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[Anonymous No.11315311]

/Whisky/
What are you drinking, boys? Im enjoying a neat glass of Talisker 10, suitable for cold autumn nights

[Anonymous No.11315746]

tried forty creek, not impressive but for less than 20$ It's ok.

just got a 50$ visa gift card and I'll go get myself some top shelf whisky. throw some suggestions my way for anything in the 50-80 range.

I love all types of whisky

[Anonymous No.11315785]

>>11315746
>top shelf whisky for 50USD
well dreaming is free
>I love all types of whisky
are you sure?
two different whiskys can be wildly different
but if anything really goes, for that money I recommend oban 14

[Anonymous No.11316083]

>>11315311
Tamnavulin Tempranillo Cask aged.

Picked it up in duty free. Its good enough for the price, but not excellent.

[Anonymous No.11316265]

Drinking some Taketsuru Pure Malt and it's delicious.
I wish the LCBO had more than 6 Jap whiskies,

[Anonymous No.11316286]

>>11316265
>Jap whiskies
why are weebs so cringe

[Anonymous No.11316312]

>>11315311
Glass of cheap but good Cabernet Sauvignon

[Anonymous No.11316346]

>>11316286
?

[Anonymous No.11316409]

>>11315746
I had some forty Creek and it was so nasty, granted I did mix it in Sprite tropical mix.

[Not a vegan but they're ok by (...) No.11316441]

>>11316265
Last time I was in an LCBO they didn't have that many. Besides it's just whisky, 6 from one region is more than enough.

[Anonymous No.11316812]

>>11315746
four roses single barrel

[Anonymous No.11316816]

A cheap but not good shiraz

[Anonymous No.11316883]

What is the cheapest, super peated whiskey? I like peaty Scotch and sodas, but I can't justify making them with single malts. I tried smokey black grouse, but I can't even taste any peat in it.

[Anonymous No.11316896]

Nikka coffee malt

Bretty good while playing my autistic wargames

[Anonymous No.11316998]

>>11316812
you know what? I've been hearing about that and I'm dying to try. I'll go with that

and while I'm at it I'll try out fire and cane scotch

[Anonymous No.11317021]

>>11316883
Finlaggan single malt.

it's crappy, but cheap and peaty too

[Anonymous No.11317251]

Scotch, to pipe down after daily slog
might even show you chaps a tour down the old cellar

[Anonymous No.11317350]

Just had 4 old fashions of pic related in a row.

[Anonymous No.11317365]

>>11315785
Outside of a specialty bar most top shelf whisky is pretty cheap, by the bottle.
The 21 year old Glenlivet is the most expense bottle I've seen in a general establishment.

[Anonymous No.11317434]

I Don't Know, Whiskey Is A Bit Strong For Me LOL. I Usually Prefer Wine HAHA!

[Anonymous No.11317483]

>>11315311
As far as whisky goes, I've got a bottle of Glenmorangie Signet open that I'm really enjoying, and a bottle of William Larue Weller 2010 I've been saving for an occasion. But I've been drinking more brandy than whisky lately.

[Anonymous No.11317783]

>>11315311
Rate today's buy

Drank the first three glasses with only a few drops of water. Still hard to develop a palette for this stuff. Everyone talks about all the different flavors and I'm like "hmm, vanilla"

On the fourth glass now and decided to add two small pieces of ice instead. Immediately much more refreshing obviously, but I also taste more flavors. I get the raisin taste with ice.

I think it'll take some time to really be able to appreciate room temperature scotch neat or with water.

Next month, I'm getting Ardbeg, Laphroaig or Talisker. Not sure which one.

[Anonymous No.11317897]

>>11315311
Talisker is easily my favourite whiskey. I picked a bottle up a few years ago for $60AUD, and i just checked some prices out today and its fucking $93 a bottle. Australia can go fuck itself.

