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11297583 No.11297583 [Reply] [Original]

fit here.

I just got told multivitamins are useless.

What is a good recipe that contains all the nutrition I need in a day?

>> No.11297587

and you believed them?

>> No.11297598

Multivitamins are only useless when you're already eating a sufficient variety. In clinical studies, they make no difference when paired with a normal diet.

However if your diet has weak spots or holes, they work as they are meant to.

It's like taking a protein supplement. If you're already getting all the protein you need, you don't need to take it.

>> No.11297654

>>11297583
When I was big into two a day liften and getting swole I would make an egg dish that was like a frittata with a fuck ton of protein and all the carbs came from mixed vegetables.
>sautee a chopped onion and two cups (20 gs carbs per cup) of frozen mixed vegetables (ez mode for macro counting but I also subbed or added peppers/broccoli/mushrooms regularly
>when they're cooked down a bit add in 1 can drained white tuna
>now add 6 eggs stir
>immediately add about a half cup milk stir
>immediately add 1 handful of flour or bisquick (fluffier) sprinkle in slowly while stirring
>grate aged cheese on top
>put whole skillet in oven preheated to 350°f for about 20 min
Wa la hella veggies vitamins and minerals 40 grams of carbs and gobs of protein all in a delicious pie form.

>> No.11297658

>>11297598
>they work as they are meant to.
citation please

>> No.11297663

>>11297658
Your citation is available on reddit where you belong

>> No.11297664

>>11297658
>take in redundant vitamins when already meeting your DV
>nothing happens

>don't meet your DV
>pop a multivitamin
>wa la

>> No.11297726

>>11297658
>citation please
He doesn't have one because he's wrong. Supplement company spokesmen have made similar responses to the studies showing no benefit to multivitamins e.g.
>"We all need to manage our expectations about why we're taking multivitamins," Duffy MacKay, vice president of scientific and regulatory affairs for the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade group that represents supplement manufacturers, said in a prepared statement.
>"Research shows that the two main reasons people take multivitamins are for overall health and wellness and to fill in nutrient gaps," MacKay said. "Science still demonstrates that multivitamins work for those purposes, and that alone provides reason for people to take a multivitamin."
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/news/20131216/experts-dont-waste-your-money-on-multivitamins#1
But that response is bullshit and not backed by any actual findings. Studies have been done on subjects who either take vitamins or else take placebo pills, and they don't make a difference even when being used to try to fill in nutrition gaps.

>> No.11297746

Liver, meat, veggies, bloody hell dood you do realize that internet exists precisely for such inquiries...

>> No.11297783

>>11297583

they are useless if you already have a well rounded balanced diet, because they don't fill any significant deficiencies.

A great food for vitamins and stuff is the liver.

>> No.11297808

Don't trust academia, they say they are useless today then a couple years in the future turns out they aren't. Just take your vitamins they are dirt cheap.

>> No.11297809

>>11297583
>post dipshit looking frong
>ask dipshit questions

I like the gummi 1 a day vitamins. I don't eat a lot of fruit and veggies and I feel a lot better when I'm on them.

>> No.11297826

if your eating shitty food then yes having a multivitamin helps. think college students who eat lots of junk and cafeteria food.

if you're eating lots of organic food, cooked at home, including variety of meats and veg, then you don't need multivitamin but you might still be deficient in some vitamins as food these days do not have as high amounts of vits as before---this is because of mineral depletion in soil. look up mineral supplements such as "liquid minerals" and make sure they are optimized for max absorption.

many vitamins are best absorbed when taken together, or with food. you basically have to trick your body into thinking it's getting these vits naturally.

example: some MREs include a multi-vitamin because the included food is not enough to meet basic DV vitamin needs.

hope that helps

>> No.11297870

>op asks for healthy recipes that cover vitamin and mineral needs
>exactly one was posted and the rest are spergouts over a tangential issue to the question

Fuck you guys are autistic. Post a recipe or stfu

>> No.11297918

>>11297783
>they are useless if you already have a well rounded balanced diet, because they don't fill any significant deficiencies.
They're useless even if you don't eat a well rounded diet.
Most people don't seem to realize how little is actually required to not have nutritional deficiencies. Vitamin D for example you get just from being exposed to sunlight, and the amount you get from sunlight is way more than the amount your body will take in from a multivitamin. If you happen to drink milk or eat cheese at any point, you're getting calcium. If you use a ketchup packet while eating junk food from McDonalds then you just prevented scurvy with trace amounts of vitamin C, etc.
Basically the amount of thought and effort people put into "nutritional needs" / "healthy diet" are greatly disproportionate to how much those things really matter in practice. Most people would be much better off if they focused on getting their calorie counts under control. Your body's a lot more durable and able to adapt to all sorts of different calorie sources than the health food industry's marketing campaigns would have you believe.
Part of the problem in addition to that is the tendency people have to convince themselves there's always something they can do to control the situations they're in. So even though there's a surprisingly small amount of evidence you can significantly impact your health through "healthy diet" in ways other than simply eating fewer calories, most people still believe they're dramatically hurting or helping their health depending on which kinds of food they decide to eat each day. The idea what health problems you will or won't get are largely out of your hands is too depressing I guess.

