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What are you drinking today?

This is a thread for general discussion about tea, tisanes, and yerba mate.

FAQ: https://pastebin.com/4ZEuMwBJ (embed) (embed)

Pictured: Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong Lapsang Souchong tea in my brand new yixing pot!

>> No.11398963

This is the correct thread, I forgot to put /tea/ in the name in the other. Don't post in that one please

Can anyone post pictures of their nicely seasoned yixing pots? How long does it take to develop an aroma and coating with daily use?

>> No.11399185

>>11398953
>What are you drinking
beer.

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>>11398953
Both threads are wrong, newfriend. Also, be careful when you copy text and delete those (embed) next time.

But it shows up in the catalog so whatever, let's just keep this thread.

>> No.11399288

>>11399274
not new but oops, i give up not going to make a 3rd

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Some cheap Hawthorne berry tea I got from the local Asian market. Doesn't really taste like much desu.

Also picked up some persimmon leaf tea to try it. Probably won't taste that good either. But for $3.99 it doesn't hurt to try, you never know what you might find.

>> No.11399491

>>11398953
Jealous as fuck, lapsang souchong is my favorite black tea. Will have to order some with my next batch. Currently drinking some sencha because I don't have much else to choose from so will have to order more soon.

>> No.11399859

genmaicha is comfy af, should have tried this sooner

>> No.11400198
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Finally ordered a new electric kettle. It's one of those fancy ones that can do the different temps for different tea types (green, white, oolong, etc.). Also ordered three different sampler packs for tea bags: Twinings, Bigelow, and Ahmad. Only thing I still kinda want is a proper tea glass/cup/mug. I know sampler bags are only good for like 6-8 oz. at a time, but I eventually want to get something that can handle much larger brews (like 16-20 oz.) once I get my tastes narrowed down enough to move on to loose teas. Any recommendations for either?

Currently drinking this instant sugar-free crap I got from Walmart. It's okay for instant and sugar-free, but still prefer the actual southern sweet kind as it really gets me energized.

>> No.11400228

>>11400198
Lad...

>> No.11400234

>>11400198
Just skip the bags and go straight into loose leaf. Even loose leaf teas "naturally" flavored with pig anus extract would taste better

>> No.11400246

>>11399859
It is. Drinking Genmai Matcha right now but I think I actually prefer regular Genmaicha.

>> No.11400250

nothing, I don't have two wooden nickles to rub together.

>> No.11400420

>>11398953
I'm about to start with a basic Yunnan black to get a feel for gong fu.

>> No.11400486

>>11400420
pics please

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>>11400198
America: The Post

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What does /tea/ think of bubble tea? I had it once and thought it tasted like artificial sugary shit, but went to a nicer place with a chink friend recently and it was pretty good. Have been back a few times on my own.
I like the taro flavor, it’s got a nice cookie or nutty fragrance to it. Weird in a drink. And for the lumpy bits I like grass jelly, another flavor i’d never encountered before.

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>>11398953
drinking a real cheap commercial roasted tiekuanyin from china....just because

taste is astringent and very woody, but still drinkable. This whole 100g tin only costed me $3.60.

>Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong Lapsang Souchong
oh i miss that, had that in the past. That sounds so good for this time of the year.

>> No.11400740

>>11400198
just fuck my tea up

>> No.11400742

>>11400712
its basically the frappacino of tea, but yes there are varying degrees of quality for bubble tea. Taro is nice, so is chocolate. The better tea houses will have different bases for you to mix with rather than the normal black tea (oolong, tiekuanyin, jasmine etc), sometimes i get the plain ones just with bubbles.

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>>11398953
drinking a real cheap commercial roasted tiekuanyin from china....just because

taste is astringent and very woody, but still drinkable. This whole 100g tin only costed me $3.60.

>Zheng Shan Xiao Zhong Lapsang Souchong
oh i miss that, had that in the past. That sounds so good for this time of the year.

>> No.11400751

>>11400712
Overrated
HK milk tea is the only ”tea drink” I really enjoy desu

>> No.11400760

>>11400198
>much larger brews (like 16-20 oz.)

to be honest if you are doing that just get a low-mid range loose leaf. Even the lower grade loose leaf is 100x better than bags. Tea bags are tea dust, tea fragments, floor sweepings that they cant sell anywhere else.

>> No.11400777

>>11400712
>grass jelly
2nd only to pearls and better than pudding which is just weird

>> No.11401075

>>11400712
i like it more for the bubbles than for the tea, except at some more high-quality places where I live the milk tea is actually quite good and you can order it to not be so disgustingly sweet

>> No.11401123

>>11398953
Brewed some sencha first thing after waking up.
Having some iced peppermint now.

