Now that the Americans have gone to bed, can we have a wine thread?

[Anonymous No.11360148]

What's everyone drinking?

[Anonymous No.11360150]

>>11360148
Carlo Rossi burgundy

[Anonymous No.11360153]

>>11360148
>europoors in charge of knowing time zones

[Anonymous No.11360163]

>>11360153
It's a bit after 2 pm here in texas. It' just after noon on the west coast. Nobody ever said eurofaggots are intelligent.

[Anonymous No.11360168]

Lmao retard europoors cant even time right

[Anonymous No.11360173]

>>11360168
Don't be too hard on them....they use the metric system. Tee hee

[Anonymous No.11360208]

mods are asleep it seems.

I'm not drinking because it's 3:17 in the afternoon here in east clapistan, but I'm going to grab a moulin a vent later.

in during flyovers getting fanny flustered because they can't name any wines

[Anonymous No.11360219]

For me, it's Franzia

[Anonymous No.11360252]

>>11360148
Cheap vodka and these bad boys.

[Anonymous No.11360255]

>>11360219
Peter vellafags btfo

[Anonymous No.11360257]

12:30pm here numbnuts. Go swallow a knife ;)

[Anonymous No.11360264]

>>11360219
GOON

[Anonymous No.11360267]

Anyone recommend me a standard easy to find red wine for cooking and drinking? Wanna make a recipe and might as well have a swig

I also have goat cheese in the fridge. Does that pair well?

[Anonymous No.11360348]

>>11360148
Only the finest wine.

[Anonymous No.11360369]

>>11360257
>swallow a knife
he'll need 30 permits just to buy one so you're out of luck

[Anonymous No.11360370]

4 till 3 P.M. here in the deep Southeastern United States. Who goes to bed at 3 in the afternoon? Eighty-year olds?

[Anonymous No.11360374]

>>11360252
that's the stuff

[Anonymous No.11360411]

>>11360348
Oy vey, the shoah

[Anonymous No.11360433]

>>11360148
This American is still allowed to stay up late and enjoy this fine box of wine.
I know the finer things of life.

[Anonymous No.11360434]

Love me some Nero davola

[Anonymous No.11360445]

>>11360411
Jew Yorker here. Jews who pretend to care about wine usually drink stuff like Yarden or Castel. It's still boiled nasty dreck, but the crazies who go to special "kosher pizzerias" in Midwood or "kosher dosa" in Curry Hill love the stuff.

99% of manischewitz is bought by flyover kikes who don't know any better and need something "Jewish" for the holidays, or whatever the current equivalent of hipsters is, pretending they're doing it for laughs as opposed to being broke.

[Anonymous No.11360451]

if you live in an area that has a vineyard, it's always fun to head over for a tasting. they tend to have good hospitality too.

the trick is to catch them in their growth period after the area becomes established but before it turns into douche/snob city

[Anonymous No.11360469]

>>11360451
>they tend to have good hospitality too.
Lol, try having a tasting at any of the big names in Napa. Might as well be the walmart checkout counter

[Anonymous No.11360488]

Lemme just crack open a sparkling moscato with the boys real quick

[Anonymous No.11360509]

ITT: Butthurt europoors from 2017 Cal savs dominating quality

[Anonymous No.11360518]

>>11360509
Yoy mean cab savs from california?

[Anonymous No.11360519]

cum

[Anonymous No.11360530]

burger here
i've always wondered why wine is marketed and perceived as a women's drink in this country
sure it can be sweet and fruity but its twice the strength of regular beer so how exactly is that a pussy drink?
i can't even drink wine though because my stomach hates it so i'll stick to beer

[Anonymous No.11360548]

>>11360530
Its only considered that if you dont live somewhere with lots of southern Europeans. Where I live theres a bunch of old men that ferment their own and distill their own aguardiente

[Anonymous No.11360550]

>>11360530
Same reason yogurt is a special health food for keeping women's vaginas clean, and vegetables are a kind of emergency medicine to be eaten under duress, with strict medical supervision, in response to a life threatening health crisis. Rare steak and whisky, and a glass of the soft stuff for m'lady.

tl;dr: flyovers are stupid.

[Anonymous No.11360552]

>>11360530
Yours is the nation where men everywhere feel like you have personally photoshoped their face into gay pornography and sent it to their homophobic mother if you order anything other than Budweiser in their presence.

