/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10921080]

Beyond Meat is tripling their production to keep up with the market demand. After selling out in a single day in all of Canada with A&W, locking in a 6 year contract with Red Robin, and increasing production 20-fold in 2017, investors have quadrupled their investment and look towards going multinational in 2018.

https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/beyond-meat-products-out-of-stock-at-whole-foods-stores-due-to-high-demand

Vegans are winning, how do we stop them?

[Anonymous No.10921090]

its not a war. get over it
people have the right to choose what they eat
vote with your wallet

[Anonymous No.10921103]

>>10921080
>how do we stop people from liking things I don't?
What a faggot.

[Anonymous No.10921108]

>vegans are winning
>they have to overpay for their source of protein
huh?

[Anonymous No.10921111]

>>10921080
I mean I still eat meat myself, but it's a bit ridiculous to think that people wont start incorporating more alternatives in the future. I don't agree that going full vegan is in itself good for you but doing it once a week or once a day or something is bretty good for ur body and for the environment.

Don't fear change anon, eventually we'll be able to grow meat in a petri dish this is just a stepping stone

[Anonymous No.10921138]

>>10921080
>he doesn’t believe in freedom of choice
Absolute Trump tier traitor.
Go and move to some 3rd world, shithole dictatorship if you feel this strongly.

[Anonymous No.10921140]

>>10921080
They will end up with a load of unmovable products when the fad ends

[Anonymous No.10921159]

>>10921080
Yum yum gimme all those delicious chemicals and processed veggies

[Anonymous No.10921171]

>>10921159
>chemicals
Nice buzzword. Water is a chemical. Chemical doesn't always equal bad.

[Anonymous No.10921172]

>>10921111
I donm't have any soyboy images saved, but if I di\d I'd definte;y post some bn respose to this.

Sorry about my typing I',m bery drunk./

[Anonymous No.10921175]

>>10921171
But in this case it does because everything is processed to shit

[Anonymous No.10921210]

>>10921171
>Water is a chemical


being this pedantic, kys.

[Anonymous No.10921218]

>>10921210
I'll take the pedant over a know-nothing who uses words he doesn't understand to try and sound smart.

[Anonymous No.10921225]

>>10921218
Learn how language works for neuro typicals. We're capable of interpreting context and nuance. Words are so much richer than is person like you can possible realize.

[Anonymous No.10921233]

>>10921225
No amount of context and nuance will make your wrong ass right, anon. Stop trying to sound smart (Seroiously; "neurotypical"? You sad fuck).

[Anonymous No.10921235]

>>10921233
You obviously need to get diagnosed so you can learn tools to manage your malfunction.

[Anonymous No.10921236]

>>10921225
>than is person like you
You seem like quite the articulate wordsmith yourself.

[Anonymous No.10921269]

>>10921233
autism, ladies and gentlemen.

[Anonymous No.10921271]

>>10921218
t.retard cope

[Anonymous No.10921308]

>>10921175
>thinks veggies don't also have to be processed to shit in order to turn them into "burgers"

[Anonymous No.10921311]

>>10921080
The more vegans, the less demand for meat, the cheaper it becomes. Sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.10921319]

>>10921080
>Vegans are winning, how do we stop them?
How do they win by eating low quality food? Let them eat whatever shit they want. More true meat for me.

[Anonymous No.10921325]

>>10921080
Protip: It's not a competition.

[Anonymous No.10921327]

>>10921325
Advanced protip: this is bot marketing and you shouldn't respond to it

[Anonymous No.10921342]

>>10921080

[Anonymous No.10921377]

>>10921080
You know what you sound like, OP? A vegan.

[Anonymous No.10921403]

>>10921225
>>10921233
All I see is too very colorful puzzle pieces arguing with each other

Always unique totally interesting sometimes mysterious

[Anonymous No.10921406]

>>10921403
*Two
It's way too early to be a phone poster

[Anonymous No.10921409]

>>10921080
Lab-grown burgers

[Anonymous No.10921410]

>>10921080
so red robin has vegan burgers now? finally a chain i can eat at.

[Anonymous No.10921426]

Will veganism make real meat cheaper?

I don't know if I should shill it or not

[Anonymous No.10921436]

>>10921426
yes, shill it daddy

[Anonymous No.10921438]

>>10921225
>neuro typicals
So you're mentally ill, glad we got that out of the way.

>>10921233
>>10921269
Don't bully the mentality retarded.

[Anonymous No.10921496]

>>10921426
They'll just reduce supply.

