/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10753567]

>carbs aren't needed by the body, so therefore, stop eating carbs
>well, then what shall I eat?
>you should eat fat instead. there's this thing called keto, or the atkins diet, and after you only eat fat, the body starts using it instead of carbs.
>are you on a ketogenic diet?
>why yes I am.
>fat isn't needed by the body, so therefore, stop eating fat.
>well then, what shall I eat?
>you should eat carbs instead. I don't believe this diet is called anything, it's just a little more traditional. After you only eat carbs, the body starts using carbs instead of fat.
>well, it looks like you and I have both suggested that we convert to each other's diet.
>and little would come from it.
>I agree. I think, from now on if we should discuss which one is better, our arguments should be restating what is already known.
>I too agree. We should use other factors, such as what foods are high in fat and likewise high in carbs and what effects the entire nutrient content of these foods have on the body, positive or negative, and then we can defend our positions with more faith and evidence.

[Anonymous No.10753577]

>>10753567
Bro that's fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.10753589]

>>10753567
Fat is needed by the body, there are essential fatty acids

there is no essential carbohydrate

[Anonymous No.10753611]

>>10753589
This "discussion" was about energy, if that wasn't intuitive.

[Anonymous No.10754397]

>>10753567
>fat isn't needed by the body
This is false. So the rest of your narrative is false.
In reality, the doctor would reply,
"Actually, fat is needed by the body for almost all organ and cell function. Your body has essential fatty acids and essential amino acids which must be derived from fat and protein in food and cannot be synthesized. However, there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate. You should listen to me - and all of science! - instead of taking nutritional advice as a personal attack on your way of life. You are, of course, free to make your own decisions on your diet; you are an adult. I just want you to make an informed decision, whether or not you choose to eat in a way that best benefits your body. That's my job, after all."

And then you would feel like an idiot for suggesting something so stupid and factually inaccurate to a fucking doctor like you knew better, you fucking twat.

[Anonymous No.10754406]

>>10753589
Your brain can only use glucose for energy. Therefore, all low-carb retards are actual brainlets.

[Anonymous No.10754411]

>>10754406
It can use ketones, you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.10754496]

>>10754406
you have no idea what you are talking about. Your brain prefers glucose but can get by on ketones. Please read a book before you embarrass yourself again

[Anonymous No.10754689]

>>10753567
>>10753589
blah blah blah whatever.
Your brain can ONLY run using glucose or ketone bodies.
Your brain does not run well on ketone bodies.
>Thread over.

[Anonymous No.10754714]

>>10754689
it runs better on ketones you melt

[Anonymous No.10754719]

>>10753567
Does the keto diet exclude fruit and honey? I know that they say you can't have much milk on the diet either, and I don't like that. Wouldn't it just be better to eliminate large amounts of processed carbs and mostly eat whole grains instead, while making sure you're also getting enough fat and protein?

[Anonymous No.10754729]

>>10754719
I don't do keto but more of a paleo guy - I only eats foods I could reasonably make/grow myself (i.e. nothing from a factory), I eat fruit and feel great.

Have my own little garden I grow some veggies and keep some chickens for eggs, its comfy.

[Anonymous No.10754733]

>>10754714

Source?

[Anonymous No.10754734]

>>10754733
my brain you melt

[Anonymous No.10754748]

>>10754734
Oh your brain thats atrophied on ketones, makes sense

[Anonymous No.10754770]

>>10754729
That's a pretty good way to think about it. But I've heard paleo dieters say they also don't think you should have milk. It's fine to say that not everyone should have milk, because like 75% of the global population is lactose intolerant, but anything that says nobody should ever have milk isn't willing to be flexible enough to adapt to each person. We shouldn't all be following the exact same diet.

[Anonymous No.10754774]

>>10754770
I'm not personally against milk, I don't drink it much but I'll eat some cheese from time to time

[Anonymous No.10754779]

>>10754770
I agree 100% about not everyone following the same diet

Peoples responses to all kinds of foods can be wildly different

[Anonymous No.10754810]

>duh you bwain needs it
You can do 20g or less carbs on keto.

[Anonymous No.10754819]

>>10754779
Yeah, common advice for people dealing with skin troubles is to cut out dairy and fatty food, and to eat more fruits and vegetables. Vegetables cause no problem for me but I did an elimination diet and figured out milk and other dairy products do nothing to my skin, but eating a piece of fruit will cause my skin to be itchy and for a bunch of inflamed pimples to show up for a couple days after.

[Anonymous No.10754841]

>>10754406
Glycogenesis produces necessary glucose for the brain, it's not required in the diet

[Anonymous No.10754849]

>>10753611
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.10755123]

>>10754733
There are a lot available for anybody who cares to look. You'll say anything I provide is not valid, and then you might (but probably won't) provide an alternative source to say the opposite. I, in turn will say that your source is invalid.

So, as my ketone powered brain is capable of predicting the future, and as I do not require your validation, I will not waste my time and instead allow you to continue floundering mentally.

[Anonymous No.10755131]

>>10754411
>>10754496
>It runs on ketones! Jus....not as well. Thass nawt a pwoblem, though. I don't need my bwain to wewk at one hundo poecent!

[Anonymous No.10755144]

>>10754714
>Implicitly agrees with the way I said things work.
>Immediately tries to go against the grain b/c "I'm a memer guize"
Fuck; you kids really are a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.10755169]

>>10754841
>Glycogenesis productes necessary glucose for the brain, its not required in the diet.
>Hurr durr

Did you mean gluconeogenesis, you fucking keto-brained mong?

[Anonymous No.10755178]

>>10755131
>I'm a super-genius like L so I need lots of sugary sweets!

[Anonymous No.10755380]

>>10755178
>super-genius like L
You mean that faglord who was too busy washing his enemy's feet to bother staying alive.
>Beetus