/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11663277]

Post more truth

[Anonymous No.11663279]

>>11663277
Retarded. The yield a tomato plant produces is ridiculous and if you know how to can things you have easily months worth of diced tomatoes, sauce, crushed tomatoes, etc.

[Anonymous No.11663283]

>>11663279
What's really retarded is unironically responding to blatant bait to stroke your redditor ego.

[Anonymous No.11663285]

>>11663279
thanks for the input retard.

[Anonymous No.11663290]

>>11663277
>post more truth
*bait

[Anonymous No.11663301]

>>11663283
>implying there arent people who actually feel this way about growing their own veggies

[Anonymous No.11663305]

>>11663277
Tastes better picked vine ripe. The grocery store advertising is lies those aren't vine ripe I live in the largest commercial tomato region in America and the trucks are piled high with greenish red tomatoes that have no flavor but will look bright red in the store, but good tomatoes shouldn't even look bright red they should look dark bordering maroon with a few yellow sun spots. Then the next trick is is to stop watering them as they ripen so the moisture evaporates leaving a higher brix content in the fruit. Commercial always max out the water to max out the yield weight so they get paid more.

[Anonymous No.11663316]

How do I grow a steak?

[Anonymous No.11663325]

>>11663301
>veggies

[Anonymous No.11663332]

>>11663277

[Anonymous No.11663348]

>>11663332
Wa la

[Anonymous No.11663360]

>>11663305
God-tier knowledgeable tomato poster.

[Anonymous No.11663366]

>>11663277
>post more truth
You're a poor cook if you use non stick.

[Anonymous No.11663377]

>>11663277
The Florida Keys are a just a front for a Russian Insurgency that intends to brainwash the American people to push a Global Diet Pill Pyramid scheme to get everyone jacked up on diet pills and use all the kinetic energy their muscles produce from the diet pills and energy drinks they'll be forcefed to drill a hole into the Federal Bank to collapse the US economy.
Key Lime = Yek Emil
Wake up sheeple.
Also, ice is a ponzy scheme to sell people less quanties of beverages to turn more profits.

[Anonymous No.11663409]

>>11663332

[Anonymous No.11663418]

>>11663409

[Anonymous No.11663430]

>>11663305
Not only tastes better, but you have access to an actual variety of tastes, too.

[Anonymous No.11663450]

>>11663305
Very good post

[Anonymous No.11663453]

>>11663277
i get them from my dad. i just put them in my garden and free tomatoes

[Anonymous No.11663535]

>>11663279
assuming you get enough rainfall, have fertile soil, and low pest pressure and thus not paying for water, fertilizer, and pesticides otherwise it's completely uneconomical

[Anonymous No.11663606]

>>11663535
If you buy fertilizer as pure raw ingredients it's super cheap. Get a 1 to 5 pound bag of Urea, Monopotassium Phosphate, Calcium Chloride / calcium nitrate, etc and mix up and dilute your own fertilizer mix. I usually mixed raw fertilizers with a bit of soil and water, and spread it around the base of the plants where the irrigation will wet it.

This way you can also customize your NPK and micronutrient ratios, and adjust as you see fit to respond to deficiencies in your soil.

[Anonymous No.11663628]

>>11663535
So live somewhere halfway decent?

[Anonymous No.11663638]

>>11663430
hahaha
the ones at the bottom look like penises
hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.11663649]

>>11663638
yo, see a doctor

[Anonymous No.11663698]

>>11663277
The other problem is that homegrown tomatoes taste like 4 times better than store bought

[Anonymous No.11663715]

>>11663366
Meh. I understand the sentiment, but if it's something like frying up a few eggs for breakfast I'll take the easiest pan to clean.

[Anonymous No.11663841]

>>11663715
If you know how to cook an egg all pans come out clean. Eggs are the simplest thing to do. Literally the retard test for boh

[Anonymous No.11663995]

>>11663301
>implying that wasn't exactly what you were doing and the type of faggot that you are

[Anonymous No.11664033]

>>11663535
Fixing those issues is hardly expensive as tomatoes will grow in a variety of conditions and take over a garden very easily if they're not watched. They're almost as easy zucchini.