[Anonymous No.11360639]

>>11360530
Flyovers that's why

They'll die off soon enough

[Anonymous No.11360690]

>>11360519
Plot twist-vacuum sealed from last months Bukakke

[Anonymous No.11360696]

>>11360148

[Anonymous No.11360708]

>>11360696
Nice. I prefer bud just because theres is saltier

[Anonymous No.11361053]

>>11360148
>screw cap

[Anonymous No.11361131]

>>11360469
Sadly Temecula wines turned into this about a couple of years ago. Before, you could talk to the vineyard owner and he'll give you free tastings and would even toss in a couple of free bottles if you bought a case

[Anonymous No.11361260]

Just polished off one of these bad boys. And we aren't asleep, you can't escape us.

[Anonymous No.11361265]

>>11361260
Fugg forgot pic

[Anonymous No.11361439]

>>11361053
>closure type accurately denotes quality

[Anonymous No.11361758]

>>11360148
I was drinking wine yesterday but it’s vodka tonight.

[Anonymous No.11361818]

>>11361439
screw cap wines don't experience micro-oxygenation, which means they don't soften with age
not that that's necessarily indicative of quality, but still

post a number, get a wine

[Anonymous No.11361863]

>>11360252
I'm more of a steel reserve man myself

[Anonymous No.11361871]

>>11361818
cam whore

[Anonymous No.11362089]

I had a glass of Malbec to accompany ribeye for dinner, but I'm drinking rose now. Doesn't taste as good as I remember though, maybe it just has to chill longer.

[Anonymous No.11362190]

>>11360469
agreed, which is why I mentioned visiting in the sweet spot era

>>11361131
yeah, the level of douchebaggery I experienced on my last visit soured me on a couple of wineries there.

[Anonymous No.11362194]

Just got out of rehab. ama

[Anonymous No.11362199]

Castilero Diablo merlot. Gets the job done.

[Anonymous No.11362207]

>>11362194
How much did you drink? How much do you have to drink to be a real alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.11362231]

>>11362207
all of it.
2 gallons of vodka a day is a good goal.

[Anonymous No.11362885]

sampling the 2018 Cloudy Bay. They only just started the announcements and press rounds this month, so i'm not sure if it's on general sale yet.

Also very excited to try this from Ridge Vineyards.

[Anonymous No.11363174]

>>11360639
No they won’t. The rest of the US is going to look like Detroit soon, with just as many wild negroes.

[Anonymous No.11364273]

>>11363174
That's nice grandpa

[Anonymous No.11364282]

>>11361818
>drinking a CdP after 2 years
Lol, let me guess you're british

[Anonymous No.11364288]

>>11362885
>NZ sauv blanc
Pic related
>ridge
I assume that was a gift, cloudy bay drinkers lean more towards the 7 deadly zins side of things

[Anonymous No.11364962]

I'm studying to be a sommelier.
Does anyone have suggestions for good books on the subjects of terroir, varietals, appellations, etc? Is anyone on /ck/ a certified level 1 (or higher)?
Pic not related, just the first wine bottle in my /ck/ folder. IF ever a bourbon barrel cab was not a meme, it would be this one.

[Anonymous No.11364982]

i was getting into south african white wine. chenin blanc i think it was called. cant find it anymore though, probably because they killed all the farmers.

[Anonymous No.11364985]

>>11364982
South African whites are garbage, stick to the coloured wines

[Anonymous No.11365008]

Never pay more than 10€ for a bottle of wine.
Shit you can even get decent wine for less than 5€
t. son of wine farmer

[Anonymous No.11365032]

I only drink wines that were produced in my area. What am I missing with the French, Spanish, and Italian wines?

[Anonymous No.11365308]

>>11364962
Wine Bible

[Anonymous No.11365347]

>>11360348
Your father smelt of elderberries, and you mother is a hamster!

[Anonymous No.11365391]

all wines taste the same, except for red vs. white

fight me

[Anonymous No.11365401]

>>11365391
you are a good person and will find happiness. have a wonderful day!

