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20 years old now, graduating from culinary school aged 21
>Work in hotels from 21 - 31yo
>Work in restaurants from 31 - 41yo
>Have my own business from 41 - 51yo
>Give my business to my son, Neet it out from 51 - death
Hows my plan, guys?

>> No.10777012

>>10777008
sounds amazing

>> No.10777013

>planning your life
sounds boring

>> No.10777033

>>10777008
Why would you arbitrarily work 10 years in hotels before working in a restaurant? Why do you need to wait until 40 to think about starting your own business? Also, the odds of you taking a restaurant business from a fresh start to retirement-ready in 10 years are slim to none.

>> No.10777037

You could skip immediately to the very last step.

>> No.10777038

>>10777008
Hahahaha, that's not how that works. Where does the money for your business come from?

>> No.10777041
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10777041

>>10777012
thank you

>>10777013
i'm a simple man

>> No.10777045

>>10777038
>works for 20 years
>"where does the money come from?"
absolute neet-tier logic

>> No.10777047

>>10777037
That's a mistake, great way to duck things up and end up in debt. Restaurants are really really difficult to make work.

>> No.10777054

>>10777045
His point is that most staff in either a hotel or restaurant setting making absolutely shit money. It's hard enough to get by on those kind of wages, never mind getting enough capital to get a business off the ground.

You're not as smart as you think.

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10777058

>>10777033
>Why would you arbitrarily work 10 years in hotels before working in a restaurant?
Just need a taste of the environment and work my way up the ranks.
>Why do you need to wait until 40 to think about starting your own business?
I want it to be a family business. I'm naive like that.
>Also, the odds of you taking a restaurant business from a fresh start to retirement-ready in 10 years are slim to none.
Maybe I'll work in it till I can't work anymore, like the Chinese

>> No.10777059

>>10777045
So you'll have a million dollars in the bank with great credit and a family with children on a line cooks wage? Absolutely idealistic retard logic. Really really fucking stupid.

>> No.10777062

>>10777054
>>10777059
and the NEETs crawl out of the woodwork

>> No.10777067

>>10777058
Well good luck, it's hard to find any fault with your optimism. But coming from a kid who was pressured into carrying on his parents' dreams rather than being free to pursue my own, try not to do that same thing to your future kids, y'hear?

>> No.10777068

>>10777008
>work ten years in a hotel for no reason
>only work ten years in restaurants
>only work ten years at your own business
>thinking your business will be worth very much after only 10 years enough for you to do nothing for the second half of your life

Your plan is ambitious and optimistic but not realistic.

>>10777038
>>10777045
>>10777054
This honestly, it takes loads of startup capital. Unless you plan to save at least 5k every single year of your working life without fail I don't really see how you're going to randomly open up a business. Keep in mind most cooks make like $10-$15 per hour.

Also, 50% of new restaurants fail within the first year, and 80% fail within five years. Realistically you're planning to save a meager amount of money and piss it away on bad real estate which you will lose.

>>10777062
Calling people NEET when they call you out on your poor planning, idealistic approach, and financial naivete doesn't negate their claims. You did not think this through very well.

>> No.10777070
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10777070

>>10777062
>mfw this retard just keeps saying NEET as his whole argument

>> No.10777079

>>10777047
VERY last.

>> No.10777084

>>10777068
The NEET guy isn't OP, I guarantee it.

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10777089

>>10777067
Thanks for your words. Same sit as you honestly but I kinda like it, maybe because feel like I've got nothing else to do.

>>10777068
>Optimistic but not realistic
I agree, its just a basic skeleton plan wherein I assume this is how its going to play out. I won't really know until I go through it

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10777097

>>10777062
>I'm invincible
>nothing bad will ever happen
>I'll make millions
>I'll keep all my munnies
>those fags are neets
>what would they know
Nigger I was making 6 figures a year bartending at 23, I used to think like you do now. Been around the block and seen how shit works, unless you're getting a mint when your old man kicks the bucket you're writing a fan fiction and you're the main character.