[Anonymous No.10921526]

>>10921311
Doesn't work like that. Maybe the first 2 years because stocks need to be cleared, but afterwards supply will go down to accomodate demand, and at best prices will remain the same,and probably go up.

[Anonymous No.10921537]

>>10921080
God help us, not BM. I don't know what I'd do with out my BM. My delicious, reliable BM.

[Anonymous No.10921547]

>>10921080
Where I live there are lots of rural farms and local butchers who will butcher your livestock for you, or sell to you parts that they would sell internationally at a pretty big discount.
If you support local butchers, you're fine. If you don't have them around because you live in a big city, accept your Soylent.

[Anonymous No.10921617]

>>10921080
I want to try one but the A&W ones aren't vegan, they're cooked in meat grease.

[Anonymous No.10921793]

>>10921496
So it only applies to wild meats like fish?

[Anonymous No.10921893]

>>10921080
Remember /ck/ if Jesus was here on earth today he would be a vegan

[Anonymous No.10921927]

>>10921893
Wouldn't that be going against his own word though? God states clearly that Man is given dominion over animals. He also tells us which ones we are and are not supposed to eat. The big JC himself taught people to fish, and instructed his followers to drink his blood and eat his flesh in remembrance of him.

[Anonymous No.10921934]

guess its nice being a non eating faggot and being smug

I wouldn't know

*slams some hamburger in my grill*

[Anonymous No.10921946]

Beyond tastes like shit and has a shit texture, though.
For me it's Quorn, the best fag food meat replacement.

[Anonymous No.10921955]

And in a year, there will be a news story where a worker claims they just started adding beef to the line in order to meet demand...

[Anonymous No.10921970]

>>10921342
The ESRB only rates video games, not Internet forum posts you stupid faggot.

[Anonymous No.10921975]

>>10921090
This.

[Anonymous No.10921985]

>>10921080
Commies not welcome. This is capitalism

[Anonymous No.10922221]

>>10921080
it is just a hype, like all the ither things you do not remember anymore that were "huge" in 2005

[Anonymous No.10922368]

>>10922221

[Anonymous No.10922376]

>>10921927
wrong

[Anonymous No.10922389]

Hope all you faggots enjoy your bland boring world where everything is grown in a petri dish

The future will be so fucking boring

[Anonymous No.10922398]

It tastes ok but it's also really fucking weird. Tastes like spam and has the texture of crumbly bleu cheese. It was interesting to try as a novelty

[Anonymous No.10922495]

>>10921955

it would be immediately noticeable. beyond meats are good, but in no way passable for meat.

[Anonymous No.10922617]

>>10922221
Like how things are still made gluten free?

[Anonymous No.10922644]

People are interested in trying new things

The novelty will wear off

[Anonymous No.10922660]

>>10921080
As long as the taste and texture are equivalent I couldn't care less if it's real or fake meat. If you care that it isn't, you either work for the USDA or are sheep following the USDA's panic mongering. If you care that it is, you are a vegan or following their panic mongering. In either case, you need to stop being such a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.10922661]

>gotta save the animals
>more people do it
>more money is made by it
>more habitats get leveled to make farmland for animal friendly food

[Anonymous No.10922678]

>eating meat
I too love consuming processed, known carcinogens

[Anonymous No.10922682]

>>10922661
>implying that takes up anywhere near as much land as the land necessary for animal dairy and meat production
lmao, please be bait

[Anonymous No.10922754]

>>10921080
Is vegan an actual lifestyle thing? I thought it was just something people did for a week or two once a year.

[Anonymous No.10922775]

>>10922682
That fact, while true, doesn't matter.
You have to have both products on the shelves for a while before the transition happens.

Or in other words, the demand for more veg products will be strong enough to demand more land to be cleared well before existing land will be freed up from animal-related uses.

Dont' forget that a lot of animal feed is grown on land that's useless for raising crops humans can eat.

[Anonymous No.10923744]

>>10921090
Clearly you don't think like a fucking communist

[Anonymous No.10923781]

> Trying to create artificial, chemical slop out of 248 ingredients will result in a healthier meat, won't it?

Pretty much every artificial "meat substitute" chemical experiment has essentially turned out to be extremely horrible for humans.

Remember Veat brand fake meat? Yeah, turned out to be carcinogenic and it has the added benefit of destroying your kidneys.

Vegans looking for "real" food, but turning to chemical pink slime is the ultimate irony, and proves that vegans don't know shit and are blindly following an ideology.