[Anonymous No.11317919]

>>11317897
every time an australia poster posts about basically anything, i feel like it fucking sucks dick to live in australia

[Anonymous No.11318188]

>>11315746
Talisker 10 in the 50 range, 80 range I would buy Ardbeg Corryvreckan

[Anonymous No.11318191]

>>11316883
Islay mist is dirt cheap and 12 yo peated, not much tho

[Anonymous No.11318307]

>>11317783
>from macalan 12 to Motherfucking ardbeg
You will probably be disgusted. But if you force through and develope a pallet, you will understand that macalan Is a gayass boring syrup in comparisson

[Anonymous No.11318467]

>>11318307
I enjoyed very smoky taliskers and highland parks on the first try, even though I was very novice at the time.
Some people love really strong flavours on the first try, for others it might take time

[Anonymous No.11318515]

>>11318467
Talisker and hp are surely smoky, but ardbeg goes all out. But yeah, my first smoky whiskey was a dram of lagavulin 16 and then my whole bottle of ardbeg 10. Safe to say I didnt went to islay through something mild

[Anonymous No.11318681]

What is the most dark chocolatey tasting whisky for a sub $200 budget? What gives a whisky that dark chocolate/coffee/cherry/dark fruit sort of deal?

Would it be a Scotch or a Bourbon or something else entirely? My only experience is with some local ones; the first hit the mark but was way too pricey and the other tasted more like m&ms. They were both unpeated, but I don't know if that's important

[Anonymous No.11318686]

Proper 12

[Anonymous No.11318744]

>>11315311
At the moment I drink the 3rd from the left. Really nice for the price.

[Anonymous No.11318933]

>>11317365
surely not as cheap as 50USD
for that money you could get a bottle of talisker 10, oban 14, glenlivet nas, Nikka from the barrel, and similar stuff
top shelf whisky makes me think of talisker 30, laprohaig 32, Macallan 21, jw blue...
even what I think of as mid to high shelf whisky, like lagavulin 16, jw green, oban 18, talisker 18, yamazaki 12 and so on and so forth is a fair bit more expensive than 50USD

[Anonymous No.11318988]

>>11315311
Usually Glenfiddich

[Anonymous No.11318991]

>>11317783
not like there's anything wrong with enjoying whiskey rocks more than neat
it also depends on the whisky, as a rule of thumb I dilute whisky more alcoholic than 46%ABV, I have a friend who regularly buys €40 and up bottles of whisky and I've never seen him drink it without ice
you also might try a glass of (chilled) water next to the undiluted whisky, alternating the two
>>11318681
not having ever tried it I'll recommend the Nikka coffee grain whisky
even the cheaper Nikka from the barrel (not very good if you drink it neat but the best whisky you can use for an old fashioned imo) tasted kind of like your checklist
definitely dark chocolate, definitely dried plum, honey, vanilla, maybe a bit of cherry
so I can only imagine their coffee grain whisky being similar enough and more like coffee, with everything else associated more with grain whisky
in any case I'd go Japanese for something with chocolate and dried fruit
also, knowing which whiskies you've tried and liked or disliked would be helpful to advise you

[Anonymous No.11318995]

>>11317251
>Loch Lomond

[Anonymous No.11319011]

>>11318991
Nikka Coffey is excellent for what it is, i'd say its lacking a bit on the after taste for me and it has a tiny bit of burn in the end but it's a good option if you want to go for Jap Whisky
>>11318995
it was 63 bucks in duty free at Frankfurt and one of the cheapest aged so i came in kinda blind, i find it superior to my regular sip which is Lagavulin

[Anonymous No.11319018]

>>11319011
I have to try it some time, I've been reading Tintin since I was a child but I only found out a couple of years ago Loch Lomond actually exists irl

[Anonymous No.11319190]

>>11318991
Unfortunately I remember neither of the local's names. Suffice it to say it was a dark chocolate bomb.

>Nikka from the barrel
I've actually had that funnily enough. I thought it was decent, even neat, but it was nowhere near either of the other two in chocolatey-ness or dark fruit

[Anonymous No.11319390]

Glendronach 12 at the moment. It doesn't get enough credit for what it is.
>no chill filtration
>no e150
>sherry bomb from the get go, evaporates and opens up as an autumn/winter liquid pudding and fruity leaves
>43% abv

It is so thick and meaty with heavy sherry fruitty celebration tier flavour. I mean, every now and then something like "christmas in a glass" get's thrown around, but this is clearly it

[Anonymous No.11319439]

>>11319390
Adding a dogbro to it for max comfy

[Anonymous No.11319737]

>>11316265
The only Jap whisky available in Western markets thats worth the money is Nikka From The Barrel and its likely that we'll get it eventually as Pure Malt still sells. The last Jap whisky that came out, Golden Horse, is nowhere worth the money and there's a new one coming in 2 weeks that isn't worth it either although that one is at least 100% Jap whisky while Golden Horse is mostly grain mixed with Scottish malt..
If you want good LCBO whisky coming out soon get the Deanston 2008 Bordeaux Cask, Lot 40 Cask Strength and maybe the Glendronach Cask Strength. In terms of stuff thats currently available if you want sherry look for Glen Garioch 1999 or Tamdhu Batch Strength, both are massive sherrybombs and are good value.

