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[Whisky No.11583028]

Never came to this board before, but I have to vent about this.

Who is actually stupid enough to drink any kind of whisky with water or ice on it?

Whisky is strong and all, but if your pansy ass can't handle it go back to fucking beer. You don't see me watering down coke because I think it has too much gas on it.

It's so stupid to order something just so you can sound like a bad ass, only to ask for some ice to water the bitch down, making it effectively taste like Oak tea with a slight hint of alcohol.

"Oh but people like the taste of it!"
So you either grow up to it or change to some other bar drink they might mix it with. That last one if fine because at least you are dissolving it with something, not just plain water.

tl;dr: why order something just to pour water on it?

[Anonymous No.11583034]

stupid alchie, locate your containment thread and never force me to see your posts again

[Anonymous No.11583041]

>>11583028
imagine thinking most people drink alcohol for anything other than getting drunk

[Anonymous No.11583045]

you do know you're supposed to lurk for a few months before posting on a new board... right?

[Whisky No.11583053]

>>11583041
I don't drink to get drunk either. Never have in fact.
But it sound so dumb to water something down. You are just making it worse with no added nothing. It ruins the intended taste for nothing extra.

[Anonymous No.11583056]

>>11583053
Huh?

[Anonymous No.11583067]

>>11583028
Preference of taste and experience.

It's like people who like cold lobster to warm lobster.

[Whisky No.11583071]

>>11583056
Basically I'm saying that mixing something in is nice and all, whatever.
But whisky and water just adds nothing to the mix and just ruins the intended experience from the drink for other reason than "I can't handle 40%".

[Anonymous No.11583080]

>>11583071
If I order soup, I want them to pour water on it. I don't want a fucking dry bowl of ingredients.

[Anonymous No.11583081]

I drink my whiskey neat almost all the time and only occasionally with soda water or in a cocktail, but I think you're fucking pathetic if you think drinking something a certain way makes you tough and manly. If you really want to be a badass why don't you drink exclusively cask strength? You know everything else already comes pre-watered down, right?

[Whisky No.11583089]

>>11583067
That is one thing.
Other is just watering shit down because you can't handle.

[Anonymous No.11583106]

https://youtu.be/ZH1t1gkig-k

[Anonymous No.11583108]

>>11583028
>he doesn't know that a bit of water helps to dilute the alcohol and open up the flavors
If you're not adding drops of water to your whiskey you're doing it wrong.

[Whisky No.11583110]

>>11583080
Water is part of the soup.
Bottled whisky is already a full drink ready to consumption.
Would you like more water on you soup until you can barely taste the ingredients?

>>11583081
Not manly, just objectively worse.
The reasoning is precisely that. "it's too strong, I can't handle".
If I did that to coffee would be weird, why is it different here?

[Anonymous No.11583115]

>>11583110
It wouldn't be weird to do that to coffee, it's called an americano and it's good.

[Anonymous No.11583128]

>>11583089
>can't handle it
What if I can but prefer it with ice

[Whisky No.11583129]

>>11583115
No wonder american coffe tastes bad.

[Whisky No.11583137]

>>11583128
Because it's colder?
Then Ice the cup beforehand.
Because of the water?
Then I'm sorry to hear that. Would like a cup of water with beer after that?

[Anonymous No.11583140]

>>11583129
"American" coffee is drip coffee, not the same as an americano which is watered down espresso.

So what kind of whiskys do you like, tough guy?

[Anonymous No.11583145]

>>11583028
Pubs around here aren't allowed to serve spirits neat before the late evening. It has to be in ice and mixed. Apparently the law regards all neat spirits as shots and can't imagine anybody just dwelling over a dram for half an hour.

The stupid thing is that whisky in ice has to be drunk more quickly. It's a race to finish it before there's too much water. I got one in ice and swallowed it in one gulp just to prove a point, although the bartender was already on my side. It's not her fault the government is run by idiots.

[Anonymous No.11583149]

>>11583145
I meant "in ice or mixed." You can have it without a mixer if there's ice.

[Whisky No.11583151]

>>11583140
I'm not saying I'm tough because of the whisky, I'm not tough at all to be honest.
Just seems really wasteful to drink things that way.

[Whisky No.11583154]

>>11583145
I agree.
I think ice is worse than water precisely because of your post. I don't want to rush my drink down my gullet.

[Anonymous No.11583155]

Why do you care how I enjoy a drink

[Anonymous No.11583157]

>>11583145
What shithole do you live in?

[Anonymous No.11583159]

backpedaling: the thread
OP's a big dumb loser

[Anonymous No.11583161]

You are literally supposed to add water to whisky. A few drops is all it takes to send your whisky to the next level of flavor

[Anonymous No.11583162]

>>11583110
If you go to an industry whiskey tasting, water is added to the whiskey. Adding water allows subtle complexities in taste to shine through, instead of the harsh taste of the alcohol dominating. The idea that whiskey is made to be drunk neat and that everyone else is doing it because they are a pansy is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.11583178]

>>11583028
Holy shit we have a live one here, barricade your button holes he is going all out.