[Anonymous No.10923971]

>>10923781
Nice blog, opinion-guy

[Anonymous No.10924014]

>>10923781
>Pea protein isolate, expeller pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, water, yeast extract, maltodextrin, natural flavors, gum arabic, sunflower oil, salt
Peas, oil, yeast and salt. Wow, big spooky chemicals!

I bet dihydrogen monoxide sp00ks u good m8.

[Anonymous No.10924063]

>>10921080
Why would you want to? Increasing popularity of veganism is only a good thing for meat eaters. It will reduce demand for animal products and with reduced demand will come cheaper prices.

[Anonymous No.10924660]

>>10921080
Give it time. I bet this stuff will become the new high fructose corn syrup, used only by corps to trim profit margins and people will lament how nothing has real meat anymore. Then it will become a selling point, like Mexican coca cola. "Hey! Our burgers have real meat!"

[Anonymous No.10924708]

>>10923744
Why does everything have to be a political issue with you faggots? Most vegans aren't trying to force you to change your diet and if they suggest you do, you have every right to say "no". Sure, there are some militant vegans who try to force it into government policy, but their numbers are much smaller than you believe. Just because someone screams the loudest, doesn't mean their opinion is the most popular amongst a demographic.

[Anonymous No.10924717]

>>10921080
Dude, what?
Vegans are the worst posters on this board by far, but I'm all for meat substitutes.
100% falseflag.

[Anonymous No.10924722]

>>10921138
>ORANGE MAN BAD, I MUST MENTION THIS AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY
Fuck off to /pol/ if you want to talk politics.

[Anonymous No.10924734]

>>10922775
You also have grazing animals that can survive on wild forage on shitty land.

[Anonymous No.10924763]

>>10924734
Much of that land is shitty because it was overgrazed in the past ...

[Anonymous No.10924764]

> veganiggers overpaying for inferior products because they're too arrogant to just eat like a normal person
> retards think vegans will somehow take over the world and they won't be able to have their blocked-arteries-on-a-plate anymore
Literally just wait for lab grown meat it's around the fucking corner you niggers it's gonna be so much better cause you can control the fat percentages and the environment will suffer much less

[Anonymous No.10924822]

>>10924764
Lab grown meat with current tech is a fantasy, the purity of the inputs you need, the recycling of the waste streams, doing all that with chemical processing is retardedly expensive. The digestive system and other organs of animals is why they can produce meat so well.

Until we can genetically engineer complete organisms which can produce meat, but without a central nervous system, economically growing meat in a lab is a pipedream.

[Anonymous No.10925042]

>>10921111
Eat insects, the protein of tomorrow

[Anonymous No.10925115]

>>10921080
>Vegans are winning, how do we stop them?
Pick them up and throw them through a wall?

That's what we did to all the brown "vegan" poverty fags in Iraq and A-stan that dared give us any shit. Or you could just eat them.

[Nicholas Parry (Orlando, FL) No.10925159]

>>10922661
more like
>gotta save the animals
>more people do it
>more money is made by it
>farmers stop raising animals in excess, thus killing off the populations of livestock as they're not necessary.
>release cows, pigs and chicken to the wild
>get hit by cars, eaten by wild animals and starve to death due to how domesticated the animals have become
>in the arrrms offf the angelss "you can stop the cruel abuse of cows and pigs, please donate to our charity to save the animals"

[Anonymous No.10925203]

>>10925159
>I'm just pretending to be retarded.

[Nicholas Parry (Orlando, FL) No.10925234]

>>10925203
>And I'm good at it too stay jelly

[Anonymous No.10925237]

>>10923744
no... he thinks like a moral capitalist

[Anonymous No.10925248]

>>10924014
My IQ is 145

I eat meat


based on the sample numbers and the errors this is a very very biased group.
bad science

but vegans are rather fond of poor statistics, anything to reinforce their emotionally driven personal philosophies.

[Anonymous No.10925254]

>>10921080
you could stop giving such a fuck

invest in beyond meat sounds like a good thing.
Use that money you ear to buy more meat

[Anonymous No.10925334]

>>10921080

Just think of how many millions upon millions of animals that would never have lived a single day of life if humans didn't raise them for meat.

If meat consumption ended it would render thousands of species instinct.

[Anonymous No.10925439]

>>10924763
>grazing causes unarable land
What the honest fuck, are you retarded? Grazing animals don't suck minerals out of the soil and bury rocks there. Nor do they truck in sand and truck out rich humus.

