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10772582 No.10772582 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /ck/ is soy actually healthy?

>> No.10772590

Bait thread.
You're better off eating actual food but it's not going to make you a soyboy or anything, unless you already have pathetically low testosterone in the first place.

>> No.10772592

>>10772582
Soy needs to be FERMENTED before humans can eat it. Ask the Japanese.

>> No.10772598

>>10772590
>unless you already have pathetically low testosterone in the first place.
So it DOES influence your body in some way, yes?

>> No.10772600

>>10772598
Marginally

>> No.10772607

>>10772600
But you wouldn't recommend it?

>> No.10772667
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10772667

Soy has close to zero effect on the endocrine systems even at massive, and pinned amounts. Nice attempt to perpetuate a dead /pol/ meme though, Alex Jones. Fuck off back to r/the_donald.

>> No.10772676

>>10772592
They eat plenty of non-fermented soy as well

>> No.10772684

>>10772607
I would recommend you do your own research and come to your own conclusion.

>> No.10772719

>>10772667
>when combines with resistance training

>>10772590
>You're better off eating actual food
>>10772684
You said it yourself, actual food is better than soy shit.

>> No.10772767

>>10772719
>ask a question

>get answers

>whine about them

Do you eat protein powders then not train?

>> No.10772848

>>10772767
>whine about them
where?

>> No.10772946

>>10772848
>>10772719
>>10772598

Or are you just deflecting from getting answers and being contrarian about them?

>> No.10772955

>>10772946
This.

>> No.10772960

>>10772946
I wasn't whining. I don't like you avoiding answers like here
>>10772684

>> No.10772991

>>10772960
That wasn’t even me and you are whining. You even got a straight answer then whined here>>10772667
>>10772719

>> No.10773002

>>10772991
That wasn't whining, i was only pointing at what was written in the study.

>> No.10773032

Ok, let me explain this in a way even /pol/ brainlets can understand.

Soy does not make people into faggots. People who are already faggots tend to gravitate towards soy products because, due to already being bitchmade faggot pussies, they think eating animals is somehow immoral. You’ve got the cause and the effect reversed. Soy doesn’t make you into a girly man, girly men just love soy.

>> No.10773036

dumb fucking pol fags looking to blame their pathetically low test levels on some inane shit like mommy made them eat their soy beans when they were little

>> No.10773040

>>10773002
Maybe try crying even harder.

>> No.10773049

>>10773040
You sound angry for some reason, chill dude. I am not a fan of soy products and just want to discredit them online, hoped for your help.

>> No.10773056

>>10773002
Yes it was, then you got another explanation and here we are! Now what’s the next step of your master plan?

>> No.10773067

>>10773056
To fuk ur mom baby.
Also soy is for faggots and you should feel horrible for eating it.

>> No.10773078

>>10773036
People like you, who have no fucking clue what they're talking about, shouldn't post about /pol/

>> No.10773082

>>10773067
Soy is in damn near everything, m8. Go grab something from your kitchen, read the ingredients. Odds are good that there’s some soy in it. Also, soy sauce is one of the most versatile ingredients on the planet.

>> No.10773091

>>10772598
no. to have even a chance of affecting your hormones you need to consume nothing but raw soy for years and years

when it comes to soy isolate or cooked/fermented soy foods, consumed in normal quantities, not a chance

>> No.10773099

>>10773082
no it isn’t

sorry you never read ingredients

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>>10773078
t. low test stringbean

>> No.10773113

>>10773091
Come to thing of it, what are foods that radically change your hormone levels?
What would you need to do to change your hormone levels outside of cancer or hormone therapy?

>> No.10773122

>>10773106
>implying I'm low test and/or a string bean
>implying I'm a cancerous MAGAfag
t. has no fucking clue what he bitches about

>> No.10773139

>>10773099
Yes it is, idiot. My ex was allergic to soy, there was a ton of shit she couldn’t eat. It’s obvioulsy not in absolutely everything, but it’s in a ton of prepared foods, things like crackers and chips a lot of the time, some confections, a lot of restaurant foods. It’s usually not listed as “soy” in the ingredients, there are many byproducts and additives derived from soy.

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10773140

Everyone is fucking mad.