[Anonymous No.11365677]

What’s South American wine like? I have a strong urge to try it, and I don’t know why

[Anonymous No.11365713]

>>11365677
argies make mostly clumsy, heavy, unpleasant boozy juice bombs with too much oak, when people say “old world” to describe new world wines they mean to distance themselves from what argentina is famous for. the torronres is alright though.

chile makes some reasonable bordeaux knockoffs, just don’t be too stingy or it gets thin and grassy. cough up $20 or so and you’re safe

[Anonymous No.11365810]

wine noob here
looking to try a dry white wine with maybe a light sweetness
throw me some suggestions
i live on the west coast, usa if that helps

[Anonymous No.11365817]

>>11365810
forgot to say my budget is $15 or less

[Anonymous No.11365853]

>>11365817
forget local stuff, west coast doesn't really do good whites at a low price point (really doesn't do any good wines at a low price point, but especially not white wines), they lack acidity which is an absolute necessity for any off-dry white wine to not be gross

I'd like to recommend an entry level hugel field blend or one of the cheaper PGs or gewurztraminers from schlumberger, here on the east cost you can pick those up for under $15 but it may cost a bit more out there

[Anonymous No.11367356]

>>11360208
>banning people for posting wine threads
For what actual reason?

>>11360148
Having a few friends by tomorrow to drink and cook, and got a few fairly unusual bottles for the occasion. They're things that I really enjoy, but that most of them haven't tried yet, so it should be fun. Have a bottle of Radikon Oslavje (heavily aged skin-contact white wine from Friuli in Italy), a bottle of chateau chalon vin jaune (white wine made from a grape called savagnin in Jura, France, and aged in barrels that are never topped up, so it develops a 'skin' of yeast like some sherries), a bottle of volcanic soil Aglianico, and to cap it off, a bottle of 65 year old frasqueira Verdelho madeira I've been looking for a reason to open for ages.

[Anonymous No.11367756]

>>11367356
because alcohol triggers the mod, and the word "general" doubletriggers the mod

[quiche !!T2UdrWkLSWB No.11367816]

>>11360208
ye oui
are you getting a negociant or own vinyard beaujolais?
I'm a big fan of Fleurie and Morgon, but most of the Cru Beaujolais have good producers (H Fessy is always solid)

[Anonymous No.11367841]

>>11360552
Maybe poor people do that. Everyone I know drinks Sam Adams.

[Anonymous No.11367847]

>>11360639
Cityfags are all gonna die in the great antibiotic-resistant HerpeGonoSyphilAids plague.

[Anonymous No.11367862]

>>11360411
Image shamelessly stolen from the beer discord

[Anonymous No.11367871]

>>11367847
haha joke's on you no one will ever have sex with me and I'm afraid to leave the house

[Anonymous No.11367954]

Got myself another one of these, used to only get bordeaux when I was still unfamiliar with wine but I find this one is so much nicer.

[Anonymous No.11368176]

>>11365008
Fucking bullshit.

There are so many absolutely delicious wines that can be found for dirt cheap prices, but sometimes if you want something special you gotta shell out a little.

Don't know how this will go down on /ck/ but have you ever tried Eiswien? Fucking delicious.

I'm talking sweet Riesling that is what it is because the grapes are left on the vine until winter comes then the frozen grapes are harvested and immediatly pressed leaving behind almost all the water weight. The juice from these ice (eis) grapes is stupid sweet and acidic and done right (it doesn't get done wrong, way too expensive for a producer to not take care of this) yields the most delicious sweet white wine.

This process has to be hand done. In Sub zero temperatures. By expert farmers. Obviously the price is gonna be more than 10€.

Same goes for noble rot styles.

Wine is white and red and sparkling and sherry and port and orange and rose and, and, and.

Decent bottle of standard plonk, sure. You don't have to spend big to get value. But please drink some special ones sometimes. They're fucking delicious.

[Anonymous No.11368269]

take it to /r9k/ you degenerates

sage

[Anonymous No.11368633]

>>11365008
obviously not a very good wine farmer if all he’s getting is 5€ a bottle

[Anonymous No.11368657]

>>11360530
Hate to say it but literally toxic masculinity brought about by Midwestern boomers for fuckall reasoning. Anything with even a hint of culture or quality will send any Hank or Bill reeling with disgust and picketing the gays.

[Anonymous No.11368666]

>>11368657
Toxic snobbery is more like it. When the people that drink wine constantly tell you you're trash, you tend to view wine as trash also and want no part in it.

