Vegan

[Anonymous No.10991285]

Plant based thread, keep it civil like u fags do everytime

[Anonymous No.10991290]

Vegans kill more atmospheres that meat eaters kill animals

[Anonymous No.10991292]

>>10991285

[Anonymous No.10991299]

[Anonymous No.10991302]

>>10991290
like they breath more air?

[Anonymous No.10991308]

>>10991285
for me, it's abusing alcohol to the point where i kill the family dog in front of my kids for the 5th time

[Anonymous No.10991319]

>>10991292
try beyond

[Anonymous No.10991321]

>>10991308
I’m kind of in the same boat. Ever since I went vegan I literally cannot stop beating my wife and kids.

[Anonymous No.10991326]

>>10991299
79995 taste the same
also
>3 animals only

[Anonymous No.10991327]

>>10991299
who limits themselves to three? pork, beef, chicken, turkey, duck, and veal are all available in pretty much every supermarket. than you have specialty butchers and friends or family that hunt, if you don't yourself. that opens up venison, rabbit, wild boar, ostrich, alligator snake, elk, bear and a multitude of others. be adventurous.

[Anonymous No.10991435]

>>10991327
majority of people do chicken, beef, pork

[Anonymous No.10991529]

>>10991319
Memeburger

[Anonymous No.10991535]

>>10991435
This is the vegan way of thought.

[Anonymous No.10991543]

[Anonymous No.10991544]

>>10991435
>majority of people do chicken, beef, pork
you forgot fish and other marine products retard unless those are vegan now.

[Anonymous No.10991546]

>>10991302
Did the person who made this not understand that lobsters don't have larynxes or the ability to breathe air? They are literally incapable of screaming.

[Anonymous No.10991553]

>>10991546
Yeah, but that doesn't mean the process isn't painful as hell. Have you ever had trapped air escape from your system? It hurts. It really, really does.

[Anonymous No.10991554]

>>10991544
I don't think you understand the word majority
t. different.

[Anonymous No.10991556]

>>10991543
wtf i hate hitler now :(

[Anonymous No.10991560]

[Anonymous No.10991566]

>>10991554
I don't think you do either, unless for you majority is average "American in a flyover state" and even they buy those Shrimp crown every once in a while.

[Anonymous No.10991658]

>>10991546
How are they standing up?

[Anonymous No.10993028]

>>10991299
black people are well known for consuming almost exclusively judt poultry

[Anonymous No.10993071]

>>10991319
Yeah except they're expensive as fuck and spoil quickly, wow what a great alternative

[Anonymous No.10993075]

>>10991560

[Anonymous No.10993090]

>>10991285
>vegan thread!!!!11
>bunch of retards jacking each other off
Every time.

[Anonymous No.10993102]

>>10993075

[Anonymous No.10993560]

>>10991285
I'm pregnant and vegan but I am always hungry for more protein. I can't get enough. I'm pretty far along at almost 7 months so it's about time for me to eat more protein for fetal development. Any ideas?

Right now I'm eating:

Two slices of whole wheat bread and 3 tbsp peanut butter for breakfast.
1 c brown rice, 1/2 c lentils, 1/2 block tofu, 3 cups vegetables as fried rice or homemade vegetable soup with lentils for lunch.
Some version of 2 servings carbs, 2-3 servings beans or mock meat, 3-4 servings of vegetables for dinner (like creole-style beans, brown rice, and a huge kale salad with tahini.)
Also supplementing B12, using iodized salt, vegan D3, and vegan DHA, plus a multi-vitamin so no worries about micronutrients.

[Anonymous No.10993662]

>>10993560
>pregnant and vegan
Some states still allow 3rd trimester abortion. Perhaps a plane ticket?

[Anonymous No.10993679]

>>10991546
>>10991658
let alone the fact that lobsters cannot speak. this cartoon is inaccurate and therefore not funny

[Anonymous No.10993699]

>>10993679
What are you a fucking sea scientist? They don't speak human but they might be able to speak a talk you wouldn't understand. Stupid fucking summerfags got back to redit

[Anonymous No.10993754]

>>10993662
Dang that's a good one.

[Anonymous No.10993767]

>>10991299
you're right, i'm not eating enough fish

[Anonymous No.10993772]

>>10993699
maybe lobsters just don't talk to me because I'm a loser

[Anonymous No.10993773]

>>10991299
how many different plant species have you really eaten though?

