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Anonymous Fri May 25 20:16:42 2018 No.10657852 [Reply] [Original]

Best white wine to use when cooking a salmon pasta dish/seafood dishes in general?
I want to start cooking more with fish/seafood but I'm a wine noob.
I currently have this pic related bad boy Riesling in the cupboard. Terrible option or should be gtg?
What is your go to wine when creating a seafood sauce?
I'd ask in the al/ck/ thread but couldn't find it for the life of me.
Thanks in advance /ck/

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:20:16 2018 No.10657866 >>10657852 If you like the taste of it, incorporate it into your cooking. No special trick to it. Rule of thumb is “don’t cook with something you wouldn’t drink”.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:22:20 2018 No.10657873 >>10657852 you want a dry white wine for cooking, I like chardonnay. Riesling is usually too sweet. Ive never had that particular one but dry varieties do exist

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:22:27 2018 No.10657877 >>10657852 >>/ck/thread/S10632134 >>/ck/thread/S9345241 >>/ck/thread/S10632334 >>/ck/thread/S8793286 >>/ck/thread/S9345241 Posting wine is grounds for ban, take it to /r9k/

Anonymous Fri May 25 20:28:25 2018 No.10657907

>>10657877
Shit sorry had no idea. Because I was going to be using it in cooking I thought /ck/ was the perfect place to ask. Have rules changed?
>>10657873
Might pop,down to the local and get a Chardonnay then, thanks anon.
Trying to impress a girlie tonight so want it to be restaurant quality level yum.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:28:31 2018 No.10657908 >>10657877 Fuck off janitor, go play hall monitor with the nth McChicken thread you fucking loser.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:37:14 2018 No.10657948 File: 127 KB, 1104x495, neo-ck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10657907 >>10657907 Welcome to neo-/ck/ The rules are the same, but the rules never mattered. Mods can and will always do whatever they want

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:39:13 2018 No.10657957 >>10657852 >>10657866 this anon speaks the truth! personally, i like both cooking with as well as drinking a nice sancerre!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:43:52 2018 No.10657986 >>10657907 you can still use the reisling to get her tipsy enough to slob yer knob

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:56:35 2018 No.10658051 >>10657948 Damn how things have changed. >>10657986 My man. That's the plan loL. On a side note, can I ask if al/ck/ found a new home or its gone for the ages. I liked that crew.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 20:58:37 2018 No.10658060 >>10658051 Wine threads have long been a target. The mod recently decided to expand his hate to other kinds of beverages, that's the only reason people are talking about it more.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:01:27 2018 No.10658080 File: 59 KB, 600x400, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10658060 I guess he has been given the directive from higher up. I hope I don't get banned for this thread. I mean glom baying has always been a big part of cooking.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:02:24 2018 No.10658089 Why? Food and wine goes hand in hand

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:02:56 2018 No.10658092 >>10658080 *flambaying

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:04:25 2018 No.10658103 >>10658089 Mod got in an argument with someone and was made to feel stupid, took it out on them by making up rules.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:08:07 2018 No.10658129 >>10658103 More cliffs? Was this in iirc? Obviously a recent event.

Anonymous Fri May 25 21:21:34 2018 No.10658193

Hey mod/janny, this seems as an appropriate venue as any. How about we settle this man to man. I'll fight for al/ck/ you fight for pol or whatever faggot hell you crawled out of. If you think you're a big tough aryan by abstaining from even the mention of alcohol, well you're wrong. No more gay shitposts just meet me in an alley and then leave my board after I break you

help? Fri May 25 21:40:20 2018 No.10658278

>>10657852
Riesling may indeed be too sweet. For seafood a nice vibrant sav. blanc would do. I've seen Sancerre suggested but it's a bit pricey. You can get a decent New Zealand sav. Blanc for ten bucks. The NZ stuff is rather citrus-y and would compliment the fish wonderfully

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:40:32 2018 No.10658280 >>10658193 Inb4 banned. :(

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:42:40 2018 No.10658292 File: 617 KB, 857x1200, 4672wz-6584.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10658278 >riesling is sweeter than sauvignon blanc When will flyovers learn it's about more than just the DNA of the grapes?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:54:39 2018 No.10658339 >>10658278 >decent >NZ sauv blanc Pick one, enjoy your hawaiian punch with 13% ethanol

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 21:55:56 2018 No.10658344 >>10658193 Go to an AA meeting, should be at a church or community center weekly, you alkie fuck.

Anonymous Fri May 25 22:12:52 2018 No.10658387

Have you guys ever heard of dreaming tree? They make some of my most favorite wines I've ever had. I mean, I'm probably a huge wine pleb as I've never had anything over 30 bucks before, but Dreaming Tree is really good. It's pretty cheap, like 10-15 bucks depending on where you go, it has great flavor/taste to it, if you use it as an ingredient (like say in a coq au vin) it doesn't leave behind any shitty aftertaste or alcohol flavor, just all the good shit.

