/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11552726]

How does /ck/ feel about culinary school?

[Anonymous No.11552732]

>>11552726
We think it's a Jewish institution that brainwashes young kids into breeding out whiteness

[Anonymous No.11552738]

Expensive and when you are ready to finally get a job in a kitchen it is actually works against you because a great many chefs consider culinary students useless know-it-alls.

[Anonymous No.11552763]

>>11552726
For 90% of cooking jobs it isn't really necessary. You'll learn way more actually going out and working in kitchens. The other 10% is only for really prestigious hotels/restaurants that won't hire anyone without a diploma, and they do that mostly to weed out pretenders.
What matters more than a piece of paper is your work ethic, willingness to learn and a good reputation with former bosses.

[Anonymous No.11552787]

>>11552763
>What matters more than a piece of paper is your work ethic, willingness to learn and a good reputation with former bosses.

That sums up pretty much any trade.

[Anonymous No.11552796]

>>11552732
holy FUCK anon

[Anonymous No.11552802]

>>11552787
>someone posts legitimate advice
>UHHHH ACTUALLY WORKS THAT WAY WOTH EVERYTHING BUD STILL GOTTA DO IT
name five chefs that an american would know with a culinary degree

[Anonymous No.11552805]

>>11552726
I knew someone who did an 18 month program at Cordon Bleu and had $40,000 - $60,000 student loan debt because of it. The degree allowed her to make $10/hour as a baker at places like Panera Bread.

[Anonymous No.11552807]

>>11552802
>chefs that an american would know
Chef Boyardee
Ronald McDonald
Colonel Sanders
Wendy
The Burger King

check & mate

[Anonymous No.11552855]

>>11552802
WTF are you on about? The comment didnt say you did NOT have to have a degree, it said that what MATTERS MOST is your ability to learn, work ethic, attitude, ect...

It goes for wanna-be-chefs to transmission lineman to car mechanics, to crane operators... schooling is nice, but tis WHO YOU ARE that counts, not the paper.

[Anonymous No.11552876]

>>11552787
I wouldn't really trust a doctor that was like "I've never been to Medical School but I've got lots of on the job experience as an orderly"

[Anonymous No.11552953]

>>11552876

>dyslexia
the post

[Anonymous No.11552966]

>>11552953
>56% detected

[Anonymous No.11553006]

>>11552876
>I wouldn't really trust a doctor
You could have just stopped right there, no need to qualify it.

[Anonymous No.11553034]

>>11552876
>doctor
>a trade

[Anonymous No.11553243]

>>11553034
If you provide a service or product in exchange for compensation it's a trade. There's skilled trades and unskilled trades, but they're all trades.

[Anonymous No.11553255]

>>11553006
>My holistic crystal healer told me not to trust doctors.

[Anonymous No.11553266]

>>11552732
I had a black gf when I was in school. Like fucking clockwork.

[Anonymous No.11553285]

Take that as you will but every single culinary school grad I've ever met was an entitled cunt who thought he was in charge and didn't have half the work ethic he should've had in the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.11553299]

>>11552726
if you want to be a cook, just start as a dishwasher/prep, and if you show you're not an idiot and try even slightly more than average you'll move into pantry and then eventually line chef. don't waste ur money going to culinary.

[Anonymous No.11553383]

Is culinary school necessary to land more higher paying positions?

[Anonymous No.11553452]

>>11553255
>i accept whatever medicines my medfag, Dr. Sirini Prinhavatisu prescribes, because of course he doesn't get kickbacks from big pharma
Good thing you don't live in the US.

[Anonymous No.11553486]

>>11553452
But you don't live in the US, anon...

[Anonymous No.11553508]

>>11553383
Necessary? No. Helpful? Yes. Higher-end hotels and establishments use it to weed out first round underqualified candidates, but it won't guarantee you a job.
A culinary school might even get you placement as an extern somewhere, but it's up to you to actually keep that position. I used to work at Hyatt and every spring we got a fresh crop of externs and most of them washed out before fall. One guy got shit canned after a month because he threw a tantrum when Chef told him to help the stewards plate salads for a banquet.

[Anonymous No.11553534]

You get paid shit in the food industry, right? It's like a relatively easy to obtain job that pays slightly higher than minimum wage, but that's all?