>> No.11401250

>>11401123
Well?

>> No.11401264

>>11398963
It doesnt take that long, maybe a few months especially if you buff it with a cloth dipped in some tea. Im talking about the outside btw, seasoning is mostly a meme and is even undesirable on high end clay, its the clay that smooths the tea not the seasoning, if anything the inner patina works against it clogging the pores, know a few people who reset their well used pots

>> No.11401591

Lipton black tea. Tastes the blood of a thousand colonized "peoples" in every sip™

>> No.11401838

Are tea bags acceptable if I'm a germophobe and preparing my tea at work?

>> No.11402285

>>11401838
Tea bags are never acceptable.

>> No.11402369

>>11401838
maybe you can try grandpa brewing

>> No.11402452

>>11400745
is dat a fidget spinner

>> No.11402455

>>11401838
If those germs can survive tea brewing temperatures you're probably going to die anyway.

>> No.11402468

>>11402455
>willingly ingesting sanitized fecal matter
fucking gross

>> No.11402554

>>11402468
good lord germaphobes are retarded

>> No.11402560

@11402554
there's no germs in it you shit-eating faggot, it's sanitized
i bet you drink your own piss too

>> No.11402572

>>11402468

Not to mention DDT, if that is chinese tea. I'd be much more concerned with how freely they still use DDT over there.

>> No.11402640

>>11402572
What country grows the safest tea? Japan?

>> No.11402669

>>11402468
>>11402572

>drinking the 1st steep

>> No.11403001

>>11401838
germs die at the temperatures at which you brew tea in teabags
>>11402468
>>11402572
>>11402640
https://pastebin.com/HHesBE36
tl;dr there's not nearly enough toxic stuff in chink tea to be even remotely harmful to a human, even a 1y/o baby who drinks half a liter of tea per day

>> No.11403060

>>11398953
I've bought a small Yue Guang Bai cake and some cheap da hong pao, I'm curious to taste both as I've never tried the first and I want to know if I got a good deal for the second

my supposedly high quality and high fired yixing teapot doesn't look much different from yours save for the texture, and if by seasoning you mean boiling then in tea liquor, that doesn't make them look very different at all

it took no more than a couple months for my other teapot (low fired, smaller) to stay making a noticeable difference in my tea using the same da hong pao in it, and the other one still isn't making a "big" difference after a bit less than a month

>> No.11403068

>>11398953
>What are you drinking today?
cheap green tea with honey, as in everyday since autumn begins.

>> No.11403339

>>11403068
Add ginger and you're me. Good taste, pal.

>> No.11403943

>>11403060
interesting

>> No.11404250

>>11402560
>@
?

>> No.11404390

cao lan dan cong from jiao di. anyone else tried it? says spring 2017 and spring 2016 on ys, not sure which one it is

>> No.11404401

>>11402452
I dunno man sure as hell look like one don't it?

>> No.11404734

>>11402640
Needless to say really, but organic tea from Japan.

>> No.11405003

>>11402452
yup. bought one for $2 to see what the zoomer fuss was about. Its alright.

>> No.11405945

>>11404250
uhu?

>> No.11405971
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Sheng puerh that I cant remember the name because my local store sells the cakes in their original packages.

Has an earthy and woody taste.

When brewing only for myself I usually use my ceramic gaiwan, when for two use pic related cast iron pot.

Have been thinking about getting that sweet yixing but havent gotten around it yet. Can anyone tell does it relly affect the taste? When using my cast iron pot, I can taste the iron in some more suble teas.

>> No.11406529

>>11405971
I hope she enjoyed the tea ^.^

>> No.11406676

>>11405971
>Can anyone tell does it relly affect the taste?
yes, mine does
even only for the convenience of having something to brew tea in, it was worth it
I got a cheap one though, and even this, most likely not real zisha but likely yixing still, affects the taste in a quite pleasant way, it makes the tea more full-bodied and a bit sweeter, without adding astringency or bitterness

>> No.11407092

>>11400712
Bubble tea is good. I like getting it with milk foam. It's definitely a bit overrated, but still very good.

>> No.11408261

I like Herbal Hibiscus Tea, does anyone have a website to get some high quality loose blends?

>> No.11408271

I'm drinking New Amsterdam gin and Monster Energy Zero Ultra

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post your battlestations lads

>> No.11408683

>>11402554
You ever work in an office? It doesn't matter how many times or how thoroughly you wash your hands. Your coworkers are taking shits, and then they're grabbing the same doorknobs and telephones and staplers that you're grabbing.

Retarded? More like #woke.

And I'd rather avoid germs with a teabag than a keurig k-cup.

