honey

>> No.11696115

>>11696067
based

>> No.11696135

>>11696108
>switch labels for a day
>eat eggs and honey
>next day switch back

>> No.11696154

I got shamed and asked to leave a vegan restaurant last week because I was wearing a leather hat.
All I wanted was a falafel.

>> No.11696281

I hope he insists of gelatin-free film when getting an x-ray. Has he checked if his house paint is casein-free? Is the glycerin in his toothpaste of animal origin? How about certified vegan plywood and wood glue?

>> No.11696321

>>11695471
Well cell phone towers are also said to be causing the reduction in the bee population so there's that.

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>>11695471

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>>11695471
Honey is sticky with love

>> No.11696629

>>11695555
Tell him he should stop breathing, since air contains animal products.

>> No.11696780

>>11695471
does he think almonds are vegan then? industrial quantities of bees are pretty much required for almonds and almond products to exist

>> No.11697706

>>11695471
Your vegan friend is probably a complete tosser.

>> No.11697729

>Harms bees
Those little sluts love getting milked for their honey, you dumb faggot. The way they vibrate their wet and fuzzy bee pussies in the air like a bunch of whores. They want it and I'm horny enough to provide the service.

>> No.11697734

Honey is bee vomit more specifically, most mainstream honey exploit and damage hives

>> No.11697739
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11697739

god i hate vegans

>> No.11697744

>>11696414
Bees are the ultimate wageslaves

>> No.11697745

>>11695471
>My vegan friend says honey is not vegan because it harms bees.

Fun Fact: When farmers harvest their crops, it is estimated that over 400 animals small and large are killed, injured, or displaced from their homes, where they will eventually die.

Vegans are responsible for the mass murder of thousands of animals due to their poor choice of foods. Someone who really "cares" about animals and isn't a hypocritical liar will only eat home farmed organic foods.

>> No.11697753

It's called bee slavery

>> No.11697762
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>>11695471
Honey is not vegan because it is an animal product

However, honey harvesting does not harm bees.
An average bee hive needs about 50lb of honey to survive through winter, give or take ~10lb
An average bee hive actually produces about 200lb of honey in preparation for the winter.

If the surplus honey is not harvested, the hive will be crowded and the bees will abandon it to swarm: they will find a random new place to build a new hive, probably make a nuisance of themselves and get sprayed to death or else die of exposure in the winter from inadequate or incomplete hive construction.

The only harm commercial honey harvest causes is sometimes a bee might get crushed as you slide the trays in and out, but individual deaths at this scale is expected in a wild hive anyway and hardly a reason to not eat honey.
Your vegan friends justify the large-scale killings of field animals in normal crop harvest (do you have any idea how many mice get caught up in a grain combine?) with "well, at least it's accidental and not MURDER", so surely the same principle applies to honey.

>> No.11697775

>>11697745
The study this retarded stat is based off only recorded displaced animals. No death. Organic doesn’t mean vegan

>> No.11697813

>>11695491
>Those animals would never have existed
huh

>> No.11698340

>>11697813
They wouldn't have existed, because if they didn't provide food for us, then why the fuck would we do all the work to have them?
People intentionally breed these animals, provide them with food, housing, and honestly better health care than I get myself.
Honestly these animals have a charmed life. Live fast, die young. They dont do any work, they just stand around lazily among friends enjoying safety from predators and get fed way more than they would ever find in the wild.

>> No.11698439

>>11698340
PETA has tie to the Animal Liberation Front, remember.
They would honestly prefer those animals to have never existed than for them to suffer in slavery.
Hell, they'd even prefer all animals currently alive to be executed rather than suffer in bondage, and have mobile kill-teams slaughtering animals under pretense of rescue.

>> No.11698521

>>11698439
Gonna [need citation] liar.

>> No.11698531

Bees work very hard to produce honey and it is NOT OKAY for a human to simply take all of it just so they can slather it on toast.

Thats what jam is for.

>> No.11698533

>>11698521
https://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/

>> No.11698538

>>11698340
You’re just making vague assumptions they would become extinct from non-human factors
>charmed life
Yeah a charmed life of being maimed raped and killed for your fat gut, while poor you has to drive your scooter to McDonald’s to pick up the meal. Fuck you faggot

>> No.11698553

>>11695471
>vegan
>is still your friend
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11698563

>>11696780
Don't for an instant pretend the definition of vegan isn't completely arbitrary

>> No.11698650

>>11697762
this guy knows what he is talking about

>> No.11698707

>>11698533
Nice fake info full of lies, lair.

>> No.11698719

>>11698707
>fully cited article with direct interviews of PETA brass
>lies

Ah, you are a disinfo shill.
You'll find no converts here, shill. This is a meatitarian board.

>> No.11698794

>>11698719
>Needing converts.
>When half of /ck/ is vegan threads.
You must be the one lost here.

>> No.11698840

>>11697762
veganism is about whether the product was obtained with consent from the animal or not; thats why human cum is vegan because it was obtained with consent whereas something like cow's milk isnt

>> No.11698846

>>11698794
Half of /ck/ is shitposting from /int/
The other half of /ck/ is fat sacks of shit arguing about fast food

The vegan threads on /ck/ aren't numerous enough to even warrant calculating a fraction, and they're troll threads like this one besides because /ck/ is too dumb to recognize bait for what it is.

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>>11698533
>hey everybody, no one will be responsible for these cats suffering tremendously breeding more spawn to suffer the same fate, no one will adopt them, but PETA is the antichrist for compassionately euthanizing them.

And ironically, PETA's shelter kill rate is in line with all other kill shelters. How about adopting an animal from them or go out during natural disasters like they do rescuing animals and reuniting them with their owners? Oh, because like most of your ilk, you have no ethics or morals, but like to bitch about people and organizations that do. Grow up, animal rescue organizations aren't some librul, commie, socialist, atheist, sjw, jooish conspiracy to steal your precious bodily fluids.

>> No.11699397

>>11695471
The bees dont make it for fun, they work themselves to death making it. You're stealing the food they need to feed their family, honey that they died to create.

>> No.11699402

>>11698840
The sperm don't consent, you genocidal vegan fuck.

>> No.11699409

>>11699397
Instead of being dependent on uncertain availability of plants, they get 100% certain access to sugar water if they need it, all for a bit of honey.

Seems like a good trade to me, have never heard a bee say no either.

>> No.11699462

>>11699409
Bees dont talk. By vegan logic slavery was a great system for all concerned.

>> No.11699463

>>11695471
>born with canines
>yeah we're not supposed to eat meat guys