[Anonymous No.11368676]

>>11368657
inb4 WIDF says you hate america and are obviously trolling and/or insane

[Anonymous No.11368681]

>>11368657
>toxic masculinity
It could also be that wine is more expensive than beer or liquor because it used to be mostly imported, so while your average joe is drink a budweiser, his boss was probably having a glass of wine. Its looked at as higher class by a lot of people, like most things from europe, and women always strive to be perceived as some type of sophisticated where a lot of men dont give a fuck and drink what they know

[Anonymous No.11368691]

>>11368666
it’s not snobby to say garbage people are human garbage

maybe you should threaten to shoot me with your gun

[Anonymous No.11368707]

>>11368681
>men don’t give a fuck
That’s a funny way to say “blue collar men are so insecure that they will refuse to try anything they fear might cost them status in the eyes of their fellow manual labor ogres”

[Anonymous No.11368713]

>>11368681
Cheap wine is cheaper than cheap beer though.

[Anonymous No.11368726]

European men are more feminine?

[Anonymous No.11368731]

>>11368713
Cheap beer tastes better than cheap wine
>>11368707
Some are like that, but they were also brought up by someone like that and probably had very little access to trying new things. Especially unskilled laborers who dont make very much money.
Now people with a trade usually make enough to branch out and try new stuff and that's what I've definitely noticed in my years of welding. Craft beer, mid to upper shelf liquor, and middle of the road wines (15 to 25$)

[Anonymous No.11368833]

>>11368707
This

[Anonymous No.11369159]

>>11364985
>insulting South African Chenin Blanc
t. butthurt frenchie

[Anonymous No.11369175]

>>11365677
Uruguayan wines are great if you like high tannin and complexity. They're mostly Tannat and can be pretty hard to find.
Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon is decent, it's not a fruit bomb like most California cabs. Carmenere is a better Chilean grape for the price. Look for higher elevation vineyard sites, particularly for Cabernet. They also do good Rhone varietals on occasion.
Mass-market Argentine wines are overrated and usually over-fruity, except from certain regions (usually high-altitude as well). Uco Valley and Lujan de Coyo are great as long as you don't mind paying $30+ for a Malbec.

[Anonymous No.11369190]

>>11365817
entry-level Mosel rieslings are your friend.
"Noble House" by Dr. Pauly-Bergweiler should be around $15.

[Anonymous No.11369207]

>>11367816
>Fleurie
MY NIGGA
So tired of people shitting on Beaujolais because the oxidated Beaujolais-Nouveau they bought at Whole Foods sucked.

[Anonymous No.11369305]

[Anonymous No.11369397]

>>11368633
Most of my father's wines go for about 10-20€ but honestly it's a fucking scam and marketing & advertising basically define what you can charge.
It's the same shit they sell in 4€ bottles at Aldi.

[Anonymous No.11369417]

>>11360148
>Americans sleeping
>at 2pm
You got my (You)

[Anonymous No.11369907]

>>11369159
I’m a Burgerfat though, and I’m fine with retards staying away from the good stuff. I’d be butthurt if the prices went up on French chenin blanc

[Anonymous No.11369912]

>>11369417
>posted 2 days ago
way to make us look stupid

[Anonymous No.11370277]

>>11369397
>my father sells Aldi wine
>therefore all wine is Aldi wine

I see. Get back to me when he's making a good knockoff of nyulaszo 6 puttonyos for $4 and I'll stock right up

inb4 I bet it tastes the same, I bet, I bet blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.11370936]

>>11369207
Sounds like you live in California. People have gotten wise to bojo cru for some years now on the east coast

[Anonymous No.11371334]

Has anyone made wine out of those Cotton Candy grapes yet?

[Anonymous No.11372588]

>>11371334
those are nasty, why would you want to drink that?

[Anonymous No.11372732]

>>11370936
I live on the east coast and only other people in the industry are hip to Beaujolais crus in my city.
What's a good bottle of Fleurie go for where you live? It's about $22 here

[Anonymous No.11372737]

>>11369907
I love Vouvray but I would never discount a good South African chenin, Cedarberg and Blacksmith are two of my faves.
You're right about pricing though, right now I can get good Vouvray for $10.

[Anonymous No.11372738]

>>11360148
>wine

I'm sorry, I actually have a y chromosome

[Anonymous No.11372769]

>>11372738
>le wine is for girls meme
t. $15 a bottle Maple Bacon Double Chocolate Beard Flannel Stout drinker

[Anonymous No.11372779]

>>11372732
Mid $20s and up. Brouilly is cheaper, in general.

[Anonymous No.11372783]

>>11372769
>he doesn't drink wine so he must be a craft beer fan

pathetic

Men should stick to hard spirits, bitter cocktails like dry martinis and Manhattans and simple, purely brewed beers.