>> No.11297927

>>11297583
zyzz was a closet pedo, junkie with a catastrophic hairdo. He trolled "fitizens" as he thought they were beta faggots to the extent that he got b& from /fit/.....and yet /fit/ still worship him

>> No.11297940

>>11297918
Post a recipe or stfu
>>11297927
No one cares about ancient dead memes. Post a recipe or stfu.

>> No.11297943

>>11297918

I spoke about significant deficiencies, like in people with severe food allergies or gut flora/absorption issues, not about hippiefags and their kale obsession.
In that second scenario, what you say is totally correct, but was not the situation I was considering.

>> No.11297955

>>11297658
Don't need one.
>be retard on meat-only diet
>get the scurvy
>pop Vitamin C tablet
>no more scurvy
Could also be the modern day retard who eats nothing but processed foods.

>> No.11297961

>>11297943
>>11297955
Post a recipe or stfu

>> No.11297978

Not sure but can you vote on this important issue please? Thanks https://www.strawpoll.me/16593938/r

>> No.11297990

>>11297961

jeez faggot, chill.

venetian style liver:

500gr lamb liver
50gr oil
black pepper
2 white onions
15gr butter
salt
6 salvia leaves
10gr white vinegar
water

peel the onion, then cut it into slices
was and cut the salvia leaves
in a pan melt the butter with the oil
add the onions to the pan and add some water, then keep cooking with a slow fire for 5 minutes, then add minced salvia and the white vinegar.
keep cooking for 5 more minutes or until the onions have dried, meanwhile rinse the liver with water.
Dry the liver with some cooking paper and then put them into the pan.
Cook for 5 minutes with high heat, turning the liver after 2.5 minutes.

Eat and enjoy.

>> No.11298001

>>11297990
oh crap I mean veal liver, not lamb.

>> No.11298003

>>11297990
Ty. I've been looking for a good liver recipe.

>> No.11298032

>>11297955
>Don't need one.
You don't have one, because you're wrong. The trace vitamin C in a McDonalds ketchup packet is enough to prevent scurvy. Do you have any idea how many autists there are living on junk food? There would be a scurvy epidemic if you really needed healthy dieting or a multivitamin to keep your vitamin C levels high enough. In reality almost nobody is ever even suspected of having scurvy in a developed nation today, and the very rare few times when a doctor claims to have diagnosed a patient with scurvy are always met with many more doctors and researchers calling bullshit.

>> No.11298034

>>11298032
Post recipes or stfu

>> No.11298058

>humans have lived for a long time with out multivitamins
>flash forward to the modern era
>a company makes some product that will "help" you getting something you "need"
>lo and behold it's a scam

It's like breakfast and a breakfast cereal. Only hard labourers ate breakfast for the longest time. And then some insane heath freaks in the US created breakfast cereal and shipped to everyone that you need to eat three meals a day instead of two.

>> No.11298064

How do I know which vitamins I am low on and what I need?

>> No.11298092

>>11298064
If you have to ask you aren't "low" on any of them. Check back in if your gums start bleeding and your legs get swollen and bruised.

>> No.11298099

>>11298064
If you feel sad all the time, you might be low on B. Get a blood test.

>> No.11298108

>>11298058
>>11298064
>>11298092
>>11298099
Post recipes or stfu

>> No.11298113

>>11298108
You first. Like most boards OP, you have to contribute yourself.

>> No.11298120

>>11298108
>recipes
Any food or drink you want equal to the amount of calories you need to maintain a healthy weight. That's the problem with this thread, it's premised on the false assumption you have a bunch of nutritional needs you're not meeting, which is a bullshit myth spread by the companies that try to sell you vitamin supplements or fad diet books and support materials.

>> No.11298126

>>11298113
I'm not OP. I've already posted a recipe. There is nothing wrong with posting a requests thread on /ck/ and being able to expect contribution.

>> No.11298132

>>11298108
One cup of Drano, three cups of water. Mix thoroughly and drink in a single swallow.

>> No.11298137

>>11298126
Sure thing OP.

>> No.11298141

>>11298120

This a fair amount. Just eat more real food instead of sugar breads and you'll be perfectly fine.

>> No.11298155

>>11298120
Post a recipe or stfu.

>> No.11298169

>>11297583
liver, fatty fish, oysters, mussels, and meat in general.
also vitamin K2 MK4 supplement.

>> No.11298344

>>11297961
>take orange
>slice orange
>consume vitamin c flesh
>wala

>> No.11299918

Very few people meet the recommended intake, it's probably going to help you in the long run.

>> No.11300584

>>11297961
>>/r/ newfag

>> No.11300710

>>11297583

Eat a big plate of Faggots, Colcannon, carrots and Brussels sprouts with an onion and garlic bone broth gravy.

Faggots - Pigs heart, lung and liver and pork belly ground up, mixed with onion and herbs, formed into balls and cooked in stock in the oven.

Colcannon - Mashed potatoes with greens(collard/spring/kale) stirred through.

>> No.11300717

>>11300710
Why would you name balls of offal after bundles of sticks?

>> No.11300749

>>11300717

Because it makes Americans uncomfortable.