[Anonymous No.11319755]

>>11318744
I don't know what it is about Irish single malt but most that I've tried have just not been good. I wholeheartedly believe that all the good stuff stays in Ireland because any Irish we get in North America usually sucks. I've only had maybe 3 good Irish whiskies, an old Cooley from a German bottler, Teeling Brabazon sherry cask and Writers Tears Cask Strength and even then I wouldn't pay money for any of them except the Teeling because they're just not THAT good to be worth more than $100.

[Anonymous No.11319782]

Enjoying some of that good old Monkey Shoulder

[Anonymous No.11319808]

Pint a day keeps the demons at bay.

Smooth as silk.

[Anonymous No.11319876]

>>11319737
I respectfully disagree, I can get a bottle of Yamazaki 12 from almost any liquor store (in Northern Italy) and as far as whisky goes I think that's very much worth it, while I haven't found the Nikka from the barrel to be good for the money - I can get a bottle of talisker 10 for the same price and I'd much rather have that
but then again, if you like old fashioned you should try one made with that Nikka, grapefruit peel instead of orange, and accompanied with dried pineapple (or possibly dried plums)
stuff's heavenly, really

[Anonymous No.11319893]

I want i get me a bottle of Oban 18 but I'm currently to poor to throw that kind of money at bottles
why does life have to be so hard
I'm currently drinking Talisker 10 almost exclusively and I do like it, but I find it would be a fair bit better if it wasn't as salty, I can't imagine what the storm must be like

[Anonymous No.11319917]

What's the verdict on bourbon + rocks? I know whisky should be neat or with water, but I see the use of bourbon and ice more frequently than other types of whiskies.

[Anonymous No.11319996]

>>11319917
Kentucky bartender here.
Most people take bourbon on the rocks.
It's also common to mix it with ginger ale or Coke. Do whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.11320125]

>>11319876
In Finland Nikka from the barrel is pretty much the only one Japanese whisky you can get
Should I buy it?

[Anonymous No.11320128]

>>11319893
Like my post above, buy monkey shoulder. I do enjoy 'hard' whisky's every now and then but this is a whisky you can drink for ever

[Anonymous No.11320264]

>>11319782
It's so delicious, I accidentally drank more than I shoud've of.

[Anonymous No.11320315]

Man I've had too much

[Anonymous No.11320321]

>>11316812
My African American gentleman

[Anonymous No.11320323]

>>11319893
Storm Is supposed to be a 10 on a bit of steroids, but in all honesty, it Is mostly a marketing trick. Storm Is kind of all over the place.

[Anonymous No.11320347]

>>11319876
>I can get a bottle of Yamazaki 12
How much did you pay though? Cause Yamazaki 12 in most Western markets is super expensive for what you get.
https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/2940/suntory-yamazaki-12-year-old
It’s not bad by any means but Japanese whisky in general is just really overpriced for anything that isn’t NAS because the stocks have become so low with the crazy international demand.
I think in the USA Nikka From The Barrel and Talisker 10 are the same price and I’d rather have the former as it’s more complex in the palate and cask strength even despite being a blend.
>>11319893
Clynelish 14 is a good alternative. If that’s not around try Springbank 10.
Talisker Storm is okay but a bit worse then Talisker 10. The two above whiskies are better then both in my books.
>>11319917
Enjoy your whisky however you want, but some whiskies like Ezra B 12 Year deserve to be enjoyed neat but at the end of the day you pay for it you drink it with ice cubes or in a Manhattan, it’ll still be good.