Coffee should be taken black and strong.

[Anonymous No.11372786]

>>11372783
>I studied the blade

[Anonymous No.11372795]

>>11372783
pathetic
Man should Drink whatever they want.

[Anonymous No.11372865]

>>11364273
Quit downplaying your mistakes schlomo. Your stupid Zionist plan is blowing up in everyone's face

[Anonymous No.11372874]

>>11360148
>Now that the Americans have gone to bed

[Anonymous No.11372880]

>>11367954
How to acquire this in burgerland?

[Anonymous No.11373101]

>>11360148

reccomend this if you can get it, literally smells and tastes of christmas cake, I got through a whole bottle during a single course its so easy

[Anonymous No.11373104]

>>11372737
Good vouvray chenin for 10-12? Am burger

[Anonymous No.11373115]

>>11372783
> Trying to meme men into drinking tinis and Manhattans.
Anything can be made to sound gay if you try hard enough, but those two scream gay where I'm from. I suppose i grew up watching how much James Bond but I always thought just a plane spirit maybe with one mixer was the best way to go. I also can't imagine James Bond having a problem drinking a really good red wine with a meal, and obviously he always goes with champagne no problem.

[Anonymous No.11373474]

Budweiser

[Anonymous No.11373521]

>>11360148

I like drinking red wine, and my wife's son always comments on how it makes my mouth red. I took him to baltimore to see his father's mother the other day and my wifes son said "daddy be always drinking something that makes his mouth red." She quickly snapped "yo daddy is in jail, he just be taking care of yo little ass until yo favva is out on parole do you know what im saying?" He did indeed know what she was saying and then we enjoyed some fried chicken.

[Anonymous No.11373531]

>>11372783
>coffee should be taken
How bout enjoyed?

[Anonymous No.11373879]

>>11372783

you're pathetic man, even baiting

[Anonymous No.11374263]

Canadian here. I've found that any $15 red Spanish wine is always a good bet. I find the majority of wines over $20 have diminishing returns.

[Anonymous No.11374787]

>>11373101
>chateau st michele
whoa there buddy, cool it with the obscure underground cult wines

[Anonymous No.11374807]

>>11360148
In Porto rn, picked myself up some of this

[Anonymous No.11375187]

>>11372783
hello flyover

[Anonymous No.11375198]

>>11360148
wine is for women
Imagine being a male and saying wow I'm exhausted gonna go crack open a big cold wine and chillax seesounds really stupid and gay

[Anonymous No.11375310]

>>11375198
cold beer is weak tasting
made for the weak man

[Anonymous No.11375324]

>>11375310
Nah it's made for people with refrigerators

[Anonymous No.11375342]

>>11375324
whatever you say, pussyboy

[Anonymous No.11375427]

>>11375198
>being a male
Nobody talks like this
You don't have any friends and you have to guess how people think based on /r9k/ and anime

[Anonymous No.11377003]

>>11372880
Leave California

[Anonymous No.11377044]

>>11360148
a nice rosé

[Anonymous No.11377048]

>>11377044
I've had one nice rose from california. one. I think it was $25. I'd drink it if it was there, but as usual for california wine, everything good is unnecessarily expensive, and everything cheap is awful.

[Anonymous No.11377080]

>>11360148
$7 from dans. Tastes quite nice

[Anonymous No.11377092]

>>11377080
Well i just finished this now im onto this now

[Anonymous No.11377103]

>>11377048
>>11377044

A damn-decent rose comes out of South Africa from Mulderbosch. 100% cab sauce, tastes like peach, roses, and clean candle wax. ~$15/bottle.

[Anonymous No.11377107]

>>11377092
I used to drink that stuff regularly when I was in my 20s and broke. Video games, Jacob's Creek, and pizza. NEET heaven.

[Anonymous No.11377111]

>>11377107
are you a trap
And yeah its shit. I just walked into BWS looking for strawberry Baileys and she said its only at dans so i wanted to not look autistic and just walk out so i bought the cheapest wine

[Anonymous No.11377119]

Ordered a bottle of pic related with dinner the other night: it smelled like a cave and tasted like strawberries, dried cranberries (unsweetened), brown sugar, and limestone.
Would have liked soy sauce or something savory in there between the berries and brown sugar, but for $50/bottle? Great buy.

Tl;dr - am a huge Orin Swift whore. Drink more Machete.

