/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11372182]

American here

Why do we like to put cheese in literally everything?

After reassessing my diet, I've found cheese to play a major role in what I eat. It's almost acting as a condiment of sorts opposed to sauces.

Why... why we do dis?

[Anonymous No.11372186]

>>11372182
Salt and fat do wondrous things to food.

[Anonymous No.11372189]

Because, my frightened little underage, it is not unique to America in the slightest. Even if that's what spastic Euros and Asians like to claim.
>>11372186
This desu ne.

[Anonymous No.11372192]

>>11372189

>underage

I have more hair on my ass than you do on your chest

[Anonymous No.11372194]

In the late 1970s, the Department of Agriculture noted a glut of dairy production and encouraged restaurant chains and packaged food producers to include more cheese in what they serve.

[Anonymous No.11372196]

American here

do americans really do this

[Anonymous No.11372197]

Because cheese tastes good? Because adding cheese to food makes it taste better? Would you rather have a sandwich with just ham on it, or with ham and cheese? And if it were a ham and cheese and bacon sandwich, would it not be even better?

[Anonymous No.11372202]

>>11372192
I have no doubt in my mind that is true, even if I do have a forest growing between my mantits. Groom yourself.

[Anonymous No.11372204]

>>11372197
>le bacon ^^
fuck off reddit

[Anonymous No.11372220]

Different American here. Why does most cheddar cheese have to be dyed orange? Personally, I hate it. Fuck you, anatto.

[Anonymous No.11372228]

>>11372220
>he doesn't like/can't taste annatto
Imagine not being able to enjoy life.

[Anonymous No.11372229]

>>11372220
Maybe people got tired of confusing the Jack or mozzarella with the cheddar?

[Anonymous No.11372233]

>>11372182
I live in Wisconsin and the italian chain around here features only 2 pasta dishes without cheese
It's nuts

[Anonymous No.11372244]

>>11372182
Most people who originally immigrated to America from Europe came from places with dairy cultures. Industrialization meant it was easy to produce large amounts of milk. Turning it into cheese is an easy way to make it last longer. There's nothing really wrong with it if you aren't allergic.

[Anonymous No.11372245]

>>11372189
No European claims that, we are major consumers and producers of all kinds of cheese.

[Anonymous No.11372256]

>>11372228
The former, and I think it ruins the taste of better cheeses.

>>11372229
Supposedly, anatto-dyed cheese was a way to fool people into perceiving an inferior cheddar as one with deeper color made with summer grassfed cow's milk. Which makes no sense to me at all in a better cheese that actually does have a deeper color without the anatto dye. The scam became the tradition. Now you can often spot a shitty cheese by how orange it is. I just read it's an allergen for a lot of people, too. It's fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.11372261]

>>11372245
I said spastics. Normal everyday Euros and Asians don't.

[Anonymous No.11372284]

>>11372182
Why do you put a full space between your sentences?
You can type like this, you do know that, right? It makes it less obnoxious to read.
Don't post here again. Or else.

[Anonymous No.11372327]

>>11372284
I'm reddit spacing.

And u.

Can't stop me.

More lines.

[Anonymous No.11372339]

Because big dairy told you to.

[Anonymous No.11372347]

>>11372182
I'm guessing you're not American, as this is a very low quality thread, and also just happened to be posted right when 'straya kids have their curfew. If you're actually an American, stop eating at Applebee's for every meal, or, you know, ever.

[Anonymous No.11372369]

Fat, salt and glutamate. It just tastes good and since genetically you are not that different to a human from 10.000 years ago, you are hooked on that sweet, sweet dopamine released in your brain from obtaining a rich nutrient source.

[Anonymous No.11372388]

>>11372339
wow 7 mil?

[Anonymous No.11372495]

>>11372339
Green vegetables don't provide all the benefits that milk can. Green vegetables are still healthy and you should eat them, though. It's just silly to claim that they both do the same thing.

Maybe most people shouldn't be drinking milk, but that doesn't mean it's bad for everyone. If you look at the global population, it's a small percentage of people who evolved in areas with a focus on dairy and can digest lactose past childhood. It's probably okay for these people, they literally adapted to be able to consume it.

[Anonymous No.11372503]

>>11372182
No such thing as cheese in the USA.

[Anonymous No.11372535]

>>11372388

7 million isn't a lot, but it kind of is when it's only split between the small handful of senators and congressmen needed to pass favorable laws for the dairy industry.

Not to mention that $7 million doesn't even account for non-monetary gifts, or perks. Our entire government is corrupted to the core. A bureaucrat is a criminal in a suit.