[Anonymous No.10925444]

>>10925439
Sure massive overgrazing can lead to erosion of topsoils. But I'm talking about deep inland soil that was no good for farming to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10925470]

>>10925444
And even then, it pales in comparison to plant agriculture with irrigation in that respect.

[Anonymous No.10925479]

>>10925470
Last afterthought, post. But anecdotally, the heavily grazed land I've seen ends up with a bunch of stuff they cattle don't want to eat. There was no lack of foliage, just bunches of the stuff they didn't care for.

[Anonymous No.10927350]

>>10925115
>Vegans
>In Iraq and Afghanistan

Nice LARPing because there are maybe 3 vegans total in the Middle East.

[Anonymous No.10927383]

I don't condone veganism or vegetarianism, but after looking at the ingredients I want to try it.
I do love peas and bamboo cellulose.
I hear of folks giving canned parm cheese shit for tree cellulose in their shit, but people praising this stuff. it's just another plant in my eyes

[Anonymous No.10927422]

>>10927383
It's pea protein, plant fat, plant filler, plant glue, and msg sources. That's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10927440]

>>10927422
>That's hilarious.
really? how so
it's pretty much what I imagined except peas for soy. I'd rather have pea protein than soy.
soon they will get with the times and start using hemp seed. the best protein for human consumption

[Anonymous No.10927506]

>>10921111
I go vegan multiple times a day (in between my meals)

[Anonymous No.10927550]

>>10927440
You can buy hemp protein powders online and in some stores (I think I saw some at Costco once) but it's ludicrously expensive and will probably stay that way until hemp use is more optimized/widespread

[Anonymous No.10927566]

>>10923781
>Remember Veat brand fake meat? Yeah, turned out to be carcinogenic and it has the added benefit of destroying your kidneys.

Yup. It was owned by Smithfield foods and soon got sued out of existence for putting tons of people on dialysis.

[Anonymous No.10927572]

>>10923781

Honestly, if vegans really wanted to taste meat, they'd be 100% better off just eating a steak once in a while instead of lab grown toxic frankenmeat.

[Anonymous No.10927593]

>>10927572
> Honestly, if vegans really wanted to taste meat, they'd be 100% better off just eating a steak once in a while instead of lab grown toxic frankenmeat.

But then they lose that feeling of moral superiority that justifies their reason for existence!

[Anonymous No.10927606]

>>10921080
>locking in a 6 year contract with Red Robin
Not a bad idea, IMO. My gf's best friend and roommate is vegan (also a depressed suicidal femcel so we have to take her as a fucking third wheel all the time) and we have to pick someplace that has good vegan menu options. From what I've noticed, is that places that have a decent vegan menu, they don't really make awesome non-vegan food and are overpriced. More places adding a vegan option doesn't harm me, and makes it easier for me to get food that doesn't taste like shit so that some acquaintance can stay on their shitty moralfag diet.

[Anonymous No.10927608]

>>10927566
Source on this? I've searched for links between vegan diet/meat and kidney disease and turned up absolutely nothing. How could such a major food poisoning incident become so obscure?

[Anonymous No.10927628]

>>10921080
how do we stop them?
why tho? Is not like is threatening the meat industry, wich is masive and pretty much never going away.

[Anonymous No.10927631]

>>10927608
Adding on to this post, there seems to be no vegan meat brand called 'Veat' currently or formerly on the market, which makes your claim even more dubious.

[Anonymous No.10927634]

>>10927572

I don't understand this either. They try to point to all chemicals and preservatives as bad, then turn around and fucking say that artificial meat is completely safe when it hasn't even been been tested on populations over time.

This logical disconnect and mental gymnastics just shows how inconsistent Vegan ideology is. They just constantly bend their "morality rules" in ways to fit their purpose.

[Anonymous No.10927646]

>>10927631

Are you vegans this lazy when it comes to doing research or are you just trying to spread misinformation?

> Van's International Foods, Inc. manufactures and markets specialty frozen waffles including homestyle, Belgian, organic, wheat-free, and low-carb varieties. It also produces soy-based meat alternative products under the Veat brand name. The company is headquartered in Springdale, AR.

[Anonymous No.10927685]

>>10921140
This.

[Anonymous No.10927691]

>>10921111
It's just a stupid fad, the fucking shit they sell costs twice the price of regular beef, it's fucking bullshit and it's gonna die eventually if they can't compete with the price.

