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Why the fuck is there soy in my bread? Seriously. Bread should be made of wheat and yeast. That's it. What the fuck.

>> No.10866075

thats cake not bread

>> No.10866076

>>10866067
Eat your soy, goy

>> No.10866078

>Lecithin (UK: /ˈlɛsJθJn/, US: /ˈlɛsəθJn/, from the Greek lekithos, "egg yolk") is a generic term to designate any group of yellow-brownish fatty substances occurring in animal and plant tissues, which are amphiphilic – they attract both water and fatty substances (and so are both hydrophilic and lipophilic), and are used for smoothing food textures, dissolving powders (emulsifying), homogenizing liquid mixtures, and repelling sticking materials.[1][2]
>In doughs and bakery, it reduces fat and egg requirements, helps even distribution of ingredients in dough, stabilizes fermentation, increases volume, protects yeast cells in dough when frozen, and acts as a releasing agent to prevent sticking and simplify cleaning.

Get fresh bread from a local bakery or make your own if you don't want additives and preservatives which make nation-wide distribution possible.

>> No.10866084
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>>10866075
Uh huh

>> No.10866085

>>10866067
why can't you meme loving faggots stay in /b/

>> No.10866093

>>10866085
I'm not even memeing. Why is there fucking SOY in bread. That's like having chicken in a veggie burger.

>> No.10866138
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>>10866093
If you're not memeing then why are you ignoring 14+ other ingredients that aren't wheat and yeast? Why are you focusing on a singular extracted tissue fat that is common to many plants and animals and is unrelated to whatever it is that has a stick up your ass labeled soy?

>> No.10866141

>>10866138
Because soy doesn't belong in bread! What are you, a soy salesman?

>> No.10866148

>>10866141
why doesn't? what makes eggs okay ans soy not?

>> No.10866154

>>10866141
Neither does corn syrup, yet you seem fine with that.
Again it's not even soy, it's lecithin.

>> No.10866161

>>10866148
Eggs aren't full of estrogen and make everything taste better too.

>>10866154
It's SOY lecithin. Therefore Soy. The Corn syrup is bad too though.

>> No.10866169

they should put IGF-1 and antibiotics in there to balance out the democrat humors

>> No.10866192

>>10866161
>SOY lecithin. Therefore Soy.
It's lecithin. Lecithin is lecithin no matter what the source.
You can distill ethanol from crude oil, too. It's chemically identical to fermented plant alcohol.

The point stands, if you're not memeing, why does this one non-soy extract offend you so when you've completely glazed over 14+ other non-bread ingredients? Why did you have to be reminded that the corn syrup is even there, and it barely elicited any response from you despite being objectively the greater evil of the two?

>> No.10866195

>>10866192
It's all evil but soy is the most evil because it's estrogenous, I don't want moobs

>> No.10866198

>>10866195
There is no estrogen in lecithin and if it were so simple to get boobs then trannies and porn stars would never need surgery.

>> No.10866207

I'm a little drunknso excuse the soy hate. Nothing shoyld be in bread beaides the basic shit. Like wheat and yeast. It's insidious how American food manufacturers put chemical shit in everything. It's why were all fat and have cancer

>> No.10866213

>>10866207
If you're worried about getting fat then why did you ignore the corn syrup

>> No.10866233

>>10866213
I didnt ignore it. I just focysed on Soy. It's all bad really. I just hate shit that's not supposed to be in food. I've been buying artisan bread lately. Like 4 ingredients. No corn syrup. No soy.

>> No.10866238

>>10866233
>I didnt ignore it.
You not only ignored the corn syrup, you also ignored 14+ other egregious additives.

>> No.10866251

>>10866238
Not ignored. Just not focused.

>> No.10866252

>>10866067
>my mommy made me eat soy when I was a kid and that's why I have bitch tits
Avoiding soy won't help you.
If you're that scared of it make your own fucking bread. It's not that hard.

>> No.10866273

>>10866251
Taking things out of focus is called ignoring them.

>> No.10866281

>>10866273
Nah dude.

>> No.10866287

>>10866273
Just stop replying.

>> No.10866533

>>10866067
Look at vegetable oil too anon

>> No.10866601

>>10866067
Buy better bread from a better bakery
Or make your own bread

You will never have to worry about your bread's ingredients ever again.

>> No.10866879

>>10866067
bake your own or go to a small local bakery and get some freshly baked not mass-produced bread

>> No.10866890

>>10866067
>yeast
that shit is worse than soy. Soy turns you into a pussy, yeast turns you into an infected stinky pussy

>> No.10867751

>>10866067
Your flour has already been "enriched" with petroleum-derived "vitamins."

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10867762

I sense the IQ of a flyover monkey

>> No.10867787

You know the ingredients are sorted after amount of content right?
You should be more afraid of the other preservatives.

>> No.10867799

Even the most basic of bread recipes require more than just wheat and yeast you idiot

>> No.10867831

>>10867799
Water, fat, salt and?

>> No.10867834

>>10867762
>sayeth the soy merchant

>> No.10867854

>>10866084
Your bread has the ingredients of a cake you white trash piece of lard. Look at that sugar. In bread!

>> No.10868485

>>10867854
It is orobably sone sugar bread or normal muricunt bread

>> No.10868640

>>10866198
trans here: Yeah, if it were that easy to get tits... even in a blue state you have to fight disgustingly hard to get estrogen. if people could just eat some tofu and grow d-cups there would never be a problem.

>> No.10868686

>>10866601
This, make your own. Back when I was a poorfag I ran the numbers and it turned out to be competitive, price-wise, with your standard pre-sliced grocery store crap, while being a fuckton better.