>> No.10773142

>>10773082
That’s because you buy fried sour cream chips from walmart

No berries, broccoli, plain oats, or sweet potatoes will have soy in them

>> No.10773152

>>10773139
>its in a ton of shit you shouldn’t be gorging on to begin with!! Clearly the problem is soy!!

>> No.10773156

>>10773113
You can’t change your hormones in any appreciable way just by eating food. You’re not gonna become a super high-test alpha badass from eating tons of steak. Hormone therapies exist for a reason. If you have low-T, go see your doctor and get on TRT.

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>>10773142
>raw materials won't have soy in it
well DUH

>> No.10773167

>>10773140
>>cake boy
I've never heard that one before. Thanks anon, I'll have to start using that.

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>>10773157
>soy is in everything!!!

>well except actual edible food but you know what I mean!!!

>> No.10773178

>>10773142
>>10773152
I didn’t say I ate a ton of that stuff, I said it’s in a lot of stuff. Are you people all retarded? It IS in a lot of foods. Whether or not those are healthy foods you should be eating is immaterial.

Of course there’s no soy in fruit or vegetables or whatever, but in your average American’s diet, yes, there are a lot of soy products they probably aren’t aware of.

>> No.10773180

>>10773169
What the fuck is this even supposed to be depicting? Why hunters in the background?

>> No.10773187

>>10773180
He also wears steam fedora, it doesn't make fucking sense.

>> No.10773191

>>10773139
>I eat everything out of boxes
how much do you weigh?

>> No.10773192

>>10772582
Soy is edible poison

>> No.10773194

>>10773191
See: >>10773178

You are retarded. Please stop posting.

>> No.10773196

>>10773187
>steam fedora
???
is this a /v/ meme?

>> No.10773205

>>10773180
>>10773187

It’s a /pol/ image. Don’t try to make sense of it.

>> No.10773212

>>10773194
sure, just get mad and do damage control instead

>> No.10773220

>>10773091
there's countless instances of guys having emotional changes and growing bitchtits from drinking soy milk pretty regularly

>> No.10773230

>>10773220
>citation needed

>> No.10773237

Is drinking water from peta bottles actually worse than soy? Or drinking tap water?

>> No.10773255

>>10773237
No

>> No.10773257

>>10773220
(No)

>> No.10773258

>>10773237
Yes. Everything is poison, makes you into a faggot, and/or is part of a Deep State mind control plot. Is that what you wanted to hear, /pol/?

>> No.10773260

>>10773230
>>10773257

https://www.livekindly.co/soy-men-boobs/

Mind you this guy was drinking a stupid amount of it, but it's a proof of concept.

>> No.10773289

>>10773258
Well, there must be a reason for widespread feminization of men and shortening of telomere on Y chromosome in population.

>> No.10773311

>>10773260
Did you read the article that questionable piece of fluff you posted linked to? It said that guy’s case was an aberration and said doh is overall pretty healthy.

>>10773289
A shift in culture. It’s that simple. Feminine values are more valued than traditional masculine values now, so male children are raised to be more feminine. Blame the boomers.

>> No.10773317

>>10773289
Lack of fathers
Women raising men
Same sex marriages being able to adopt children
These are all contributing factors to the feminization of men

>> No.10773358

>>10773178
Are you retarded? You said it was in everything. It’s in the shittiest of shit foods, i just looked at a bag of cheetos i have lying around and nowhere does it say soy.

>durrrr its in everything!!!

>> No.10773381

>>10773180
i think it's supposed to be a nintendo game or something. it really speaks to their level of expertise in all these things that are apparently just for soy boys. once again literally every single thing they criticize is just a blatant projection, so devoid of subtlety that it is a wonder they won't recognize their own mirror image

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10773394

>>10773381
>it really speaks to their level of expertise in all these things that are apparently just for soy boys. once again literally every single thing they criticize is just a blatant projection, so devoid of subtlety that it is a wonder they won't recognize their own mirror image

>> No.10773399

>>10773394
Excellent retort. Also nice thumbnail, faggot.

>> No.10773410

>>10772582
In moderation like with all things in life anon.

