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What is the deal with KBS?

I'm drinking some now and they're very tasty, but not "best beer in the world" level like they're BA rating and 30 dollar price tag would indicate.

The regular Breakfast stout is 11 dollars and 95% as good

>> No.10800800

It was one of the first beers to be that good. Now such beers are much more common, but it was genuinely awesome and rather unprecedented when people started becoming aware of it

Its still an excellent beer

Also, where the fuck did you pay $30, thats usually a $15 4 pack beer

>> No.10800806

>>10800776
>30 dollar price tag
What? It's like 6$ a bottle near me

>> No.10800811

>>10800800
>>10800806
I should have done an MSRP check. I know that CBS was going for a lot of money when it came out, so I thought it was the same thing.

Should I rob the store I bought it from?

>> No.10800815

>>10800776
It used to be much rarer and more unique, now every state has at least one bourbon barrel aged stout and they're less impressive

desu I prefer Breakfast Stout bc I don't like the crazy expensive adjunct aged beers that much

Also lmao at $30/pack, that should be closer to $25

>>10800800
I've NEVER seen it that cheap. $25 a pack, or $6-7 singles

>> No.10800817

>>10800800
>paying 15 bucks for 4 beers

lol
just drink a bud like any regular dude

>> No.10800821

>>10800815
>adjunct
how so?

And I'm including tax. It was 27 dollars or so, but bottle deposit an tax pushed it past 30.

And yeah, next time I'm gonna get breakfast stout. The only real advantage of KBS is that it gives you a QUICK buzz.

>> No.10800825

>>10800811
yeah, CBS was going for $25 for a 750mL bottle

>> No.10800827

>>10800817
Bud Light is for cletuses

>> No.10800836

>>10800825
was it even worth it?

>> No.10800837

>>10800815
>I've NEVER seen it that cheap. $25 a pack, or $6-7 singles
Founders bumped up their barrel aged pricing this year. Now I think it is generally $20 for a 4 pack, but only a year or two ago $15 was standard

>> No.10800845

>>10800817
this is really bad advice. Also, only women drink Bud, definitely not a normie dude drink in this post 1995 world

>> No.10800855

>>10800836
Yeah, I think so, it was really good. Its still super reasonable compared to the pricing of any other type of high tier alcoholic beverage

>> No.10800866

>>10800845
that's actually zero percent true. I go out drinking a lot and 90% of the drinks men order are Bud Light

>> No.10800870

>>10800866
Do you live in Mississippi?

>> No.10800878

>>10800870
New York

>> No.10800883

>>10800870
listen dude, if you're 40 years old and live in Portland and only go to craft beer bars for aging hipsters, sure that's what you'll see. But all the normal places I've been, Bud Light is the go to. Women either drink Bud Light or they don't drink beer at all (will drink vodka drinks instead)

>> No.10800884

>>10800878
No fucking way do you live anywhere in the North and be in a situation when most of your male friends order Bud Light at bars. Even if you are in a super poor uneducated section of your local society, its such a fucking feminine thing to do

>> No.10800888

>>10800884
I live in NYC, the most important city in the country. I'll add that Bud Light gets replaced by another shitty macro like Miller High Life depending on what is offered, but point being, hardly anyone orders craft beer

>> No.10800893

>>10800883
Normie 20 something men (which I assume make up a bulk of the people here, besides college aged men which genuinely drink cheaper shitty beer rather than not cheap shitty beer like bud) overwhelmingly choose to drink good beer in any Northern or Western city, and probably even most southern cities

>> No.10800901

>>10800888
New York is super far behind when it comes to good beverages, and beer especially, but come on

>> No.10800914

>>10800901
t.flyover

>> No.10800917

>>10800901
Bitch, have some cider.

>> No.10800918

>>10800901
wrong. every good bar has a selection of craft, but most people are too cheap to buy it.
>>10800893
Wrong. macros are more popular everywhere

>> No.10800920

>>10800837
Sorry, guess I meant flavored stuff. Anything that isn't the regular stout flavor profile puts me off.