[Anonymous No.11377123]

>>11377111
No, although at the time I probably could have made a good one. Then I got into weight lifting and ruined my trap potential

[Anonymous No.11377136]

>>11377119
I've only had their Palermo cab sauv, it was really good. Very traditional new world cab sauv, full-bodied and fruit driven with a good amount of oak. The tannins were very well integrated, being noticable but not overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.11377152]

>>11377136
I haven't had Palermo yet, but now definitely want to. Papillon is good, too, if you're into cab sauv and tanins.... It's a Beaurdeaux and it's darkdarkdark.

[Anonymous No.11377160]

>>11377123
Alright, just wondering, i used to bully a broke trap who used to drink jacobs creek quite a lot. Pretty sure he got into HRT and killed hismelf or something.

You can still be cuteboy anyway

[Anonymous No.11377167]

>>11377136
And okay - not a /total/ whore - I think Abstract is super mediocre; not worth the price of a bottle.
But props to Dave Phinny... He and one other person are the only good encounters I've had with blends.

[Anonymous No.11377173]

>>11377167
>He and one other person are the only good encounters I've had with blends.
t. Californian who buys "cabernet sauvignon" that's actually 25% merlot without realizing it

[Anonymous No.11377187]

>>11377173
>Hurr cab blended with Merlot is bad
Single varietal cabs suck 9.9 times out of 10. They're too tannic and have very one-dimensional flavors.

[Anonymous No.11377196]

>>11377187
I like how you're getting mad at me for making you look dumb. Typical Orin Swift fan. They should make one called "Dunning Kruger".

[Anonymous No.11377206]

>>11377187
>>11377196

Gentlemen, gentlemen, please.... Don't let this based bred go to shit. Dave P. is good at what he does is all I'm saying.

As far as one-dimensional can sauvs go.... From Northern CA I do find them to be _generally_ mediocre. BUT: find one from the Red Mountain area of WA and you'll be pleasantly surprised by red berries and sage brush with a mineralistic component rounding off the balanced tanins.

[Anonymous No.11377215]

>>11377206
The French have been blending wine since forever, somehow though a guy with the top 4 buttons of his Robert Graham shirt unbuttoned is a radical visionary for doing it. Because California logic.

[Anonymous No.11377358]

Had this awesome grower Champagne tonight! The acidity was really racy with tons of under-ripe apple and pear and some really nice refreshing snow pea aromas. Fun wine.

[Anonymous No.11377413]

>>11377358
I love champagne but everyone I drink with hates it and I don’t like drinking a whole bottle alone

[Anonymous No.11378446]

>>11377215
Not either of those quoted but,
there's a lot of misinformation about wines, it's understandable that a wine labeled as a particular varietal is thought of as just that. Each country has its own set of rules and regulations regarding naming and labeling; you can't expect everyone to know them. Wine is seen as elitist enough without all this condescention, surely it's better to try and educate people instead of driving them away from a subject they might be interested in?

[Anonymous No.11378515]

>>11377206
I was invited to a special tasting event hosted by moet and chandon a while back, and as a surprise they brought one of the vintners from Newton winery in Cali to speak. He had us try 3 single vineyard cabs from Napa; Spring Mountain, Yountville, and Mt Veeder. One was 100% cab, the others were 98-99%. And my God were they big wines. Tons of body, still quite young and deep deep ruby bordering purple and black. But the flavor was very developed, they were spectacular. Sadly theycost upwards of $200/bottle, and I'm nowhere near rich enough to afford that. But they certainly made a lasting impression on me.

[Anonymous No.11379598]

>>11378446
> surely it's better to try and educate people instead of driving them away from a subject they might be interested in?
Talk shit get hit. It's not like I run around disparaging people who don't know much about wine and are interested in learning, but there's a "mount stupid" that tons of wine drinkers go through, where they spout off about shit they don't know about, just because they know a few phrases. Those people are fair game.

[Anonymous No.11379658]

>>11360148
I really like 14 hands Cabernet Sauvignon

[Anonymous No.11379794]

>>11379598
Dunning-Kruger is inevitable when it comes to literally anything, wine's no different. I've had conversations with people who thought Bordeaux and Burgundy were types of grapes. As time goes on, they'll fall off mount stupid into the valley of despair as they'll be embarrassed by their over-exaggeration of their knowledge and humbled by how much they've yet to learn.