>> No.11409222

>>11408683
how do you even live

god forbid you step onto public transportation or into a public pool

>> No.11409240

>>11408656
is that some wild (purple?) tea?

>> No.11409609

>>11409222
>public pool filled with urine and ass juice
miss me with that shit

>> No.11409697

>>11409609
Do you find your 'germphobia' something that restricts your life? Or do you just think that most ppl are too casual about such things?

I myself try to avoid using hand sanitisers, and just use water and soap sometimes to wash my hands. I see germs as something that test and strengthen my immunity.

>> No.11409818

>>11409697
I touch all the same things that you touch, including the seats and hand-rails and stop-buttons on the bus.

I just wait until I get home before I handle any food or drinks directly. Teabags make life easier by keeping a long string between myself and the tea.

>> No.11409871

>>11409609
>he hasnt been in a public pool on a hot day filled with kids where the water actually tastes salty

anon you must be envious

>> No.11409899

Currently some coffee. Got an extra day off work this week which was cool but because I'm a total drunk it wasn't good for my alcohol intake. I've definitely been on bigger and more sever benders. But still. Why can't I just drink like a normal person. Which is why I like work days. It physically wears me out enough that I drink a beer or 2 after work and call it a day. But if it's a day where my wifes at work and I don't have shit to do. It's on like donkey kong.

>> No.11410163

So, this just arrived super quick from China:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35-Different-Organic-Chinese-Tea-including-Oolong-Puer-Black-Green-Tea-Gift-215g/142725077826?epid=506736563&hash=item213b13db42:g:dOoAAOSwAXZa1WOd

/tea/ decides what I try first

>> No.11410185

>>11410163
wow thats an nice pack, i didnt know stuff like this existed, thanks anon
i would try the chao cha 1st personally. "炒茶= Fried tea" (roasted?) But only because im curious on how it compares to japanese houjicha and i cant decide on a first amongst the rest

looks like a blast to sample them all

>> No.11410200

>>11410185
I'll go with the chao cha, but I'm a tea newb so I won't be able to make a comparison, sorry senpai

>> No.11410225

>>11410200
thats okay, let us know how it and the rest tastes anon. Many of those are staples

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>I can’t brew loose leaf because of germs

>> No.11410303

>>11410287
>germs
most non green tea is brewed at just off boiling temps anon
you also dont drink the 1st steep
anything present in the tea is already long dead twice over before you drink anything

and in case you didnt know...the tea in teabags is bits and pieces off the packing process, fragments of tea leaves swept off the table and off the floor that cant be sold anywhere else...thats worse isnt it

>> No.11410353

>>11398953
im drinking rosemeer tea from my garden

>> No.11410357

>>11410303
>being so new he doesn’t understand green texting
yikes

>> No.11410362

>>11410357
>thinking there was anything wrong with my greentexting

ive been here since 2007 anon

>> No.11410369

>>11410225
Chao cha literally tastes like autumn, I couldn't describe it better. The smell of dry leaves, a pungent aftertaste of chestnuts all come togheter in every sip.

>> No.11410382

>>11410362
I’m not implying there was anything wrong with your greentexting, but you clearly didn’t understand mine.

>> No.11410385

>>11410382
oh i thought you were that anon

my apologies

>> No.11410400

>>11410369
that sounds nice desu
might just order it myself

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>>11410400
I recommend it.

This is the color it has after 6/7 steeps, still tastes good given a full minute at 95°.

>> No.11410433

>>11410369
sounds like roasted TGY

>> No.11410439

>>11410433
Will try it next.

>> No.11410628

All that talk about chao cha made me brew some houjicha. Damn it’s so comfy and delicious. I didn’t really care for it that much in the beginning but it has really grown on me.

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>the absolute state of my white2tea order
Do they think my pu'er cakes are just a kilo of fentanyl or something? How likely is it the tea will ever reach me? If not, can I get refunded?

>> No.11410738

>>11410725
Its somewhat common around this time of year, reason why I avoid buying around black friday too, happened to me with ys last year

>> No.11410748

>>11410725
Forgot to answer, itll return to the sender and they should resend it, if you dont want it then I guess theyll refund you, i waited for mine personally

>> No.11411133

>>11410163
In my experience these tien guan yin are way too floral. So keep that in mind.