>> No.10800924

Bud Light is so delicious. Literally the best beer out there

>> No.10800947

>>10800918
> but most people are too cheap to buy it.

No it's because no one likes craft beer unless you convinced yourself it's good.

>> No.10800956

>>10800947
well kinda, most people don't give a shit about the craft beer movement and just want something cheap and basic

>> No.10800975

>>10800776
My boss has a few bottles of this lying around untouched by nothing but dust. Do I snag a bottle?

>> No.10801614

>>10800914
By pretty much any measure, New York is some years behind on beer relative to New England, the Midwest, the mountains, and the West coast

>> No.10801619

>>10801614
This. Anyone who doesn't know this shouldn't even be posting in a beer thread.

>> No.10801622

>>10800956
in college sure, but most people at bars or going to the grocery store would rather spend an extra dollar or two for something good than have something watery. Craft beer is still super cheap and pretty much anyone can afford it after college

>> No.10801696

Honestly compared to a lot of the real prized stouts (Wakefield, Toppling Goliath, etc.) KBS just seems thin and underwhelming. It's an OG though and deserves it's respect and its a pretty damn great beer you don't have to camp out for

>> No.10801710

>>10800975
Has he been aging them somewhat properly?

>> No.10801742
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10801742

>>10801619
>that 30 year old boomer flyover who thinks he has sophisticated beer tastes

>> No.10801749

>>10801742
>that dumb meme poster who thinks he's making the board a better place by spreading cancer instead of taking a minute to think up something somewhat original

>> No.10801756

>>10801749
t.reddit

>> No.10801771

>>10801742
I mean, compared to a New Yorker, most flyovers do have pretty sophisticated beer tastes

>> No.10801868

>>10800884
I love the meandering bourgeois arrogance of simultaneously denouncing him as a rural and suburban retard and then employing a gendered insult

>> No.10801885

>>10801868
Where I am from rural, and especially suburban people are way more educated than the typical urban dweller, and I think that trend holds true in the vast majority of America

>> No.10801958

>>10801885
Yeah, when you're talking Memphis tier urban; NY, SF, Seattle, Portland, etc., no. And remove the rural part, they're as retarded as the urban Memphis tier subhumans.

>> No.10801963

>>10801958
Memphis is overrun with angry negroes

>> No.10802005

>>10801958
Almost every urban area in America has the bulk of its educated people in the suburbs, and the bulk of its uneducated people in urban areas. Rural areas vary regionally but are generally well educated in the north an not in the south

>> No.10802210

>>10802005
Yeah, so I was talking about the south. People forget, the majority of the south was whitetrash kept in line by a small % of an oligarchy who held out the carrot of, "at least your better than them, ok?"

>> No.10802880

>>10801614
New York has great breweries and we get shit from all over the country, so that's bullshit

>> No.10802888

>>10801622
Craft beer is way more expensive than macro, you 18 year old boomer

>> No.10802895

>>10801868
This.

>> No.10802902

>>10801771
Most flyovers also drink Bud Light

Face it, America is a Bud Light country and those of us who prefer craft are in the minority.

>> No.10802923

>>10802880
>New York has great breweries and we get shit from all over the country
Everyone has great breweries and gets shit from all over the country

>> No.10802928

>>10802888
Craft beer is a little more expensive sure, but its still super fucking cheap. Also really odd that you suggest the person not concerned with a trivial price increase for a dramatically better product is the 18 year old

>> No.10802956

>>10802902
Bud Light is the best selling beer in all coastie states, and also in much of flyover, (though the mountains prefer Coors, and the upper midwest Miller)

However, craft beer collectively is surely more popular than Bud Light (even all light beer combined) amongst post college-50 year old white male crowd, an increasingly so every year. When you go to any of non-white, non-college educated, female, or elderly crowds, then you enter Bud Light territory, enough to make it the best selling beer in America still

