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[Anonymous No.11616389]

Should I stop being vegan?
I know we can be healthy as vegetarian but can we really be healthy without animal products?
https://youtu.be/PFnkWjmvMOA
https://youtu.be/hwv3KaKWlFw
https://youtu.be/VDv2nYa6CD8

[Anonymous No.11616401]

lol that cow making a funni face haha

[Anonymous No.11616417]

>tardage posting antivegan videos again

[Anonymous No.11616434]

>>11616389
Do whatever you want. I'll continue with my diet.

[Anonymous No.11616438]

>>11616389
Oooh, beef cheek ravioli for dinner!

[Anonymous No.11617713]

>>11616389
All the science is clear: the vegan diet is substantially healthier than non-vegan diets. Here's a recent meta-analysis you can look over if you want. If you want to be healthy, then going vegan is a good first step.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10408398.2016.1138447

[Anonymous No.11618166]

Stop shilling your fucking videos kidranqe

[Anonymous No.11618198]

>>11617713
>"VEGANISM IS GOOD FOR YOU"
>Post stats/studies from a pro-Vegan site

You're like the same faggot that goes "People with Pets are statistically unhappier and prone to pedophilia" - Source: PETA.

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.11618213]

>>11617713
This is only true if you compare the average non-vegan diet where people are shovelling sugar and junk food into their mouths all day. A balanced omnivore diet is going to be healthier than a vegan diet. An omnivore can eat everything that a vegan does plus get benefits from animal foods that you can't get from plants.

[Anonymous No.11618281]

>>11616389
Do like you want or your body needs it. Some bodies dont work that as pure vegan. Just like pure meat eaters.
But you can try to go paleo way. Either small times big meat feasts. (If you dont want to hurt animals you can search for meat that is made by giving the animals a good life.)
Or you try to eat a small amount of meat and milk products everyday. (so you stay ecologic good without having the negatives of meatless eating)

[Anonymous No.11618288]

>>11617713
stop calling it vegan diet FUCK IT it's a vegetarian diet, vegan is a lifestyle, not a diet

[Anonymous No.11618289]

>>11617713
This >>11618213
Studies shows humans are healthier if they have intervalls of strict diets. So its underrstandable that if you go vegan, because the body is on a diet because less meat.
But omnivore, small dose of meat, milk or eggs and having a body that is slightly above good bmi is the healtiest.

[Anonymous No.11618323]

>>11616389
Thanks for the laugh op that pic is comedy GOLD.

[Anonymous No.11618325]

>>11616389
I mean you could also instead just eat eggs cheese milk and occasionally some meat and just look out that you are buying from a source that ensures the animals either had or are having a decent life you would generally consider worth living?
Maybe meat should cost you a bit

[Anonymous No.11618549]

>>11618198
I cited a peer-reviewed published meta-analysis. Science is too pro-vegan for you I guess.

[Anonymous No.11618553]

>>11618213
>>11618289
I literally linked to a meta-analysis which showed otherwise you utter retards.

[Anonymous No.11620227]

lol omnivore and vegetarian diets are the best
vegan shit can fuck off

[Anonymous No.11620290]

>>11618553
>study says vegan and vegetarian diets help with not being overweight
So it wasn't really comparing balanced omnivore diets, but the average person who eats too much junk food and too much in general with vegans and vegetarians who are much more likely to pay attention and care more about what they're eating, which was my point. All studies show omnivore athletes outperforming vegan athletes on average, except for in some things like marathon running where being underweight is an advantage.

There's no good reason to go vegan for health unless you have heart disease from something else. I can eat chips and cookies and candy all day and be vegan, but I'd be just as unhealthy as the average omnivore who does the same. The only good reason to go vegan is because you don't like modern farming methods or are against the killing of animals, and even that's becoming obsolete with lab-grown meat getting closer to being available in stores. Unless you consider lab-grown meat vegan, which is fine, but not all vegans do and they say it's a bad thing which is shitty to do because it has more potential to help animals than trying to convince everyone to go vegan since it can finally put an end to these issues since we can have meat without killing for it.

[Anonymous No.11620399]

>>11618213
Have you got any evidence or studies to support this?

[Anonymous No.11620404]

>>11620290
>All studies show omnivore athletes outperforming vegan athletes on average, except for in some things like marathon running where being underweight is an advantage.
Sample size of vegan athletes is too small for any meaningful data.

[Anonymous No.11620427]

>>11618289
you were correct until
>small dose of meat
we are more carnivore than omnivore. meat is the best fuel source for us. we lack the multiple stomachs, long digestive tract, grinding molars, and time needed to consume enough plant matter for our needs, and extract the maximum amount of nutrients from it. herbivorous livestock, however, do. you can get everything you need from meat. from fat to vitamin c. it is unsustainable to live entirely on meat for an extended period of time however, esp for a large population. so some amount of starch, vegetables, or fruit must be cyclically introduced

[Anonymous No.11620440]

>>11616389
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6sM8pDH-HMc

[Anonymous No.11620490]

>>11617713
>all the science
>posts one study
This is your brain on malnutrition

[Anonymous No.11620494]

>>11620399
Shut up dumb veganigger.