The milk oolong should be pretty good. I'd go for that first. Da hong pao will probably feel quite smokey, if so, let it be for a couple more months before trying again. You want to taste the tea, not just the roast. Ripes are do or don't. I don't like them, my gf loves them. Rinse twice. I'd leave them for later. I enjoy young and old raw, but the bitterness and astringency are an acquired taste. In any case go for flash steeps (i.e. hot as fuck water, 4-5 sec steep, increase 1-2 seconds every time.) Rinse once or twice depending on tea.
Lapsang souchong is also very smokey, treat it as above.
Greens are my favorites so I'd recommend them second. Long jing, mao jian and bi luo chun are great. Take care of the temperature (max 85) and times (I'd suggest starting at 15 seconds for 3-3.5 grams of tea per 100ml).
Silver needle is amazing, but I'd leave it for last, it's very subtle and you might have trouble tasting anything if your palette hasn't adjusted to tea. I'd also go for 90oC water, instead of the usually recommended 75-80.

>> No.11411204

>>11409899
cool

>> No.11411276

>>11410303
umm you can't boil off DDT sweetie

>> No.11411474

>>11410628
same but oolong for me

>> No.11412324

what is the spookiest tea that you can drink

>> No.11412341

Great Value™ Decaf© Green Tea®

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>>11412324

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>>11398953
Is Upton Tea any good, at least as far as keeping their teas from picking up smells from other tea?
I'm pretty new to this, so I bought a bunch of samples from them. I actually like them all a lot so far, but the yunnan black dragon pearls taste so much like fruit that I kind of wonder if it picked up some taste/smell from some rooibos or something. I get more fruit taste than chocolate taste, at least. It's not bad, but is it supposed to be like that?

>> No.11412813

>>11412731
Nice haul. As long as the bag is sealed it shouldn't be picking up stray flavors. If you're worried keep the bags in separate areas or double bag them or some shit. Also not everyone has the same palate so maybe some flavors will stick out more to you compared to someone else. You can also try gong fu style steeping (lots of leaf + low water + short steeps), especially with compacted teas like rolled oolong, pearls/balls, pu'er chunks, etc. since their flavor will change as it opens up.

>> No.11413133

>>11412731
I don’t know anything about them since I’m Euro. It says on the tea description tho that it’s an infused tea. Personally I think infused teas are overwhelming and taste artifical. I’ve tried infused jasmine tea and infused milk tea, which are supposed to be more ”classic”. Couldn’t stand them.

>> No.11413503

>>11412731
What makes you think yunnan blacks taste like chocolate? In fact, most yunnan blacks I've tried taste like some kind of baked stone fruit or stone fruit jam. At times it might even feel like you're drinking hot fruit juice. Your sample sounds fine to me.

>> No.11413797

Are there any good places to buy tea in Europe? I can't even get most sampler sets from places listed in the FAQ without paying crazy VAT and import fees.

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For a decent cup of earl grey is there much better at comparable price point than Twinings?

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Anyone have any experiance with Russian Teas? Been drinking this for awhile. Picked it up in an import shop in LA. Also got the traditional jam used to sweeten it

>> No.11413876

>>11413797
What? I'm the anon who bought the 35 tea sampler and I'm from EU

>> No.11414097

>>11413797
>I can't even get most sampler sets from places listed in the FAQ without paying crazy VAT and import fees.
Welcome to EU.

>> No.11414133

>>11413876
Not that anon, how lenient customs are vary wildly in the eu from country to country

>> No.11414384

>>11413876
Well thanks, I haven't checked ebay, looks like stuff is cheaper there, plus free shipping. Still I can't get much in one shipment - anything over 20 euros gets taxed 21 % VAT plus 8 euros for "handling".

>> No.11414430

>>11414384
On their website sometimes is even cheaper.

You can also ask the chinks to lie about the price stamped on the package for custom purposes, on Ali they even send you smartphone for "19$" if you ask.

>> No.11414474

>>11414430
This is the norm in china orders but keep in mind some countries's customs wont believe some huge box is worth 20€ and ask you for a receit so they can charge you on the real value, but like i said depends a lot on the country

>> No.11414546

>>11414474
If you are so worried, try to contact the seller. This works 99% of the time on Ali, you ask a receipt for under 20$ for your big order, pay, spend the rest of the money on additional orders and then confirm you recieved them, even though they were never sent. Or you just wire them the remaining amount on paypal or similiar.

>> No.11414559

>>11414474
As for justifying the price, if you don't order 2kg at a time they will never know your dirty soup leaves are worth 100+$. Or you could ask the seller to mark them as low quality, like when you order a "broken" phone, kek.

>> No.11414866

>>11413503
The description for that tea on the website said it tastes/smells like chocolate, with hints of stone fruit. So that's why he expected chocolate

>> No.11414892

>>11413871
based and chai pilled

>> No.11414899

>>11413503
ive had yunnan black tea that tasted and smelled like chocolate, it was very very nice. Bought the same tea from same plantation 1 year later and i didnt get that taste again. Was sad.