[Anonymous No.10927714]

>>10927646
Misinformation? That's fucking rich when you initially claimed that 'Veat' was made by Smithfield when Van's Foods is owned by Tyson's. Furthermore, its listing in Bloomberg and its own website makes absolutely no mention of 'Veat' soy meat, even in the context of discontinued products, which conflicts with the statement you probably found at Relationship Science (I do do my homework, no matter what you think). Finally, searches for news stories about the product turn up absolutely no relevant results, which would be impossible if such a massive food-poisoning incident affecting 'tons' of people actually happened.

If you have any news links confirming the incident, I would suggest you submit them to me instead of engaging in pointless ad-homs.

[Anonymous No.10927761]

>>10927714
Gee, it's almost like a company doesn't like to make its dirty laundry easy to find online. Do you think that Ford likes to mention the Pinto on its website?

[Anonymous No.10927780]

>>10921080

I honestly don't give a fuck. I recently had a Beyond Meat Burger and it was pretty good. Tasted like spam, and I love spam.

Now if they could offer it at a small fraction of the current cost, then I'd actually buy it on a regular basis.

[Anonymous No.10927784]

>>10927761
Oh, so you can't find me a source because the big nasty vegan conspiracy covered it all up. Well, pardon me for not believing your extraordinary claims with zero evidence, especially when companies as big as Chipotle, ConAgra, and Sysco can't stop the media and the health department from kicking their shit in. Case in point:

http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/food-poisoning-watch/sysco-fined-20m-for-food-safety-violations/

Are you honestly telling me that a shitty little subsidiary of Tyson's managed to avoid the same fate?

[Anonymous No.10927809]

>>10927593
You're not wrong.

[Anonymous No.10927811]

>>10927691
Maybe if you're buying bottom of the barrel beef. Beyond meat is roughly the same cost as regular, decent quality meat

[Anonymous No.10927817]

>>10922368
so saying something that is being hyped is a hype is an angry comment?

[Anonymous No.10927823]

>>10927784
>Oh, so you can't find me a source because the big nasty vegan conspiracy covered it all up.
Nah, I'm a new poster. I didn't make those claims.

I just reacted to your comment about "why cant I find teh informations" by giving you a possible explanation.

[Anonymous No.10927824]

>>10922617
that is different, people can be allergic to gluten, and they must eat gluten free stuff. That they made a meme out of it for the hipsters, is just good for the gluten people, until the meme dies, and then the new items will probably dissapear.

[Anonymous No.10927839]

>>10927811

That really all depends on the location. For the $6 bucks it costs to get Beyond Meat (2 1/4lb patties), I could get a pound of good quality ground beef and make twice as many burgers. BM would need to compete in areas/states where meat is generally cheaper priced.

[Anonymous No.10927853]

>>10927634
doublethink my friend

[Anonymous No.10927859]

>>10927823
Good, and I made that post to tell anyone who genuinely thinks that's a good counter-argument and/or substitute for actual evidence that they're a moron. The burden of proof is on them to prove that vegan meat-substitutes have significant negative effects on health excluding people genetically predisposed to intolerance (e.g. celiac disease sufferers), let alone kidney disease. Furthermore, there is no possible justification for the lack of any news stories about a major food-poisoning incident thanks to independent media and government health departments.

[Anonymous No.10927861]

>>10927606
> knows a vegan
> is suicidal
> leeches of you and your GFs special time

jupp, textbook

[Anonymous No.10927941]

>>10927839
I havent bought their burgers so idk, but the chicken and ground beef imitations are both roughly the same cost. I think the burgers they make are their special kind of item or something. I actually really like the prime grillers from morning star though

[Anonymous No.10927991]

why does beyond beef have so much fat innit

my local meat alternatives are like 3-8 grams per 100 grams, beyond is 20 grams

[Anonymous No.10928294]

>>10921080
I tried an A&W one today. It was good, tasted kind of like those frozen hamburgers with soy filler in them, but better.

[Anonymous No.10928300]

>>10928294
Their tendies are fucking goat

[Anonymous No.10928305]

>>10921080
>O B S E S S E D

[Anonymous No.10928316]

>>10921108
None of the ingredients used to make them are extremely exotic, and a lot of the cost returned to investors who in turn put a lot of money into R&D. In short, there was a lot of demand and excitement which made Beyond very profitable.
Once meat substitutes begin operating on an economy of scale, there is nothing that can be done to prevent them from completely undercutting traditional meat - and that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.10928321]

>>10928316
good, so meat finally becomes the 'treat' it should be, not an every staple. This will benefit everyone in the long run

[Anonymous No.10928328]

>>10928321
*every day

[Anonymous No.10928330]

>>10921172
The absolute STATE of meatcucks