[Anonymous No.11372615]

>>11372339
>none of the risks
???

[Anonymous No.11372625]

>>11372615
milking a cow can be dangerous

[Anonymous No.11372633]

Is this strictly American phenomenon?

[Anonymous No.11372658]

>>11372182
Many societies relied on dairy for nutrition

[Anonymous No.11372665]

>>11372495
The ability to digest lactose is not indicative of the ability to maintain health whilst digesting lactose

[Anonymous No.11374394]

>>11372204
>Bacon is bad
What is this meme?

[Anonymous No.11374420]

>>11372665
Also lactation pills exist

[Anonymous No.11374436]

>>11372182
Eat more Asian food, in which dairy is practically absent

[Anonymous No.11374444]

>>11372339
>he thinks that milk is bad
I'm not an americuck like you, my forefathers have been drinking milk and consuming dairy products for countless centuries. As brown as my skin and the shit upon my street, I say without any hesitation that milk is one of God's gifts to mankind.
Only a nigger would refute this.

[Anonymous No.11374481]

There's 87.73 cows in the U.S. with four penises each. That's four cocks giving us glorious yellow semen in a million types of cheese. If we didn't eat all that cheese there would be an over production of cow semen and an over production of cows in the U.S. . There's no better way to heard the cows than to eat their children before getting to the point of having to shoot them like we need to dear and turkey when they over populate. We have forts for herding cows and developing cheese and other dairy products as seen in exhibit A.

Do your country a favor, and eat some cheese anon.

[Anonymous No.11374497]

>>11372182
america was colonized by central european farmers who farmed some european and many native crops
the land they couldnt farm was used for pasture and there was an abundance of sorts in milk because male calf were usually slaughtered
thats how i understand some national products
its the same with potato dishes in ireland, england, germany

[Anonymous No.11374502]

>>11372244
yea this is the correct answer

[Anonymous No.11374522]

>>11372369
ive been trying to break the conditioning, but its hard
im doing so by eating healthy foods loaded with vegetables and foods rich in complex carbs/dietary fiber because thats what the gut needs to be healthy, its what gut bacteria live on and its only logical once you look at great ape diets - about 90% green leaf vegetables
but damn, salted nuts, cheese, butter, jesus fucking christ
the only thing that keeps me from eating like an idiot is how i feel after, my gut gets all inflamed if i live on a beer and grilled cheese, steak and pasta diet for a week
so thats how im tring to break the cinditioning, by linking (chainlink) the feeling i have after a healthy meal to that meal
its semi working

[Anonymous No.11374527]

cheese and meat are good for you
carbs will mess you up

[Anonymous No.11374536]

>>11374527
this is bullshit
your gut loves complex carbs, such as beans, lentils, corn

[Anonymous No.11374544]

>>11372182
Where else can I get 7 grams of protein in just a small cube that tastes so good?

[Anonymous No.11374547]

>>11374536
>your gut loves complex carbs, such as beans, lentils, corn
My ass and nose doesnt though

[Anonymous No.11374578]

>>11372186
there was no reason for this thread to continue beyond the first post
if you learn how to salt/season your food properly and maintain a balanced diet, you won't feel the need to add cheese, ketchup, and other culinary crutches to your food

[Anonymous No.11374596]

>>11374578
the us isn't even the top 10 cheese eaters.

[Anonymous No.11374600]

>>11374547
its much worse if you eat meat and cheese only, you mong

[Anonymous No.11374602]

>>11374600
I can assure you it isnt

[Anonymous No.11374608]

>>11374602
u know if the bacteria that live in your lower GI dont get enough food, they swim up to your upper and start eating your gut essentially.

[Anonymous No.11374642]

>>11372182
>After reassessing my diet

No red-blooded American does this
Yuropoor detected

[Anonymous No.11374650]

>>11374578
But what if I just want cheese?

[Anonymous No.11374677]

>>11372339

People ate dairy VOLUNTARILY for ages because it fucking tastes good, not due to dairy "propaganda" and "nutrition."

Just like how people eat meat because it tastes GOOD, not because of protein. I don't give a fuck about your dumb "crickets are much more efficient source of protein blah blah" arguments. We eat steak because it tastes GOOD. Make crickets taste better and I will voluntarily stop paying for the environmentally damaging and nutritionally inefficient meat industry.

[Anonymous No.11374690]

>>11372182
I don't really like cheese

[Anonymous No.11374743]

>>11374420
You're not wrong anon, but that is not the proper word for what you think you're describing

[Anonymous No.11375251]

>>11374527
>carbs will mess you up
Maybe an excessive amount of refined carbs will. But too much of anything will be bad for you.