[Anonymous No.11664480]

People actually grow their food to save money? I thought they grew them because they like growing things and if you can eat the things you grow (unlike, say, flowers) then all the better

At least that's why I do it.

[Anonymous No.11664548]

>>11663316
plant cow

[Anonymous No.11664554]

>>11663698
No they dont. I raised a tomato plant this summer and got some tomatoes (just the ones the garden slugs didnt get) and they didnt taste any different than store bought. Raising that plant for the actual tomatoes was huge waste of time and effort, only worth it if you do it for fun.

[Anonymous No.11664567]

>>11664554
What variety of tomato did you grow, and can you post some photos of the plant? I grew a whole bunch of different varieties (13 in total, see >>11663430) and they were clearly different, and in my opinion superior, to storebought.

[Anonymous No.11664669]

>>11664033
>Fixing those issues is hardly expensive
ok flyover

[Anonymous No.11664693]

>>11663430
me on the left

[Anonymous No.11664721]

>>11664033
>hardly expensive
Tell me where you live where you're ablre to grow tomatoes cheaper at home than simply buying them. The birdnetting required to not lose 80% of the crop already exceeds the market price.

[Anonymous No.11664759]

Jesus H. Christ, all the Anons ITT who only care about the money aspect make me sad. The kikes really got into your head, didn't they?

[Anonymous No.11664809]

>>11663638
just wait until you see a mushroom

[Anonymous No.11664828]

>>11663606
>implying this doesn't prove the same point as the OP
I make $40 an hour, I can't justify spending that much time making my own fertilizer for some fucking tomatoes.

>>11664759
I care about both my money and time, compared to what may be a marginal flavor difference. It's not exactly like having an old hamburger compared to a cut of Kobe beef.

[Anonymous No.11664846]

>>11663366
Kinda close because literally the opposite is true.

[Anonymous No.11664852]

>>11664828
>that much time
Do all the computations ahead of time, then just read the schedule and scoop 1 teaspoon urea, 2 teaspoons monopotassium phosphate, etc into a watering can, fill with water with the hose, then water the plants. Adjust if there are issues with over / under fertilization.

The real time sink in gardening is maintaining the plants. You have to train them through your trellis or stake and tie things, which can get screwed up in the wind and rain. If you use ties, you had to be careful to tie them loosely or watch the plant's growth or else the tie will constrict the plant. You have to be dutiful about harvesting the plants, because animals will go after the ripe fruits and letting them rot on the ground will attract more animals and encourage mold / disease. You have to regularly look over all the plants because if you miss a mold or disease or pest infestation, it can get out of control really fast. And if you don't have irrigation or a wet enough climate for what you are growing, you'll have to spend a lot of time watering, because if you water too fast the water will run across the top of the soil away from the plants.

The fertilization is not a significant time sink compared to all of the other stuff, it's maybe 15 minutes a week.

[Anonymous No.11664999]

>>11663638
HAHAHAH baby dick tomato dick AAAAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11665060]

>>11664554
Then you fucking suck
>>11664721
I wasn't even going to respond until this fucking nigger posts about birdnetting. Fucking birdnetting? I've never once seen a bird go for a tomato.
>>11664759
These people are low-skilled, just laugh at them.
>>11664828
>I make $40 an hour, I can't justify spending that much time making my own fertilizer for some fucking tomatoes.
You're on fucking 4chan, you can justify anything else.

/ck/ come on...

This year, keeping it light:
Speckled Roman
Supersweet 100

My time of 20 varieties is over

[Anonymous No.11665086]

>>11663430
i see you, onion

[Anonymous No.11665097]

>>11663430
One of those is an onion! You can't fool me evil santa!

[Anonymous No.11665098]

>>11664852
Yeah, too much shit for a couple of tomatoes. I also live in the desert. For the hours of time I'd put in watering, looking for diseases, learning about fertilizer, etc., I can walk into my local grocer and get some tomatoes in under 10 minutes.

>>11665060
>you're on fucking 4chan you can justify anything
Shitposting in the middle of my holiday week while watching tv trying to fall back asleep is a different ballgame than gardening and mixing fertilizers and shit.

In a normal week, it would mean waking up early, or cutting social/family/relaxation/gym out of my day so I could tend to a garden for almost zero real gain.