[Anonymous No.10993787]

Where are my pesc-chads at?

[Anonymous No.10993885]

>>10991554
the majority of people do eat fish though.

[Anonymous No.10993898]

>>10991543
>source:twitter
i shig i dig

[Anonymous No.10993900]

>>10993787
>Nietzschean Might is Right philosophy
>empowering utter trash

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.10993904]

>>10991319
>No GMOs

[Anonymous No.10993941]

>>10993560
Why even bother giving birth if your child is gonna die from shitty diet?

[Anonymous No.10993956]

>>10991285
I want to go vegan. Not because "muh moral superiority" (I don't care about animal slaughter houses), but because of the insane health benefits.

Which path is best? Normal vegan? Raw vegan? OMAD vegan?

I don't want to consume soy or anything like that. I don't want to try imitation meats, I just want to go vegan. But it's hard. Any tips to start?

[Anonymous No.10993967]

>>10991319
>"Lemme get uhhhh strangely-textured and off-tasting burger drowning in sauces and condiments to mask the flavor"
>"That'll be $24.95 plus tip"

[Anonymous No.10993974]

>>10993956
>ut because of the insane health benefits.
Why would you want to fuck over your diet by eliminating some of the best sources for many vital nutrients?

A vegan diet is far from the healthiest one. A low-meat diet is far better from a nutritional perspective. Many vital nutrients are far more bioavailable from meats (especially organ meats) than from plants.

[Anonymous No.10993975]

Do they have deer farms for the sole purpose of producing venison?

[Anonymous No.10993980]

>>10993787
Pesc is worse than full-on omnivore due to how destructive fishing practices are, unless you're eating exclusively farmed fish

[Anonymous No.10993992]

>>10993967
im a meateater and would gladly switch to something thats even semi-close to a burger. $5.99 for two four-ounce patties is not expensive.

[Anonymous No.10993994]

>>10993956
Don't fall for the recent trends of veganism as a healthy diet- they've started running with that angle due to the ease of social media "health" figures having something cool to latch onto.
Only reason to consider veganism is for ethical reasons. It is by no means a healthy lifestyle, or even an adequate one without a lot of work.

[Anonymous No.10994000]

>>10993994
>eat plenty of balanced fruits and vegetables

>maybe take a supplement

oh man the hardship

[Anonymous No.10994041]

>>10991285
Made a pot of "Red" Soup this week:
- 1 28oz. Can Whole Tomatoes + Filled Can of Water to Rinse w/1 tsp vegetable stock paste
- 1 Large Red Onion
- 1 Large Red Bell Pepper
- 2 Medium Carrots
- 1 Large Stalk Celery
- 1 Stalk Green Onion
- 1 Serrano Pepper for Heat
- 4/5 Cloves of Garlic or to taste
- 1 Handful of fresh Basil
- 1 Handful of fresh Oregano
- 4-5 Dashes of Balsamic Vinegar
- A giant couple of spoonfuls of Sweet Paprika
- Salt/Pepper to taste

Bring everything to a boil and let simmer for 10 minutes then ladle into blender and puree until smooth. Serve with chopped fresh summer tomatoes and saltine crackers on the side. Could probably roast the veggies first but I made this was a no oil recipe.

[Anonymous No.10994079]

Anyone have a good recipe for vegan 'go 'za?

[Anonymous No.10994101]

>>10993956
Why not regular vegetarianism? Eggs are fine in moderation. Cottage cheese is great protein, a bit high in sodium but just use less table salt or drink more water.

[Anonymous No.10994102]

>>10993941
My daily diet is unhealthy to you? How so?

[Anonymous No.10994108]

>>10994101
>muh blanket moderation
>muh broteen

God just stick to your containment board

[Anonymous No.10994117]

>>10993956
Vegan bullshit doesn't give you any health benefits.
Avoiding junk food doesn't make you vegan.
Eating more vegetables doesn't make you vegan.
Finding proper replacement for carnivore food to maintain your health may be a real challenge, psychologically (gastronomic deprivation) or money-wise (buying supplements and fake food like almond "milk" that is 3 times more expensive that regular products).
If you won't eat soy you'll have to get your protein either from tasteless seeds/beans or right from some bodybuilder powdered shit.

[Anonymous No.10994310]

>>10994117
>>10994101
>>10993994
>>10993974
So what you're saying is that I don't have to be a beta male vegan and all I have to to is just eat less junk food, drink more water, eat more veggies and eat only smaller portions of meat?