>> No.11415015

these tea threads are a lot more popular than I thought they would be, and I learned a lot from them. would you guys say these threads got you more interested in or passionate about tea? they definitely have for me

>> No.11415025

>>11415015
+ the amount i spend on tea has increased a good bit

>> No.11415089

>>11398953
My go-to at the moment at work is bags (brewing loose leaf at my desk is too much of a faff) of green and matcha tea.

>> No.11415094

>>11413871
A samovar. Very nice.

>> No.11415317

>>11415094
It's a shame we dont see more of them in these threads. Theres such a focus on Eastern teas and traditions that many people seem to forget about the unique ways non-Oriental/Indian cultures consume it

>> No.11415341

>>11415015
yes
i was drinking green tea bags for health benefits until /tea/ showed me the light

>> No.11415782

>>11413797
Meileaf

>> No.11415903

>>11413871
I had some at a Russian deli in North OC. really good stuff! they take their tea seriously those russians

>> No.11416009

got a cheap ass french press thing as a gift a while back

would that be suitable for loose leaf? I don't have much of any use for it otherwise

>> No.11416068

>>11416009
it can be used for loose leaf in western style brewing, the same way as you would use a teapot. The only problem with french press is that theres no way to stop the steeping process unless you empty the whole thing (many modern teapots now have removable tea compartments).

if its a small press it'll be better, or you can just not fill it up all the way i guess

>> No.11416082

>>11416068
I’m one of those degenerates with no real upper limit on how bitter I’ll tolerate my tea, so that’s not a problem

Toss a nigga some suggestions on generally supermarket available stuff? Black is what I usually go for

>> No.11416086

>>11416009
there was a vid posted of someone using a french press for yerba mate

>> No.11416144

>>11416082
>generally supermarket available stuff

hmm the loose from twinnings is really not bad for a commercial brand, at least from what ive tried.

>> No.11416187

>>11416144
Twinning's is The Queen's Earl Grey, is it not? I consider it a reputable brand, at least consistent

>> No.11417083

>>11398953
Water

>> No.11417157

>>11417083
Protip: Try heating it up and adding some tasty plant material.

>> No.11417205

>>11415015
Glad they’re encouraging people.
These threads are way faster than they used to be a couple of years ago. I had a pause from this site until fairly recently and I was happy /tea/ still existed.

>> No.11417214

>>11416082
Just make sure to buy loose leaf and non-flavoured ones.

>> No.11417220

>>11398953
Oolong with a pinch of mint leaves tea

Love the flavor

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cheap cake for 23 dollars cad pretty nice

>> No.11417246

>>11417239
damn, looks dank

>> No.11417260

>>11399392
it is not tea, it is a Chinese medicine

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>> No.11417341

>>11398953
Every time I see the phrase yerba mate I imagine it's some strange Aussie slang
>Yerba, mate? Bonza arvo for a root

>> No.11417408

>>11417341
grouse and trueblue

>> No.11417512

>>11417157
Thanks for the advice mate. I just went on Amazon and bought 120 teabags of yerba mate mate.

>> No.11417718

>tea and biscuits

>don’t even dunk them and consume both separately

Devilish

>> No.11418524

>>11415317
We're just poor and don't have a babushka to give us treasures. I'd love a samovar but I have a $10 gaiwan. Such is life.

>> No.11418908

>>11417239
Sheng or shu puer?

>> No.11418968

>>11418908
package says shou(shu)
shou = 熟
sheng = 生

>>11417718
>dunk them
people do this??

>>11417267
hows the sencha

>> No.11419054

>>11418968
Shu is a good startingpoint but try sheng, its just better.

>> No.11419399

>>11415903
Hm where at in North OC? I went to this market in LA called Odessa grocery. Strangest neighborhood. Old Soviet and post Soviet immigrants mixed right next to a gay area. Fucking comical seeing some old babushaka just glaring daggers at the "Studs: Gay Movie Theater" across the street. But the area had some really good markets, delis, and restaurants. Shame it's all getting drowned in the tide of Hispanics, they dont exactly have the numbers to counter them

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>>11418524
Check on Ebay and other used sites. Theres a surprisingly high variety in both styles and price range. You have some fully modern electric ones and some traditional charcoal, wood, or kerosene burning ones. The price floor is a lot higher than a normal tea pot, but if you keep an eye out you can probably beat these prices. Most are going to run you at least $100 for something dependable and nice looking without being too elaborate. Once you start getting into the more intricate models your price range is essentially infinite. You want a matching hand painted Samovar set, cups, and plates with beaten Brass Chasings? $3,000 and it's yours.