[Anonymous No.11665129]

>>11664852
>If you use ties, you had to be careful to tie them loosely or watch the plant's growth or else the tie will constrict the plant

One thing I’ve had success with, both for roses and vegetables, is use of copper ethernet cables innards for ties. There’s 8 strands of very small diameter solid copper wire in each. Normal ethernet cable is not waterproofed in any way. The combined small diameter and lack of waterproofing mean that you can use one or two loose twists of this wire to secure a branch. If it grows quickly large, it will overpower the 1-2 twists. If it doesn’t, or if it can’t be overpowered, it will disintegrate over time due to lack of waterproofing, but AFTER it has been successfully trained in the correct direction.

[Anonymous No.11665158]

>>11663332
Wa la la

[Anonymous No.11665301]

>>11665098
If you live in the desert, no one was talking to you. You niggers can't grow anything, so giving up before you started is a good choice.

Also, literally everything cuts into relaxation. Saying you don't do something because it cuts into relaxation is a fucking catch-all redundancy. Just say you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.11665311]

>>11663535
Don't forget your plants being raped by fungus every single time, no matter how dry you keep the leaves.

[Anonymous No.11665315]

>>11665129
That's a solid suggestion. I generally use a weave so I don't tie a whole lot, because I'm generally doing t-posts and line for 60+ plants.

[Anonymous No.11665325]

>>11665311
based southern bro

Seriously tomatoes are easy. Increase air circulation.

[Anonymous No.11665334]

>>11663377
based and redpilled
also,4 dubs
you can get no more dubs than 4

[Anonymous No.11665377]

>>11665315
Makes sense. I only grow around 6 of anything at any time. One other aspect of thin copper wire that is useful: maybe I’m an irredeemable hippie, but I always try to bend before I give up and prune. So if, for example, a rosebush blasts out 3 ft into my driveway, I take those branches and bend them back rather than cut them off. However, these situations lend themselves to overtying since pressure needs to be applied. Solid core copper wire does not flex at all and will generally hold for a month or maybe two depending on the seasn, but then totally eats shit. Actual garden ties last way too long IMO as can twine to my surprise.

[Anonymous No.11665379]

>>11663638
the fuck kind of dicks have you been suckin?

[Anonymous No.11665399]

>>11665377
Twine does last a long time. I use natural fiber twine, so when I'm done I just chuck it in the compost or the burn pile. It even stays for a long time in the compost.

Anyone want some naranjilla seedlings?

[Anonymous No.11665499]

nothing compares to a home grown tomato in taste
nothing

OP is bait

[Anonymous No.11665519]

>>11664721
>birdnetting tomatoes

yiu;ve never had a gardoni

[Anonymous No.11665521]

>>11664828

> It's not exactly like having an old hamburger compared to a cut of Kobe beef.

yes it is.

[Anonymous No.11665536]

>>11664480
This and it tastes better.
Also if society falls i have the knowledge to grow food.

[Anonymous No.11665586]

>can't grow tomatoes because live in an apartment with a single north facing window
Should I earnestly consider dropping money on a grow light?

[Anonymous No.11665611]

>>11665586
Only if you have solar panels to run it. Its a juice hog.

[Anonymous No.11665616]

>>11665611
Damn, that's unfortunate. Even small ones?

I guess I'll relegate myself to growing small stuff like herbs and hot peppers and baby carrots.

[Anonymous No.11665622]

>>11663638
Haha

[Anonymous No.11665632]

>>11665616
>Even small ones?
You can easily do the math yourself, anon.

>>look up light's specs. See how many watts it is
>>compare that to your electric rates and see if you are OK with paying that.

Sample:
500 watt lamp x 12 hours a day = 6000 watt-hours, or 6 kwh.
Average cost of electricity is 12 cents per kwh, so that lamp would cost you 12 x 6 = 72 cents per day, if it was on 12 hours/day.

[Anonymous No.11665637]

>>11663277
Imagine being so miserable that you think of everything as a chore that has to yield a profit.
I have a small garden because I enjoy working in it, not because I can't afford to buy vegetables.
Homegrown also tends to taste better.