[Whisky No.11583180]

>>11583162
Reeaaaaally sure it would water down the complexities also, because you know, water.
If the alcohol makes it hard to taste it, then just let it sit open in room temperature. The alcohol should evaporate with time.

[Anonymous No.11583181]

>>11583137
I don't know I just prefer it

[Anonymous No.11583184]

>>11583180
Holy fuck, no one is taking you seriously. You're completely ignorant yet trying to be the loudest guy in the room

[Anonymous No.11583187]

>>11583180
>the alcohol will evaporate with time

[Anonymous No.11583191]

OP here. I was just shitposting to get people mad. It looked like it worked. I am literally drinking my whisky with some ice in it right now.
Cheers guys, I was just joking.

[Anonymous No.11583200]

>>11583180
The complexities are watered-down but, due to the fact the alcohol is by far the premodimant taste, this is watered down at a faster rate than the flavour compounds. I'm not sure of the science of this but logically I think it makes sense. It's definitely true tho.

>evaporation
If the alcohol will evaporate, the volatile ester flavour compounds will too.The rate of evaporation is pretty low for both (probably higher for esters which generally form less H bonds and have long alkyl chains).

[Anonymous No.11583206]

>>11583191
Haha I was only pretending to be retarded I sure fooled them

[Anonymous No.11583235]

>>11583028
Depending on the whiskey, the water can help bring out the flavours in it.

Some are better neat - Glenfiddich and JD come to mind. Some improve with a splash of water - like Jim Beam, Crown Royal, or Walker's Red. If you're not really letting it sit around, ice is a good way to get that bit of water, and cool your drink.

If you're drinking straight whiskey to be a man, just do shots until you fall down like the other cretins. If you're drinking it because you want to savour your misery/victory, drink it the way you want... but if you find the flavour's lacking something, try it with a bit of soda/frozen/cold water.

[Anonymous No.11583365]

>>11583028
You put a little bit of water or ice because it allows you to really taste the whiskey without alcohol overwhelming all the other notes.

[Anonymous No.11583399]

>itt anon doesn’t understand there is only one way to enjoy something
It’s like you faggots don’t understand the proper way to eat pasta is with chopsticks

[Anonymous No.11583541]

>>11583399

[Anonymous No.11583555]

I drink my bourbon neat or with ice -- what pisses me off about ice is the melting, obviously. The first few sips on the rocks are perfect, but after that it's too watered down. I started doing neat with a tiny splash of cold Perrier sparkling water, which is a good compromise

[Anonymous No.11583556]

>>11583555
I'd rather have slightly diluted whiskey than cold whiskey, desu. Cold masks all of the good flavors.

[Anonymous No.11583629]

Chilling liquor makes it more viscous, resulting in a sweeter drink while the water runoff reduces the burn of the rye, etc.

I just like cold drinks, desu.

[Anonymous No.11583692]

For me, it's Uigeadail, neat.

[Anonymous No.11583734]

>>11583089
It's argued that drinking a spirit 'dirty', with ice or with a splash of water actually allows you to enjoy the flavor more because it's less harsh on the palate.
In other words, everyone is different, some people like the burn, others don't. It's also why some people like sugar or milk (or both) in their coffee and others like it black.

Scotch is actually best enjoyed cool or with splash of cool river water, hence the term, scotch on the rocks, back in the day the peat moss that grew in the highlands was only found near river beds, so distilleries were naturally near them for well, water, and because the moss would keep. People would take cold rocks from the rivers and put them in their glass to enhance the flavors.

In other words, enjoy your whisky how you like it fagget.

[Anonymous No.11583759]

>>11583045
that rule doesn't apply to 4channel

[Anonymous No.11583764]

>>11583028
Why are you so uptight as to care if they're paying the bill? Even you're paying why do you care? You come across as an uptight cunt.

[Anonymous No.11583770]

>>11583028
Are you so uptight that you really look at how other's drink? You must be a blast at parties.

[Anonymous No.11583777]

Whiskey she can love you in the evening
Whiskey she can love you all night long
But whiskey she don't love you in the morning
And whisky she don't love you when she's gone

[Anonymous No.11583813]

>>11583759
That rule applies on every board on these two websites. Especially on /ck/, which has a fairly developed culture. What, outing yourself as new or something?

[Anonymous No.11583949]

>>11583555
>what pisses me off about ice is the melting

[Anonymous No.11583956]

>>11583028
I bet you're a lot of fun to hang out with.

[Anonymous No.11584274]

>>11583028
It's personal preference you fucking moron. I don't know why I'm even seriously responding, you're probably just a mouth breather who thinks he's tough for preferring neat whiskey.

>Never came to this board before
Typical. Kill yourself.