[Anonymous No.11320366]

[Anonymous No.11320374]

>>11320347
Yea, Nikka from the barrel is ~30-40$ in duty free which is a good price, but +50$ it's a no

[Anonymous No.11320409]

>>11319390
The problem with the 12 is that it isnt the 15, 18 or 21.

[Anonymous No.11320833]

>>11318307
I thought islay scotch sounded disgusting theoretically, tried Laphroaig in a bar and was instantaneously hooked. The complexity is exactly what I'm looking for.

I think I'm going to go Ardberg because Dewar's has actually been my favorite spirit for years.

[Anonymous No.11320885]

>tfw store I found Buffalo Trace for >$20 months back now has it raised to $30.

FUCK

[Anonymous No.11320891]

>>11315311
Bourbon and rye for spring/summer
Irish and Scotch for fall/winter

[Anonymous No.11321217]

>>11320891
heard this was great. I'll have to try it sometime

[Anonymous No.11321250]

Rowans Creek

[Anonymous No.11322182]

Grabbed this from the local boozery last week. I was taken aback by the taste, very smooth, yet very full and rich. I don't drink coffee but I imagine it had that coffeeish, chocolatey feeling to it. Very nice for the price. It's easily one of my favourites now. Nothing beats Laphroaig 10, though.

[Anonymous No.11322485]

>>11319018
>I only found out a couple of years ago Loch Lomond actually exists irl

Same here. I always assumed it was a made-up brand name until I saw a review of it years later.

[Anonymous No.11322522]

>>11318995

holy shit, I never knew... I'll have to grab a bottle someday.

>are you depressed?
>do your days drag on?
>only one remedy:
oh yeah?
>LOCH LOMOND

I wish that sort of advertising still existed

[Anonymous No.11322547]

>>11319755
>Cooley
That might be true. Thats the first Irish I own. It was a present after we did a tasting with juergen deibel. Probably they have some more good ones, but I usually go for scotch. Although I like the Irishman. For 30 euros it is a nice everyday whisky.

[Anonymous No.11322570]

>>11322182
Compass book is tasty, but its fucking $70 a bottle. That's the price point of a bunch of great single malts

[Anonymous No.11322801]

>>11319917
the verdict is, you should do things the way you enjoy them most
if you want my honest opinion bourbon is shit, so there's no reason why you should care about it

[Anonymous No.11322852]

>>11318933
Depends on where you are oban 14 is like 70 bucks here but costco has lagavulin 16 at 55 bucks.
For the most part a regular bar has "top shelf" whisky that's 100 bucks give or take 30 a bottle.

[Anonymous No.11322868]

>>11322852
Let's not get caught up in minutia. Just throw out some higher end suggestions. no wrong answer here.

[Anonymous No.11322875]

>>11322868
If you can find it try hibiki 17 before suntory stops making age statement whisky altogether.

[Anonymous No.11322877]

>>11320125
I don't recommend it, unless you want to use it in cocktails
in that case I wholeheartedly recommend it, but it's a lot of money for a mixing whisky
>>11320128
thanks, I'll try it if I have some money in excess, but what is it like?
for just €2 more I can get Talisker 10, and for €7 more Oban 14
>>11320347
thanks, you mean those two are a good alternative to Talisker 10 or Oban 14?
I don't really know anything about them, but seeing those flavor maps and all they seem fairly different
>>11322570
I really don't get the stigma around blended whisky
it's no worse than single malt if it's made of good quality whiskies, see jw green for example

[Anonymous No.11322895]

>>11322877
>I really don't get the stigma around blended whisky
What is there to get? The whisky hobby attracts garbage people, the kinds of people who autistically pick the tomato slice off their hamburgers because "I don't like the texture ok? leave me alone"

They heard whisky was "fancy" so they memorized about the islay and the peat and the casks and all that shit. It becomes a consumption ritual, they are sophisticated people because they know brands of bottled mass produced liquor and angrily enforce the consumption rituals they read on about.com or some such thing.

One of the ways they remind themselves that they are real patricians now is by having an enemy within their hobby, and one such enemy is blends. Another is people who "waste" the rare, obscure, extremely artistic liquor, by putting it in cocktails. Because there aren't oceans of this stuff washing up in literally every liquor store around the world, nah some old Scottish man personally made that bottle for Neckbeard McGee and will get upset if one drop goes into a Rob Roy.