[Anonymous No.11665660]

>>11663305
Utter drivel.

[Anonymous No.11665682]

>>11665158
Heh

[Anonymous No.11665687]

>>11665586
100 watt draw LED costs about 1 penny per hour to run and you could grow a few dwarf or patio tomatoes

[Anonymous No.11665724]

>>11665622
>Haha
see>>11665682

[Anonymous No.11665742]

>>11665687
I...actually don't like tomatoes THAT much honestly I'd probably just grow Roma for sauces or cherry for toppings.

Could I feasibly grow bell pepper with the same lights?

[Anonymous No.11665768]

>>11665660
He's right. Most tomatoes are picked before ripeness and then sprayed with a chemical to look red

[Anonymous No.11665772]

>>11665687
Assuming LED will be on an approximated day-night cycle where it will be turned on 12 hours per day:
>total time required for patio tomato plant to mature: 70 days
>total harvest period: 56 days
>total LED time required: (70 + 56) * 12 = 1512 hours
>total cost: 1512hr * $0.01/hr = $15.12
>average patio tomato weight: 3-4oz, avr. 3.5oz.
>average patio tomato yield: approx. 50 over 8wk harvest period
>weight of tomato yield: 175oz = ~11lb
According to the USDA, patio-size tomatoes should retail for $3.48/lb.
>cost of yield if from market: 11lb * $3.48/lb = $38.28
>savings: $38.28 - $15.12 = $23.16
Assuming water cost is negligible, no fertilisers used, optimal growing conditions, cost of plant and light not factored in. Even accounting for those additional costs, it'd be safe to assume it's still in positive savings. Math checks out. Biggest lost is obviously time, as you're waiting more than two months just for the plant to grow and harvest period spans another two months.

Sources for data:
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/fruit-and-vegetable-prices.aspx
https://bonnieplants.com/product/patio-tomato/

[Anonymous No.11665778]

>>11665772
Optimal tomato plants require a growing season that exceeds a 12/12 split in order to be in line with the hours of daylight experienced in a north/south of the tropics summer.

[Anonymous No.11665784]

>>11665772
Also assuming one LED per plant.
>>11665778
Even at the extreme of keeping the light turned on for the entire duration, you still make savings of roughly $8.

[Anonymous No.11665794]

>>11663305
so pay the extra few cents for the "fresh" ones some dumb asshole grew. save yourself the time

[Anonymous No.11665797]

>>11665536
You only think it tastes better because otherwise you'd have to admit to yourself you're just dumb for wasting so much time for something you couldn't pass a blindfold taste test on.
It's like that thing where someone buys a gadget they think will fix their life, and it will be useful, and they have to come up with excuses to use it so they won't feel they wasted their money.

[Anonymous No.11665811]

>>11663283
you're just a whole new level of insufferable. I don't know what website you came from that you manage to be worse than reddit, but you need to go back

[Anonymous No.11665816]

>>11665811
Stfu idiot and get over being called out

[Anonymous No.11665821]

>>11665816
I'm not even the original poster, retard. Strike two that you don't belong here. Wanna go for a third?

[Anonymous No.11665845]

>>11663638
lmao

[Anonymous No.11665860]

>>11665794
>save your time
You mean the fifteen minutes of planting in soil and the bi weekly task of turning a timer switch on a faucet?

[Anonymous No.11665867]

For me it's prickly pear cactus

[Anonymous No.11665996]

>>11665742
You could but it's really only worthwhile for something you can't get in the store, Roma's, cherry and bell peppers don't fit the bill and that's why people don't use grow lights for them. Lettuce and herbs might be better if you cook alot

[Anonymous No.11666097]

Last summer my parents mad me water their tomatoes every day while being on vacation. The ones in the supermarket are bigger, more red and cheaper if you consider labor. What a waste of fucking time!

[Anonymous No.11666109]

>>11663279
I had 5 tomato plants in my garden this year and my harvest was insane.