[Anonymous No.11375609]

>>11372182
I don't but fat Americans do because they don't know how to make good food so they smother it in cheese.

[Anonymous No.11375616]

>>11374677
>and I will voluntarily stop paying for the environmentally damaging and nutritionally inefficient meat industry.
At least you are aware of this much.

[Anonymous No.11375642]

i got cheesed out at some point. especially with breakfast stuff. at this point i just ask for it to be left off, otherwise it crowds out/overwhelms stuff.

[Anonymous No.11375656]

>>11375616
Yeah I'm not dumb. I just find it funny how out of touch vegans are from the meat-eating majority. They don't understand that most meat eaters eat meat simply because it tastes better than the more environmentally responsible alternatives. Their common online info-graphs about how inefficient the meat industry is with water/energy is going to convert literally ZERO meat eaters to veganism.

Anyways, I support vegans that go vegan on the grounds of environmental concerns. Ethics ("those poor innocent animals") vegans can go fuck a pinecone.

[Anonymous No.11375671]

cheese = death

I never eat cheese.

[Anonymous No.11375680]

>>11375671
mind blown

[Anonymous No.11375686]

>>11372182
I haven't eaten sugar, dairy, or grain products for a decade. Once you get over those two things and get your diet straight you'll feel a shit load better in every regard.

[Anonymous No.11375720]

>>11375686
Can you give me a rough idea of what you do eat on a daily basis then? Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.11375727]

>>11374578
>crutches

enjoy your plain fries loser

[Anonymous No.11375730]

>>11372182
because cheese is good

[Anonymous No.11375735]

>>11375686
I feel fine when eating whole grains and dairy, but sugar makes me feel bad. Everyone is different.

[Anonymous No.11375759]

>>11372339
>Harvard
My cousin went there and can't tie her own shoes. I don't know why that place is on a pedestal other than being old

[Anonymous No.11375803]

>>11372182
>American asking about why his country does x that other countries don't do but has never left the fucking country before or heard enough about people from other countries, so the idea he presents is just a fucking muddled stereotype of America compared to other countries

Underage banned. Come back when you have actual world experience and aren't perpetuating stereotypes to europeans etc because they miss the ingrained stereotypes Americans have with their own country as well as things like individual experience, exaggeration, etc and assume you have some authority to talk about this as you are an American even though you can't compare countries for shit.

[Anonymous No.11375850]

It's not so much the use of it as the ingredients in American cheese.
The cheese in America is too fatty. All of the milk-fat taken out of other products goes directly into the making of American cheese. That's why it isn't healthy.
Other nations only use 1/3rd of the fat.

[Anonymous No.11375964]

>>11372202
He who cleans his home is clearly expecting a visitor

[Anonymous No.11375979]

>>11372182
>cheese is a condiment
this changes everything

[Anonymous No.11376135]

>>11372229
Real mozzarella looks nothing like fucking cheddar.

[Anonymous No.11376165]

>>11374394
There was a point where bacon had an entire subculture around it on the internet. I'm assuming it was also a big thing on reddit. Nothing riles up the autists more than reddit so they pretend that bacon is bad to seem different.

[Anonymous No.11377068]

>>11372197
>And if it were a ham and cheese and bacon sandwich, would it not be even better?
Not necessarily. Meat, fat, salt, and smoke taste good but if that's all there is I start wanting some crispy refreshing vegetables and vinegar to balance it out. I'd probably rather just have the ham and cheese with mustard and pickles, and maybe a bit of thin sliced onion.

[Anonymous No.11377137]

>>11372256
>an allergen for a lot of people
Subhumans with food allergies aren't people.

[Anonymous No.11377142]

>>11374444
>quads of 4 on 4chan
It's a sign! This is the 11th commandment.

[Anonymous No.11377326]

>>11375735
This, sugar makes me feel terrible. If I eat too much in a short amount of time I break out into a minor cold sweat. I have no idea how people can eat 60g+ in a 5 minute sitting without feeling awful.

[Anonymous No.11377392]

>>11375656
>Their common online info-graphs about how inefficient the meat industry is with water/energy is going to convert literally ZERO meat eaters to veganism.
Not sure I agree. These people were once meat eaters and something converted them. There are definitely meat eaters who are ignorant to its effects on health and the environment, and I imagine at least some of them are unhappy with it.