I'm not trying to shill for it them for free even though I just did, but if you need a good wine to cook and drink, get them.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:14:56 2018 No.10658397 File: 1.12 MB, 498x239, grossnoty-thumb-600x288-175437.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10658387 >Dave Matthews wine

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:15:53 2018 No.10658399 >>10658397 What?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:17:10 2018 No.10658404 File: 1.06 MB, 480x270, meangirlsnoty-thumb-600x338-175433.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10658399 Have a Lindsay Lohan reaction image, is that easier? Does it better communicate my lack of desire to consume Dave Matthews wine?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:18:37 2018 No.10658412 >>10658404 What does Dave Matthews have to do at all with Dreaming Tree wine? And anyway, who would really give a shit who made it if the product is good?

Anonymous Fri May 25 22:21:33 2018 No.10658415

>>10658412
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreaming_Tree_Wines

I've been burned enough times by California wines and celebrity wines to be done with them. There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, 'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again

Anonymous Fri May 25 22:22:58 2018 No.10658423

>>10658415
I mean, idk man, I had no idea it was some Dave Matthews shit, I just picked it up one day cause it was on sale when I bought it and discovered, hey, this is pretty good stuff.

If I had never known who it was made buy, I'd still buy it. And will continue to buy it. What an overreaction you had my guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:24:30 2018 No.10658432 >>10658344 Nah, I don't drink enough to merit that. I have a 5 minute mile time and I could probably punch through your skull People can moderate their consumption, you know. Apparently not.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:31:37 2018 No.10658461 >>10658278 This guy knows what's up, NZ makes some great sauvignon blancs

Anonymous Fri May 25 22:39:29 2018 No.10658484

>>10657907
The al/ck/ general is banned since it actually isn't about cooking and threads about any kind of alcohol were getting haphazardly pruned for a while even if they were directly about using beer/wine in cooking, but you should be in the clear now.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 22:43:28 2018 No.10658498 Join us. Abandon this dumpster fire of a board. >>>/bant/5258982

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 23:27:59 2018 No.10658649 >>10658498 No. We've been here for years. No.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 25 23:29:54 2018 No.10658658 >>10658649 There is nothing further here for us aside from getting banned. /ck/ a shit.

>>	Sage Fri May 25 23:42:14 2018 No.10658690 >>10658658 Shill. Sage more fields than all

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:23:45 2018 No.10658791 >>10657852 bump. What beer is the best for cooking my brats in before they hit the grill this weekend?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:51:12 2018 No.10658905 >>10658397 I got the pun. Good one anon. Good song too. I'm closer to the grave digger song un(?)fortunately. Made some killer tortolini from scratch today so was pretty chuffed about that though.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:52:27 2018 No.10658912 >>10658791 I'd suggest a dark beer. Have you ever tried Kilkenny?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:54:14 2018 No.10658925 >>10658658 There is a thread over at /bant/ anon. I think that's where we are going if it's just regular chat. I think here we must talk about wine/beer/grappa pairings.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:54:48 2018 No.10658929 >>10658925 Shill

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 00:56:02 2018 No.10658939 >>10658484 Thanks anon. I found a post above sending me to /bant/ for the OG al/ck/ crew. Hopefully all anons from here will read this and migrate over.

Anonymous Sat May 26 00:58:10 2018 No.10658950

>>10658929
I'm trying to keep the friends together. We all made great friendships over the past 4+ years so it would be nice to keep our community together.
Sorry if I sound like I'm shilling, just we weren't given a chance to find a new home before all of the banning started last week.

Anonymous Sat May 26 00:58:44 2018 No.10658955

wine, beer, cocktail food pairings are legit /ck/ discussion
wine/beer/liquor discussion is topically legit for /ck/ also. You cannot separate drinks from cuisine. They go hand in hand.
blog posting about your mental health and how it has led you to abuse alcohol is not however.

Can we not have a simple rule such as this? If not why not?

Anonymous Sat May 26 01:07:07 2018 No.10658991

>>10658955
Agreed. It seems this has not been considered however, aka the recent mass Bunnings just even mentioning alcohol and food.
I think a rule needs to be set in place.
Sure this is the food/cooking forum but who wants to go out (or eat at home for that matter) and not want to pair a good drink with their food.
I wish the mods considered this prior to Ramadan. We are not all Muslims after all and my good friends who are Muslims drink as much as I do. (Not a lot but when we go clubbing together they drink me under the table and supply me with extacy.)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 01:11:03 2018 No.10659015 What kind of spirits are best used to deglaze a pan?