>> No.10803167

>>10802928
paying 7 dollars for a beer versus 4 dollars adds up, not everyone here is ballin
>>10802956
Well most of us are nowhere near 50 years old

>> No.10803185

Real talk, why would I want a faggoty hipster commie craft beer that tastes like pine cones and grapefruit when I can drink a manly, delicious, Bud Light? The flavor is so amazing

>> No.10803194

>>10803167
>Well most of us are nowhere near 50 years old
I meant post college through 50. So basically all of us besides those still in school

>> No.10803211

>>10803194
That just seems wrong then. All my college educated friends drink Bud Light

>> No.10803215

>>10803211
Thats fucking weird man

>> No.10803228

>>10803215
Not really, it's just that most people don't have the disposable income to be getting smashed off Bell's at the bar

>> No.10803235

>>10803194
Craft beer is still a small percentage of the market, though. Sure it's growing, but most people from all walks of life would rather drink a Bud Light, Coors Light, or maybe a Budweiser.

I love craft beer but I have no problem drinking Budweiser, personally.

>> No.10803241

>>10803185
>is alt right
>uses black slang

such hypocritical faggots, I hate you guys

>> No.10803415

>>10803235
>I love craft beer but I have no problem drinking Budweiser, personally
ike I would drink on if someone gave it to me, its not bad by any absolute measure, its just something I would never consider buying because it is so much less good than only slightly more expensive beers

>> No.10803424

>>10803228
Maybe not most alcoholics, but I don't really think most beer consumed by college educated white men is done specifically to get smashed at the bar
Plus, if the goal is to get smashed light beer is a pretty silly option, you will just end up full before you are even drunk, if thats the goal, drink shitty mixed drinks

>> No.10803429

>>10803415
I get Buds for 3 dollars at one of the bars I go to, crafts start at 6. That's literally twice as expensive

>> No.10803436

>>10803424
Believe me, people who grow up in the suburbs train themselves to stomach massive amounts of beer by the time they finish high school. Getting drunk of Bud Light is not hard

>> No.10803445

>>10803429
ok, but you can find good deals on craft beer to, and you are gonna need to drink like 15 Bud Lights to get drunk, and thats a very uncomfortable situation, way too much fullness and peeing.

The point being, that craft beer, while surely more expensive than light beer (though not to extent it first seems when taking alcohol content into account) is still super affordable, plus you are only looking at bar prices, you can go get a 6 pack of some really good beer for like $8 at any grocery store

>> No.10803448

>>10803436
I mean, I could do it when I was in college, but I don't think I could anymore, just way too much liquid

>> No.10803456

>>10803445
It doesn't take 15 Bud Lights to get drunk unless you're an alcoholic.

And certainly not 15 Budweisers

>> No.10803477

>>10803456
We were talking Bud Light, because that specifically is the best selling beer. Budweiser was like 30 years ago but its sales have fallen precipitously over the last few decades

Bud Light has very little alcohol, its at only 4.2%, compared to most craft beers in the 5-12% range. When you are a skinny college kid with only a few years of drinking its possible, though uncomfortable, but most people are never as skinny as they are in college again and their bodies become more resistant to alcohol so it ends up requiring a bit more

>> No.10803486

>>10803477
>only 4.2% compared to 5%

Do you not know math? That’s one less 5% beer for every 6 beers you drink of Bud Light. Basically 12.5 beers of 5% alcohol from 15 bud lights as opposed to 15 regular 5% beers

Insignificant

>> No.10803506

>>10803486
Yeah, but most craft beer isn't 5%, much of it has considerably more. Most IPAs are 7ish

>> No.10803510

>>10800776
This stuff is like crack for numales

>> No.10803524

>>10803510
thats not wine and kombucha

>> No.10803535

>>10803506
Most craft beers that people would drink more than 2 of at once are in the 5-6.5% range

>> No.10803552

>>10803535
I don't know. I was just tailgating at a baseball game yesterday with some 10% an 12% abv beer

>> No.10803561

>>10803524
Nice deflection, numale

>> No.10803575

>>10803561
The idea that normie ass male beverage is somehow numale is pretty funny bait

>> No.10803581

>>10803575
Only a numale would buy a Founders "beer"

>> No.10803590

>>10803575
huh?