[Anonymous No.11379813]

>>11379794
Yeah, and in any of those subjects, if someone is being wrong, and nice about it, they're fine. I won't single them out, unless there's some immediate consequence for them being wrong, in which case I'll set the record straight as nicely as I can.

On the other hand if they're being wrong, and a jerk about it, I'll rip them a new asshole. I see this in tech all the time, and I don't see any reason to tiptoe around assholes just because it's "elitist".

[Anonymous No.11379970]

>>11360530
First of all, the founding stock of the United States primarily comes from beer cultures - Anglos, Germans, Irish-Iberians, etc.

Based on my own anecdotal experience, women often complain about beer because it "Makes Them Feel Bloated". In a society that is primarily a beer culture, but women don't like beer, it's often women alone buying an alternative. What is usually that alternative? Wine. Hence wine becoming associated with women. It's certainly considered masculine in places like France and Italy, particularly in France with archetypal imagery of bearded WWI soldiers getting their daily wine ration

[Anonymous No.11380035]

>>11360148
dude wine is for FAGGOTS
hahahahahaha lmao

[Anonymous No.11380207]

>>11379970
Intelligent post except for
>Irish-Iberians
Don't do that

[Anonymous No.11380225]

>>11367862
>foreskin wine
certified Jew free!

[Anonymous No.11380264]

>>11380207
Sure thing Mick, to be sure we shant be a doin' that again.

[Anonymous No.11380267]

>>11372786
late to the party, but you made me spit my wine

well done!

[Anonymous No.11380283]

>>11373101
>tastes of Christmas cake
oh God...

[Anonymous No.11380341]

>>11377413
Do they hate all wine or just Champagne?

Champagne seems like a pretty arbitrary thing to hate by itself.

[Anonymous No.11380560]

>>11377044
>South coast winery

ever stayed at their resort? good times!

[Anonymous No.11380661]

>>11380341
I hear that a lot from people too, they probably got a bad headache from drinking too much Andre or J. Roget at a New Year's party one year. A well-made Champagne is unbelievable, my favorite big name non-vintage is Tattinger; their blend is more chard and less Pinot noir so it's a bit softer and more delicate. But it's aged in the bottle for longer than required so it has more bready biscuity autolysis flavors that just really rounds it all out.

[Anonymous No.11380988]

Australian here, Buckfast is the best wine.

[Anonymous No.11381051]

>>11368691
t. NPC

[Anonymous No.11381058]

>>11368707
>“blue collar men are so insecure that they will refuse to try anything they fear might cost them status in the eyes of their fellow manual labor ogres”

That's literally the description of wine faggots and their autism over non-artisanal wine.

[Anonymous No.11381475]

>>11381058
Pretty sure winefags try shit wine for a laugh occasionally. I know I do.

[Anonymous No.11382054]

Who else is in love with Amarone wines? Easily worth twice the cost when you find one you really like. Still not near the pretentious pricing of other aged wines.t

>Grapes are harvested ripe in the first two weeks of October, by carefully choosing bunches having fruits not too close to each other, to let the air flow. Grapes are allowed to dry, traditionally on straw mats. This process is called appassimento or rasinate (to dry and shrivel) in Italian. This concentrates the remaining sugars and flavours and is similar to the production of French Vin de Paille. The pomace left over from pressing off the Amarone is used in the production of Ripasso Valpolicellas.

[Anonymous No.11382065]

Don't ever try "less alcohol" or "reduced tannins" wines. Truly the worst shit I've ever tasted in regards to wine.

On another note, beaujolais nouveau starts selling soon! Remember to drink it asap. I got pre-order date booked because that shit can go so fast it's not even funny.

[Anonymous No.11382091]

>>11382065
Last year's Duboeuf sucked. They've actually got a Nouveau Rose coming out alongside the standard red this year, might give it a try.

[Anonymous No.11382154]

>>11380341
Champagne. It's not arbitrary, a dry, yeasty, bready champagne is not really something for someone who doesn't like wine a lot. It's unexpected, people who have been drinking Asti Spumante as kids taste their first sip of the real stuff, and it's weird.

[Anonymous No.11382164]

What decanters are you using? Pic related because I can't justify buying the deluxe premium ones for hundreds of dollars.

[Anonymous No.11382183]

>>11382164
I have a few, I have no idea what I paid for them or what brand they are. They don't get used because I'm not drinking vintage ports or whatever.

