/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11588844]

can vegans eat honey?

[Anonymous No.11588855]

>>11588844
Checked
Also: bees are not your fucking slaves.

[Anonymous No.11588867]

>>11588855
Also checked
I'm vegan and I eat dairy, fish and honey. It depends how vegan you are.

[Anonymous No.11588870]

>>11588844
no but they can eat DEEZ NUTS
HAH GOT EEM

[Anonymous No.11588873]

88888 get

[Anonymous No.11588876]

>>11588867
>how vegan you are
you're either vegan or you're not

[Anonymous No.11588879]

>>11588876
I only eat fish once per day and I pray beforehand. I'm vegan.

[Anonymous No.11588887]

Get

[Anonymous No.11588891]

>>11588887
>Get
FUCK

[Anonymous No.11588910]

>>11588855
Bees like human nests though

[Anonymous No.11588912]

>>11588844
They certainly eat a lot of cock.

[Anonymous No.11588917]

>>11588910
Jumping spiders are cuter and more inquisitive. There's one that hang out around me checking me out and chilling out on my laptop. I leave it alone.

[Anonymous No.11588922]

>>11588912
Stop projecting, homo

[Anonymous No.11588924]

>>11588917
cute

[Anonymous No.11588947]

Depends on personal beliefs. I.E. if you're vegan because you don't think humans should ever take animal resources, or if you're vegan just because you're against all animal farming practices as being abusive, or if you're vegan because you believe higher animals are capable of suffering and shouldn't be exploited.
I don't get the anti-exploitation ones though. Honeymaking bees are free and happy as fuck. Imagine if you had a really nice luxury condominium, and the only downside is that every once a few months the landlord will come in and steal every single piece of garbage in the place because he loves to eat it. Bee Movie wasn't a documentary.

[Anonymous No.11589048]

>>11588844
Vegans can eat whatever they want just like anyone else, veganism is a description of their preferences. By the definition, if you eat honey, you aren't strictly vegan, and all of your holier-than-thou fast-ffod-guzzling 'pals' will be sure to let you know.

>>11588867
Dumb troll

[Anonymous No.11589214]

>>11588887
btfo
>>11588888

[Anonymous No.11589525]

>>11588947
but bees eat honey in winter when there isnt enough food?

[Anonymous No.11589526]

no, but vegetarians can.

[Anonymous No.11589543]

>>11588947
Vegan means no animal products. If you eat honey, you are a vegetarian

[Anonymous No.11589547]

>>11589543
assuming no meat

[Anonymous No.11589565]

>>11588867
No you are pescatarian

[Anonymous No.11589566]

>>11589525
You really believe bee keepers remove all of the honey and don't leave enough for the colony to feed on through the winter? That's why you often see 2 large boxes (brood boxes) on the base where the bees store their honey and smaller boxes on top of those during spring and summer where the bees store excess honey that the beekeeper collects.

[Anonymous No.11589598]

>>11589566
i know they dont but the analogy was kinda shit
>the landlord will come in and steal every single piece of garbage
they just take out the excess the bees probably wont need
i guess they could take all of it and put some sugarwater nearby though

[Anonymous No.11589609]

>>11589598
>excess honey
not a thing. bees don't make that shit for fun
>i guess they could take all of it and put some sugarwater nearby though
you guess beekeepers could do the standard practice?

[Anonymous No.11589615]

>>11589543
can a vegan sit on leather furniture? can they carry a leather wallet?

[Anonymous No.11589631]

>>11589609
>excess honey is not a thing
so the bees just throw it away at some point?
>bees dont make that shit for fun
yes, they make it for when there isnt enough food, resulting in excess when there is enough food

you're not making any sense

[Anonymous No.11589644]

>>11589543
It's not an animal product though. It's just something created by bees. It's like saying it's not vegan to eat cow shit.

[Anonymous No.11589651]

Are honeybees the comfiest insect?

[Anonymous No.11589691]

>>11588867
I'm vegan too. I eat dairy, fish, honey, beef, chicken, and bacon. But I do occasionally eat vegetables, so I identify as vegan.

[Anonymous No.11589693]

>>11589651
Nah, spiders. literally sit around in their living room all day, knitting.