>> No.10803599

>>10803581
I'm not a numale, but I love Founder's craft beers. Their breakfast stout is the only thing my wife Sarah lets me have for breakfast because I take too long to eat in the house and I am not allowed to drink in my shed anymore.

>> No.10803607

>>10803581
yeah, numales just fucking love broadcasting their masculinity by buying strong beer, thats totally a thing

>> No.10803610

>>10803510
>>10803581
They could call it Numale Juice for all I care. I would still drink it

>> No.10803613

>>10803599
Does Sarah still let you sniff her butt?

>> No.10803630

>>10803613
No, we've never even held hands let alone had the S word. Sarah says our marriage is strictly platonic. We're basically just really good best friends that decided to live together for the rest of our lives. I'm ashamed to admit that I'm still a virgin, but like Sarah says I would be a virgin even if we weren't married so I should be thankful. I can't complain though, ever since my step father passed away Sarah has been there with me helping me sort out the inheritance and what to do with his business. I'd be lost without my bestie

>> No.10803638

>>10803630
have you seen each other nakies at least?

>> No.10803643

>>10803630
Sarah’s bull is bi and loves taking it up the ass.

>> No.10803653

>>10803638
She's seen me naked despite the fact that I consider myself a never nude, but I have never been lucky enough to see any more than her cleavage or panties.

>> No.10803671

>>10803643
I doubt that but I'm just her husband. I have no input on Sarah's romantic life.

>> No.10803687

>>10803653
did she make fun of how small your dick is?

>> No.10803716

KBS is good, but I really prefer Founders regular Imperial Stout when available.
or Bell's Expedition.

>> No.10803974

How does Greg jizz so hard over this stuff??

>> No.10803981

>>10803671
Sarah’s an uggo. You might as well go gay.

>> No.10804001

>>10801710
Define 'proper' aging conditions

>> No.10805714

Yeah I've had 3 of them and I don't see the big deal. Am I supposed to drink them at room temperature or something?

>> No.10805733

>>10805714
Ideal temperature for an imperial stout would be somewhere between room and fridge temp.
Maybe leave it out of the fridge for like 5 min before you pour it, or just drink it slowly so it warms as you drink it

>> No.10805825

>>10805733
Thanks you dumb numale.

>> No.10806533

>>10805733
That's what I did pretty much. So I guess the beers really are nothing special to me.

Very good don't get me wrong, but not deserving of world class status.

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>>10800800
This.
The same thing happened to pliny. It's an amazing beer, but now everyone is cloning it so it doesn't feel as special as it used to.

>> No.10806682

No craft beer will ever be good as an ice cold Bud or Miller High Life

>> No.10808503

>>10806682
This desu. Nothing tops an icy Bud Light

>> No.10808776

>>10806682
>>10808503
Except almost every craft beer. If I wanted icy carbonated water, I would buy icy carbonated water. But I want beer so I am not gonna buy Bud Light

>> No.10808805

>>10800776
It's good and all, but I guess it's name recognition. I don't even live in a huge city, but I can go to a decent local bar and get 2-3 pretty similar stouts made in my city, 1-2 from the next city over, another 1-2 elsewhere in the state, and 2-3 from all over the country which usually includes KBS.

>> No.10810007

>>10808776
Craft beer is for fags

>> No.10810721

>>10800866
>buying tasteless alcoholic sugar water

Learn to drink.

>> No.10810736

>>10806682
>>10808776
>>10810007
>craft beer
This is the single spergiest phrase in alcohol, even worse than "bitters geek"

Just say "beer", autistically putting the word 'craft" in front of the word in order to distance yourself from cheap beer ends up doing the opposite. It says everything about what you take for granted, and why

>> No.10811117

>>10810721
Bud Light has way less sugar than most craft beers

>> No.10811122

>>10810736
Nah I don't care, I say craft. I'm far from autistic and I do use craft to differentiate from flavorless macro beer like Bud Light (which I will still happily drink because I'm not a bitch). I'm not a beer snob either, I full accept Sam Adams as craft beer.