I just checked google to see what was available and the absolute cheapest one I could physically find was a Turkish style modern Steel Samovar for $30.
>pic related
I've seen much nicer looking used Soviet or Russian electric Samovars on Ebay for between $40-60, although they are usually sold as just the large kettle without the matching smaller pot or cups. Keep an eye out if you want one. As with many things people sell, some won't care too much about the price and just dump it for cheap because they got a better one, or need the space.

>> No.11419700

>>11413871
after looking at this pic i can actually hear Katyusha playing

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>>11419399
http://www.moscowdeli.com

>> No.11420013

Stop shilling for subpar teas and subpar brewing methods.

>> No.11420050

>>11420013
?

>> No.11420221

i have some questions about the Confucian steeping in its barest form. lots of leaves, short time, multiple steeps, that sort of method.
well uhh, how much leaves per cup is fine?does it work with all kinds of tea (green, black, etc.)? does the temperature matter in the later steeps? how much time should I add to each steep?
thank you, in advance.

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>>11420221
>Confucian steeping
...do you mean gong-fu?

>well uhh, how much leaves per cup is fine?
Depends on tea. I use about 6-10 grams for one planned liter of water.

>does it work with all kinds of tea (green, black, etc.)?
Generally only works with chinese/japanese teas. Don't try that with indian/kenyan/ceylon teas.
Also, this method can really reward you for using good tea. Common grade Gunpowder will be meh either way. Nice Dragon's Well, however...

> does the temperature matter in the later steeps?
The temperature stays mostly the same. You could use slighthly higher in lats steepings, but not by much.

> how much time should I add to each steep?
For my teas, i add about 10 seconds at first and just eyeball some longer time at the end.

>> No.11420337

>>11420221
>Confucian steeping
kek, its kungfu/ gongfu brewing. (功夫茶)

>much leaves per cup is fine
it differs from tea to tea, but a baseline that i almost always start with is ~5g for a 100ml gaiwan. You can always go higher for pu'erhs and black tea (6,7,8g etc) and lesser for fine greens. Once I try out a tea I either stick with 5g or adjust future steeps. With pu'erh, oolongs and black tea you can normally get 5-8 steeps out of them easy

>does it work with all kinds of tea
yes, but many greens are nicer with grandpa style brewing or in a bigger teapot. I really dont like doing this with greens because they are so finicky and just slight changes in the temp or time is enough to turn it a bitter mess, especially in a small gaiwan. Leaves like Taiping Houkui or Long Jing is far more suited to a glass or mug.

>does the temperature matter in the later steeps
kinda, usually after 5 or 6 steeps i reboil the water remaining in the thermos so its piping hot again to draw out more flavour.

>how much time should I add to each steep?
i would say +15-30 seconds each subsequent steep after the 3rd steep. Just eyeball it, its not an exact science and teas vary. Some teas release faster and other teas have more mileage.

>> No.11420386

>>11420337
>[greens] are so finicky and just slight changes in the temp or time is enough to turn it a bitter mess, especially in a small gaiwan
While this is true, i also think well prepared green tea is most rewarding when prepared this way.

>i reboil the water remaining in the thermos
My senpai always taught me to never re-boil water once boiled. I never really saw the difference, but still occasionally throw away hot water and boil new pot instead.

>.Just eyeball it, its not an exact science and teas vary. Some teas release faster and other teas have more mileage.
QTF.
Enjoy and don't be afraid to experiment.

>> No.11420399

>>11419664
I worry about buying used since I've never even seen one, I'm not sure what I should be looking for to make sure I get a fully functional piece. A new, modern, electric model might actually be doable, thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

>> No.11420424

>>11420386
i tried a few greens, sometimes it turned out great when I get the temp and time just right and other times it is...urgh a big pain. I lack the patience for fine tuning (80% a pu'erh/black tea drinker). But yes maybe I should try them more this way. Do you use hot 90c-ish water and steep of about 10-20 secs? it depends right..?

>My senpai always taught me to never re-boil water once boiled.
ive heard this too but i dont really feel a difference either. I kinda feel bad for wasting water (especially if i take a break or dont drink that fast) so i just reboil it

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high altitude yamanashi green tea

awesome stuff if you're into the Japanese flavor profile

>> No.11420474

>>11420424
>Do you use hot 90c-ish water and steep of about 10-20 secs?
I prefer colder water and somewhat longer steepings for green teas.
My rule of thumb for temperature is: If i can put finger in water and keep it there until i can count to three. I steet about 30 seconds at first. I have rather large zhong, though.

>> No.11421047

>>11420283
Any particular reason why you don't recommend gong fu with indian/kenyan etc. tea? I've done cheap english breakfast on it and, of course, a lot more of the leaf goes past the lid and you need a strainer, but I don't think that's a big drawback.