I'm picking up what you're putting down. Thanks, anons!

[Anonymous No.10994327]

>>10993980
what's "worse" depends on your motivation. people choose their diets based on many things, only one of which is environmental concerns.

[Anonymous No.10994964]

>>10991319
>no GMOs
kek

[Anonymous No.10994978]

>>10994310
samefagging vegan shill

[Anonymous No.10995028]

>>10993560
Take the OP's diet, drink cum everyday

[Anonymous No.10995037]

>>10994117
Even with supplements, veganism is cheaper for me. I will say I don't eat a lot of prepared foods other than keeping a carton of cashew milk in the fridge for recipes. It keeps fresh longer than dairy

[Anonymous No.10995049]

>>10995028
Not vegan

[Anonymous No.10995153]

Has anyone here tried oat milk (specifically Oatly)? Been meaning to try it but it's out of stock whenever I buy groceries.

[Anonymous No.10995158]

>>10995049
Vegans make an exception for cum

[Anonymous No.10995172]

>>10993992
>$12/lb. for plant burger
>$3/lb. for 80/20 ground chuck
::thinking::

[Anonymous No.10995182]

>>10995153
Never seen it honestly. Flax milk is probably my favorite

[Anonymous No.10995192]

>>10995182
>Flax milk
What's it taste like? I might give it a try.

[Anonymous No.10995196]

>>10994079
Tomato's on bread. Wa la

[Anonymous No.10995229]

this shit looks bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob2CYmTx9PM

[Anonymous No.10995243]

Funny to see this thread, as I'm doing a big vegan dinner tonight. Don't usually do vegan food, but it's a fun challenge and makes money. Prepped the dessert last night, making lemon curd out of tofu instead of cream, almond milk instead of milk, etc and an awesome meringue using chickpea water instead of egg whites. It's all pretty fascinating finding ways to use ingredients I otherwise wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.10995344]

>>10994310
If you can't even
>eat less junk food, drink more water, eat more veggies and eat only smaller portions of meat
then you aren't becoming vegan

[Anonymous No.10995384]

>>10995229
>ping ching ding dong

[Anonymous No.10995421]

>>10995229
Looks good, but did she really need to bust out that cute little burner and dirty two pans. I also wouldn't really call it braised tofu more like stir fried.

[Anonymous No.10995819]

>>10993560
That will mess up your breastmilk

[Anonymous No.10995886]

>>10995172
$4 for 15 lbs of seitan
>hmm

[Anonymous No.10995957]

>>10994000
B12. No maybe about it.

[Anonymous No.10996144]

>>10995819
How will this mess up my breast milk?

[Anonymous No.10996176]

>>10993560
looks great!

[Anonymous No.10996185]

>>10993773
definitely more species than you ate meat

[Anonymous No.10996199]

>>10993956
first make ur research, u have to watch b12 and certain vitamins in ur diet, dont jump in without info, or u can get sick and then blame it on plants

i love beans, lentils, veggies....i rarely eat soy, u dont have to, its just a meme

[Anonymous No.10996202]

>>10994041
saved

[Anonymous No.10996203]

>>10994108
>protein is shit because I saw people on /fit/ mention it
the state of humanity

[Anonymous No.10996210]

>>10994117
>If you won't eat soy you'll have to get your protein either from tasteless seeds/beans or right from some bodybuilder powdered shit.
really bro, u have to realise almost everything got protein in itself, just not as many as meat, thats why everybody is fat, too much protein

[Anonymous No.10996213]

>>10995153
almond milk da best

[Anonymous No.10996436]

>>10993956
I too was considering veganism. It's kept Will Smith, Jared Let, and Keanu looking young in their 50s. But it's super fucking expensive to do properly, so I gave it up

[Anonymous No.10996444]

>>10996436
It's way cheaper than a carnist diet.
Pulses cost nothing.
Vegetables are cheap

t. a 5 year vegan
25 year carnist.

[Anonymous No.10996490]

>>10991299
>>10996185
What an retarded argument.
>I need 80000 plants to equate to 3 animals because I'm vegan

[Anonymous No.10996497]

>>10996210
Proteins are more complicated than that. You need all 20 amino acids to survive. Meats and meat products have all 20. When you get protein from plants you have to combine different plant sources to get a complete protein, hence why beans and rice are such a popular combination.