[Anonymous No.11589694]

>>11589543
Insects aren't animals they're insects

[Anonymous No.11589698]

>>11589693
spiders aren't insects they're scorpians

[Anonymous No.11589699]

>>11589644
But honey is bees entire lifework, cow just make milk as side product. wat fuck?

[Anonymous No.11589702]

>>11588947
>>11589525
>>11589566
>>11589609
>>11589598
It's more like having a feudal lord. The beekeeper takes care of them for a large percentage of their yield.

[Anonymous No.11589704]

>>11589644
It’s bee vomit

[Anonymous No.11589706]

>>11589566
>excess honey
No such thing. Bees literally work themselves to death to produce that honey to help ensure the hive's survival. By stealing their honey you are condemning thousands of them to death for each cup of honey you use.
If you eat honey - or condone its use in any way - you are a murderer.

[Anonymous No.11589709]

>>11588844
Vegans cannot, whereas if you follow a plant based diet that happens to be vegan you can.

[Anonymous No.11589710]

Veganism is the Harkness rule applied to food. If it can't consent, you can't take it's shit. Meanwhile if that cow is at least 18 years old, speaks english, and says oh yeah baby suck that milk out of my udders - then it's totally OK to drink milk as a vegan. Get to work, genetic engineers.

[Anonymous No.11589720]

>>11589710
Some day, anon, some day... vegans will finally get an acceptable vegan burger

[Anonymous No.11589723]

>>11589694
Back to school kiddo

[Anonymous No.11589738]

>>11589609
>not a thing. bees don't make that shit for fun
True, they make it because that's what they're instincts tell them to do. They don't fill up boxes and evaluate the quantity and say, "hey guys, we got enough made, let's take a break." There's only one queen producing brood so the hive stays in a relative population equilibrium barring disease. However, the bees will keep producing honey as long as they have a place to store it. Thus, although they'd never need it, after they fill the 2 large brood boxes they will continue making it in additional boxes that go on top. The bees will not miss that honey or suffer whatsoever from you harvesting it. And yeah, it's not uncommon to supplement with sugar water through the winter but if they have a large supply in the 2 brood boxes that's not a requirement particularly in climates with shorter winters.

[Anonymous No.11589750]

I think veganism is admirable but the honey bullshit is beyond stupid

[Anonymous No.11589763]

>>11589615
is he eating the leather furniture or wallet? if not then he can still be vegan

[Anonymous No.11589773]

>>11589699
Why do they make honey anyway? I know it's their food or wallpaper or whatever like beaver's dams but what else does it do?

[Anonymous No.11589797]

>>11589763
>a vegan with a leather wallet
Anon, you've never actually met a vegan, have you?

[Anonymous No.11590128]

Of course. no bee's were harmed in the making

[Anonymous No.11591471]

>>11589706
I had a girl in one of my classes say this exactly. She advocated for insect rights.

[Anonymous No.11591506]

>>11591471
Insects can blow me. As a kid, a bunch of ants attacked me while I ate a sandwich outside. So yeah, fuck em.

[Anonymous No.11591591]

>>11591506
That's racist.

[Anonymous No.11591592]

>>11588844
no, because bees can't give consent. it's no different than cow's milk.

[Anonymous No.11591609]

>>11591471
Vegans have some good points, but like every political, economic or religious philosophy they carry their attempt at consistency to ideals too far which make no practical sense and thus alienate the vast majority of sensible folk. It's the same reason both the political left and right, the abrahamic and muslim extremists are destined to fail.

Modification of the vegan ideal that animals should not be exploited to exclude concientious bee keepers and backyard chicken egg producers from the umbrella term "exploited" would go a long way toward making it more acceptable to more people in the long run.

tl;dr doctrinaire adherence to ideals w/o compromise results in the marginalisation of every social movement, and thus their ultimate failure.

[Anonymous No.11591620]

>>11591609
>Modification of the vegan ideal that animals should not be exploited to exclude concientious bee keepers and backyard chicken egg producers from the umbrella term "exploited" would go a long way toward making it more acceptable to more people in the long run.
Well-put and sensible. I completely agree.

[Anonymous No.11591644]

>>11588844
Depends on the specific mental gymnastics the particular vegan you ask feels like going through that day