>> No.10773415

>>10773399
You're post was literally
>no u
the post

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10773416

>>10773394
>oh yeah well here's a cartoon of some faggot!
yes now you can skip to the part where you inform everyone that you were just trolling on purpose, everyone is triggered, you win and then you load up pornhub for your 2nd wank of the day before fucking off back to /pol/ to complain about how women have ruined society
>pic related, tit for tat

>> No.10773417

>>10773415
>>10773381 isn't me.

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10773422

>>10773399
>>10773416

>> No.10773424

>>10773417
Ok, you're still a snarky faggot like the other one whom my post was originally intended for

>> No.10773425

>>10773422
>>10773394
I'm really digging the facebook filenames.

>> No.10773433
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>>10773425
>facebook filenames

>> No.10773435

>>10772582
more like male replacement

>> No.10773439

>>10773433
What website then?

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>>10773394
>literally just proving the point

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>>10773435

>> No.10773556

>>10772598
No you spastic, hops contain much larger concentration of phytoestrogens so I hope you don't drink beer else you're basically a woman.

>> No.10773574

>>10773556
excuse me?

>> No.10773581
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10773581

>>10773556
Beer turns you into a lady?
I guess that explains why can't drive a car and won't shut up when I've had a few!
LMAO

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10773602

>>10773581
>boomerposting
>unironically

>> No.10773736

>>10773317
No, men are being feminized by the technological development which produces work that either a man or woman can do equally and men must conform to the womyn's standard of behavior or lose out. Ironically, the right supports unregulated technological (the literal root and driving force of social structure development) growth while bewailing the consequences. Thus, they attempt to create strawmen blaming it on "muh deep state" and (((joos))). It's literally predicted from the 30's nazi germany. We're go'in for a whirl here folks, buckle up!

>> No.10773764

>>10773230
I read it on bodybuilding.com/misc

>> No.10773777

>>10773736
5/10 if trolling
Still needs work

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>>10773416

>> No.10774223

>>10772598
everything you eat influence your body

but its not as simple as the brain dead memes make it out to be

>> No.10774227

>>10772684
Considering real scientists don't know how most of the body works.. telling people to do their own 'research' just equates to 'find the opinion that reinforces your own'

which is bullshit

>> No.10774237

>>10773082
But anon, I don't buy prepackaged garabage that's 80% soy filler.

>> No.10774257

>>10772582
Soy makes up 95% of my diet

>> No.10774302

>>10772582
>hormone replacement

>> No.10775153

>>10773082
only retards who buy processed packaged shit and have no concept of how to even remotely eat healthy say this shit, I could go through my entire kitchen and find maybe 1 thing that contains soy. I bet you're probably a skinnyfat balding 28 year old.

>> No.10776220

>>10772598
Literally everything you ingest can influence your body in some way moron.

>> No.10776279

>>10772667
but if you are a vegan you support globalism! Also, if we were to get rid of animal factory farming and switch over to an all vegan diet, we'd need to convert even MORE land to feed everyone vegetables!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyWkhqn0Wo

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10776289

>rrawrr I bought a bunch of junk food without reading the ingredients, soy is in everything!
>rrawwr I ate soy powder to excess and I don't lift, then got constipated, protein is a meme!
Millennials were a mistake

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>>10773122
>>implying I'm a cancerous MAGAfag
U seem upset

>> No.10776328

>>10773311
You don't get lower sperm counts across a whole generation from raising boys to be more feminine, whatever that means. Preservatives, plastics and piss full of hormones are accumulating in drinking water and food.

>> No.10776337

>>10772667
I've read about two cases where it actually did have an affect, but it was from someone drinking a gallon of soy milk every day for a long time and someone who worked on a hop farm.

People who just treat them like what they are, beans, and make them a part of their diet instead of the main thing will probably be fine. The problems mainly seem to come from people who think drinking Soylent every day instead of eating is healthy or that soy products are a suitable replacement for meat/dairy at every meal. But people who put some soy sauce in their fried rice or tofu in their miso soup or have a veggie burger once in a while are probably fine.

>> No.10776392

>>10772582
why even risk eating large quantities of soy products?
what health benefits does it have for healthy young male adults over rice or pea protein?
not worth it for me

>> No.10776875

>>10773416
Healthiest fucking kek

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10776885

>>10772582
fuck yeah.

>> No.10777527

>>10776885
Who dis

>> No.10779324

>>10776392
Most of my diet consists of soy so I have to eat large quantities of it.