I haven't actually bothered to learn how to brew anything other than gong fu so I can't compare them, does the taste change or improve noticeably if you brew them grandpa/western style?

>> No.11421825

>>11420050
Russian teas and Samovars.

>> No.11421844

>>11421047
All teas should be brewed gong fu style if you prefer that method. He’s talking out of his ass regarding that one.

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>>11421844
not all teas can or should be brewed that way

also many japanese teas are too fine and would be much better in a teapot instead of making a big mess all over in a gaiwan

>> No.11422077

>>11420386
>My senpai always taught me to never re-boil water once boiled
the only difference is that the water will have lost a bit more oxygen, you're unlikely to taste a difference unless the water has been boiling for half an hour
I remember reading that if you want to oxygenate water a bit you can pour it from a height, say 20 to 40cm from the pot, but I can't remember where I read this so take it with a grain of salt, try it some times and then disregard it if you see no difference
but don't do that with tea that requires boiling water to be properly brewed, as it will cool the water

>> No.11422093

>>11421854
You can brew gong fu style without a gaiwan, there are plenty of other vessels

>> No.11422378

>>11418968
not bad if u get used to Japanese green tea

>> No.11422432

>>11421854
What I'm asking is
>also many japanese teas are too fine and would be much better in a teapot instead of making a big mess all over in a gaiwan
Why? Do you use less leaf to water so it has more space in those 300ml pots? If the pot has a strainer anyway it's the same as pouring from a gaiwan to a cup with a strainer, so that can't be the difference.

I've never used anything but a gaiwan so I'm trying to understand the specifics, and maybe consider buying a teapot in case there's some major change.

>> No.11422442

>>11422432
Sencha has a lot of small particles, it clogs the opening of the gaiwan or just flows through into your cup, it can be fine with lighter steamed varieties but fukamushi is a big hassle

>> No.11422480

>>11422442
Wouldn't it clog the strainer in a teapot anyway? Placing a strainer on top of the fairness cup would solve the issue just as well, yes? I guess if a lot of the particle goes through then have less and less tea actually in your gaiwan and now stuck to the strainer after every successive brew, is that an issue?

>> No.11422731

>>11421854
So? He was talking about teas from India. Not specific teas like Sencha or Gyokuro.

>> No.11422876

>>11422480
Japanese teapots have fine filters, either sasame or stainless mesh for fukamushi , lighter steamed are usually ok with bigger holes, Im not saying you can't make it in a gaiwan, its just not ideal, I too improvised for a while before I got a pot for it and it was fine

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>>11420399
Most of the stuff you'd look for is either
>1) personal preference of shape etc.
>2) quality of materials, which can usually be judged by a visual inspection. Ideally in person, but online works as well.

The only thing you can really look for visually. is making sure it isnt built with subpar chinkshit materials, like Tin or Other shit/toxic metals. Aluminum is dependable, non toxic, and won't break the bank. Tin on it's own is worthless. Steel is dependable and cheap, but usually limits the set due to its weight to either being either smaller in size or mostly stationary. I've never seen one made out of iron but personally I'd avoid it if I did because it has all the drawbacks of steel plus the added problem of rust. Brass, Copper, and Porcelain are top tier but good luck spending less than $200

The only other things I could think of making a difference in performance or value would be
>making sure the spigot on the bottom doesn't leak excessively
>making sure any electrical wiring is working properly (for applicable models)
>make sure its well insulated both to hold heat and be safe to carry when full
>making sure there are no chips, cracks, or dents on the body
>make sure the top smaller pot fits snugly into the ring on top of the Samovar (pic related is how it should look. The boiling water below vents and keeps the tea concentrate on top hot)

Aside from the last 2, most of those things cant really be checked until you have it in your possession. How many people selling electric tea kettle of any kind post pics of the internal electronics for buyers to inspect?
>Tl;Dr: Check the material it's made of. Look at it visually. If it looks beat up and broken, it probably is. If it looks like it's in good condition, it *probably * is. And as usual, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is. If someone's selling their Grandmas 1890 vintage handpainted porcelain Samovar for $30, they're either retarded, or they think you are.

>> No.11423317

>>11421825
>shilling chinkshit
>1 Samovar post appears
>Reeee stop Gong Fu is onry Fu stupid round eyes

Spotted the chink

>> No.11423593

>>11422432
>use gaiwan with strainer
>half the tea comes out because too fine
>have to scrape the tea out of strainer and back into the gaiwan

its just a mess desu, i only do japanese teas in my little glass teapot with its own filter inside

>> No.11423969

>>11423317
Just stop.

>> No.11424205

>>11423969
You sperged first my man

>> No.11425418

>>11419054
>Shu is a good startingpoint but try sheng, its just better.