Anonymous Sat May 26 01:12:06 2018 No.10659025

>>10658950
You were given a chance. You ARE being given a chance. I hate this fucking reddit defeatist attitude. Just because some new fuck tard 22 year old janitor who is power hungry lacks logic does not therefore necessitate the migration of an entire community OF FOUR YEARS

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 01:17:07 2018 No.10659045 >>10659025 I really don't get what you are trying to say. We can't stay here or we will be banned apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 01:18:39 2018 No.10659051 >>10659045 You do get it you just want that new general to take off. Alcohol posts belong in food and cooking, naught else. Just don't start a general? I haven't been banned

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 12:52:43 2018 No.10660844 >>10657852 Unoaked chardonnay is my go-to for cooking wine

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 12:59:08 2018 No.10660865 >>10659051 Friendly reminder to report all posts that seek to discuss alchoholic lifestyle over actual discuss of alchoholic drinks. Thanks.

Anonymous Sat May 26 13:09:40 2018 No.10660904

>>10657852
Don't be stupid to put some decent wine in your pan or whatever. It shoudl be a dry one indeed because you need the wine for the acid, not the sweetnes, but other than that there is no need to waste good and pricey wine. Most of the molecules which are important for the experience of a goo wine are elusive and won't survive the cooking process at all. Whats left is a watery connection of alcohol and accids, which are the main compounds of each and every wine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:42:45 2018 No.10661886 >>10660904 >a piece of string is too long People get insanely opinionated and condescending about "don't spend too much money on wine" but nobody is ever willing to say how much that is, and when they try, they're wrong 100% of the time

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 16:48:18 2018 No.10661914 >>10660865 Fuck off. Half of /ck/ is alcoholic lifestyle, and posting about alcohol has been a part of /ck/ forever. That said, all generals should be banned.

Anonymous Sat May 26 17:02:10 2018 No.10661972
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>>10661914
Nothing is ever specific enough though
>wine general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>french wines general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>burgundy general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>beaune general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>chassagne montrachet general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>2009 Fontaine-Gagnard Grand Cru Criots-Batard-Montrachet Monopole general
BANNED FOR OFFTOPIC
>the specific glass I have of 2009 Fontaine-Gagnard Grand Cru Criots-Batard-Montrachet general
BANNED FOR FLOODING

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:04:46 2018 No.10661983 >>10661972 Just stop calling every fucking thread a general, especially when it's a specific question followed by, "[x] general I guess". Generals breed cancer 90% of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:07:43 2018 No.10661994 >>10661983 Because that's such a huge problem on /ck/, right? As opposed to >why is she so qt? >who is ur food waifu >do you think her farts smell good? >what would you cook for her? Accompanied by a 128x128 thumbnail of a 4/10 youtube c-lister

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:09:00 2018 No.10662000 OP how'd it go? Did the food turn out well? Which wine did you use and what did you make?

Anonymous Sat May 26 17:12:45 2018 No.10662014

>>10661994
Those are all outlier, crossboarder threads, though. Generals become institutions that make a home for shitposters from other boards to congregate. Youtube celeb shit should only be allowed if it's actually about food/cooking and not just about someone acting like an idiot (joey, jack, all fast food reviewers, etc).

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:14:26 2018 No.10662026 >>10662014 >if it doesn't fit my agenda it doesn't count Ok

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:18:56 2018 No.10662042 >>10657852 the basic rule is don't cook with anything you wouldn't drink because if you don't like it, you definitely won't like it when the alcohol cooks out

Anonymous Sat May 26 17:21:12 2018 No.10662054

>>10662026
>my agenda

It's pretty simple: if the thread is about Maangchi, Cooking with Dog, Food Wishes... people are probably talking about it because they've cooked food from those channels and find them helpful. If it's focusing on reviewbra's autism, spastic joey memes, or jack shilling his own retarded "i fuck up food intentionally ever time" videos it should be on /b/ or somewhere else.

Anonymous Sat May 26 17:32:39 2018 No.10662099

>>10662054
The fact is “scotch general” or “beer general” threads are no more cancerous than any other type of thread on /ck/ and on average much less cancerous

But if you’re not getting paid without promoting “sorted food” or whatever, do what you need to do in order to eat

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 17:45:23 2018 No.10662155 >>10662054 Pretty much this. Millenial youtube joke "celebrity" posting on /ck/ should be culled. The channels you listed all provide real cooking info and techniques, Mangchi (bless her erection inducing heart) in particular.