[Anonymous No.11553543]

>>11553534
Waiters in high end restaurants can make a ton of cash but that's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.11553552]

>>11552726
Poverty wages for a diploma half as much as med school

[Anonymous No.11553566]

>>11553534
Yeah, pretty much. If you go to work for a big corporate hotel or an upscale dining chain like Palomino or Daily Grill you'll get paid slightly better and you also get benefits that you would necessarily get an independent restaurant or a mall-tier chain, but it's not a career path you follow to make big bucks. Most people do it because they legitimately love cooking or they're just kind of weirdo that can't keep 9-5 hours or play nice in an office.
Of the few friends I have still in the business, most work at corporate hotels and only one has actually become a head chef. The rest of us burned out on the line and went to do other things. Fuck, my old Sous Chef is now an agricultural biologist

[Anonymous No.11554741]

Does the prestige of a culinary school really mean much? What exactly do more selective positions look for?

[Anonymous No.11554826]

>>11554741
It's mostly about showing employers that you've at least been trained in the fundamentals of restaurant cooking. You can either do that with a diploma or a really side resume with real world experience. Top tier fine dining restaurants will probably expect applicants to have gone to a famous culinary school because they'll expect you to know a lot of different techniques that they know are taught in said schools, but real world experience and recommendations from established chefs will open a lot of doors, too. Plenty of culinary grads wash out as soon they hit the real world because they can't handle the stress and the shitty hours.

[Anonymous No.11554851]

>>11554826
Do you have time to work at least part-time at a kitchen while attending culinary school?

[Anonymous No.11554875]

>>11554851
Depends on the culinary school and how intensive their program is.

[Anonymous No.11554926]

Virtually all education is the same
80% or so of schools and programs are total garbage and a waste of money, you can get more knowledge and work your way up faster on the job. But there is that 20% that actually constitutes a good education. When you find that 20% it's totally elevating shit.

[Anonymous No.11555297]

>>11552726
the only acceptable culinary schooling is in the military
>>11552732
based

[Anonymous No.11555305]

>>11552726
Culinary school isn't even a year long.

[Anonymous No.11555312]

I took a catering class in high school and also home ec. they were fun

[PsilocybinScorpion !iBrsexlqMo No.11555338]

I'm a cook.
My head chefs been to culinary school. My room mates are in culinary school.
I have not

I'm a better cook by far.
They just call things fancy french/ German names

Coulis? Bitch it's just pureed mango. Stfu

Pic unrelated.

[Anonymous No.11555932]

>>11552726
needed for food related proffesions,
wont probably teach you something unique and/or unfindeable elsewere.
Good to have cooks learn to WASH THEIR DAMNED HANDS !

[Anonymous No.11555937]

>>11552807
lel

[Anonymous No.11556051]

I currently go to culinary school and it has gotten me jobs with Aramark and Disney, which then lead to having a beefy fucking resume so it's definitely not worthless.

Really depends on what you want out of the field.

[Anonymous No.11556134]

>>11556051
I'm so diamonds that African warlords are vying for control of my pelvis

[Anonymous No.11556164]

>>11552726
Get a fucking apprenticeship.

[Anonymous No.11556168]

>>11552876
>Doctors = cooks
If a cook fucks up I get a hair in my pizza. If a doctor fucks up I get undiagnosed cancer. It's a bit different.

[Anonymous No.11556178]

>>11556168
The stakes are every bit as high, anon. A cook who fucks up can get a lot of people sick or even dead.

But your conclusion is right, for a different reason. The body of knowledge required to be a safe cook is far far smaller and far far simpler than that required to be a doctor. It's not the consequences of a fuckup that are any different, it's the amount of learning required.

[Anonymous No.11556197]

>>11556134
Spoiler: she looks like a dude IRL

[Anonymous No.11557271]

>>11556134
It's a dude

[Anonymous No.11557274]

>>11556197
Id still smash

[Anonymous No.11557281]

It's fine if you come out actually knowing how to cook food. But if you just come out cooking gaudy gastronomical bullshit, then you should kys.

[Anonymous No.11557312]

>>11556197
This is a guy with Marfan Syndrome, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.11557785]

>>11555305
>Culinary school isn't even a year long.
What are you talking about? Mine was two years, plus a summer.

[Anonymous No.11558125]

Would you get much more out of a 4 year program over a 2 year one?

[Anonymous No.11558913]

>>11552805
Could've invested in an established bakery for that money and learned on the job. State.

[test !byCetda23s No.11559095]

test post please ignore

[Anonymous No.11559145]

>>11552726
The type of people who attend them are so fucking lazy and stupid half the time. Like maybe 1/3rd are literal 20 year old highschool dropouts whose parents would kick them out if they didn't go to school, but were too retarded to get into college. The other 2/3rds genuinely want to be there, but as others have said, would be better off starting as a line/prep cook somewhere easy to get the workflow basics down before trying for a job in an actual kitchen.