[Anonymous No.11382203]

>>11382183
It's useful for more regular wine because I never have the forethought to open the bottle some time beforehand and sometimes I keep it refrigerated so having another room temp container warms it up quicker as well. I realize it's not exactly necessary unless corking up vintage ports like you mentioned but it has some use for casual stuff.

[Anonymous No.11382213]

>>11382154
I suppose, but grower champagne is usually later harvest and has more fruit quality. That being said you have to spend a bit more for it.

[Anonymous No.11382882]

>>11382203
Many Cru Classe Bordeaux and other old world wineries still leave their wines unfiltered, but you can't deny that a filled decanter looks snazzy. I think unfiltered wines are also trending a bit in California.

[Anonymous No.11384701]

>>11360148

[Anonymous No.11385251]

>>11382882
What are you even talking about? The vast majority of old world wines produced traditionally are filtered, especially classified growths.

[Anonymous No.11385261]

>>11360148
Sauvignon because i'm poor

[Anonymous No.11385263]

>>11385251
>many wines are not X
>the majority of wines are X
I'm not the guy you're inexplicably angry at, but these two statements do not contradict one another. Lrn2 English.

[Anonymous No.11385265]

>>11382164
you should be able to get a cheap but respectable one from a hospitality wholesale store

[Anonymous No.11385268]

>>11385263
But I would venture to say that none of the classified growths are unfiltered at all. Also I'd say the 'vast majority' rules out 'many', but regardless of definition he's still dead wrong.

I'm aware of the trend of minimal intervention wine and I love it, but only a very small amount of producers aren't filtering their wine.

[Anonymous No.11385293]

>>11377358
>muh fun wine
>muh sexy wine
I'm sorry, do you see "fun" or "racy" anywhere on here?

[Anonymous No.11385299]

>>11377187
thats because they're meant to be cellared

[Anonymous No.11385305]

>>11385293
Sorry that your autism prohibits you from talking about anything in an emotional fashion.

[Anonymous No.11385609]

>>11360148
>give American wine to a europoor
>Tell him you got it from Eruopoor country #92
>They like it and start talking about notes and tannins
>Whip out the bottle of Welches Grape Juice

Europoors are dumb

[Anonymous No.11385760]

>>11385268
My bad I'm retarded. I think I misread or misunderstood the article in wine spectator where I got the information from

[Anonymous No.11385780]

>>11385760
No worries anon, no harm done.

[Anonymous No.11386147]

I have been put in charge of wine pairings for the domestic sales meeting this coming week at my company (we're a food manufacturer). All the sales guys will just be getting sloshed and not caring, but I would like to amusey new manager because he's a good guy. What do I buy?

Menu: ambiguous "crepes". Will update when I get more info.

[Anonymous No.11386165]

>>11386147
Really depends if they're sweet or savoury.

[Anonymous No.11386865]

>>11385609
It sees a popular thread and wants to fit in but doesn't know how, adorable

[Anonymous No.11387508]

>>11382054
shameless fan here desu

[Anonymous No.11387868]

>>11360148
>twist-off cap
>shit talking Americans


At least we can afford cork, Pierre.

[Anonymous No.11389010]

>>11386165
Both will be available.

I'm trying to find a wide array of the best wines I can buy for around $30/bottle. Will be going to Total Wine.

[Anonymous No.11389564]

>>11387868
>pierre
>chile

[Anonymous No.11390474]

>>11389010
In terms of savory, maybe go for a light, fruity red like a Gamay or new world Pinot Noir. In terms of whites, maybe something with some nice acidity, like Chenin Blanc or something a bit softer like Pinot Grigio.

In terms of sweet, maybe some traditional method sparkling wine like Cava, or some Moscato d'Asti. I'd avoid most sweet wines, people usually aren't that into them.

Keep in mind I don't know a lot about pairing, so if someone tells you otherwise, maybe I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.11392073]

>>11390474
Thanks for the based answer. I want a familiar white and red (Pinots will work nicely for both, though I might pick up a chard, too, because butter), as well as options with a little intrigue.

Gamay is a GREAT suggestion.

Definitely gonna grab a Cava. Maybe a cab sauv rose like Mulderbosch. If If can find some amaro, those are happening, too. Fuck dessert... Drink digestifs.

[Anonymous No.11392099]

Opened pic related last night.
Will be going back to get at least two more bottles. At this price point it would be insane not to. They'll only store another year or two but I look forward to trying it again next year.