This is fucking retarded because they are nothing alike. Oranges are a good starting point but try peaches, they are just better.

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Tito's. It's a magic elixir and the only hard liquor that gives me virtually no hangover to speak of the next day. I mean I still have all the classic symptoms, but I just don't feel "bad" at all like from other liquor.

>> No.11425872

>>11422432
>>11422480
I'll echo those other anons and say Japanese teas just work better in teaware designed for them. It's why kyusu have the shapes they do. Either really flat or really tall, with fairly thin walls and a spout that gets very wide at the base. Steamed leaves become extremely soft when water hits them, so they're given a lot of room to pile up without blocking the spout.

A gaiwan would probably work fine for gyokuro. That's basically what a shiboridashi is. Though even those usually have a small spout or grooves to help the tea pour better.

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>>11398953
holy shit not /teagen/ in the OP
I almost had a heart attack when i went on ck this morning.

Welp. Sippin' on PickWick Tea With Fruit^tm
Lemon
100% Natural Black Tea

It's pretty based for bagged tea, I just let that shit sit and it doesnt get bitter at all, so is hydroponically grown tea i s'pose.

>> No.11426153

>>11426149
cup after cup i accumulate
I dont care about the date
it's just me n my mate
black tea
we set eachother free
sailin'
on
eachothers sea

>> No.11426254

>>11426149
What a punchable face you have.

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Bruvs, how do you make your iced tea?
Steep in ice water? Steep normally, then cool down?

>> No.11426368

>>11426340
>Steep in ice water?

i tried doing this with tea bags once (wasnt going to experiment with my loose tea) and it just came out really gross and off tasting. I think you need actual heat to pull out the full flavour of the tea.

>> No.11426656

>>11426340
Steep double strength then dilute with room temperature water.

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>>11426340
I just toss some leaves in this, fill with water and it's ready in a few hours

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>> No.11426864

>>11398953
Don't brew tea in that pot made of chocolate, it'll melt

>> No.11426886

>>11426149
my mistake, was a bit tipsy when making the thread and i messed up the topic/name

>> No.11426889

>>11426340
>tea
>water
>leave in fridge over night

>> No.11427029

>>11425599
throw some tea leaves in there and enjoy your infusion

>> No.11427043

>>11426254
Thank you. I'm honored.

>>11426886
hey, all goodie. Hopefully you were tipsy on the 'booch

>> No.11428352

>>11426813
looks chill

>> No.11428362

>>11426813
>lipton lemon green

my mom buys these
but cmon nigga u can do better, they are so astringent and not much green tea taste

>> No.11428739

Where is Father Wojack? I need to confess.

>> No.11428761

>>11398953
>chink tea


"no"

asians can't into tea, only euros can


t. thiele

>> No.11428772

>>11428761
china is the literal birthplace of tea....

>> No.11428789

>>11428772
that means literally nothing

>> No.11428794

>>11428789
thats like saying a diner off the highway in nebraska does italian food better than they do in italy.

>> No.11428804

>>11428794
That is a very plausible situation though and in my case, absolutely correct. asian tea sucks when compared to european black teas

>> No.11428810

>>11428804
lol

>> No.11428833

>>11428761
*adds sugar and milk*
*steeps tea for 2-3 mins to drown out nuances*
*only has a few varieties, one of them being a flavoured one*

>> No.11428847

>>11428833
>chinkboo gets salty over his superiors

lmao

>> No.11428862

>>11428847
>has no argument besides "its better because i say so"

>> No.11428871

>>11428862
besides you know

human history

>> No.11428889

>>11428871
history of what? that europeans have to get months-old tea from china and later india for thousands of years?

theres literally hundreds of tea varieties in china and japan, and each subgenre like pu-erh, oolong, green is another entire universe full of diverse tastes. Even india has their own chai teas. You're obviously just trolling because you're bored or whatever

>> No.11428905

>>11428772
>>11428833
>>11428889
Your mom must be so proud of you taking baits so easily. Yum, yum! Right?

>> No.11428910

>>11428905
whatever dude, get a life

>> No.11428926

>>11428889
>same leaf
>call it a different name
you're a fucking retard mate, obsessed with asians because asian girls are the only one who will let you touch them

europeans conquered continents and perfected the art of tea drinking

you're such a pedophile even the tea you drink is immature

>> No.11428971

>>11428910
>take baits easily
>waste time on them even
>even better, tell other dude to get a life

Can he reach the limit of irony? Is there even a limit for him?

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>>11418908
ya its a shou
>>11419054
i've tried them before and ehh some seemed better some seemed worse next time i order tea i will probably try more sheng
also here's another shou pu erh