[Anonymous No.11666118]

>>11666109
I had 3 and gave around half of them away. Same with my two cucumber plants. I can only pickle so many

[Anonymous No.11666163]

>>11666097
>bigger, more red and cheaper
and less delicious

[Anonymous No.11666222]

>>11665867
i have a cactus in my backyard who makes a ton of these shits but i hate eating them, so when they fall to the ground a ton of coyotes (or, at least thats what i think they are) eat them and shit near my doors

[Anonymous No.11666243]

City people can't get good tomatoes.They are unavailable at any price or $8 a pound if you can get them. I would feel bad for them but they are sheeple whom don't even know what they are missing

[Anonymous No.11666262]

Homegrown tomatoes are much better than store bought. This is an indisputable fact

[Anonymous No.11666264]

>>11666243
Personally, I'm glad that the sheep have been herded and penned into their designated kill chutes. This will make the day of reckoning so clean and efficient and thanks to this all the problems created by exacerbated population pressure will go away. I hold no ill will towards them, the same as I do not begrudge the gilt fit for slaughter.

[Anonymous No.11666265]

>>11666243
>whom don't even know what they are missing
>whom
Oh, I think they do Cletus, and one of those things are inbreds mangling the english language.

[Anonymous No.11666288]

Let's hope so but they will probably pull a Holodomor and use the cities to send out raiding parties to steal all the food and starve the kulaks. They don't have a lot of ideas so they need to recycle them

[Anonymous No.11666292]

>>11666264
Why do racist losers vote Republican and normal people vote Democratic? Because they are ignurant.

[Anonymous No.11666300]

>>11666264
good satire

[Anonymous No.11666321]

>>11666292
I have many friends from various ethnicities, ultimately its about free minded values and liberties. Urbanites staunchly believe in the tyranny of the majority and this has colored the modern liberal ideology into a perverted, muddied hue distinct from the virtues of Locke and Smith and more in palate with the Athenian Sophists who banished the hero Pericles.

[Anonymous No.11666505]

>>11665867
delicious/10

[Anonymous No.11666512]

Tomatoes are gross anyways

[Anonymous No.11666680]

>>11663277
Growing tomatoes is awesome if you like tomatoes that don't taste like mushy paper

[Anonymous No.11666732]

>>11665521
>$110 per lb meat that comes from only one small area of a tiny country, and takes nearly 3 years to come to fruition
>the same as a tomato you can practically grow anywhere to save a whopping two dollars

got me, anon

[Anonymous No.11666753]

>>11665060
>I've never once seen a bird go for a tomato.
Where do you live? Here in socal they even peck through organza bags to get them.

[Anonymous No.11666794]

>>11666753
Yeah, here in the south mockingbirds occasionally do a little damage but it certainly isn't worth putting up bird netting. Strawberries otoh, have to be protected or those fuckers will damage every berry.

[Anonymous No.11666815]

What things does it make sense to grow from a cost perspective? Herbs seem really easy to do inside or outside. I might try growing hydroponic lettuce and hot peppers as well.

[Anonymous No.11666972]

>decide to grow my own tomatos and bell peppers as a hobby in the summer
>discover how common loopers and tobacco worms are

No silver lining, produce was tiny and none of my fish are big enough to eat caterpillars comfortably

[Anonymous No.11667018]

>>11666972
You could chop then up

[Anonymous No.11667083]

>>11667018
but that's nasty. Especially for tobacco worms

[Anonymous No.11667131]

>>11663279
fucking retard. like legit fucking RETARD. you shouldn't post about things of which you know NOTHING. fucking kill yourself you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.11667322]

>>11667131
Nah, he's right.

[Anonymous No.11667402]

>>11663277
you're a lazy millennial pussy

[Anonymous No.11667408]

>>11665768
This. Immigrant workers spray paint fruit and vegetables to look ripe.

[Anonymous No.11667414]

>>11667408
is that why they spraypaint their neighborhoods and cars and signs and other stuff?
"YO ESSAY, LOOK HOW RIPE MAH NEIGHBORHOOD IS, YO"

[Anonymous No.11667469]

>>11667131
But he's completely right, if you tend to it properly a single plant can easily produce more than you can use.

[Anonymous No.11667567]

>>11667322
>>11667469
shut the fuck up you lying pieces of shit.... so sick of tomatoes being SHILLED on here when they are like 99% WATER and nothing else.
FUCK
YOU

[Anonymous No.11667614]

>>11663606
>please put me on an FBI watchlist

[Anonymous No.11667618]

>>11667567
What does tomatoes being mostly water have up do with a single well-being tended plant producing or not producing more than a single person can use?