[Anonymous No.10996499]

>>10996490
the point is there is much more bigger variety on plant based diet

[Anonymous No.10996502]

>>10991543
It's actually non white countries and their out of control manufacturing and population explosions.

China is raping the ocean to death, and funding most of the poaching in Africa to get their micro dicks hard with elephant tusks and bullshit

[Anonymous No.10996505]

>>10996499
If variety is your endgame then you should be against veganism because it removes variety.

[Anonymous No.10996506]

>>10996436

[Anonymous No.10996510]

>>10996505
my endgame is respect for life and even then enjoying tasteful healthy sustainable diet

[Anonymous No.10996511]

>>10996506
>pistachios
Worth every fucking penny.

[Anonymous No.10996519]

>>10996510
Then you shouldn't have even made that post. Makes you look stupid.
Also, reminder that clearing land for agriculture results in more [native] animal deaths than ranching and that organic foods are made with manure, an animal byproduct.

[Anonymous No.10996530]

>>10996519
do u realise vast majority of agriculture products are meant to feed animals which you eat?

[Anonymous No.10996545]

>>10996506
You know I've met plenty of lazy, stupid vegans that are just perfectly happy to eat processed vegan shit as long as they don't have to cook...and then lament over the price. It's like meat-eaters going to McDonalds for an over-priced meal set because they don't want to grill up a burger at home.

I don't see the point when everyone is still eating processed garbage.

[Anonymous No.10996547]

>>10996530
>do u realise vast majority of agriculture products are meant to feed animals which you eat?
Incorrect.

[Anonymous No.10996560]

>>10996545
well i hope u explained them why the price is high and now they know

The point is that u dont abuse animals

[Anonymous No.10996563]

>>10996547
Ok. The animals just magically increase in size. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.10996567]

>>10991543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI

[Anonymous No.10996572]

>>10996547
"Livestock is the world’s largest user of land resources, with pasture and land dedicated to the production of feed representing almost 80% of the total agricultural land."

https://www.globalagriculture.org/report-topics/meat-and-animal-feed.html

[Anonymous No.10996573]

>>10996547
The vast majority of agricultural products are consumed by humans not animals.

[Anonymous No.10996576]

>>10991319
>25g protein
>no soy, no animals

so what the hell is in it then? and does anyone even care that the exotic concoction of synthetic shit needed to make it is probably 100x worse for you than meat?

[Anonymous No.10996582]

>>10996576
Beyond Meat develops and manufactures a variety of plant protein-based food products. The vegetarian meat substitutes are made from mixtures pea protein isolates, yeast, and other ingredients. As of 2014, the company's product offerings consisted of Beyond Chicken and Beyond Beef.

[Anonymous No.10996583]

>>10996576
fucking peas?

[Anonymous No.10996584]

>>10996573
>>10996572

[Anonymous No.10996587]

>>10994102
if you think a diet consisting of carbs on top of carbs is healthy then you're in for a rude wake up call when your child is born both physically and cognitively underdeveloped and suffers from lifelong health issues

[Anonymous No.10996597]

>>10996530
Because people eat too much meat. Different argument and completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

>>10996563
Have fun living off of grass and corn husks. If it's good enough for cows it's good enough for you, right?

>>10996582
>>10996583
Peas are delicious, though. Just eat some fucking peas.

[Anonymous No.10996602]

>>10996587
We have had an carb high diet for as long as we have existed.

Look at your own fucking intestines. A CARB EATER

[Anonymous No.10996617]

>>10996597
>Livestock is the world’s largest user of land resources, with pasture and land dedicated to the production of feed representing almost 80% of the total agricultural land.

this is actually superb argument for veganism

do u realise that industrial livestock is fed with heavily GMOd corn and SOY? Doesnt make it you a soyboy?

[Anonymous No.10996620]

>>10996597
Farm cattle eat gmo corn and soy nowadays.

Imagine believing you can't farm anything from land that grows fucking grass? must be fun having ZERO experience in growing crops huh?

[Anonymous No.10996629]

>>10996584
>didn’t understand the difference between land use versus crop consumption
Here’s the post he deleted.
Point and laugh at the retard everyone.

[Anonymous No.10996633]

>>10996617
no.

Also see>>10996567

[Anonymous No.10996635]

>>10996629
the post is still there, do u really screencap every thread?

[Anonymous No.10996641]

>>10996620
>Farm cattle eat gmo corn and soy nowadays.
>the way things are done today is the only way things can be done
Real dumb.