Anonymous Sat May 26 18:38:49 2018 No.10662410

>>10662000
I went perfectly, if you know what I mean.;)
I made smoked salmon pasta with peas, broccoli I no asparagus. The lemon really shone through, and I'm glad I took an anons advice to go with a Chardonnay.
The Riesling was enjoyed mostly after dinner over conversation, and that led to my ultimate goal of walking her home and getting a kiss on the cheek.
Haha just kidding we fucked like rabbits.
I took pics on my phone, so I'll post once I get out of bed.
Thanks for asking anon.
My presentation abilities suck balls but I'm proud to say it was easily 9/10 flavour bomb.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 19:04:10 2018 No.10662504 File: 1.71 MB, 3264x2448, C4CC82A6-0F3F-4273-A0E6-F98282B53210.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10662410 I needed to do the fork twirl when playing, but damn it tasted legit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 20:56:43 2018 No.10663029 https://boards.4chan.org/bant/thread/5271934/alck#bottom Can mods please not banned me. Just trying to let the al/ck/ crew where we went to keep the /ck/ mods happy. Please no banned good sirs.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 23:29:13 2018 No.10663735 >>10663029 Thanks anon. I'll head over there now.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 26 23:30:35 2018 No.10663741 >>10663029 >>10663735 Samefagging

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 00:19:23 2018 No.10663903 >>10663741 Yep, it's a shill. Alck posters stay here. It's almost won

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 00:26:20 2018 No.10663925 Good luck in /bant/ everybody! Just remember romania is /bant/'s punching bag and australians are automatically respected.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 01:03:56 2018 No.10664029 >>10663903 What do you mean? What do you know that I don’t? I thought any al/ck/ threads here were insta bam material now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 04:37:06 2018 No.10664636 >>10663925 nice try bruce

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 07:08:19 2018 No.10664977 >>10664029 Bump for answers to this?

Anonymous Sun May 27 07:16:41 2018 No.10664996
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>>10657877
>>10657948
>>10658051
>>10658991
>>10662014

Can't discuss your favorite wine or beer because that's "self destructive behavior", but we're allowed to post:

Youtube shit
>>10664356
Neckbeard self pity
>>10663225
Inhaling chemicals from Chinese electronics
>>10662232
Tide pod Gen Z garbage
>>10652528
Literally spam advertising
>>10662244
Race baiting /pol/ shit
>>10664544
Frogposting
>>10662347
>>10664063
>>10664366

But hey those are all just "outliers" right? The real problem is I had a glass of wine last Friday and that's the day of jumu'ah

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 07:26:07 2018 No.10665012 >>10664996 It seems sharia controlled zones are places /b/ would fit right in. :/

Anonymous Sun May 27 08:17:02 2018 No.10665118

>>10664996
Got to agree with this, i didn't post in al/ck/ because it's not my thing but it's not like it spills out into the actual rare OC that is posted here.
mods seem more concerned about getting all asshurt over a general that is pretty harmless to the board rather than cleaning up and banning the constant flood of spam from fast food marketers.

>>10657852
A sav blanc or chardonnay is my go to with fish, avoid the cheapest but no need for the high priced wines so just look for something low-mid range. When I first started cooking with wine I just give one a try and hoped for the best, eventually I found a few producers that I liked by trial and error.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 08:50:19 2018 No.10665183 >>10657873 Alsace riesling is usually dry (between 5-10g of sugar per liter) and that stuff works so well with a nice filet of cod or catfish. For salmon though I tend to use sauvingon blanc or maybe chardonnay if its a nice fatty piece.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 09:54:09 2018 No.10665335 >>10665183 Catfish is beer fish, it’s too rustic and dirt tasting for wine For cod txakoli is hard to beat, unlike my wife and kids since wine = alcoholism as per neo-/ck/

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 13:14:26 2018 No.10666117 >>10658344 >church

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 13:15:38 2018 No.10666120 >>10657852 I deliver liqour to restaurants/bars/liqour stores and the standard that restaurants use for cooking is Taylor port white wine. Yw.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 13:15:51 2018 No.10666123 >>10666117 it’s like a mosque but with bells instead of a muezzin

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 14:03:50 2018 No.10666304 File: 195 KB, 800x800, 2121253 - LolEConnar Yotsuba&! Yotsuba_Koiwai.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Loli wine

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 14:27:12 2018 No.10666401 >>10666120 Nice info anon. What's the price comparison to say a similar quality Chardonnay?

Anonymous Sun May 27 14:32:04 2018 No.10666439

>>10666401
"Chardonnay" implies new world. You can't really compare new world QPR to old world because old world receives heavy subsidies.

If not for subsidies old world wines would be going for about double what they retail for.

This is why new world wines under $20 or so are basically all disgusting and even once you cross the minimum entry level threshold there's a lot of trash out there because the wine making style reflects the taste of people who consider wine a status symbol rather than something to drink for pleasure.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 27 17:15:17 2018 No.10667256 >>10666439 Interesting! I guess the subsidies you speak of don't exist in Australia, but I'll have a look for some next time I'm looking for some good cooking wine.

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