/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11135392]

Speaking as Italian, I think food quality in Italy is overrated.

> you almost never find true vanilla in ice cream
> meat is always too lean and never deliciously marbled
> milk tastes like nothing
> same for italian butter, which in general is really shitty

Italians in general are obsessed with stupid things: no cheese here, no butter there, don't use cream, you can't do this with pasta. They are all about olive oil and temporary fashions (e. g. we're in the "cacio e pepe" age now).

What do you think about?

[Anonymous No.11135406]

You're not Italian, and the stuff you're complaining about happens in every country. The thing that's different about "Italian" culture is that Italians have narcissistic personality disorder and they think everything is about them. So when someone has an opinion about food it must be THE EYETALIAN WAY to fight over it, even though Texans will squabble over chili con carne and Filipinos will fight over what brand of vinegar to dump into their adobo and Indians will threaten honor killings over whether ghee belongs on chapati.

But nah, Eye-talians are SPECIAL, nobody else cares about food except them. This is what Eye-talians ACTUALLY believe.

[Anonymous No.11135407]

depends heavily on where you are. urban italians are just as shit at cooking as urban anyone. some of the criticisms you've made are more specific to southern italy though.

[Anonymous No.11135422]

>>11135406
OP here. Actually I am Italian lol
I agree with you, btw

[Anonymous No.11135453]

>>11135407
But also here in the north, people are getting more and more obsessed:

> I NEVER USE BUTTER!!11
> pistachio filled margarine supersweet croissant with sprinkles on top
> sourdough everywhere

[Anonymous No.11135484]

>>11135392
>They are all about olive oil

which is especially funny since it was revealed that italian olive oil is mostly fake, heavily adultered shit and blind taste tests by experts revealed that california olive oil is indisputably the world's best in the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.11135684]

wops are the worst, and this is taking into consideration that the frogs exist. Legit their food is average without the input of the rest of the planet.
>oh no nonono, scuzzi, must use this overwhelmingly strong pork product in this recipe, is traditionale!
>but I want to taste the other ingredients
>AAHHHHHH YOU SPIT ON MY MOTHER'S GRAVE!

[Anonymous No.11135695]

>>11135392
I definitely experience the ultra-lean meat and watery tasting milk when I lived in Firenze. But I must say the produce and eggs were divine. I still can't find garlic that is as strong and delicious as Italian grown garlic.

[Anonymous No.11135701]

>>11135392
>putting spaces after your >
fucking /ck/

[Anonymous No.11135702]

>>11135392
Sound like pretty general problems. The biggest problems I've found is that it's too traditional like >>11135684 said. And that whenever I go out with Italians the only places they ever want to eat is at an Italian restaurant, where they spend the next two hours bitching about how shit the food is. I thought it would be different when I visited them in Italy, but they just bitched louder.

[Anonymous No.11135709]

>>11135392
Don't forget their coffee. Horrible, bitter, overroasted Robusta crap that needs mountains of sugar just to drink but Italians are convinced it's the best in the world.

[Anonymous No.11135770]

>>11135392

and the self-hating italian comes....
Diosanto, il coglione.

[Anonymous No.11135798]

>>11135709
because the French do it even worse, consistently best coffee country in the world I've had, surprisingly, Australia.

[Anonymous No.11135905]

>>11135770
OP here. That's not self hatred, I just can't stand my compatriots' attitude to food. Why you don't just enjoy things? Why do you have to avoid butter or cream? And why don't we admit that some things of ours are not so great? È l'unico modo per migliorare...

[Anonymous No.11135914]

>>11135392
I think most Europeans are obsessed with the traditionalism of their food to the point of absurdity. Dont get me wrong an authentic dish of any cuisine cooked right is delicious but gets boring when every restaurant is serving the same thing. I know a French guy here in the US who said he moved here after getting bored cooking the same old same old. He's a great chef and wanted to try fusing or changing up the traditional food he mastered years. Only he said most French people aren't big on trying new things.

It's a different atmosphere in the US. Southern food is one of the older cuisines in the states but we are ok with people putting their own spin on things.

[Anonymous No.11136024]

>>11135392
You can blame the French for the fuckwitted idea that meat should be lean all the time. That shit even spread over to the states for a while. Who's idea was it to make then trend setters? They're so far up their own assholes.

[Anonymous No.11136040]

>>11135914
Southern food
>hey I've been thinking about using another overpowering spice to mask the flavour of the ingredients instead of this other overpowering spice we currently use... and then deep frying it
>.... wow, you just changed the game
*cue Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives banjo music*

[Anonymous No.11136046]

>>11135392
OP if you want great Italian food, come to the US.

[Anonymous No.11136061]

>>11136024
>You can blame the French for the fuckwitted idea that meat should be lean all the time

Fuck no. Ever read a classic French cookbook? Rich fatty meat dishes everywhere. Those mofos even have special tools for adding fat to meat dishes. Ever heard of a "larding needle" before? If you need instructions on how to use it, check out Escoffier, Larousse, Pepin...Julia Child....

[Anonymous No.11136064]

>>11135709
My parents travelled to Sorrento recently and brought back some coffee from a small local roaster down there and it was fucking terrible. Literally just tasted like burnt toast. Fuck you, Italy. You ain't shit.

[Anonymous No.11136078]

>>11135914
Theyve been praised for their bullshit too long. America has the best of everything now, I wouldn't open a joint anywhere else

[Anonymous No.11136111]

Italians HATE diversity. It’s a fact. They are one of the most nationalistic country in most regards, especially with food.

[Anonymous No.11136125]

Get three Italians together to judge each other's cooking and the only thing they'll agree on is that two of them are doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.11136133]

>>11136125
How is that any different from Thais, Mexicans, etc? Hell, put three Americans together and ask them about BBQ and it will be no different.

It's only really the French and the Chinese who have standardized recipes since they were the first to have widely published cookbooks. But even then you find exceptions. Get a few Frenchmen together and ask what goes in a Cassoulet and it might well come to blows.

[Anonymous No.11136283]

What about prosecco? Simply overrated, sometimes it tastes like carbonated box wine

[Anonymous No.11136288]

>cacio e pepe

[Anonymous No.11136456]

>>11136133
>How is that any different from Thais, Mexicans, etc?
This thread isn't about Thais, Mexicans, etc.

[Anonymous No.11136757]

Italian Americans are on par with niggers