"Whisky nerds" are worse than craft beer nerds and "knife guys" and video game autists combined.

[Anonymous No.11322897]

>>11322895
Hear hear
My Dalmore 25 was pretty much used as a mix for some Manhattan

[Anonymous No.11323043]

>>11320347
a bottle of Yamazaki 12 can be had for some €120 to €130
>Nikka from the barrel is more complex on the palate
you'll have to elaborate here, as I have found the opposite to be true
that Nikka is kinda more flavourful, there's more stuff you can readily taste, but it gets much duller fast, while talisker has salt and different spices and smoke for days
also a bottle of that Nikka is .5l instead of .7l, so the price per amount of alcohol is about the same

[Anonymous No.11323058]

>>11322895
you're absolutely right, my choice of words was poor
I meant, there's no reason to put down blended whisky "because it's blended", as a good quality blend will use good whiskies and, if nicely done, will not be any worse than a single malt
and if I may, you're probably going to sleep a bit better at night if you take this a bit less seriously
>>11322897
was it because it wasn't very good on its own, or you thought it was good but even better in a manhattan?

[Anonymous No.11323105]

Bought a Loch Lomond 15 which was surprisingly pleasant, also got a bottle of Auchentoshan 12 which was very disappointing.

[Anonymous No.11323114]

Has anybody ever had Angels Envy? Its a $100 bottle where I live and I wanted to treat myself. I believe theyre finished in port barrels and would be something new and interesting.

[Anonymous No.11323132]

>>11323105
Auchentoshan has been slipping for a long while now for some reason

[Anonymous No.11323306]

>>11319018
I haven't had it but from what I've heard it's good for a blended.

[Anonymous No.11323607]

I bought a bottle of Deveron 10 a couple of years ago, it smelled like sour wine and tasted like acetone. I gave it to my old man who's been using it as footwash and paint thinner. I'm suspecting it was a bad batch or something similar to that, but I don't dare to buy another bottle.
Anyone else tried it out? Is it really supposed to be that bad?

[Anonymous No.11323651]

>>11315311
johnny walker red label

[Anonymous No.11323878]

Just finished my first Bottle of Tin Cup last night. Very much enjoyed that, liked the taste a lot and stuck to having it neat. Very interested in getting something similar, around the $50 or less range, any suggestions guys? Not a big fan of Bulliet or Knob Creek, but open to trying anything.

[Anonymous No.11324779]

>>11322877
In my country monkey shoulder and talisker has 10-15€ price gap
Monkey shoulder is very smooth, sweet and fruity. Delicious

[Anonymous No.11324819]

>>11323114

It's not worth $100 - it's MGP whiskey and I think you can get 2 or 3 other bottles of Rye just as good. You mostly pay for the bottle and marketing for something like Angel's Envy imo.

http://www.great-taste.net/tidbits-kudos/industry-news/whisky-brands-that-are-made-at-mgp/

[Anonymous No.11325660]

>>11323114
I had it at a bar and really liked it, but don't pay more than 40 for it.

[Anonymous No.11325901]

I used to like Talisker but they jacked up their prices

[Anonymous No.11325988]

>>11322877
>thanks, you mean those two are a good alternative to Talisker 10 or Oban 14?
Yes they both have similar salty and white pepper notes while keeping temperate fruits as the focal point along with basic vanilla and toffee from the oak. Only difference is that Springbank 10 has a coastal peat that some may like but if your okay with Talisker the Springbank peat should be fine to deal with. Ive reviewed them all extensively and generally found them to be similar in some respects and easy to change within to branch out your preferences.
Also Springbank is one of the best distilleries in Scotland quality wise, their Local Barley cask strengths are fucking cash money.
>>11323043
>a bottle of Yamazaki 12 can be had for some €120 to €130
And would you buy it for that much when you can get far better cask strength scotch? I certainly wouldn't.
Also the USA release of Nikka is 750ml.
https://www.totalwine.com/spirits/scotch//nikka-whiskey-from-the-barrel/p/192764750?s=301
>>11322182
Compass Box make some good blends. Try No Name and Flaming Heart if you get a chance to.
>>11323114
Angels Envy is not worth the money, don't both with it. I've had many port cask bourbon and all of them are generally bad. If you want port try Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban or if you can find it Benriach Solstice.
>>11325901
Thats Diageo for you. Their special releases prices have been total cancer too.