>> No.10811128

>>10803185
>flavor
Wut?

>> No.10811158

>>10811128
Bud Light does have a pretty good flavor. It's got a nice malted barley and hops taste with notes of crisp apple and rice

>> No.10812970

>>10800975
they're probably fine. it's a high abv beer so sitting around at room temperature for a while probably hasn't ruined them

>> No.10813002

>>10811158
budweiser tastes at best like a watery unseasoned corn and barley soup, and bud light is a watered down version of that. if you're drinking light beer, you might as well be drinking a weak vodka soda, as the taste isn't much different. just admit to being a bitch and move on.

>> No.10813124

>>10801756
Defending memes is maximum reddit

>> No.10813812

>>10810736
>utting the word 'craft" in front of the word in order to distance yourself from cheap beer ends up doing the opposite
No, no it doesn't.

Craft is used as an opposite to "domestic" a phrase very often used in the industry. Its not like craft beer made up the need for that descriptor. You need to pay attention to the way in which people use that word, they are never using it when "beer" more generally would make sense in the context

>> No.10813961

>>10811158
t. Billy Bob from AL
The state highways in the south are littered thickly with Billy Bob and Cletus Bud Light empties. It's as if they can only consume beer products advertised on NASCAR level venues, and everything else is scary and pretentious to make them feel stupid.

>> No.10814029

>>10813002
Fedora faggot

>> No.10814042

>>10813961
Rent free

>> No.10814068

>>10813961
Rednecks really do love Bud Light

>> No.10814167

Why has Bud Light overtaken Bud as the go to redneck beer? It's not like rednecks are health concious

>> No.10814182

>>10814167
Because they advertise it more

>> No.10814584

>>10814029
you wish, bitch

>> No.10816671

>>10800888
>I live in NYC, the most important city in the country

>> No.10816723

>>10814182
Is it cheaper to produce?

>> No.10816775

>>10816723
Probably. I did some alcohol/calorie maths a while ago and it has a significantly better ratio than budweiser, so it seems they can coax much more alcohol from the yeast per unit of starch before it dies when going for low specific gravity somehow

>> No.10817229

>>10816775
Interesting. But I think calorie counting is a lost cause when binge drinking, I think people like Bud Light because it's super mild while still tasting like beer.

>> No.10817302

>>10810721
Hehe this XD
pass me another choco mocha stout :P

>> No.10818178

>>10817229
"is it cheaper to produce"

That isn't about calories, that's about using calories as an approximation of how much raw material they had to put in their beer and inferring that it costs less because it takes less grain to make

>> No.10818265

>tfw craft beer drinker
>tfw I still understand why people like cheap beer, and even myself enjoy a cold Landshark or Blue Moon when it's hot as fuck out.
If you want to drink a ton of beer, save a buck, and not get drunk, the macros are great. If you want to have 1-2 non-mixed drinks and taste something that's a little different, craft beers are good. Seems pretty easy to understand.

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>>10813124
Only I get to use the word maximum

>> No.10820157

>>10818265
if i'm drinking beer to get drunk, like at a show, i'm usually drinking cheap shit, like PBR, stroh's or tecate. inoffensive, and stroh's and tecate go heavy on the malt. stroh's bohemian if im at a nicer place, or just chilling at a bar. craft beer is for drinking with dinner, going to a brewery, at home and with friends.

>> No.10820826

>>10818265
I'm a craft beer drinker and I agree. Sometimes I buy regular macro beers when I need to save money or when I get "palate exhaust"

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10820832

>>10800776
Its shit because it doesn't go with Inglehoffer, America's top selling mustard.

>> No.10820863

>>10820832
I'm begging you not to do this