[Anonymous No.11620528]

>>11616389
>Should I stop being vegan?
Yes. They are fanatical nutjobs and there's no reason not to eat animal products. It's up to you to decide which ones to eat.

[Anonymous No.11621135]

get a gun and kill something yourself
bring a hatchet in case it refuses to die
then you will understand what it means to eat meat

[Anonymous No.11621355]

>>11621135
Done and done, you city dweliing faggot. My god, you people are insufferable.

[Anonymous No.11621394]

>>11618288
Imagine not knowing what thw word "diet" means on a board about food.

[Anonymous No.11621594]

>>11620490
Oh look you don't know what meta-analysis means.

[Anonymous No.11621600]

>>11620494
Great post, you sure got me there.

[Anonymous No.11621614]

>another thread where vegans argue their position strongly and meat-eaters look borderline clinically retarded

Look. The facts are these. Vegans are right, but most of us couldn't care less. It's also morally right to avoid environmentally-unfriendly products, and stop using air travel, and spend your weekends working for homeless charities...

But none of us will do that, because we just couldn't care. It's effort. I'm never going to be vegan, many of you won't ever be either.

But then when faced with your own moral laziness your ego can't handle it so you begin making excuses and buying into falsehoods and, all in all, looking dumb as shit in vegan threads. Stop being so retarded and face facts.

[Anonymous No.11621668]

>>11621614
just like I said in the other thread it isn't morally wrong at all

[Anonymous No.11621752]

This is now a carnist thread. Post local meat porn.

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>>11621756
why are meatcucks so easily triggered

[Anonymous No.11621768]

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>>11621761
"Triggered" is your word, pumpkin, not ours. I'm just proving the superiority of meat based cuisine by stimulating your instinctive appetite for dead animal flesh.

[Anonymous No.11621778]

>>11618549

> meta-analysis

Oh, so it's just someone's biased interpretation of other studies.

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>>11621668
In your opinion...

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>>11621594

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/09/meta-analyses-were-supposed-end-scientific-debates-often-they-only-cause-more

Bullshit is what they are.

[Anonymous No.11621793]

>>11621614
this guy's point immediately proven correct by this faggot:
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>>11621793
Samefagging is shameful, veganon.

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>>11616389
vegans protest at meat eating resterants
>>why dont you see meat eater protesting at vegan resterants?

>>how do you know when someone is a vegan?
BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS

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[Anonymous No.11621932]

>>11621614
How is it moral? How does a post-modern, neo-marxist claim objective morality?

He does so without integrity, for sure.

[Anonymous No.11621954]

>>11616389
It's as good a time as any:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSe-0vSRMY

[Anonymous No.11622589]

Peak diet is mostly vegetables and fruits with the occasional lean meat or seafood. Instead of making meat the basis for a meal it should compliment the vegetables or rice. Thats how Asians do it.

[Anonymous No.11622597]

>>11621614
This. I hate animal cruelty and seeing what happens in large farms. I just like food more and can't help it. I'd be all for lab based meat alternatives when they become viable, but price is the biggest issue right now.

[Anonymous No.11623390]

Is Veganism the new south beach? because I see a whole lotta doctor phil tier shilling going on here.

[Anonymous No.11623392]

>>11621859
>BRISKET

Why would anyone use that greasy piece of ass as a basis for anything?

[Anonymous No.11623415]

>>11621932
I don't know about them, but I have an objective non-religious moral framework. My ethics are correct, if you disagree it's because you are objectively wrong.

[Anonymous No.11623454]

>>11623390
yeah basically

[Anonymous No.11623461]

>>11622589
>Thats how Asians do it.
Yeah and that's why they're all manlets. Drink milk and eat meat. It's good for you.

[Anonymous No.11624373]

>>11623415
Hello nu-Hitler. Blow your brains out like he did.

[Anonymous No.11625879]

>>11620427
>we lack the ... grinding molars
maybe if you don't take care of your teeth. my molars are fine

[Anonymous No.11626733]

>>11616389
You can also eat free range chicken eggs and drink milk from ethically raised cows you know.
Unless you live in some kind of fucking urban dystopia that is.
>Can we be healthy without animal products ?
I don't know ? Was your mother's milk an animal product ? I'll let you decide.
You can still eat vegetables and then eat eggs, milk or cheese once or twice a week

[Anonymous No.11626771]

>>11616389
Nobody really knows. It really depends whether you want to be an experiment or not. In 200 years we'll be able review the lives of a broad variety of vegans and compare it to that of vegetarians and carnists. Then we'll have a solid basis for a hypothesis, and be ready to start trying to understand how viable veganism is. This is the scientific method. But for now, we just don't know.

[Anonymous No.11626864]

>>11624373
Find some country of great people to subvert into making me.
>>11623461
The highest correlation factor in that research for European countries included potato protein. The Dutch aren't that high up in total animal protein consumption, or even milk consumption.

If you want to emulate the Dutch feed your kid milk and eat potatoes for dinner every night, don't let him be a short keto nigger.