>> No.10868822

>>10867762
Just to be clear:
>I haven't posted yet
>I was born in Detroit
>I have lived in Rural Illinois my whole life
>I have a MENSA tested 154 IQ
>Have given a speech in the presence of the last Soviet Premier
And you have not.

>> No.10868881

>>10868640
ewww it's a QUEEEEEER

Gross!

>> No.10868917

It in video games too

>> No.10868966

>>10868881
Based

>> No.10868990

>>10868640
kys degenerate fucking subhuman scum

>> No.10870643
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>>10866067
Better question...
>Why the fuck is there soy in my tuna fish?

>> No.10871136

>>10868990
Die mad about it fatty, I sit and have sex with two girlfriends at the end of every night

>>10868881
kek

>> No.10871141

>>10866067
Water is a chemical. If you can't handle science, then go back to le rebbit

>> No.10871191

>>10870643
It literally says right on it that there's vegetable broth composed of carrots, celery, peas and soybeans.

>> No.10871322

>>10871136
based trap

>> No.10871365

>>10871191
It's tuna fish, it doesn't need to be in there you fucking douchebag.

>> No.10871648

>>10871365
so does soybeans not belong in a vegetable broth?

>> No.10871697

>>10868822
>thinking MENSA means anything
Congratulations on the participation trophy

>> No.10872008

>>10871648
>so does soybeans not belong in a vegetable broth?
No. It's mirepoix and maybe salt.

>> No.10872014

>>10866067
There's nothing wrong with eating soy. In fact it makes everything taste even better than before.

>> No.10872460

>>10871365
Why am I a douchebag just because you can't read? I'm not saying it should be in there, I'm just pointing out why it says it is.

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>>10866076
Why did /pol/ lie to me?

>> No.10874822

>>10866067
The male species of tropical birds carries the drab plumage of the female at birth and ‘colours up’ at maturity, somewhere between nine and 24 months. In 1991, Richard and Valerie James, bird breeders in Whangerai, New Zealand, purchased a new kind of feed for their birds – one based largely on soy protein.47 When soy-based feed was used, their birds ‘coloured up’ after just a few months. In fact, one bird-food manufacturer claimed that this early development was an advantage imparted by the feed. A 1992 ad for Roudybush feed formula showed a picture of the male crimson rosella, an Australian parrot that acquires beautiful red plumage at 18 to 24 months, already brightly coloured at 11 weeks old. Unfortunately, in the ensuing years, there was decreased fertility in the birds, with precocious maturation, deformed, stunted and stillborn babies, and premature deaths, especially among females, with the result that the total population in the aviaries went into steady decline. The birds suffered beak and bone deformities, goitre, immune system disorders and pathological, aggressive behaviour. Autopsy revealed digestive organs in a state of disintegration. The list of problems corresponded with many of the problems the Jameses had encountered in their two children, who had been fed soy-based infant formula. Startled, aghast, angry, the Jameses hired toxicologist Mike Fitzpatrick. PhD, to investigate further. Dr Fitzpatrick’s literature review uncovered evidence that soy consumption has been linked to numerous disorders, including infertility, increased cancer and infantile leukaemia; and, in studies dating back to the 1950s,48 that genistein in soy causes endocrine disruption in animals.

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>>10874822
Dr Fitzpatrick also analysed the bird feed and found that it contained high levels of phytoestrogens, especially genistein. When the Jameses discontinued using soy-based feed, the flock gradually returned to normal breeding habits and behaviour. The Jameses embarked on a private crusade to warn the public and government officials about toxins in soy foods, particularly the endocrine-disrupting isoflavones, genistein and diadzen. Protein Technology International received their material in 1994. In 1991, Japanese researchers reported that consumption of as little as 30 grams or two tablespoons of soybeans per day for only one month resulted in a significant increase in thyroid-stimulating hormone.49 Diffuse goitre and hypothyroidism appeared in some of the subjects and many complained of constipation, fatigue and lethargy, even though their intake of iodine was

adequate. In 1997, researchers from the FDA’s National Center for Toxicological Research made the embarrassing discovery that the goitrogenic components of soy were the very same isoflavones.50
47. Woodhams, D.J., “Phytoestrogens and parrots: The anatomy of an investigation”, Proceedings of the Nutrition Society of New Zealand (1995) 20:22-30.
48. Matrone, G. et al., “Effect of Genistin on Growth and Development of the Male Mouse”, Journal of Nutrition (1956) 235-240.
49. Ishizuki, Y. et al., “The effects on the thyroid gland of soybeans administered experimentally in healthy subjects”, Nippon Naibunpi Gakkai Zasshi (1991) 767:622-629.
50. Divi, R.L. et al., “Anti-thyroid isoflavones from the soybean”, Biochemical Pharmacology (1997) 54:1087-1096.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/naughty-nutrition/201210/soy-and-seizures-0?collection=108494
https://geoscience.net/research/002/921/002921702.php
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article-abstract/59/2/235/4776316?redirectedFrom=PDF
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1868922

>> No.10874919

>>10874773
Same guy posting the real, true, clinically studied and trialed negative studies on soy beans. Fermentation breaks down a lot of the negatives of soy, and historically the only way soy was eaten was fermented in soy sauce and natto. In China historically it was listed as not food.

>>10871648
No, it doesnt, and the broth is probably 99% soybeans with the rest being whatever the fuck else. Usually (I dunno the brands you posted) stuff like Starkist and budget dogshit tuna is cooked and dried etc. and all the fatty oils and benefits are gone. What you have is some dry near worthless mishmash of meat, that they then add broth to so that is has some form of flavor. Goood brands not only never do this, when you open the can it will have soft fat spts and pocks from the good omega 3s.

>> No.10875395

>>10866084
>Texas toast
It's basically cake at this point