[Anonymous No.11667620]

>>11666243
Oh look another hick who thinks he knows the "real world"

[Anonymous No.11667626]

>>11663301
Tomatoes are a fruit you mong

[Anonymous No.11667628]

>>11667567
Proof that survival of the fittest doesn't exist to n modern society.

[Anonymous No.11667632]

>>11666243
Are the paler of those tomatoes naturally that pale pink when ripe, or did you pick them slightly under ripe? I usually let them riped all the way on the branch, on the assumption that the flavor will develop more, but I've heard people intentionally pick them slightly under ripe too.

[Anonymous No.11667634]

>>11667626
Botanically they're fruits aka berries, but culinarily they're veggies.

[Anonymous No.11667852]

>>11666753
NC ftw

[Anonymous No.11667892]

>>11665867

Maltese person here. Better get the ones with the spines removed or prepare for hours of microscopic agony.

[Anonymous No.11667913]

>>11665060
I get a tray of tomatoes plants from my retired uncle every year. Usually I wind up with Hillbillies and some kind of super Amish paste. Somehow we always have a yellow pear or an orange variety which make things confusing. No idea where all this time goes into gardening. Watering takes a few minutes a day and in that time I add whatever fertilizer/pest control my plants need, which is usually not that much. I use raised beds so I rarely have any issues with soil nutrition minus some blossom end rot one year which I’ve since supplemented to avoid. I pity all these anons who are too caught up in their wageslave lives to tend to a simple garden. I just started a compost pile this summer and hopefully I’ll be able to use it to grow some crazy stuff this season.

[Anonymous No.11667952]

>>11667892
Worked in southwestern us national parks for a bit. I literally sat on one during a break. Duct tape is the only solution.

Still, not as bad as yucca... those bad boys can stick into your bone

[Anonymous No.11667959]

>>11667952
Or fucking cholla. Accidentally brushed my leg into one once. Absolutely agonizing to pull out

[Anonymous No.11668218]

I fucking love tomatoes boys, I eat them like apples with a little salt and pepper

[Anonymous No.11668244]

>>11666972
get used to it anon, half of growing food is dealing with the pests that infest your garden.

its like a fucking tower defence game, you have to carefully place traps to comba rats, mice, etc.

while also deplying bombing agents (poison) to dispel all those icky worms and shit

[Anonymous No.11668754]

>>11663638

[Anonymous No.11668878]

>>11663638
hahahah

[Anonymous No.11668886]

>>11665334
It truly was a based day

[Anonymous No.11668911]

>>11667131
Lmbo found the incel.

[Anonymous No.11668928]

>>11667131
Fuck you faggot come say that shit to my face BITCH

[Anonymous No.11668935]

>>11663301
>veag gays

[Anonymous No.11668981]

>>11664809

[Anonymous No.11669004]

>>11663279
tomatoes are pretty cheap dude

[Anonymous No.11669383]

>>11667567
This is, by far, the most upset I've seen anyone about tomatoes.

[Anonymous No.11669408]

>>11668244
I use zero pesticides our herbicides in my garden. Companion planting is all I need. I barely even water because I mulch heavily. I'll get 1 or 2 hornworms a year and they'll get riddled with wasp eggs and die. Every year, I get the city to drop off 80 cubic yards of compressed leaves and I put those in my garden and surrounding beds. The worms are absolutely out of control. I'm still enjoying daikon radish, lettuce, greens, kohlrabi, bok choy, and green onions here in NC.

[Anonymous No.11669451]

>>11663332

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[Anonymous No.11669455]

>>11663638
Based haha poster

[Anonymous No.11669615]

>>11665797
You're such a fag. And a huge tastelet, too.

[Anonymous No.11669786]

>>11669615
>kitchen catfaggot calling literally anyone else a tastelet fag

[Anonymous No.11670014]

>>11669615
>>11669786
What the hell is wrong with both of you? I'm the only chadtongue in this thread, anyways...

[Anonymous No.11670040]

>>11666262

this guy gets it