>Imagine believing you can't farm anything from land that grows fucking grass? must be fun having ZERO experience in growing crops huh?
Wild grasses grow more easily than several-acre, perfectly flat corn fields, numpty. Also good job ignoring the second half of that point.

[Anonymous No.10996646]

>>10996629
So they use the land for?
Oh RIGHT CROPS!
Dense fucker

[Anonymous No.10996652]

>>10996641
So why do 98 percent of all beef and pork produce eat agricultured grains, corn and soy?

[Anonymous No.10996706]

>>10996652
Because it's cheaper. Pay up.

[Anonymous No.10996718]

>>10996706
Why should anyone when "conventionally" grown beef and pork are so much cheaper. Oh sorry the planet just died, don't care, got some jerky left in my shed.

[Anonymous No.10996729]

>>10996652
A number of reasons:

crops used for cattle are crops that are not edible for humans, mainly due to cellulose content and our inability to digest it, in addition cattle is increasingly fed with waste products from agriculture for human consumption, the parts of plants we can not eat.

Hay is a good example of something cattle can eat which we can not, it also grows in abundance and doesn't need good soil and weather conditions, it's not too picky.

The same applies to corn and other feedstock which is grown above a certain latitude (due to solar intensity). Corn grown above a certain latitude is not palatable for humans yet it grows very well in almost all conditions and soils.

You can not just grow any crop anywhere.

A lot of the land is not suitable for crops we humans can digest. Meanwhile hay and other crops for animal feed do not require fertile land, perfect water conditions etc, they are abundant and not using them would be wasteful and unsustainable.

You need cattle to break down that biological stuff into plant feed so the cycle continues.

[Anonymous No.10996759]

>>10996718
You're simultaneously arguing against me and supporting my argument and you're too stupid to realize it.

>>10996729
Thank you for being reasonable.

[Anonymous No.10996767]

>>10996510
>respects life
>disrespects carnivorous nature of humans
>disrespects delicious nutritious gifts of nature
>disrespects his own life

[Anonymous No.10996776]

>>10994102
Your child will have developmental and growth deficiencies due to you virtue signaling. I bet you’re that type of person who is so boring that they feel they have to define themselves by how they eat.
Tbh I don’t give a rats ass if you are vegan. My children will be healthier than your child. Due to lower fertility rates in vegans I will have more children than you. And when you are 40 years old with wrinkles, grey hair, and your teeth falling out due to your lack of vitamin intake I will laugh.
Go ahead, become sekeletor and give your child a horrible quality of life because of your selfishness and inability to research necessary nutrition.

[Anonymous No.10996783]

>>10996767
>disrespects carnivorous nature of humans

things are evolving, people used to live in caves, do u live in a cave?

>disrespects delicious nutritious gifts of nature

u can enjoy it on plant based diet

[Anonymous No.10996787]

>>10996783
Why would switching away from meat be good?

I don't think it is and I will not move to a plant based diet just because people get sentimental.

[Anonymous No.10996797]

>>10996787
for the animals
for your health benefits
for the environment
for ability to feed more people

[Anonymous No.10996799]

>>10993699
lol gtfo ya 16 yo newfag

[Anonymous No.10996806]

>>10996783
Modern humans as we define them have not changed at all since the cave-man days from a biological standpoint. Willingly ignoring a large part of your natural diet because of muh feelings is not "evolution". Humans evolved to convert excess carbs into fat 10,000 years ago because meals were far between. We now live in a world where food is right at our fingertips. Why haven't humans evolved to stop getting fat when we eat too much???

[Anonymous No.10996828]

>>10996797
>because liberal propaganda, skewed research findings and appropriated politicized legitimacy manipulated for ideological purposes.

Failing to find common ground means a default to the following:

You as an individual can do as you like so long as I can do as I like and beyond that we can not progress on this issue so long as there is no common ground. Should you not respect this and try to force your ideological behavior on others we are going to have a problem.

>for the animals
meaning?
>for your health benefits
questionable, need more long term data (decades of monitored veganism to determine with what health factors it coincides with)
>for the environment
This perception is dated, you need cattle to combat desertification which will combat global warming which is better for the environment.
>for ability to feed more people
Oversimplified to the point of not being realistic. Cattle is essential to eat waste and cellulose which we can not eat, you can not just get rid of all cattle crops and replace it with crops for humans, you need to consider a lot of factors, soil fertility, water regime, solar intensity etc etc.