[Anonymous No.11326282]

My mommy just came back from Ireland with a bottle of Pearse original blend for me, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.11326296]

just had a glass of Long Branch

[Anonymous No.11326573]

>>11322877
I really, really, really like this image.

[Anonymous No.11326578]

>you can't buy hibiki 12 in the entire state of North Carolina

[Anonymous No.11326632]

>>11326578
Oh wait, you can buy it in South Carolina, directly across the border, at the Carolinas' highest-selection-of-scotch independent liquor store. Like fifteen minutes from me. 200+ single malts.

I can't remember the last time I felt so excited to go to sleep and get back up in the morning

[Anonymous No.11326642]

makers mark, kind of grocery-store tier but not awful

[Anonymous No.11326643]

>>11326578
Hibiki 12 is extinct, Hibiki 17 is either dead or in the process of dying as stocks dry up.
Stop giving Suntory money to cut corners.

[Anonymous No.11326647]

>>11315311
Proper 12 of course. But I have to tap after the fourth shot.

[Anonymous No.11326659]

>>11326643
Huh. Why is it extinct? What do you mean by cutting corners? A friend loves it so I wanted to try

[Anonymous No.11326666]

>>11316883
Ardbeg 10yr is still around $50 at my store. I miss the days when laphroig was $40ish.

[Anonymous No.11326672]

suck a wang whiskey fags

[Anonymous No.11326673]

>>11326659
They don't make it anymore and haven't for years. They don't make hibiki 17 anymore but they still have some barrels (or not who knows) in Japan. Once existing 17 year old stock dry's up they'll never make hibiki 17 again.
You're stuck with non age statement whisky, which I detest in principal.

[Anonymous No.11326678]

Bushmills. Drank Grouse for a long time but recently switched, although I may go back as it's cheaper.

Got a bottle of small batch Cadenhead which I dip into on special occasions.

[Anonymous No.11326687]

>>11326642
it's great when mixed with ginger beers.

[Anonymous No.11326700]

Try Glenmorangie Lasanta, easy to drink can find around 50USD

[Anonymous No.11326728]

>>11325988
thanks again, but what I meant was, since Talisker and Oban are a fair bit different, would you say that those two whiskys you suggested (which seem to be fairly different from each other as well, and you say they're similar "in some respect"), would you say that they're a good alternative (as in, they're kind of like) to Talisker, or they're a good alternative to Oban?

[Anonymous No.11326744]

>>11325988
>why would you buy nip whisky for that money when you could have something better
because, in my opinion, if you like nip whisky you can't have anything better for that price
>$60 for .75l nikka
>$70 for Talisker 10
what a hard life Americans have
>cask strength this cask strength that
is it a convenience thing because you're getting more alcohol per liter, because it sounds cooler, because you prefer 55%ABV drinks to 40%ABV ones...?

also I still don't get where you're finding the higher complexity on the palate in the Nikka compared to the Talisker

[Anonymous No.11327232]

>>11326744
What's a nip whisky?

[Anonymous No.11327277]

>>11326728
Springbank would be a good alternative to Oban and Clynelish to Talisker although Clynelish is a tad less peaty then Talisker so a similar peated island malt would be Ledaig if you want more smoke.
>>11326744
If you can’t have any better Japanese whisky for over 100 euros then what’s the point? Heck if you really want to invest in good Japanese whisky you’d be better off looking into Chichibu and Karuizawa anyway.
The reason I prefer cask strength is because it’s unfiltered and the qualities of oiliness and other esters coming from the copper still during maturation are generally lost from dilution and chill filtering. This along with the higher proof I think shows the character of the spirit better then something at 43%.
Also for the quality that comes with cask strength it’s a good bang for buck. If you ever get a chance try and compare Laphroaig 10 with Laphroaig 10 Cask Strength and you’ll get an idea of the nuances between the finishing processes.

[Anonymous No.11328104]

Why do you guys think of Knob Creek rye? I like the 100 proof. Is it a meme brand?

[Anonymous No.11328707]

>>11315311
wild turkey 101, best under 30 bourbon

[Anonymous No.11328765]

>>11316265

>More than 6

Don't we only get Toki and Hibiki Harmony?