[Anonymous No.11377405]

>>11372182
There was a trend of drinking skim milk at some point in America, and the food industry found itself with excess dairy fat. To find use for it, the industry started making "cheese" out of that fat, and started marketing that product as a staple of American diet. Stuff like "grilled cheese sandwich is THE American breakfast meal!". People bought into it, and the fat moved out of their milk and back into their diet.

[Anonymous No.11377511]

>>11377392
>These people were once meat eaters and something converted them

Yeah, an appeal to emotion. The MUH ENVIRONMENT bullshit is something they add to their ideology after that.

[Anonymous No.11377517]

>>11372182
Because cheese is fat and fat carries flavor.

[Anonymous No.11377553]

>>11372182
We learned it from mom and dad. Who learned it from their parents who learned it from their parents who learned it from their parents who were European.

[Anonymous No.11377574]

>>11372182>
>"American"

[Anonymous No.11377578]

>>11377574

[Anonymous No.11377651]

>>11374608
Really?

[Anonymous No.11377714]

>>11375727
I legitimately like unsalted fries.
Not for health reasons or anything. I just like the potato taste. Reminds me of Chito

[Anonymous No.11377716]

I thought the French were known for cheese and butter - when did those suddenly become a bad American thing?

[Anonymous No.11377717]

>>11377578

[Anonymous No.11377725]

>>11377392
Yeah I concede that at least SOME people were converted to veganism from the "muh environment" rhetoric, but vegans still highly underestimate the fact that meat tastes much better than other foods. Most people just can't break from the meat-eating habits due to this single reason.

[Anonymous No.11377732]

>>11377717

[Anonymous No.11377737]

>>11377732
>Every day, I have to remind myself not to think about Rotherham

[Anonymous No.11377742]

>>11377732
>this seething Yuropedan

[Anonymous No.11377752]

>>11377737
Who the fuck is Rotherham?

[Anonymous No.11377757]

>>11377742
Pretty sure the coon got shot.
Both of them.

[Anonymous No.11377761]

>>11377732

[Anonymous No.11377764]

>>11377732
Looks just like London. Imagine that. It's almost like there's a connection, but I can't quite put my finger on it.....I wonder what it could be.

[Anonymous No.11377765]

>>11377737
>drug addled chav slags getting raped by pakis
None of my concern, Cletus. You seem more interested in these types of people than me.

[Anonymous No.11377768]

>>11377764
London is a multi cultural shithole.
This is not news to anyone.

[Anonymous No.11377774]

>>11377768
In your grandparents time, it wasn't. Two generations ago.

[Anonymous No.11377775]

>>11372339
>7 million dollars!

[Anonymous No.11377793]

>>11377774
That's why I said is rather than was.
Retard.

[Anonymous No.11377799]

>>11377774
>two generations ago
Someone has clearly never heard of Windrush.

[Anonymous No.11378621]

>>11377326
It makes me feel restless and makes my chest feel tight if I eat more than 10g of it or so. You can actually build up a tolerance to sugar intake like alcohol or drugs which is probably how they're able to consume so much. It's a bit sad because I'm sure a lot of people would like to consume less but feel worse when they try to stop just like with other addictions.

[Anonymous No.11378641]

>>11376135
you're absolutely right, the consistency is way off too. I was thinking of the cheap stuff when I wrote that.

[Anonymous No.11378652]

>>11377392
I love my vegan diet. I try to converse with people that their dietary choices have a huge impact on how they feel. Outside of that I rarely push my vegan views on others. As much as I frown upon the needless suffering of animals, I think it's wrong to try to force people to see things from my perspective. With time I do think more people will eat less meat, but this requires veganism to be pushed in a less militant way.

[Anonymous No.11378661]

>>11378652
Congratulations on being the 21st century temperance movement I guess

[Anonymous No.11378806]

>>11378621
I imagine those people are used to the effects of elevated blood glucose. For people like us it simply makes us feel sick. I didn't realize until I stopped drinking soda and eating sweets how bad it constantly made me feel. Nowadays I eat meat, fish, vegetables, potatoes, along with a small amount of dairy, and I feel pretty great. Soda, sweets, and bread should only be eaten in a small fraction people eat them in.

People will say paleo is a meme and I agree, but some of it is true. Our bodies are very good at adapting, but we simply haven't caught up to eating this large amount of sugar and refined carbs. The diet most people have now is unprecedented. I wonder how our genes will look like in several thousands of years, and how our bodies will adapt to this high-sugar exercise-deprived lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.11379942]

>>11372182
>implying Americans eat cheese

[Anonymous No.11379999]

>>11372192
fun fact: i actually started getting a hairy ass a few years before i got a hairy chest. the real man's final boss bodyhair is on the back, though