>> No.10777098

>>10777089
Are you any good at public speaking and business relationships? If not, owning a business isn't really right for you. There's a huge chance you will have to speak to investors to acquire capital. If you really want to open a restaurant I'd start working on that business plan now.

>> No.10777109

>>10777070
tell me what shithole you live in where food service isn't a respectable career, ripe for promotion and success

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>>10777098
>Public speaking
Above average I'd say. I'm not nervous in front of folks and I can improvise my speech to fit in jokes and such.
>Business relationships
Yeah, networking right? Been told its the single most important thing if I want to make it in life, been making friends that can help me out since I was a wee lad

>> No.10777136

If you want economic success and comfort the restaurant business is a poor choice for anyone.

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>>10777124
>frogposter on /ck/ thinks he can woo investors into dumping money on a restaurant
Sure thing, chumlee. Let us know how that works out.

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10777158

>>10777156
belieb in mi

But in all honesty I'm not that jaded from society, living in a third world country just automatically makes you normal

>> No.10777167

>>10777089
dumb af plan, I can tell you haven't worked in the industry.

Start as a line cook working at the best restaurants/hotels that will hire you. Be ok getting shit on because you don't know anything and improve every day. Learn every station on the line and excel at it, once you have done this at a couple places you will be ready to become a sous chef. Then your hours shoot up, your responsibility shoots up, and you're dealing with all the new retard cooks coming in too making sure they're not fucking up the restaurant. After this you'll probably be too burnt out to want to cook anymore, your passion having been beaten into the ground and pissed on long ago. If you're still here then you'll have to find investors who are willing to give you thousands of dollars for a venture that statistically is destined to fail. You need the investor because you'll be lucky if you scrape $40k/year at any point in your career until now. Then after you get the money and design the space and buy all the shit and hire a competent staff and design a menu and get this monster off the ground you finally get to open (and you're probably way in debt). Now you get to sell $15 cheeseburgers at 8% profit margin (if you're good).

Good luck anon. It's not easy, but to me it beats sitting in an office, cucked to your corporation all day.

>> No.10777169

Guys, by 30 you should have a years salary as savings, by 35, you should have 2 years saved, if you don't have that it means your spending too much on retarded shit or need to find a new palce to live.

>> No.10777182

>>10777169
That sounds good, but it's not always the hand life deals you. Shit happens and that pie in the sky gets little slices taken out of it as you go.

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10777184

>>10777167
Thanks for the advice, chef
I'll give it my all and do my best

>> No.10777194

>>10777169
>advocates having a ton of money sitting around
Absolutely retarded.

>> No.10777204

>>10777194
Doesn't mean it can't be invested.

>> No.10777208

>>10777204
Then say invested you stupid cuck.

>> No.10777227

>dumb frog poster thinking small

Nothing new here. I had my own business by age 25 you little bitch, whats your excuse?

>> No.10777240

>>10777227
>dumb
there ya go

>> No.10777249

>>10777167
>beats sitting in an office, cucked to your corporation all day
Yeah naw

>> No.10777258

>>10777158
Lmao, what country do you live in?

>> No.10777300

>>10777208
I want that anon, you bleeding dickhole

>> No.10777303

>>10777300
>wasn't
christ

>> No.10777306

>>10777258
Malaysia
The restaurant scene right now mainly fovuses on trendy-hipster foods and trendy-hipster foods on food trucks

>> No.10777326

>>10777008
this plan could work as long as your business from 41-51 is not a hotel or restaurant

>> No.10777501

>>10777184
If you want to go all the way you will have to grapple with the dilemma of it feeling like a job. Don't be afraid of this, it is a fucking job and it will always be a means to an end. There will be great services and shitty ones too. Just always keep pushing forward one day at at a time. Another day, another dollar, another server ringing in bullshit tickets; it never stops. But have fun! Kitchens have to be a top 5 fun work environment at least if not #1. It's all worth it at the end of the day.

>> No.10777517

>>10777097
this, 6 figures for 8 years and i'm not even close to having enough money to do anything.